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January 8, 2009

Canada’s Oil Sand Projects

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Toxic chemical levels higher in water downstream of Alberta oilsands plants Vancouver Sun -  This photo shows how at least one company is bulldozing right to the Athabasca River’s edge. EDMONTON – Levels of toxic chemicals in the Athabasca watershed are up to 50 times higher downstream of oilsands development, a new University of Alberta study …The research, spearheaded by renowned aquatics ecologist David Schindler, also estimates that Suncor and Syncrude deposit the equivalent of an oil spill’s worth of bitumen into the surrounding environment each year. The chemicals are dispersed through two main modes: on airborne particles from plant stacks and dusty mine sites; and through run-off from developed sites. The full paper will be available at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science website at www.pnas.org

Pollution levels increase due to oilsands operations: study CTV.ca

Oilsands pollution far exceeds official estimates: independent study  iNews880.com An independent study suggests that pollution from Alberta’s oilsands is nearly five times greater than official estimates.  The study says toxic emissions from the controversial industry are the equivalent of a major oil spill repeated every year. Government and industry officials have said contamination in the area’s soil and rivers occurs naturally, but the report links it firmly to oilsands mining.

CBC.ca  A study of water quality at 60 sites along the Athabasca River and its tributaries makes it clear the oilsands have added cancer-causing toxins to the environment, a scientist at the University of Alberta says. The highest levels of polycyclic aromatic compounds [PACs], which are known to contain carcinogens, were found within 50 kilometres of two major oilsands upgraders, David Schindler said Monday. On a scale of 1 – 10, as a reputable scientist Dr. Schindler is an 11. If he says there is a problem with tar sands operations poisoning the Athabasca River and other water bodies …. you can be sure that the problem is there and the cause for concern is real. Do you think any of Syncrudes or Suncors top executives are living along the Athabasca River? Not likely.

 
Alta. bishop lashes out against oilsands
Canada.com - EDMONTON – A Roman Catholic bishop in Alberta says the current pace of development in the province’s oilsands “cannot be morally justified” because of the damage it is doing to the environment.
Alberta Bishop calls for halt on oilsands growth Calgary Herald
Rapid development of Alberta oil sands can’t be ‘morally justified Globe and Mail
iNews880.com - CBC.ca - Catholic Culture - Daily Commercial News
all 74 news articles »
 
 
 
 Syncrude charged Metro Canda – Edmonton -  The province has charged Syncrude with violating Alberta’s environmental enhancement act yesterday by not leaving appropriate deterrents at a tailings pond located at the company’s Aurora North Site that killed 500 ducks last spring.
Ottawa, Alberta charge Syncrude in oilsands pond duck deaths CBC.ca
Alta. oilsands giant charged for duck deaths Canada.com
Globe and Mail - Edmonton Sun - Reuters Canada - Calgary Herald
all 168 news articles »  

 
 
 
“Ground Shifts Under Advocates of Oil From Sand (Source: International Herald Tribune)By Ian Austen The oil that can be extracted from Canadian dirt is either a savior from oil from the unstable Middle East, or an environmental catastrophe in the making. As Barack Obama prepares to take office in two weeks, the debate is no longer academic. The U.S. president-elect has promised to move forward with an ambitious program to fight climate change. Not all oil is alike when it comes to environmental repercussions, and many environmentalists single out production from the oil sands as the epitome of “dirty oil.” In a recent study, RAND, a policy research group, estimated that oil from the oil sands generated about 10 percent to 30 percent more greenhouse gases than conventional crude. Canada, in large part because of the production capacity of its oil sands, is now the largest oil supplier to the United States. But environmental groups in both countries are pushing for a slowdown or even a halt to further oil sands development, which is concentrated in northern Alberta. Operators of oil sands projects and Canadian governments are eager to point to its potential for reducing American dependence on oil from politically unstable regions. Canadian oil sands produce about 1.2 million barrels a day, or about 9 percent of the imported oil consumed in the United States. Production was headed toward 3.5 million barrels a day by 2015 before the economic slowdown; with the vast reserves available, Canadian oil sands have the potential to produce the equivalent of 1.7 trillion barrels of oil. The oil sands companies, however, have been scaling back as falling oil prices and the general market turmoil have created a significant economic challenge for the projects. The entire process adds up to the world’s most capital-intensive method for extracting oil. A tiny example: Each of the tires on the cartoonishly oversize dump trucks used in oil sands mining costs about $60,000. While no one is about to park the giant dump trucks, several companies have recently announced delays in future oil sands investments. In November, a consortium led by Petro-Canada said it would temporarily stop expansions worth 23.8 billion Canadian dollars, or $19.5 billion, of its oil sands operations in Alberta. “We’re not in megaproject mode anymore,” Steve Laut, the president and chief executive of Canadian Natural Resources, said to analysts after cutting his company’s capital spending plans in half. And as Washington prepares to deal with climate change, environmentalists, who generally prefer to use the deposits’ traditional name – tar sands – are already pressing for restrictions on the projects. “It’s one of the most destructive projects on earth,” said Susan Casey-Lefkowitz, a senior attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council in Washington. “It would be strongly resisted in the United States to exempt the tar sands from any climate agreement.” Transforming the tar, more properly known as bitumen, which is mixed with sand, into petroleum is energy-intensive and creates significant carbon emissions. Steam created by burning natural gas separates the semisolid bitumen. Then, more natural gas is needed to turn the bitumen into synthetic crude, which can be processed by refineries. The development of oil sands projects has created the greatest North American boomtown of recent years – Fort McMurray, Alberta.
 
Its outsize economic importance has prompted Canada’s Conservative government, led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, to champion the industry. After the November election in the United States, Harper said he would seek to devise a continental climate change pact with the Obama administration. Harper suggested that any agreement would include an apparent escape hatch for the oil sands because, he argued, of the energy security benefits they offered the United States. Since then, however, Harper has avoided an early defeat of his government, which does not control a majority of seats in the House of Commons, by shutting Parliament. Even if the Obama administration is willing to hold talks with Canada, Harper’s grip on power is now uncertain.
 
ECONOMICS DO CONTROL THE VIABILITY OF CANADA’S OIL SANDS PROJECTS… Economics do  control the direct oil sand extraction  process, engineering as well and also now not all firms are equally environmentally conscious, concerned so they all do now need to be better managed here, something that has falsely not been adequately done for sure so far.. and yes neither by the provincial or the federal governments HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB HERE
 
GREED AND PROFIT CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO OVER RULE SAFETY,  THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, etc.,

Calgary and Edmonton are the two  main and  largest cities, both nearly the same size too,  in the Province of Alberta, Canada.  There are no other significantly large towns in this province as well. The main economy of Alberta is cattle farming and the oil industry. The provincial government has never been able to diversify the economy. Oil which was first discovered in Alberta in 1902   did not become a significant industry in the province until 1947 Alberta’s  quickly found itself at the centre of the ensuing oil boom and grew when oil prices increased with the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973. The population increased significantly  in the years between 1971 and today. Mainly bcause of the governmental  misleading spins that Alberta was a place to get rich fast, but this is not at all true. Few people got rich in Alberta, many went broke though.  Alberta’s economy is so closely tied to the oil industry that the  subsequent drop in oil prices were cited by industry as reasons for a collapse in the oil industry and consequently the overall Alberta, Calgary and Edmonton  economy.  This is still mainly a one horse economy, province.  Do see   also How many rich people in Calgary, Edmonton Alberta? 

Recent environmental assessments, including the RAND study, also do not further the cause of the oil sands industry. While climate change is the current focus, it is not the only environmental issue surrounding the projects. Spent water used in oil sands projects is placed in lake-size tailings ponds, one of which killed about 500 migrating birds in April. Seepage from the ponds is polluting rivers in northern Canada, some scientists argue. In December, Environmental Defence, an environmental lobby group based in Toronto, estimated that about four billion liters, or about a billion gallons, of contaminated water leaks from the ponds each year. The Alberta government and the oil industry dispute that finding. Strip mining of the oil sands, the most common method of extraction, has destroyed large swaths of boreal forest, an important habitat for migratory birds and other wildlife. In December, a study published by the Natural Resources Defense Council and two other groups found that 6 million to 166 million birds could be lost over the next 30 to 50 years because of that disruption.
 
Producers say they are making efforts to address environmental concerns. Laut’s company, which recently completed a 110,000-barrel- a-day oil sands project, is developing systems to capture and store much of the carbon dioxide it emits. It has applied for government grants to test a system that will trap some of its carbon dioxide output by bubbling the exhaust gases from an upgrading plant through the spent water from a strip mine’s steam. Large-scale programs to capture and store carbon dioxide are not yet in place. The demonstration project of Canadian Natural Resources, for example, is not scheduled to begin until 2010.
 
With oil prices about $48 a barrel, profitability is fast eroding at oil sands projects and may already be vanishing at some operations. Producers have widely differing cost structures and varying definitions of profitability. But Andrew Leach, a professor of environmental economics at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, estimates that long-established plants can operate with prices as low as $30 a barrel. He said, however, that newer operations needed $60 to $70 a barrel for acceptable returns and that no one would proceed with proposed projects until prices returned to the $80 to $90 range.
 
Exactly how Canada could participate in the shaping of a U.S. strategy for climate change is unclear. Harper, who is from Alberta, initially dismissed concerns about climate change. After taking power in 2006, he abandoned commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions made by the previous Liberal government when it signed the Kyoto Protocol of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. Instead, Harper’s government has promised a 20 percent reduction in Canadian greenhouse gas emissions by 2020. What is more significant, however, is that the proposal wants to use as a baseline 2006 – a year with more pollution – rather than the Kyoto standard of 1990. In addition, the new plan requires companies, including oil sands operators, to reduce only the rate at which they emit greenhouse gases. If they achieve those efficiencies, they will still be allowed to raise their total emissions through increased production.
 
Even if Canadian producers dislike U.S. climate change policies, they will be hard-pressed to sell their oil elsewhere. Canada’s pipeline network takes oil sand production south and offers no routes to ports for export to other countries. ”  The New York Times Media Group. http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/2936176 
 
 
I rightfully do not trust anything the Alberta Government says or do, not Stephen Harper now as well.

PS I have worked at Syncrude Fort MC Murray Plant  myself. Extraction of the oil is   basically a  simple but a very costly process,

see also https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/canadas-oil-sands/

“Reuters, Thursday January 10 2008

By Jeffrey Jones
CALGARY, Alberta, Jan 10 (Reuters) – Canadian oil sands mining projects, seen as a key source of North American energy supply for decades to come, have been given poor environmental marks in a report released on Thursday, with even the best performer barely garnering a passing grade.
Environmental groups Pembina Institute and World Wildlife Fund surveyed 10 Alberta oil sands ventures, including seven yet to start producing, for attention to land, air emissions, water, climate change and overall environmental management.
Authors of the study called on the government to set more stringent limits on water use, emissions and impacts on wildlife and public health.
Only Royal Dutch Shell Plc’s Muskeg River mine got a passing mark, and even that was just 56 percent, according to the report, entitled “Under-Mining the Environment.”
“What this study has shown is that there’s more talk than there is action in terms of meaningful commitments to addressing the issues,” said Dan Woynillowicz, senior policy analyst at the Pembina Institute.
All projects scored well in some areas and poorly in others. If each adopted the best features of their rivals, the industry could make meaningful improvements, the study said.
For instance, if all mines had the greenhouse gas emissions intensity proposed by Canadian Natural Resources Ltd for its Horizon project, due to start up later this year, Alberta could cut its emissions by 3 percent a year, it said.
If all companies had similar water use to Petro-Canada’s proposed Fort Hills project, the oil sands industry could reduce its consumption by almost 60 percent, said the report, which took a year to complete.
Canadian Natural got an overall 31 percent mark and Petro-Canada scored 37 percent. The average was 33 percent.
Canada’s oil sands are the target of more than $100 billion of investment as the world’s oil industry aims to cash in on the need to feed growing demand for secure oil supplies, especially in the United States.
Mined oil sands from Shell, Syncrude Canada Ltd. and Suncor Energy Inc, are processed into about 800,000 barrels of refinery-ready light crude a day, which is roughly 30 percent of the country’s overall oil output.
Output is expected to triple by the middle of the next decade, an increase in the energy-intensive business that is alarming to environmentalists and residents of towns near the northern oil sands hub of Fort McMurray, Alberta.  The oil industry said it was not surprised by the findings, pointing out that some of the equipment being used is older and less efficient and that it is being upgraded every few years. “It points out areas that I think people are already working on, certainly that industry and government are already working on, said Pierre Alvarez, president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. “Everybody acknowledges there’s work to do but I think they also acknowledge that performance has improved and there’s the expectation it will continue to improve.” Pembina and the WWF also criticized the Alberta government, saying they found it provides the public with only limited summary information about developers’ environmental performance and much of that is out of date. “The government has not been in any way driving environmental performance. The government’s been as focused on growth as the industry has — it’s been ‘How fast can we go?’ not ‘How well can we do it?’” Woynillowicz said. He said the study is partly aimed at investors, who will eventually have to deal with liabilities among firms that do not live up to coming regulations for things like greenhouse gas emissions, which will carry major costs.”
 
AND THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE LOCAL GROUNDWATER HAS ALREADY BEEN POLLUTED BY THE  OIL -WATER SETTLING DAMS AS WELL.
 
Rest of Canada would suffer if oilsands were to get emissions deal: study EDMONTON – A new environmental study warns that other regions of Canada would suffer if a national cap-and-trade system for greenhouse gas emissions made allowances for Alberta’s oilsands
   

Prentice defends oilsands following National Geographic article

CBC.ca -  A portion of the Shell Albian Sands oilsands mine is seen from an overlook near Fort McMurray, Alta. (Jeff McIntosh/Canadian Press)Canada will continue to

Harper stays silent on Gaza

  
   
Waves of anger sweeps across the World. Hundreds of Thousands call for Mid-East peace, call for peace in Israel and Gaza, as well as recognition of the citizen’s view of the conflict there, and they want both Gaza and Israel to be free, calling  called for a sustained ceasefire and an end to all violence in the region.  ” We look upon the increasing loss of life on both sides of the Gaza conflict with horror ” . “We have no doubt that these conflicts by  Israel, and by Hamas and other militant Palestinian groups, are war crimes against the innocent citizens.  “No sovereign state should, or would, tolerate continued attacks and the deliberate targeting of civilians.  We all must demand  an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. WASHINGTON: Several thousand protesters – 10,000 according to organizers – descended on the White House in support of Palestinians in Gaza, on the heels of other protests across major world capitals. The two biggest protests calling for an end to Israel’s military offensive in the Gaza Strip took place in London and Paris, and elsewhere..
 
As far as I am concerned both sides are really not interested in any real peaceful settlements, negotiations, as History has clearly shown the last 50 years too.. both sides here tend to be really imperfect, have done many wrongs, are often equally guilty thus.. so you cannot really ask me to take one or the other sides .. An Impossible Peace: Israel/Palestine
 
 
“When the world community at the UN tried to stop the violence, the call for a ceasefire was blocked by the U.S., and Canada, to its shame, has fully supported the U.S., actually opposing the call for an immediate ceasefire,”  “These actions by Canada and the U.S. amount to a green light for the killing to continue, and they make our governments complicit to the crimes being waged in Gaza.” – David Orchard.   David Orchard who entered the Israeli consulate said people in that the city of Montreal could not support the continued bombing in Gaza. He also called for the federal government to break off relations with Israel until the military action stops.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090108/national/gaza_canada_reaction 
 
Latest update Jan 9, 2009 “.MONTREAL – Prime Minister Stephen Harper is echoing previous assertions that Canada supports an “effective and durable” ceasefire in Gaza. His comments in Montreal today come a day after the UN Security Council approved a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire and the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza. Harper says the Canadian government has been clear on its position. He says both parties, Israel and Hamas, are responsible for coming to such an agreement. ” BUT Israel and Hamas ignore UN call for cease-fire.
 
 
Who will save Israel from herself?  Not the UN,  Canada, US, or  Middle East Quartet, the European Union, the United Nations, or the Arab League. Oxford University professor Avi Shlaim, Sees Israel today as a “rogue” and gangster” state led by “completely unscrupulous leaders”. Neve Gordon, a politics professor at Ben Gurion University, has declared that Israel’s actions in Gaza are like “raising animals for slaughter on a farm” and represent a “bizarre new moral element” in warfare.”The moral voice of restraint has been left behind … Everything is permitted” against Palestinians, writes a disgusted Haaretz columnist, Gideon Levy. Fellow Haaretz columnist and daughter of Holocaust survivors, Amira Haas writes of her late parents disgust at how Israeli leaders justified Israel’s wars with a “language laundromat” aimed at redefining reality and Israel’s moral compass. “Lucky my parents aren’t alive to see this,” she exclaimed. Around the world people are beginning to compare Israel’s attack on Gaza, which after the 2005 withdrawal of Israeli forces and settlers was turned literally into the world’s largest prison, to the Jewish uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto. “
 
 
“One by one the justifications given by Israel for its latest war in Gaza are unravelling.The argument that this is a purely defensive war, launched only after Hamas broke a six-month ceasefire has been challenged, not just by observers in the know such as Jimmy Carter, the former US president who helped facilitate the truce, but by centre-right Israeli intelligence think tanks. The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, whose December 31 report titled “Six Months of the Lull Arrangement Intelligence Report,” confirmed that the June 19 truce was only “sporadically violated, and then not by Hamas but instead by … “rogue terrorist organisations”.Instead, “the escalation and erosion of the lull arrangement” occurred after Israel killed six Hamas members on November 4 without provocation and then placed the entire Strip under an even more intensive siege the next day. According to a joint Tel Aviv University-European University study, this fits a larger pattern in which Israeli violence has been responsible for ending 79 per cent of all lulls in violence since the outbreak of the second intifada, compared with only 8 per cent for Hamas and other Palestinian factions. Indeed, the Israeli foreign ministry seems to realise that this argument is losing credibility…  the claim that the Israeli forces have gone out of their way to diminish civilian casualties – long a centre-piece of Israel’s image as an enlightened and moral democracy – is falling apart. Anyone with an internet connection can Google “Gaza humanitarian catastrophe” and find the UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the Occupied Territories and read the thousands of pages of evidence documenting the reality of the current fighting, and the long term siege on Gaza that preceded it. The Red Cross, normally scrupulous in its unwillingness to single out parties to a conflict for criticism, sharply criticised Israel for preventing medical personnel from reaching wounded Palestinians, some of whom remained trapped for days, slowly starving and dying in the Gazan rubble amidst their dead relatives. Meanwhile, the United Nations has flatly denied Israeli claims that Palestinian fighters were using the UNRWA school compound bombed on January 6, in which 40 civilians were killed, to launch attacks, and has challenged Israel to prove otherwise. Additionally, numerous flippant remarks by senior Israeli politicians and generals, including Tzipi Livni, the foreign minister, refusing to make a distinction between civilian people and institutions and fighters – “Hamas doesn’t … and neither should we” is how Livni puts it – are rightly being seen as admissions of war crimes.As Richard Falk, the UN special rapporteur, declared in his most recent statement on Gaza: “It should be pointed out unambiguously that there is no legal (or moral) justification for firing rockets at civilian targets, and that such behavior is a violation of IHR, associated with the right to life, as well as constitutes a war crime.” By the same logic, however, Israel does not have the right to use such attacks as an excuse to launch an all-out assault on the entire population of Gaza.
    
“Canadian leaders back Israel as Harper stays silent on Gaza By Shadi Elien
In the nearly two weeks since Israel began its latest air strikes in Gaza, humanitarian groups and activists around the world have condemned Israel’s actions and called for a ceasefire. Meanwhile, many Canadian politicians appear to condone the offensive route being taken by Israel.

Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon has spoken on behalf of the Conservative government in regards to Canada’s position on the conflict. In a statement released on December 27, Cannon said: “Israel has a clear right to defend itself against the continued rocket attacks by Palestinian militant groups which have deliberately targeted civilians.” He urged both sides to create conditions that would allow humanitarian aide to be accessed by those who need it in Gaza but insisted that “first and foremost those rocket attacks must stop”.

Israel’s attacks on the densely populated Gaza Strip began on December 26, and escalated into a ground offensive on January 3. The number of Palestinians killed and injured continues to grow each day. According to BBC News, at least 683 have been killed and more than 3,085 injured.

Forty people were killed and 55 were injured yesterday (January 6) when Israeli mortar fire struck the UN-run al-Fakhura school in the Jabaliya refugee camp.

Canada’s junior foreign minister, Peter Kent, commented on the strike in an interview this week with the Globe and Mail, stating that Hamas “bears the full responsibility for the deepening humanitarian tragedy”. Despite the lack of information available from Gaza, due to an Israeli ban on journalists entering the war-torn territory, Kent insisted that Hamas is the root cause of the civilian fatalities.

“We really don’t have complete details yet, other than the fact that we know that Hamas has made a habit of using civilians and civilian infrastructure as shields for their terrorist activities, and that would seem to be the case again today,” he said.

Some members of Parliament have not been as quick to blame Hamas for the deaths. In an open letter to Prime Minister Stephen Harper dated yesterday, Vancouver East MP Libby Davies urged the Canadian government to condemn the attacks and demand an immediate ceasefire.

“The lack of leadership from the Canadian government is shameful in the face of such events,” Davies stated.

Davies said she has received many messages from her constituents who were “outraged that Canada has done nothing”.

The Foreign Affairs Department had tried to help 36 Canadians leave the region on January 5, but the Israeli Defence Force, which controls movement in the area, stopped the operation. Speaking after a government caucus meeting, Cannon stated that security measures prevented them from helping those who wanted to return to Canada safely, according to the Canadian Press.

Today, Canada donated $4 million toward the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, giving $3 million to the United Nations relief effort and another $1 million to the Red Cross, according to CP.

The leader of the Opposition, Michael Ignatieff, also released a statement concurring with the view of the Conservatives and the majority of western politicians.

“The Liberal Party of Canada unequivocally condemns the rocket attacks launched by Hamas against Israeli civilians and calls for an immediate end to their attacks,” Ignatieff stated on December 29.

He called for Canada to provide humanitarian aid but held firm on his stance that Israel has the right to defend itself against the attacks.

As of today, no official statements have been made by Harper on the matter, who has remained quiet on the conflict in Gaza.

However, Harper found time to express congratulations to Canada’s World Junior Hockey team in two separate news releases on the Conservative Party of Canada Web site.”   http://www.straight.com/article-179114/canadian-leaders-back-israel-harper-stays-silent-gaza 

Many true evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank.  They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians.  If all of the  learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and admit that right was the same God who took them next away from that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together.
 
 

“THE CHRISTIAN AND MISSIONARY ALLIANCE, Update from Dr. Benedict – By Gary M. Benedict – August 16, 2007  I recently joined other evangelical leaders in signing a letter to President Bush concerning peace in the Middle East. The letter represents my personal conviction and does not represent the official position of The Alliance or the Board of Directors of the C&MA. The Christian and Missionary Alliance has been ministering in the Arab lands since 1890. For more than 110 years, we have been working among Israelis and Palestinians. We are seeking to fulfill Jesus’ Commission to take the gospel to people in all nations.  The letter I signed encourages President Bush to continue to pursue a peaceful solution to the conflict in the region. We are instructed in the Bible to “seek peace and pursue it,” yet I understand that the only true and lasting peace will come when the Prince of Peace returns. Please join me in praying for the peace of Jerusalem and that many will find the peace that passes all understanding through Jesus.  We share a common concern for peace in the region and the commitment to obey Jesus’ command to spread the gospel to all people. May God be pleased to reach many and bring glory to our Lord.   Living the Call together, Gary M. Benedict  President   U.S. C&MA   ”    http://www.cmalliance.org/peaceLetter.jsp

The C&MA  is the professing Evangelical Stephen Harper’s own church  The CMA should practice what it preaches to others, and return the churches it stole from the others too.   http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/

Also in Reality Conservatives need firstly to practice peaceful coexistence  in Canada! . In my 20 years of posting on the net in Canada the biggest immoral human rights violators, abusers have been the Conservatives of Alberta who clearly do not tolerate free speech, the difference of views, and they next tend to lie about, slander, delete unwanted non conforming posters who do not go along with their too often immoral, redneck views.  http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2006/08/non-conformer.html

>- I have often been wrongfully abused on Alberta’s immoral conservative blogs too.. as I have detailed on the net fully too now.

Like I had posted on the net a long time ago too   “Reality In my 20 years of posting on the net in Canada the biggest immoral human rights violators, abusers have been the Conservatives of Alberta who clearly do not tolerate free speech, the difference of views, and they next tend to lie about, slander, delete unwanted non conforming posters who do not go along with their too often immoral, redneck views. – Here is a great example of what the Democratic Conservatives are really still like in Canada.. They still do immorally, wrongfully delete all my posts at http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/index.php and their clearly hypocritical pretense of freedom of speech is appalling  All the BS about democracy, still next indicates that the Conservatives are the biggest liars and abusers of other’s human rights. Simply just try to post disagreeing messages on the Conservative sites such as http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/ccd-forum.shtml or the Western Standard Blog http://westernstandard.blogs.com dominated by a minority of self centered, abusive rednecks and you for sure next will be firstly abused, slandered, personally bashed, attacked and next cut off, denied access to it. The self proclaimed Conservatives posters there in Alberta are still some of the biggest liars, human rights abusers even if they lie and claim they are Christians now too. It has been that way for the last 25 years in my real Albertan experiences now too. Even an Ostrich cannot hide from the realties of life forever. When you access the supposed free speech, democratic site of http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/ccd-forum.shtml the sysop accesses your own personal computer to find all of the personal information about you, an unlawful invasion of privacy without ones prior permission, and this the federal Conservative government and it’s Justice Minister, the RCMP should look into. The same sysop who himself is not impartial, but another one of these self proclaimed Conservative supporter, a basher and abuser, who makes slanderous personal attacks on the posters rather than deal with the facts presented, he even has admitted to spying now on others in one of his post too. I rightfully would like Alberta’s human rights also to review these matters too as well as the Justice department PS He had deleted my reply to him on this on him being an unlawful voyeur and other messages that were unfavorable to Alberta and it’s hypocritical democracy. I clearly had supported the Western Standard right of printing the cartoons under their right of free speech. But now I personally find out that their Internet site deliberately not only promotes hatred towards Canada, specially easterners but in an unfair and undemocratic process it deletes the unfavorable messages, towards Alberta too, such as this own below. This is both hypocritical and unacceptable on their parts. Please do Deal with it properly now. ” Western Standard’s invasion of other people’s computer is an illegal invasion of one’s personal privacy. – Comcast High-Speed Internet Acceptable Use Policy http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp .. we will “access any other person’s computer or computer system, software, or data without their knowledge and consent; breach the security of another user; or attempt to circumvent the user authentication or security of any host, network, or account. This includes, but is not limited to, accessing data not intended for you, logging into or making use of a server or account you are not expressly authorized to access, or probing the security of other hosts, networks, or accounts; ” Scary scary stuff. Let the Alberta Human rights commissioner, Justice department also know that know this is illegal now for the other parties did not consent to this in writing. ” http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006/03/an_immense_and_.html#  Clearly here too the Conservatives are still the big hypocrites who themselves do not keep the laws they preach to the others. ” http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006/03/alberta_leaders.html#comment-15217299 ” and next July it will be the Conservative Stephen Harper’s turn to lose face and face a reelection, and likely only another minority government.” http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2006/08/non-conformer.html

 

So why is it some people still do think they can get away with any of it when clearly they cannot.

Do see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/the-bible-and-the-jews/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/
  
- the dispensationalist reality
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

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