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May 13, 2010

It seems if the OPP and commissioner Julian Fantino are involved things tend to be sour

One a rotten apple always a rotten apple.. Again a serious public rage directed toward Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino.. Veteran Affairs minister 70-minute delay was ‘due to cabinet meeting that ran long’ cause the citizens and veterans are not important enough but veterans who spoke with CBC News are still angry with the cabinet minister, who wound up meeting only briefly with the vets..”What the minister did yesterday was disgraceful. The only thing we want is a commitment to keep open the eight offices and reopen the Prince George office. Veterans have earned that respect,” said a joint statement from veterans Ron Clarke, Bruce Moncur    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/julian-fantino-apologizes-for-late-arrival-at-meeting-with-vets-1.2515303

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Fantino was first elected to the House of Commons in a 2010 byelection. He was appointed to cabinet in 2011 and has also served as minister of international co-operation, minister of state for seniors and associate minister of defence.  Fantino had a long career in policing before entering federal politics, including serving as chief of the Toronto Police Service and commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/30/how-julian-fantino-went-from-star-mp-to-political-liability-he-has-not-heard-the-pleas-of-our-veterans/

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Next Julian Fantino is out as the federal Veterans Affairs  minister  too.. Jan 5, 2015. He becomes associate minister for national defence.  Julian Fantino  had  become a political vulnerability for the Conservative government in recent months. ” The Conservatives’ troubles on the veterans’ file started a year ago when some former military personnel objected to the closing of several Veterans Affairs offices across Canada. There has also been anger over layoffs and the department returning more than $1 billion to the federal treasury since 2006. In addition, Auditor General Michael Ferguson released a stinging report on wait times for mental health services in November, while the government was accused of trickery after it was revealed $200 million in new funding for mental-health services for veterans was to be spread out over 50 years.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/05/julian-fantino-out-as-veterans-affairs-minister-sources/

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I never did like Fantino or Canada’s police forces.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/the-police/

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Ex OPP police chief Julian Fantino  caught my attention when he clearly lied about the causes of car accidents in southern, he lied when he had said speeding is the main cause of car accidents in Ontario , he should have known better, distracted, drunk and impaired drivers, road ragers rather are the main cause of car accidents..  so next it came as no surprise to me when the Devil PM Stephen Harper himself asked Julian Fantino to become a Conservative federal MP candidate He should be right at home with the too may liars we have elected.. it seems we like to continue to elect Liars.
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TORONTO (CBC) – Ontario Attorney General Chris Bentley is defending the removal of four government lawyers from a case involving the province’s Special Investigations Unit, the Ontario Provincial Police, and the force’s commissioner, Julian Fantino.  Just hours before the court case began Thursday in Toronto, the government lawyers from the Ministry of the Attorney General withdrew their representation for the SIU, which has alleged that Fantino and OPP officers violated the Police Act regarding SIU investigations. Earlier this week, it came to light that Ian Scott, the director of the SIU, together with the signed backing of the four provincial government lawyers, had taken the unprecedented step of siding with a pair of grieving families of two men shot and killed last summer by OPP officers.  New Democrat MPP Peter Kormos noted other government lawyers are still working on the case, representing Fantino. The SIU has accused Fantino and a number of his officers of breaking the law by failing to properly co-operate with probes into the shootings. The watchdog has accused Fantino of failing to ensure officers promptly notified the SIU of one case last June. In a second incident, Scott has accused Fantino of failing to ensure officers were properly segregated by allowing them to consult the same lawyer and to prepare two sets of notes only submitting a final version of events vetted by their lawyer. The SIU had the four Ministry of the Attorney General lawyers draft its legal position and sign the statement of facts prepared for Thursday morning’s court hearing. In court Thursday. Also in court were about 25 family members and friends of the two dead men Doug Minty and Levi Schaeffer. Minty, a 59-year-old with a mental disability, was shot five times on June 22, 2009, by an OPP officer. Minty had become agitated as the result of a visit from a door-to-door salesman, and police were called to the house. “I want answers to Doug’s death,” said his mother, Evelyn Minty. “It should never have happened.” John Minty, a brother of Doug, said he was astounded at how many police organizations were in court. “I guess if I was in any way cynical, I’d believe they are trying essentially to spend us out of the case, that we’ll run out of money before they will,” he said. Schaeffer, 30, of Peterborough, Ont., suffered from schizoaffective panic and personality disorder. On June 24, 2009, Schaeffer was camping near Osnaburgh Lake when he got into an altercation with the OPP, which resulted in an officer shooting twice and killing him.  The hearing is to continue Friday. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/100513/canada/canada_siu_opp_fantino_shootings

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TORONTO – Families of two men shot dead by police in Ontario squared off against police groups Thursday in a court battle over how officers prepare notes of such incidents and deal with civilian investigators afterward.  Outside court, emotional family members said they were simply looking to find out exactly what happened to their loved ones. “I don’t want mothers to go through what I’m going through,” said Evelyn Minty, mother of Doug Minty, 59, who was shot dead in June last year. “It’s a year. I can’t forget it. I can’t sleep nights.” The families, through their lawyer Julian Falconer, are asking the courts for a declaration the officers violated the law around how police co-operated with the province’s Special Investigations Unit after the killings. They assert, among other things, that allowing the officer who pulled the trigger and officers who witnessed the incident to consult the same lawyer effectively amounts to collusion. They also say the officers first provided notes to their lawyer, before turning them over to the civilian investigators. SIU investigators expressed concern about police “tampering” with evidence, and the agency’s director, Ian Scott, said he could not determine what had happened because he could not rely on the officers’ notes. “I don’t know what to believe about the circumstances of my son’s death,” said Ruth Schaeffer, mother of Levi Schaeffer, 30, whom police killed in a separate shooting also last June. “I am hoping this may throw some light on it or at least change the situation where the police write their notes in a timely fashion and not two days after the fact, and also that they write their notes before meeting with counsel.”  The proceedings became murkier after the province’s Ministry of the Attorney General, of which the SIU is part, withdrew from the hearing, leaving Scott to find his own lawyer. Attorney General Chris Bentley’s hints at some kind of conflict of interest prompted the opposition New Democrats and Minty’s relatives to accuse him of succumbing to police-union bullying. “In this most peculiar, this bizarre, this astounding turn of events, the attorney general responds to police pressure and this alleged conflict by pulling his lawyers from representing its own agency,” New Democrat Peter Kormos said outside the legislature.  Outside court, Doug Minty’s sister, Diane Pinder, said it appeared the police unions had scared Bentley. “The SIU had backed us, and now they’ve pulled out,” Pinder said. “They’re intimidated by the police union.” Minty, of Elmvale, Ont., who was mentally challenged, was shot five times outside his home, apparently after threatening the officer with a small utility knife. Two days later, Schaeffer, of Peterborough, Ont., who had mental-health issues, was shot dead at a remote lake in northern Ontario following an altercation with two officers.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100513/national/siu_investigations

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Ont. lawyers pulled from SIU case against OPP  CBC.ca –  Ontario Attorney General Chris Bentley is defending the removal of four government lawyers from a case involving the province’s Special Investigations Unit, the Ontario Provincial Police, and the force’s commissioner, Julian Fantino.

AG ‘buckling to police lobby,’ Kormos says National Post

Lawyers pulled from hearing into whether officers break laws Toronto Star

Toronto Sun – TbNewsWatch.com – Minden Times – NOW Toronto

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/mismanagement-the-key-word-in-canadas-civil-and-public-services-today/

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https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/top-cop-called-to-be-accountiable-by-the-courts/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/ex-toronto-police-chief-julian-fantino-is-one-of-those-bad-apples/

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https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/now-there-are-good-and-bad-laws-too/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/provincial-police-commissioner-police-personnel-also-known-to-play-dirty-politics-2/

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https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/speeding-is-not-the-major-cause-of-car-accidents-still/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/its-about-time/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/hidden-municpal-police-taxes/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/no-such-thing-as-a-little-bit-pregnant/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/dirty-rcmp-lays-dirty-again/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/and-who-is-paying-for-this/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/up-to-no-good/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/cops-lie-too/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/speed-related-highway-fatalities/

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