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March 9, 2010

Ex-Alberta MP Jaffer’s drug, Impaired driving charges dropped


 

Public should know more about Jaffer: Nicholson  Globe and Mail  Mr. Jaffer is a former Conservative MP from Edmonton. He is married to Harper”s cabinet minister Helena Guergis.
 
Political stereotypes, joined at the hip National Post  What we think is this: that these people enter public life booming their concern for the little guy, the average Joe, the set-upon taxpayer, but as soon as they clip on their MP wings they can’t wait to shake off the dust of where they came from, parade their special status and go full prima donna as a matter of right.  Stephen Harper, we all remember, came out of Reform, a populist political movement that very particularly made a point of reminding Canadians how politicians, “once they got to Ottawa,” forgot the people, lost touch with their roots, ignored their constituents.  

Guergis, Jaffer at height of hypocrisy TheChronicleHerald.ca  IT’S NO WONDER that many young people don’t pay attention to politics. It is a dreary parade of lumpy middle-aged people in suits reading misleading and evasive talking points to one another, projecting emotions they don’t feel as they defend their parties, attack other parties and attempt to attract the attention of tuned-out voters with dim-witted propaganda. Thank goodness, then, for Helena Guergis and Rahim Jaffer, the Tory poster couple for bad behaviour, for offering young people a bit of titillation this week. It has been pretty good theatre — a farce in two acts — wherein they behave badly, with no consequences to themselves beyond public scorn, and we all get to enjoy the spectacle. The Tories look like they are coddling a couple of spoiled brats, and they look like hypocrites. Much of the Tories’ electoral success was based on a simple-minded anti-crime message. They promise to get tough, and pass laws requiring mandatory sentences. They self-righteously and dishonestly bleat at the opposition for obstructing those bills, and then kill those bills by proroguing. The Jaffer case still points to the reality of our criminal justice system. A lot of people get light sentences because of plea bargains.Sad..

Jaffer and Guergis have done us all a favour for drawing attention to the limits of the Conservatives’ crime agenda. Their farcical support of it too.. When it came to appealing the light sentence given to one of their own the Conservatives shut up.

The Canadian Press

Conservative minister Helena Guergis, minister of state for the status of women, was recently forced to apologize for an angry outburst against airport and Air Canada staff in Charlottetown. She allegedly seethed at being put through airline procedures as she arrived minutes before a scheduled flight, calling the city a “hellhole” and uttering a profanity.  Guergis   is also dealing with the fallout from husband Rahim Jaffer’s careless-driving charge. Jaffer, a former Conservative MP, saw charges of impaired driving and drug possession dropped – a “break” in the words of the judge who heard his case.

This is the same new Political party that had promised to be good, different from all the others firstly but basically still are the same.

Too many Canadians  consider  the apparent incompetence, favouritism and indifference exhibited by the Crown in withdrawing the more serious charges, including impaired driving, laid against Jaffer as unacceptable. The former Reform and Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer gets a slap on the wrist. He received what even the judge in the case conceded was a “break”. Next the  Law and order Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper, federal Justice Minister, and the federal security minister are not demanding a retrial cause they are happy one of their own got off scott free?  Considering Jaffer’s own tough-on-crime messages and the Conservative government’s dim view of lenient sentencing by judges, this all smells  of real hypocrisy now to all..

The $500 fine given to former Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer for careless driving by an Ontario judge on March 9, after he was initially charged with cocaine possession, impaired driving and speeding, hardly sends a message as a deterrent. This case raises the question, Can influence, money and a good lawyer sway the course of justice? Most Canadians will consider the penalty handed out to Jaffer to be unreasonable. http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Jaffer+sentence+laws+jeopardy/2669583/story.html

Former Conservative MP Rahim Jafferwas stopped for speeding north of Toronto last September. Provincial police from the Caledon detachment arrested him after he admitted to having consumed two bottles of beer and he failed a breath test.Police laid three charges against Jaffer – possession of cocaine, drunk driving and speeding – for doing 90 kilometres an hour in a 50 km/h zone. The advocacy group Mothers Against Drunk Driving has written to Ontario’s attorney general, demanding to know why the drunk driving case against Jaffer fell apart. “It is critical that answers be provided as to why the case did not proceed with the original charges, given that the evidence appeared to warrant and support the charges,” wrote MADD Canada’s National President Margaret Miller in the letter. The NDP’s justice critic, Joe Comartin,  said he wants both the provincial attorney general and Justice Minister Rob Nicholson to explain to Canadians why very serious charges against Jaffer were dropped, because there’s a “perception” of a double-standard.

Former Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer pleaded guilty today in Orangeville, Ont., to careless driving.  Charges of cocaine possession and drunk driving were withdrawn. Jaffer, who is married to junior federal cabinet minister Helena Guergis, was fined $500. Jaffer, 38, was arrested last Sept. 10 after police stopped him for speeding in Palgrave, Ont., north of Toronto.  The judge said he hoped the former politician recognized the break he was getting. Jaffer was first elected as an Alberta Conservative MP in 1997 but lost in his riding in 2008.

“WHAT?!!!  What a joke. How in the hell do you plead coke possession and impaired driving down to careless driving?  This slimeball should be in jail. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.”
 
 

Sadly  this is a crappy judgment.. a poor ordinary fellow would get no breaks like this.. Our Conservative government law and order, accountability falsely does not apply to one of their own..

 The decision drew howls of outrage from government critics, who accused the Conservatives of gross hypocrisy for promoting an aggressive “tough-on-crime” agenda but remaining silent when the mantra was not applied to one of their own. Conservatives, up to and including the prime minister, have publicly criticized judges for sentences they deemed too light. Harper, unsolicited, publicly questioned the sentence handed to a Toronto terrorism convict in January.  But on Tuesday several Conservative MPs stressed that the Jaffer court proceedings were in Ontario jurisdiction and had nothing to do with the federal government. Yet political intervention is precisely what the Conservatives are pushing when they enact mandatory minimum sentencing laws, said several experts. “Prosecutors and judges strike deals to preserve proportionality. But because they can’t do it in public, they do it behind closed doors.” And a well-recorded history of increased plea bargains in areas of mandatory minimum sentences suggests it is people like Jaffer – connected, educated, wealthy – who benefit most, said criminologist Neil Boyd of Simon Fraser University in Burnaby. B.C. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100309/national/crime_jaffer_tory_justice

Judge gives former Tory MP $500 slap on wrist Toronto Star When he was re-elected in 2006, Prime Minister Stephen Harper named him chair of the Conservative caucus.

Tories bristle when asked to explain Rahim Jaffer’s ‘slap on the wrist’ Globe and Mail (blog)

Tories should take Jaffer lesson to heart, dump minimum sentences: experts The Canadian Press

Poor optics on Jaffer sentence Ottawa Citizen

  

 
 
 
 
 
 so next the drunk cops will be let of the hook too ehhh
Rahim Jaffer and Helena Guergis have become the poster couple for political entitlement. Jaffer, a former MP and one-time chair of the Conservatives’s national caucus, was under intense pressure Wednesday to explain how he dodged impaired driving and cocaine possession charges in a plea bargain that earned him a $500 fine for careless driving. And the appearance of preferential treatment in his case was linked to that of his wife, the junior status of women minister who was allowed to board a plane last month despite throwing a public, obscenity-laced tantrum at Charlottetown airport.  Guergis issued a written statement apologizing for speaking “emotionally” to airport and airline staff while catching a plane. She conceded her conduct — allegedly yelling at employees, trying to force her way through a security barrier and grousing about being “stuck in this hell hole” — was inappropriate. Get rid of this couple they are an embaressement to all Canadians!!
 
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/now-there-are-good-and-bad-laws-too/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/pm-stephen-harper-does-drink-alcohol/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/rcmp-officers-faces-impaired-charge/
 

November 23, 2009

All Cops need to go after real criminals still

 
 

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People in leadership office do have to face higher penalties as an example now too. It is clearly established, accepted fact by most people that those in leadership civil and public servants cops, teachers, ministers, politicians included  are always to be exemplary in behavior,  conduct and they do need to maintain their high standards even out of their working hours, thus to do so they are also to be exemplary  judged, prosecuted  for their own wrong doings with a higher standard over those of us ordinary folks.

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The self serving political watchdogs, the police forces in Canada  in reality they  still do too  often lie when they say they serve the citizen’s, public best interests..

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Too many police officers are now too often guilty of their most serious neglect of public trust and their duty. The related truth is that neither an independent police investigation, a new police commissioner,  a promised provincial or federal investigation, or just more politicians promises too often still   will not bring the much needed justice. All of the governments can prohibit the initial and further employment of any known racists for any jobs, and can  punish them for their racists acts, views.

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Police managers continue to lie with their own promises of the reforming of bad cops and the bad cops keep killing, abusing  innocent persons. The possible retraining of bad  police officers is always anyway a false myth. What thus is always needed is the real  the dismissal, criminal prosecution, of the guilty cops. So where is it?

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Speeding is not the main cause of car accidents, impaired driving is, but too many cops are alcoholics it seems who wrongfully do sympathize with drunks and as a result do not arrest drunks all year..

 

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Ontario stands firm on street racing law Toronto Star  A judge overturned the stunt-driving conviction of Jane Raham, 62, of Oakville who accelerated past a truck to get out of its blind spot. A second Ontario judge has ruled that the province’s stunt driving legislation is unconstitutional, but provincial police say they will continue to lay charges under the so-called street racing law.A street-racing charge automatically leads to a conviction, which can carry a minimum fine of $2,000, an immediate driver suspension and vehicle impoundment, as well as a maximum jail sentence of six months.Justice Peter West, a provincial court judge in Newmarket, found that an accused driver’s Charter rights are “clearly infringed” by the potential jail time because the law doesn’t permit the person to put forward a defence. More than 15,000 drivers have been charged under the stunt driving laws since they were introduced in 2007, Ont. street-racing law constitutional, says AG CTV.ca

Judge tosses stunt-driving charge as unconstitutional National Post

EVEN COPS DO NOT THINK SPEEDING IS A SERIOUS CRIME…

Feb. 10 2009 4:35:51 PM  The Canadian Press  TORONTO — It appears no one is exempt from Ontario’s street racing law — including the police. A provincial police officer in an unmarked vehicle was stopped on Highway 403 on Jan. 31 for driving 65 km/h over the limit. Det.-Const. Heidi Fischer was charged after an investigation determined she was “not within the lawful execution of her duties at the time.” Because she was charged with exceeding the speed limit by more than 50 km/h, her driver’s licence was suspended for seven days — and her police vehicle was also impounded for a week..

ALL THESE HARSHER POLICE DEMANDS ARE MAKING CANADA  A  POLICE STATE  Giving more money to the polcie does not increase justice rather it tends to make a police state instead..

It is billed by the London Police Department Chief as “the best (shooting) range in Ontario.” At $22 million, it is certainly modern but one of the features might sit poorly with judges and civil libertarians.  While police can shoot a fleeing suspect that presents an imminent threat to the public, it is relatively rare in most crimes and raises obvious questions under Tennessee v. Garner. The entire project will ultimately cost $32 million and the facility’s gun range is billed as training officers to do a range of shooting,
http://jonathanturley.org/2009/12/09/canadian-police-department-builds-new-firing-range-that-helps-train-officers-how-to-shoot-fleeing-suspects/

Meanwhile  a Toronto doctor is facing a disciplinary hearing over allegations he approved special meal allowances for people on welfare and disability programs according to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario.  Dr. Roland Wong,  said he continues to approve applications for the special diet but only if he believes patients have an underlying medical condition that qualifies them for the financial supplement.  “Today, I signed maybe five, four,” he said. “Sometimes more, depends.”  He accused the auditor general of having a very “slanted view” of the program, and suggested he should be looking instead at the woefully inadequate support payments paid to people in need.  Wong said he wasn’t overly concerned about the disciplinary hearing because it was based on a complaint laid against him by a municipal councillor.  “This is a case of politicians against a physician, not the patient against the physician,” he said.  The Special Diet Allowance provides up to $250 per month to a person on social assistance who requires special foods for such conditions as diabetes.  Councillor Doug Holyday said  . “This can’t go on.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/torsun/091209/canada/doc_faces_probe_over_dietary_payouts     Quebec and other provinces have no such adequate help program and why?

It is not the rapists, drunk drivers that mostly  fill the courts calendars, docks it is mostly the revenue generating traffic tickets.. if the government wants to get tough on crime, as it purports, it should go after the real criminals. Drunk, impaired drivers too.  After all speeding is not the major cause of vehicular accidents, what you did not know that yet? and the police Chief himself did not tell you? What is then the cause of major car accidents? Drunk driving, road rage, impaired driving, distracted while driving…. and what the revenue generating traffic division has not gone after all this mostly instead yet too? and why Not? The Cops becoming judge and jury, now taking the law into their own hands  even when they still say ” In most cases, our cops are the best to judge if stunt driving is really stunt driving. Or, is it simply speeding. If that is the case, they should charge accordingly or face more legal challenges.” And them the cops still being continually soft on drunk drivers is cause too many cops do  drink alcohol now too?  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/speeding-is-not-the-major-cause-of-car-accidents-still/

Alcoholic Anonymous  helps  alcoholics  AND EVEN HOSPITALS ARE FOR ALL PERSONS. FURTHER MORE WHEN THE TAXPAYER’S MONEY IS ABUSED BY THIEVES, or bad civil and public servants, AND TOO MANY ALCOHOLICS, IT IS THE PROGRAMS, SERVICES TO THE POOR AND NEEDY PERSONS THAT ARE GENERALLY FIRST MADE TO PAY FOR IT. WE NEED BETTER BUDGET CONTROLS AND BETTER PUNISHMENT OF THE BAD GUYS TOO.IN ONE YEAR 60% of fatally injured drivers in Canada had a positive reading for blood alcohol and 160,000 people were convicted of impaired driving .

And   generally alcohol-related driving offences account for approximately 25% of all Criminal Code prosecutions. 

If you drink and drive, it’s everybody’s business  still. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/no-rcmp-alcoholics-it-seems/

This also offers a Canadian window into the state’s overwrought preoccupation with making money at all costs, disregarding the citizens concerns too. Sadly Like too many political parties it seems the citizens mainly do not count, their views or needs, desires. they only count on election days. I was once talking to deputy Minister Ken Kowalski of Alberta about this as to why and he replied cause in Alberta they do not pay the taxes. But rather the real reason is the too often lack of respect for the all of citizens still by our leaders, civil and public servants most political parties Canada wide.. Police, RCMP’s unacceptable, poor attitudes towards most of the citizens now as well

http://picasaweb.google.com/anonconformer/Thenonconformer# OR

 

And do see  also the other posts here about bad cops, alcohol and speeding..
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/the-unfortunate-facts-of-life/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/third-police-vehicle-impounded-under-hypocrtical-speeding-legislation/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/drunk-driving-arrests-jump/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/a-blatant-tax-on-the-motorist-speed-cameras/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/call-it-what-you-want-but-it-is-not-about-safety/
http://thenonconformer.multiply.com/journal/item/1/No_cop_is_above_the_law
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/paradoxically-despite-all-the-dangers-warnings/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/pretentious-incompetent-in-real-life/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/speeding-is-not-the-major-cause-of-car-accidents-still/

November 9, 2009

Mountie faces second impaired driving charge

but the RCMP had said there are no RCMP alcholics, or less than a handful?

He has been a constable in the RCMP for about 16 years, according to RCMP, and has been on medical leave since the first incident. and has been an Alcoholic now for how many years as well? and his supervisors now as well?

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 http://picasaweb.google.com/anonconformer/Thenonconformer#
 
 RCMP officer charged with impaired driving Vancouver Sun
CTV British Columbia – The Province – News1130 
   
When the too often immoral, lying RCMP Public relationship department tells the public that there are on the average only 3 alcoholic RCMP offices in Canada per year and we have had more than that Number RCMP officers caught drunk driving this year.. We have had news media report of some Police officers in BC now getting drunk often after work even in the Police stations and likely driving home as well. It is an undeniable fact that Police taverns are often filled with police officer after the shift has ended, and likely many of them drive home drunk.. but it is the citizens that seem to mostly end up on drunk charges in the court and mostly natives now as well.. 
 
 Certainly do not believe that all justice  is even best carried out, being done in the Queen’s courts, or by the too often  rigged Commissions, masturbating self regulating societies? How often do you even see bad lawyers, bad cops, bad RCMP, bad professionals, bad Politicians, bad alcoholics IN CANADA get their rightful dues now? Very rarely!!  
  

Vancouver Mountie faces second impaired driving charge in two months The Canadian Press  VANCOUVER, BC – A Mountie in Vancouver is facing his second impaired driving charge in two months. Vancouver police say they pulled the off-duty officer over Saturday morning and breath samples showed he was over the legal limit for blood alcohol. The 55-year-old officer, whose name has not been released, (But yours likely would be posted) already had a court date from a previous impaired driving charge and was prohibited from driving for 90 days. He’s now been charged with driving while prohibited, impaired driving and driving with a blood alcohol level over the legal limit. ( He likely also is still getting paid as a Mounties too) He is the latest in a number of Metro Vancouver police officers who have faced impaired driving charges in the last two years, including a Mountie charged in a Delta, B.C., crash that killed a 21-year-old motorcyclist in October 2008. The officer in that case, Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robertson, was the one who gave the order to use a Taser on Robert Dziekanski before the Polish man died at Vancouver airport in October 2007.

 

RCMP officer arrested 2nd time for drunk driving in Vancouver CBC.ca  The off-duty Mountie was arrested Saturday morning after a Vancouver police officer watched a man urinate in the Spanish Banks parking lot on N.W. Marine Drive and then get into a vehicle and attempt to drive away.After the Vancouver officer stopped the vehicle and identified the man as an RCMP officer, the man failed to pass a breathalyzer test, said police. Vancouver police are recommending he face charges of driving while prohibited, impaired driving and driving with blood-alcohol exceeding 80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. He was released and is scheduled to appear in court on Jan. 8. The 55-year-old officer, assigned to RCMP’s E Division headquarters, was previously arrested Oct. 3 after an accident on the Second Narrows Bridge, said police. In that incident, police suspended his licence and recommended charges of impaired driving. He was scheduled to appear in court Nov. 20 in that case. The officer’s name has not yet been released because the Crown counsel has not yet approved a criminal charge from either of the two incidents, ( because Crown counsel is also an acoholic?)  but police did say the man has been a member of RCMP for 16 years and has been on medical leave since the October incident. Impaired driving is the No.1 criminal cause of death in Canada ( note not speeding) . “As police officers, we have seen first-hand the carnage and death caused by this irresponsible behaviour. This makes it all the more difficult when an incident involves one of our own.” ( and it occurs too often now too) -Go to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Pull his Licence. Take his badge end of story.   These types of police officers bring a bad image to the rest of the force, which as a whole, does a very good job. So this suspended officer, has been caught again, and then he is released, and after having an accident in the first incidence. This person should be held in custody, he is obviously a danger to the public and to himself. Are there two sets of laws? What a shame, however, he MUST be held to the same standard as any other person in Canada. Peace Officers need to be beyond reproach, and in the case of the RCMP as of late, even more so.  I also would like to know why no charges have been filed from the first incident??? Seems odd to me. Twice eh? Wonder if the Crown will approve the charges? If it was me, Im sure charges will already be laid and my name all over the local papers. Medical leave my arse,…. what his medical condition….hungover?
 
 

 
Hey, RCMP officers, when will you wake up from drunkenness? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), colloquially known as Mounties, is the national police force of Canada. RCMP officers should be the representatives of responsibility, dignity, honesty, and honour. Some BC Lower Mainland’s police officers really smeared the image of RCMP in people’s minds. In two years, five Lower Mainland RCMP officers faced charges of drunk driving. On Oct. 4, 2009, Sunday, around 4:20 a.m., the fifth officer, who works at the RCMP’s Vancouver headquarters, was arrested for impaired driving after his car hit a cement barrier near the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge. Two passengers on his car were sent to hospital and the driver failed the alcohol test on the scene. He was off-duty that time. The other four drunk driving cases the Lower Mainland RCMP officers involved in were: On Sept. 25, an officer from Coquitlam of BC was charged with impaired driving after being stopped by policemen of his own police bureau. Last November, one of the four officers involved in Robert Dziekanski’s stun-gun case was arrested for drunk driving after he hit and killed a young motorcyclist in Delta of BC. Near the end of 2007, Cpl. Darren Baker and Const. Kulwant Singh Malhi were charged with impaired driving in West Vancouver and Richmond of BC respectively. What’s wrong with the RCMP officers of BC Lower Mainland? Come on. Please don’t ruin people’s trust anymore.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4333290-whats-wrong-with-mounties
  
 
Charges have been stayed for an RCMP officer accused of driving drunk and fleeing after a fender-bender three years ago. Const. Kulwant Singh Malhi, 43, was charged in 2008 with failure to stop at an accident, impaired driving and dangerous operation of a motor vehicle.  The charges were stayed by a judge in B.C. Provincial Court in Richmond Thursday on the third and final day of Malhi’s trial. Malhi remains suspended with pay and a Code of Conduct investigation is under way.
 
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/liars-mounties-misleading-everyone/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/murderous-cops-coverup-is-ongoing/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/no-rcmp-alcoholics-it-seems/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/7479/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/new-project-hopes-to-slashes-actual-residential-car-speed-limits/
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/speeding-is-not-the-major-cause-of-car-accidents-still/
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/unacceptable-rcmp-coverup-of-the-killing-of-robert-dziekanski/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/rcmp-officers-faces-impaired-charge/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/unwanted-rcmp/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/the-mickey-mouse-rcmp-in-canada/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/cops-lie-too/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/rcmp-likely-needs-to-be-totally-disbanded/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/rcmp-2/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/new-rcmp-policy-on-tasers-restricts-use/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/the-murderous-rcmp/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/rcmp-mounties/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-serious-loss-of-trust-into-the-rcmp/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/the-bad-bad-rcmp-bad-conservatives-too/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/not-again-at-it-again/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/it-is-getting-worse-for-the-rcmp/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/mickey-mouse-rcmp-police-canada/
 

September 10, 2009

Speeding is not the major cause of car accidents still

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  see also http://picasaweb.google.com/anonconformer
  
“Studies talk about how distracted driving is the number-one cause of accidents,”
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We all can easily see how perverse the Justice systems are in Canada, Canada wide,  and the related judges, Politicians  now as well.  For example  the Winnipeg Police Service boasts a record-breaking $14 million in photo-radar fines for 2014,  merely the latest mark of an other  city gone mad with revenue generating traffic tickets,  and it  represents a dramatic increase of 25% over 2013, and is the equivalent of a $22 ticket issued to every man, woman and child in Winnipeg..
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Too many Canadian medical experts say the goverments do not address a major public-health problem: the overprescribing of opioids that has led to an epidemic of drug abuse and overdose deaths. Canada ranks as the world’s second-highest per capita consumer of opioids. In Ontario alone, more than 500 people die each year from opioids, exceeding motor vehicle deaths, according to the provincial coroner’s office.

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While Automobile traffic accidents are the number one cause of death for Americans, Canadians  ages 3 to 33 and while Automobile traffic accidents are the most common source of personal injury the reality is that  NOT ONLY IS SPEEDING NOT THE MAIN CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS, RATHER ROAD RAGE AND  IMPAIRED DRIVING ARE. but the  statistics also still indicate that hospital deaths now due to hospital acquired sickness, medical errors, medical negligence exceedingly surpass all of these deaths, numbers. And yet here not enough is being done about this and why is that?
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Too many people Canada wide do now often complain about still being harassed, bullied by Traffic cops and getting unnecessary traffic tickets, especialy it seems in Ontario, Alberta, Manitoba too. the Cops are no angels themselves for sure.  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/speed-related-highway-fatalities/
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Drink Alcohol and Die « The non conformer’s Canadian Weblog   Drink Alcohol and Die or Kill is fast becoming Canada’s preoccupation, main goal, slogan.. Alcohol and alcoholics the unacceptable main cause of vehicular  accidents, domestic violence, and so many other ills… DRUNK DRIVING  KILLS AT LEAST 5 TIMES MORE PERSONS OVER SPEEDING FIRSTLY  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/  
About the bad drivers.. Now Speed-related highway fatalities are down some 42 per cent in Ontario supposedly  this year, and much of that has to do with the new laws enacted last spring, Ontario Provincial Police commissioner Julian Fantino said.  But since speeding causes apparently less than 15 percent of the overall accidents, and bad cars, bad vehicles, road rage, drunk drivers, impaired drivers, talking on the phone causes the majority of the accidents still so how much did the police help now to  reduce these more important statistics? Nothing again? and why not? and why is it too often unacceptably the bad cops are never found guilty as well?  
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Alberta drug and alcohol deaths have doubled in the past decade  Edmonton Sun  CALGARY — The number of recorded drug and alcohol deaths in Alberta has more than doubled in the past decade, says the province’s chief medical examiner. From 1998 to 2008, Alberta’s population has grown by only 13% while the annual number of non-suicide deaths attributable to intoxicants has leaped to 437 from 210. Kim Borden, research officer with the chief medical examiner’s office, was at a loss to explain why the number would so far exceed the province’s population increase. “But I do know drugs and drug-related deaths are a huge problem — it’s right up there with car crash fatalities,” she said. “It’s growing every year.” , the figures for deaths caused by drugs are likely much higher because the number of autopsies are so limited.
So vehicular  speeding is not the major cause of accidents, deaths but impaired driving and yet the police like to go after speeders, over the drunk drivers still and why was that?
It is not the rapists, drunk drivers that mostly  fill the courts calendars, docks it is mostly the revenue generating traffic tickets.. if the government wants to get tough on crime, as it purports, it should go after the real criminals. Drunk, impaired drivers too.  After all speeding is not the major cause of vehicular accidents, what you did not know that yet? and the police Chief himself did not tell you? What is then the cause of major car accidents? Drunk driving, road rage, impaired driving, distracted while driving…. and what the revenue generating traffic division has not gone after all this mostly instead yet too? and why Not? The Cops becoming judge and jury, now taking the law into their own hands  even when they still say “ In most cases, our cops are the best to judge if stunt driving is really stunt driving. Or, is it simply speeding. If that is the case, they should charge accordingly or face more legal challenges.” And them the cops still being continually soft on drunk drivers is cause too many cops do  drink alcohol now too?  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/10/speeding-is-not-the-major-cause-of-car-accidents-still/
VICTORIA — Alcohol consumption has increased almost twice as much in British Columbia as it has in the rest of the country, according to a new study. Researchers at the University of Victoria Centre for Addictions Research say British Columbians’ alcohol consumption has risen 16 per cent since 1998. That’s almost twice the nine per cent increase seen in the rest of Canada. http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Drinking+rises+faster+than+rest+Canada/2322114/story.html
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and if that is true now there should be twice as much arrests for drunk driving and twice as much prison incarceration for drunk driving too? is there or why not?  
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Saskatchewan has introduced the toughest repeat drunk-driving sentencing policy in Canada, just in time for the holiday party season. As of Friday in Saskatchewan, there will be a minimum mandatory 30-day jail sentence for repeat offenders who have had one prior conviction in the past five years or two convictions in the past ten years.  Further, if a convicted drunk driver has two convictions in the past five years or three in the past ten years, the mandatory jail sentence will be 120 days.  These sentences will be more severe if the drunk driving offences have caused bodily harm or if the offender is found to be driving while disqualified. http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/12/09/12098391.html
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Yet  ex Ontario OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino called it “the Lord’s work arresting anyone except the cops for speeding, thus ” “Saving lives“. The devil disguised as an angel of light again. He said his officers will “make no apologies” for continuing to enforce a law that gives police the power to impound vehicles, suspend licences, and slap high fines against drivers before the driver has a chance to appear in court. After all it is a profitable revenue generating law too.
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False image of racing.. On Sept. 4, 2009 Ontario Justice G. J. Griffin overturned an earlier guilty verdict on a grandmother caught doing more than 50 km/h over the posted limit of 80 km/h on a stretch of Highway 7 near Kaladar. At the time, Jane Raham, 62, was overtaking a truck. Among many other opinions, Justice Griffin said Raham certainly didn’t conjure up the image of a stunt driver. Griffin’s ruling means convicting someone on excessive speeding alone under the street racing law is now considered unconstitutional.  That makes some common sense. And it doesn’t mean reckless street racers who swerve in and out of lanes endangering others won’t face the strict penalties under the street racing law. Those penalties include having your car impounded as soon as you’re charged and a $2,000 to $10,000 fine. Some may say driving more than 50 kilometres over the posted speed limit is dangerous so it should fall under the stunt driving law. But there are already sufficient fines and penalties, not to mention insurance ramifications, to deter driving at such a high speed. Impounding someone’s car at the scene in a simple case of speeding does seem somewhat onerous. Jailing them – although up to the discretion of a judge – would still be outrageous. 
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After all speeding is not the major cause of vehicular accidents, what you did not know that yet? and the police Chief himself did not tell you?
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What is then the cause of major car accidents? Drunk driving, road rage, impaired driving, distracted while driving…. and what the revenue generating traffic division has not gone after all this mostly instead yet too? and why Not?
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The Cops becoming judge and jury, now taking the law into their own hands  even when they still say ” In most cases, our cops are the best to judge if stunt driving is really stunt driving. Or, is it simply speeding. If that is the case, they should charge accordingly or face more legal challenges.”
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It’s all very simple: obey the laws.  You broke the law, accept the consequences, and if that hypocritical, absurd, extreme statement was the reality, the truth, everyone would next be in jail, all of the politicians, civil and public servants, cops firstly..
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 In regard also to the  Quebec bill to amend the Highway Safety Code and the Regulation respecting demerit points which was adopted on December 19, 2007.  The rules and measures adopted mainly concern drinking and driving, speeding, photo radars and red-light cameras, driving courses, the use of cell phones while driving, and over-speed governors for certain heavy vehicles. This legislation introduces more severe penalties for repeat offenders of impaired driving and excessive speeding. It allows for the implementation of a photo radar and red-light camera pilot project providing for three photo radar locations and the installation of red-light cameras at two intersections in each of the three pilot regions. These fifteen locations will be announced at a later date. The law also provides for the institution of mandatory driving courses for new drivers and imposes probationary driver’s licenses on all new drivers, including new drivers of 25+ years of age, as well as gradual access to demerit points for new drivers under 25. A driving course will also be mandatory for mopeds. it will henceforth be forbidden for drivers to use a hand-held cell phone while driving but the person can still do text messaging, and what an contradictory absurdity too.. The activation of over-speed governors is now mandatory for certain heavy vehicles, and the maximum speed for these vehicles must be set at 105 km/h.  The law also provides for the obligation to equip vehicles with winter tires from November 15 to April 1, greater latitude for municipalities that regulate speed limits on their territory and the possibility to carry out pilot projects, in particular for new types of vehicles. New road safety measures come into force in Québec on April 1, 2008: The use of hand-held cell phones will be banned from then on .Tougher penalties will be imposed on drivers guilty of excessive speeding  Some of the motives for the false, partial restive applications, implantation of these laws can certainly now still be questioned as well. Some of the motives for the false, partial restive applications, implantation of these laws can certainly now still be questioned as well. 
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The oppressive police enforcement of revenue generating speeding tickets enforcement is still  basically economically beneficial   to a very small, isolated segment of society, the related cops, judges, lawyers, and it is false  job security approach for them even in Alberta. While the government of Alberta fails to often still to  deal with the still much too many bad managers, bad civil and public servants abusing tax payers money, even stealing,  not doing their jobs properly, unnecessarily taking out of town trips and charging it to the job still, Alberta today  is putting 15 new sheriffs on the road in Alberta. Alberta for decades, and the police  has been falsely preoccupied with putting every person in jail in Calgary, and Edmonton, all of  Alberta for speeding,  it seems and was another main reasons they spent so much money on building new court facilities in Alberta too… this is even all being done while statistics, experiences confirms that speeding does not kill, or cause the majority of accidents, but only drunk or drug impaired drivers, bad drivers, and road rage cause the majority of the accidents the government still wants to purse now mostly  the speeders more aggressively in Alberta.  
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Police often do calls for tougher rules on others but not upon themselves. Such real hypocrites now still too. .   Do what I say over do what I do is part of the hypocrisy now existing too often too at all levels, federal, provincial, municipal, in cops as well and not just in many preacher’s lives now as well..
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Wrongful inactions, Cover ups, False denial of bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, false pastors, false priests are much too common in Canada too.
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As a citizen I too find it very dangerous when drivers do not stop at the stop signs, run through read lights, speed in residential areas, use a phone in a car and do their drive cars rather now now as well.. so we should ban now all car drivers firstly, practically now.  This is no more absurd than the New Project that hopes to slash the  actual  Edmonton residential car speed limits .  The speed limit will plunge as low as 30 km/h in some Edmonton neighborhoods next year as the city continues to wage its war on all lead-footed drivers.  A committee of council members  gave administration the green light to get to work on the pilot project. It will see the top speed hopefully lowered to between 30 km/h and 40 km/h on residential streets in three to five neighborhoods for a period of six months  for some people  the current 50 km/h top speed is too high for their neighborhood streets, It’s a mostly a quality of life issue for the people. The People want to feel safe.  A quality of life issue mostly  and not really a safety issue. It is cheaper to buy then some medical pills to help them to feel better though.   The reduced speed would not apply to major arterial roadways for now ?.
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And them the cops still being continually soft on drunk drivers is cause too many cops do  drink alcohol now too?
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Note AGAIN this important  brief introduction to road safety .. Yes  you always do have to drive safely, in control, not impaired as well and yes there are many, many different factors that now can cause a vehicular, automotive  accident, including but not limited to the actual daily road conditions, even the type of tires you have .. for  it is a fact that good tires lead to a safer drive, and so does a 4 wheel drive.  Next when you start to first drive at any day do first immediately test the road condition by coming to a planned sudden stop at a slow speed too, and see firsthand how your car reacts accordingly.. then next do use this experience to set how you will drive the rest of the day too. And no matter what car, or tires you have, or who is the driver, if you do hit a patch of black ice, due clearly to the failure of others to apply salt and gravel on the icy / snowy road,  it can be very, very hazardous now too. Give them a fine, ticket, they firstly do deserve it too.  And  hypothetical if you do not drive at all you are less likely   to have an   accident, assuming another driver does not hit you while walking.. SEE ALSO https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/research-on-real-world-behavior-crash-factors   
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The insurance industry itself too  often sleeps with legislators, cops because it wants to make loads of money by finding out reasons not to pay out as well.. they support traffic tickets even though they do not reduce the car accidents significantly cause it gives more money to the insurance firms,  this is immoral gouging of consumers too often rather too.. now what about having some honest watchdogs and legislators rather. Go after the drunk drivers, raise the price of the booze firstly..
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Even so, snow tires are still a wise choice for motorists in southern Ontario too. However, a snow tire is no surety against the repercussions of reckless or dangerous driving. And that’s the key thing.   More often than not, vehicular collisions on winter roads aren’t caused by the lack of snow tires on a vehicle. It’s (ALSO NOT ) caused by motorists who are driving too fast or not accordingly to the conditions.  This is also what Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino (FALSELY) touched upon this week when he urged the government to increase fines and demerit points for drivers speeding in bad weather conditions – whether it’s snow, heavy rain or thick fog.  Fantino’s pitch came on the heels of a weekend that saw provincial police officers respond to more than 3,000 collisions as large swaths of the province were walloped by two snowstorms. At least 40% of crashes are caused by speeding in poor conditions and not paying attention, Fantino said. (His  unofficial, unreliable statistics, remark NOW  refers to a small period of accidents and not RATHER  the  true statistics for the whole year firstly  since most accidents are caused by rage, impaired driving, poor drivers, vehciles and driver errors). The Highway Traffic Act already has provisions and penalties for speeding and careless driving. Do we really need another section in the Act that specifically addresses bad driving in poor weather?  No, we don’t.  What we do need is the strict enforcement of existing traffic laws – not just about speeding but also signaling turns and taking the proper precautions before changing lanes.”  http://www.tirereview.com/default.aspxtype=wm&module=4&id=2&state=DisplayFullText&item=13392
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“CP TORONTO – The head of the Ontario Provincial Police says drivers who crash in bad weather because of their own negligence should have to pay the bill.  Commissioner Julian Fantino will propose absolute liability legislation today under the Highway Traffic Act to hold irresponsible drivers accountable. This essentially means making drivers pay for accidents in which they were driving aggressively in poor weather, not insurance companies  Fantino says at least 40 per cent of crashes are caused because people are going too fast in poor conditions and not paying attention.  He says his proposal targets people “who could care less” about how they are driving when the roads are bad.   Fantino says his proposal mirrors laws currently on the books in almost every state in the U.S.” The fact that many of these road accidents had occurred in reality, honesty due to the cutbacks of the snow cleaning, removal  services is ommitted wrongfully.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/cops-lie-too/
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The current top speed is unacceptable to some local people, especially when the  police generally don’t start issuing tickets until a motorist is driving at least 10 km/h above the posted limit.  “We need to do something to catch people’s attention,”  But  still the upfront cost of lowering the limit on all neighborhood streets would be in the millions of dollars, yes “a staggering amount.” That would include the cost of new signs, photo enforcement equipment, municipal, court overheads.  Most if not all of the costs may be offset by increased ticket revenue. Don’t forget the freebie, the increase of profits for the insurance firms with every police traffic ticket now issued as well. These  desired residential speed reductions are not effective unless they are enforced. Edmonton Police Chief Mike Boyd recently vowed to devote all possible resources to crack down on excessive speeding in the city after officers issued an average of almost one ticket per minute in their latest 24-hour speeding blitz. Generating thousands of dollars. It is still better and cheaper to buy the complaining residents some medical pills to help them to “feel better” though.
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 THE HYPOCRITICAL CANADIAN CONSERVATIVE PARTY, GOVERNMENT LIKE TO BE KNOWN AS THE LAW AND ORDER PARTY, BUT IT ITSELF HAS NOT BOTHER TO TACKLE, TO RIGHTFULLY DEAL WITH THE BAD RCMP, TOO MANY ABUSIVE COPS IN CANADA.. WHY? https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/the-problem-of-doing-your-own-thing/
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Road rage blamed as car sails off cliff Toronto Star –   rage are believed to be the catalysts that sent a woman plunging 25 metres over a cliff and into the Humber River Saturday.

Driver facing charges after car plunges off cliff CTV.ca

Haste makes waste: cutting speed boosts drivers’ life expectancy: study  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100201/national/speeding_life_expectancy
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Most accidents are caused by drunk driving and the doctor does not mention this still?? what was that? he was paid by the liquor industry not to? or was PAID BY MONEY MAKING REVENUE COPS TO SAY SPEED ALONE MAINLY KILLS.. HOW ABSURD.. THIS Canadian doctor.. and not a Canadian Traffic engineer uses now US statistics ONLY to say speed alone kills? and he what HE THUS HAD considered also the number of drunk, impaired, road rage  drivers, that seem to increase very year as a fact for most of the deaths NO MATTER WHAT THE SPEED?  or what this did not bother him.. only the number of people who speed?  SPEED IS A MAIN FACTOR IN 5 TO 15 PERCENT OF THE ACCIDENTS.. AND WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE ACCIDENTS? THE 85 PERCENT.. it SEEMS THE DOCTORS IN UNITED KINGDOM CONTRADICT THIS CANADIAN DOCTOR IN THEIR TRAFFIC ACCIDENT STUDIES TOO.. SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?  Preposterous COOKED results.. NOW get real..
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Majority of accidents are caused by the drunk drivers firstly still. Police do not regularly, actively, year around purse them and why?  More people die from alcohol, drugs, hospital neglect, and yet more money is being paid on catching mainly the  speeders.. Police do not mind harassing still the ordinary folks with revenue generating  traffic, parking, speeding tickets though  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/we-need-more-red-light-cameras-elsewhere-too/
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 The federal justice minister is considering a new law that would allow police to conduct random breathalyzer tests on drivers, regardless of whether they suspect motorists have been drinking. http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/10/05/random-breathalyzer-drunk-driving-test-law.html
I total agree with this law on condition the same test be administered also to all working civil and public servants, senators, politicians in the house of commons as well..
If you can’t drive effectively while impaired, drunk neither can you do your job effectively  as well.
Look at this, due to the undeniable Recession, budget and tax cuts,  Municipalities across Canada have  been cutting back even on their services, snow clearing now too, which has been leading up to more car accidents, and cause the police cannot tell the truth about their employers, the police now lie, and divert the truth, saying that speeding vehicles were the cause of most of the accidents. In reality now also  speeding also still is not the main reasons for accidents but driving while impaired is.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/drivers-will-face-significant-insurance-rates/
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  And do see  also the other posts here about bad cops, alcohol and speeding.

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/third-police-vehicle-impounded-under-hypocrtical-speeding-legislation/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/drunk-driving-arrests-jump/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/a-blatant-tax-on-the-motorist-speed-cameras/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/call-it-what-you-want-but-it-is-not-about-safety/

http://thenonconformer.multiply.com/journal/item/1/No_cop_is_above_the_law

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/paradoxically-despite-all-the-dangers-warnings/

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/pretentious-incompetent-in-real-life/

 

 

April 14, 2009

GOOD NEWS Greens would replace RCMP with B.C. force

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VANCOUVER, B.C. – Dziekanski would still be alive if not for RCMP confrontation: said a pathologist.  Robert Dziekanski would likely still be alive if he hadn’t been stunned multiple times with a Taser and restrained on the floor of Vancouver’s airport by four RCMP officers, said  an expert pathologist.   Dr. John Butt, who has served as chief medical examiner in Alberta and Nova Scotia, told a public inquiry into Dziekanski’s death that the stress of the confrontation – including the use of the Taser – likely caused the Polish man’s heart to stop.  He said it was a death that could have been avoided.  “Is it fair to say that, in your opinion, had Mr. Dziekanski not been Tasered, not been restrained on the floor, that he would still be alive today?” asked Walter Kosteckyj, the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother.  “I suspect that, yes,” Butt replied during his testimony Wednesday. “Is that a strong opinion?” asked Kosteckyj.  “Yes,” replied Butt.  he said he could find no evidence that Dziekanski’s heart was damaged due to chronic alcoholism. That’s a contributing factor listed in the autopsy report.  Butt said  . “I don’t think there is alcoholic heart disease so I don’t think that it has any role (in Dziekanski’s death).” A lawyer for the federal government told the inquiry Dziekanski may have been on heart medication, however Butt said there was no indication of that in his medical records, including from a mandatory health exam required to immigrate to Canada. Butt, who worked on a report about Tasers for the B.C. Police Complaints Commission four years ago, said he was also concerned the autopsy report barely mentions the fact that Dziekanski was stunned with a Taser. Dr. Charles Lee, who conducted the autopsy, told the inquiry earlier in the week that the Taser may have contributed to Dziekanski’s death. But his report makes one mention of the weapon, only to explain marks on Dziekanski’s body. “I don’t see how one could possibly not mention the Taser in the commentary in this case,” said Butt. “Whether or not that’s going to say that it’s hugely relevant to the cause of death, it’s enormously relevant to the events in this case.”  Lee has told the inquiry that while he knew Dziekanski had been shocked by a Taser, he was not aware he was shocked multiple times.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090429/national/taser_inquiry
 

The RCMP made a mistake by waiting 14 months before correcting misinformation about a fatal incident involving four Mounties at Vancouver’s airport, a media relations officer said Wednesday at the Braidwood inquiry.  Cpl. Dale Carr told the inquiry, which is probing the death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport after he was Tasered five times at about 1:30 a.m. on Oct. 14, 2007.   that the misinformation initially put out by the RCMP could have compromised the investigation http://www.vancouversun.com/News/Mountie+admits+RCMP+conveyed+misinformation/1525511/story.html
 
This was no mistake, this was an unacceptable blatant lie  where real, serious punishment should be applied to all the RCMP personnel  involved.

The inquiry heard last month that in the first two days after Dziekanski died on Oct. 14, 2007, the RCMP’s public statements on the incident contained false information about how many officers were involved, how many times Dziekanski was stunned and what state Dziekanski was in when approached by officers.

Inquiry commissioner Thomas Braidwood ruled that Supt. Wayne Rideout could only address his decisions about what RCMP media spokespeople had told the public following Dziekanski’s death — despite a request by the lawyer for the Polish government to expand the scope of questions Rideout can be asked when he returns. Don Rosenbloom wanted to question Rideout about why the RCMP fought to withhold amateur video of the Taser incident, and why investigators failed to question the four Mounties who were deployed to handle Dziekanski when discrepancies were discovered in their statements.

The Green Party of British Columbia said Tuesday the RCMP is not accountable to the public and promised to replace the force in B.C. if the party wins the May 12 election. 
http://www.canada.com/news/national/Greens+would+replace+RCMP+with+force/1496578/story.html
  
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Green Party plan to replace RCMP disparaged by municipal leaders

Vancouver Sun –   Vancouver Sun April 14, 2009 6:01 PM Calls by the Green Party of British Columbia to replace the RCMP with an “accountable” provincial police force are misguided and unlikely to result in the desired changes, say municipal leaders whose

Greens would replace RCMP with BC force

Canada.com –  VANCOUVER — The Green Party of British Columbia said Tuesday the RCMP is not accountable to the public and promised to replace the force in BC if the party wins the May 12 election. “The deaths of Ian Bush and Robert Dziekanski are examples of recent
 

Two senior Mounties to testify at inquiry into Dziekanski’s Taser

Vancouver Sun –   Vancouver Sun April 14, 2009 7:01 PM Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski is seen in the arrivals area of the Vancouver airport in this video footage October 14, 2007. VANCOUVER – Two senior media relations Mounties will have to testify at

Mounties could face charges: BC AG

Toronto Star –  Vancouver–BC’s Attorney General said this morning that there is always the possibility of laying charges against the four RCMP officers involved in the Taser shooting and death of Robert Dziekanski. The four officers were investigated by the RCMP after

BC minister hints Mounties could face charges in Taser death

CBC.ca – ‎Apr 13, 2009‎ BC Attorney General Wally Oppal, left, tells the CBC’s Terry Milewski that prosecutors may revisit the decision of not laying charges against the four Mounties involved in the Taser-related death of Robert Dziekanski. (CBC) British Columbia’s attorney

Greens would scrap RCMP

BCLocalNews – – BC Local News The Green Party would scrap the RCMP in BC and replace it with a combination of a Metro Vancouver regional police force and a broader provincial police service. Leader Jane Sterk said the pledge stems from the need for a ..

BC Attorney General watches Taser inquiry to see if new evidence

The Canadian Press – ‎Apr 13, 2009‎  VANCOUVER, BC — RCMP officers who testified at the inquiry into the death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver’s airport could still face charges after the inquiry but so far there is nothing to suggest that might happen, BC Attorney General Wally Oppal

Mother of Tasered man wants new investigation

Canada.com –   , Canwest News Service  April 3, 2009 The mother of the Polish immigrant who was Tasered at the Vancouver International Airport demanded Thursday that the BC government appoint a special prosecutor to investigate her son’s death.

Replace RCMP with provincial police, say Greens

TheTyee.ca –  By Colleen Kimmett April 14, 2009 05:56 pm The Green Party of BC announced today that if elected it would create a provincial police force to replace the RCMP in British Columbia. “The RCMP have demonstrated they are not accountable to the public,

Charges may still be laid in Taser death of Dziekanski

The Province –   The Province April 14, 2009 Comments (14) Criminal charges may still be laid against the four RCMP officers involved in the Tasering death of a Polish immigrant. The December decision by Crown prosecutors not to lay charges against the

Officers may be charged in Dziekanski death

Canada.com –  The four RCMP officers who Tasered a Polish immigrant at the Vancouver International Airport may face charges in his death, BC’s Attorney General told CBC News Monday. Robert Dziekanski died in October 2007 after being hit five times by a Taser,

Police wince at media spotlight as they push for more surveillance

Winnipeg Free Press – ‎Apr 13, 2009‎ VANCOUVER, BC – Police routinely call the media together for a show-and-tell display of video or pictures of the latest brazen criminal act, but lately, a similar spotlight has been shining on police and the picture isn’t pretty.

Dziekanski Case Could Be Revisited for Charges

Opinion250 News –  By 250 News Prince George, BC- As the Braidwood Inquiry into the death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski prepares to resume, BC’s Attorney General has been quoted as saying the case may be revisted. The Crown had initially decided there would be no

Boss not aware of protocol violation: Taser inquiry

Ottawa Citizen –    Vancouver Province April 14, 2009 7:29 PM Polish immigrant, Robert Dziekanski raised his hands above his head as a gesture of defiance rather than surrender, said the first RCMP officer testify at the Taser inquiry.

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“The deaths of Ian Bush and Robert Dziekanski are examples of recent failures to provide helpful enforcement services to the people of B.C.,” Green party Leader Jane Sterk said in a news release. Bush, 22, died in police custody in July 2005 from a gunshot wound to the head after a fight with an officer.  The mill worker was arrested after being found with an open beer outside a hockey game in Houston, B.C.   Dziekanski, 40, died after being hit five times with a Taser by an RCMP officer at the Vancouver International Airport in October 2007. The details of the Polish immigrant’s death, which was captured on camera by a bystander, are currently being investigated by an inquiry.  “The Green party would end the RCMP E Division contract and replace the RCMP with a new B.C. police service. The B.C. police service would no longer make use of Taser electric weapons, and would be subject to civilian oversight under the auspices of an independent provincial police commissioner,” she added.

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Sterk also said the provincial government should cancel plans for a new RCMP headquarters.

 

 

 

 

 
Most reasonable and reasoning people have seen the folly of speed cameras for decades now too.    
  

March 30, 2009

the Liberals are now ahead in Canada..

 

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) – Canada’s Liberal Party, which has been climbing in recent opinion polls, is also regaining its financial footing and the political unity it needs to fight a new election, leader Michael Ignatieff said on Thursday. But Ignatieff added he was still in no rush to force an election so soon after last October’s vote, and told party activists they still had hard work to do to regain the Liberals’ standing as a “national institution” that could elect candidates in all parts of the country.. “We have a unified party. We have a party out of debt. And we have a party basically ready to fight an election,” he told reporters in Vancouver at the start of the Liberal’s Party national convention.

  April 8, 2009  The political survey shows that the Liberals lead the Conservatives nationally, 34 per cent to 32 per cent, after trailing the Tories last month, 35 to 31. The most startling results are in Ontario, where the Liberals have jumped eight points to 45 per cent of decided voters, while the Tories have dropped to 32 per cent, from 41 per cent. While the national numbers are a virtual tie – and within the margin of error –  “the trend line since the election has been bad news for the Conservatives and good news for the Liberals.” The Conservatives continue to lag in Quebec, with 15 per cent support compared to 29 per cent for the Liberals and 41 per cent for the Bloc Québécois. The Tories continue to dominate the West, with 46 per cent, compared to the Liberals at 24 and the NDP at 19. .. it appears as though Mr. Harper continues to be punished for attacking the Bloc during the debate over the creation of a Liberal/NDP coalition, backed by the BQ.

Ontarians are the gloomiest of all Canadians, with 86 per cent saying the economy is in decline, compared to 77 per cent in Quebec and 79 per cent in the Prairies. Overall, 82 per cent of Canadians say the economy will turn down. Consumers are also battening down the hatches, with 64 per cent of Canadians saying they are spending less these days, compared to 78 per cent of Americans who say the same thing.

 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090408.wpoll08/BNStory/politics/home

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MARCH 2009 Canada opposition Liberals take slight lead – poll  Reuters – The Liberals have continually attacked Prime Minister Stephen Harper for not doing enough to tackle the economic crisis. The survey showed that 41 percent Canada’s opposition Liberals have gained a slight lead in popular support over the ruling Conservatives amid increasing unhappiness over how the government is tackling the economic crisis, according to a poll published on Monday,.The Leger Marketing poll for the French-language Le Devoir newspaper put the Liberals, led by Michael Ignatieff, at 35 percent popular support, compared with 34 percent for the Conservatives, who won a strengthened minority in the general election held last October. The survey showed that 41 percent of Canadians said Ignatieff had the best ideas for fixing the economy, compared with just 32 percent for Harper.”There is no good news at all in this poll for the Conservatives. A government always has difficulties during an economic crisis and this is confirmed (by the survey),” Leger pollster Jean-Marc Leger told Le Devoir.Most polls since the election have put the Conservatives ahead, although the gap has narrowed since Ignatieff took over from previous leader Stephane Dion in December. 01pmtaser5 Almost half of those polled by Leger — 48 percent — said they were unhappy or very unhappy with what Harper had done so far to mitigate the effects of the recession. Only 40 percent said they were happy or very happy.The Leger poll of 1,508 adults was carried out between March 18 and 23  WE NEED NO MORE IMMIGRANTS KILLED TOO… ed-82Now watch next a Conservative biassed media come with a different poll..0media 

 

March 28, 2009

RCMP likely needs to be totally disbanded

 

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  If what we have been told about the fatal shooting of a Vancouver man by a female police officer is true, it appears front-line cops have learned little from the Robert Dziekanski incident at Vancouver International Airport in 2007. It is ironic this happened just days before the Braidwood inquiry resumed with testimony from the RCMP officer in charge the night Dziekanski died. There are striking similarities to both incidents.   In both cases, we have a witness who disputes the official police version of what happened. And in both cases, a witness apparently caught the incident on camera. Adam Smolcic claims police seized the cellphone he used to record the fatal shooting. He also alleges that police deleted the video capture. In the Dziekanski incident, Paul Pritchard also had his video camera seized by police, and only got it back after he threatened a lawsuit. (Police say they needed to hang onto it until all other evidence they were looking for was in their possession.) Smolcic is making some pretty serious allegations: that police shot and killed someone who could have been subdued with pepper spray or a baton, and that police then tried to cover their backsides by tampering with evidence. Abbotsford Police have now been tasked with investigating the shooting. That investigation should also delve into Smolcic’s allegations. Smolcic is reported to be a marijuana activist. In the past, the word of a pot advocate wouldn’t have counted for much when weighed against the word of a police officer. Sadly, it may be easier for the public to believe Smolcic than the police. That’s how badly the Dziekanski incident has shaken the public’s trust in the police. http://www2.canada.com/surreynow/news/viewpoint/story.html?id=64e57161-c603-4208-b83e-b712c4ac1558
 
  
DIRTY RCMP AND their  lawyers still misrepresenting Tasered Dziekanski ..
  
“VANCOUVER — A neighbour of the Polish immigrant who was Tasered at the Vancouver International Airport accused lawyers at the inquiry investigating his death of trying to “make a bad person out of him.”Iwona Kosowska, who lived in the same apartment building as Robert Dziekanski before he left for Canada in October 2007, clashed numerous times with lawyers representing the RCMP officers involved in his Tasering when they suggested Dziekanski was an alcoholic or prone to violence. “You’re trying to make a bad person out of him which means you can kill a bad person because he was not good,” Kosowska said via video link from Poland. “You guys made a mistake and now you’re trying to turn everything around.” Kosowska said her neighbour was terrified of flying and didn’t sleep for 48 hours before flying to Canada to see his mother who lives in Kamloops. B.C. The inquiry, headed by retired judge Thomas Braidwood, previously heard that Dziekanski became agitated after spending more than 24 hours travelling and 10 hours stranded at the airport when he and his mother failed to meet up. He died after being hit five times with a Taser by one of the four RCMP officers called to the scene, while a bystander filmed the encounter with his cellphone.  Through an interpreter, Kosowska accused the lawyers of trying to attack Dziekanski’s character, describing him as a friendly neighbour who was interested in geography — “his great passion” — and was looking forward to starting a new life in Canada with his mother. Kosowska, who lives in the southern Polish city of Gliwice, had known Dziekanski for more than 20 years. She threatened to stop answering questions if they continued to portray him as a violent alcoholic. Kosowska defended her friend after watching the video of his death, saying that he was only “asking for help.” “I’m trying to tell you . . . he is from a foreign country without any knowledge of the language, without having a cigarette on him, without having water to drink and nobody paid any attention to him, they didn’t help him. So what kind of reaction are you expecting?” she asked. Due to a growing gap between the RCMP version of events and video evidence, the Polish-Canadian community is demanding that a “special independent prosecutor” be appointed to investigate Dziekanski’s death. The inquiry heard last week that the lead Mountie, Cpl. Benjamin (Monty) Robinson, admitted he asked to “change” his evidence after viewing the bystander’s video of the death. In his initial report, Robinson claimed 12 times that the Polish immigrant swung a stapler at the officers, the inquiry heard. This report, along with those of his fellow officers, was proved wrong by the video of Dziekanski’s death. “I was mistaken but I was telling the truth. I sort of blended the whole interaction with him,” Robinson told the inquiry last week. None of the four Mounties involved in Dziekanski’s death have been charged. Robinson also told the inquiry that the Polish immigrant “didn’t give us the opportunity” to warn him before he was Tasered, as per RCMP policy. “It wasn’t tactically possible,” Robinson said last week. Robinson said that Dziekanski grabbed a stapler and threatened the officers. When the man took a step toward police, Robinson told his colleague to fire a Taser. “I thought he was going to hit me with the stapler,” Robinson said. When asked why he told another officer to deploy his Taser less than 30 seconds after the officers arrived at the scene, Robinson again cited time constraints. ” http://www.montrealgazette.com/Health/Dziekanski+sleep+deprived+terrified+before+Tasering+Neighbour/1445354/story.html
  
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When William Elliott was appointed RCMP commissioner in 2007, the challenges ahead were monumental.   It fell to Elliott, a career civil servant, to rebuild the tattered remains of our once-proud national police force, and restore public trust in an institution that had badly fallen into disrepute. The 24,000-member force was “horribly broken,” according to an independent review at the time. Less than two years later, the force is even worse off, and Elliott has failed to deliver. He needs to step aside –or be fired–so someone more effective and trustworthy can again try to restore accountability, transparency and integrity to our damaged Mounties. Elliott has proven he’s as much out of touch as was his predecessor, Giuliano Zaccardelli. Canadians are rightly outraged by the persistent culture of arrogance, overzealous policing and coverups that have for too long been the norm.

-An independent body of civilians is needed to investigate homicides involving police. It’s obvious that police investigating themselves isn’t working. There have been too many coverups, and the public has lost trust.

-A new commissioner is needed. Elliott has to go. He has lost credibility and can no longer lead this troubled organization back to health.

The iconic tradition of Canada’s Mounties dates back to May 23, 1873. The red serge of their uniforms has come to represent honour, order and a proud past. But red is also the colour of shame. Without drastic change, that will be the sad legacy of this once meaningful organization.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Broken+RCMP+needs+overhaul/1439030/story.html
 
I agree, but I think it more likely needs to be totally disbanded, for  it is broken beyond repair. 
  
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Robert Dziekanski weilds a folding table at the Vancouver International Airport Oct. 14, 2007 in this screen grab during a Taser incident at Vancouver International Airport that killed him. The Polish immigrant's neighbour testifed Monday he was "terrified" of flying and hadn't slept before his flight.

 

Dziekanski nervous, hadn’t slept before boarding plane to Cda The Canadian Press –  VANCOUVER, BC — Robert Dziekanski was nervous about flying and hadn’t slept for two days before setting off on his long journey to Canada, one of his neighbours in Poland told a public inquiry Monday. And the neighbour angrily admonished lawyers for  
 

RCMP lawyers misrepresenting Tasered immigrant: Friend The Gazette (Montreal) –   , Vancouver Province March 30, 2009 8:37 PM Robert Dziekanski weilds a folding table at the Vancouver International Airport Oct. 14, 2007 in this screen grab during a Taser incident at Vancouver International Airport that killed him.

 

Taser inquiry sees RCMP officers’ lawyers clash with Polish woman Canada.com –  Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski is seen in the arrivals area of the Vancouver airport in this video footage October 14, 2007. VANCOUVER — A Polish neighbour of Robert Dziekanski clashed numerous times with two lawyers representing RCMP officers

 

Polish group asks for probe of RCMP Canada.com –  The Polish-Canadian community is demanding that a “special independent prosecutor” be appointed to investigate the Tasering of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver airport after the inquiry into his death revealed a growing gap between the RCMP version

 

Neighbour says Dziekanski Nervous Before Trip 580 CFRA Radio –  One of Robert Dziekanski’s neighbours in Poland told a Public Inquiry that the man was nervous about flying. Iwona Kosowska added Dziekanski hadn’t slept for two days before departing on his trip to Ottawa. But Kosowaska angrily admonished lawyers for

 

Mountie didn’t admit to 5 shots Canada.com –  By GERRY BELLETT, Canwest News ServiceMarch 27, 2009 A paramedic called to the Vancouver International Airport after Robert Dziekanski became unconscious said the lead RCMP officer told him the Polish immigrant was tasered only once.

 

Canadians in Warsaw fearful after taser death Globe and Mail –  VANCOUVER — The Canadian embassy in Warsaw was so concerned about a backlash from outraged Poles after Robert Dziekanski’s 2007 death in a confrontation with four Mounties it warned staff about being identified on the streets as Canadians,

 

Canadian diplomats feared for safety in Poland News1130 –  VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – Canadian diplomats feared for their safety in Poland, according to a new document that shows they felt a backlash because of the Robert Dziekanski incident. The Canadian embassy in the Polish capital was so worried about a

 

Braidwood Inquiry: Neighbour of Robert Dziekanski defends News1130 – VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – A visibly angry and frustrated friend of Robert Dziekanski is testifying via an Internet video feed from Poland at the Braidwood Inquiry. Iwona Kosowska, who lived in the same apartment building as Dziekanski in Gliwice, Poland,

 

Be very afraid Globe and Mail –  Toronto — Sheila White suggests that if the amateur video of Robert Dziekanski’s tasering did not exist, Mr. Dziekanski would have been the “villain” and the real truth would never have been known. She calls this a “scary thought” (Don’t Even Go There

 

Shocked, repeatedly Ottawa Citizen –  When police Taser someone, they are administering force — physically interfering with the suspect’s body. Sometimes this is what police have to do, and they have a variety of instruments with which to do it — not just a Taser but, depending on the

 

Mounties collective memory lapse gves impression of coverup Prince George Citizen – At what point do errors and inaccuracies become lies and criminal behaviour? That is the question Canadians should be asking the RCMP and our politicians for their investigation of the Robert Dziekanski homicide. If four highly trained officers have

 

Polish neighbour defends Dziekanski at inquiry The Province – Emotions ran high at the Braidwood inquiry Monday as a friend and neighbour of Robert Dziekanski — testifying by videolink from Poland — accused lawyers of trying to discredit him to justify the RCMP handling of the case. Iwona Kosowska, who said she

  

Dziekanski hadn’t slept for two days before boarding plane to Cda CFTKTV –  VANCOUVER, BC – One of Robert Dziekanski’s neighbours in Poland says the man was nervous about flying and hadn’t slept for two days before boarding a plane to Vancouver. Dziekanski had been travelling for more than a day and was in Vancouver’s airport

– It is still now totally unacceptable , despicable that the RCMP abuses the citizens, next  they do  get full pay while they are suspended during an investigations, and on top of that their lawyers are also now all paid for at the tax payers expenses.. but still the majority of taxpayers do not  have such luxury , benefits now as well. The RCMP likely needs to be totally disbanded

– On top of all this the RCMP  Dziekanski affair has now also given world wide a real bad name to Canada, it has made Canada now a world wide laughing stock of Police brutality, cover-ups, injustices, police lies..

 

 

In busy Toronto, police say  Drunk driving and careless turning are the main culprits for serious accidents in intersections and red light cameras are not used because of the fear of public backlash..  So why are Calgary drivers such chronic lead-foots? or is the question why is it the Calgary city fathers are so money hungry? The  police services are  implementing the   speed cameras as a way of adding to their coffers.. ‘Speed on green’ cameras linked to rear-end crashes.  Arizona cities, one of the first cities to bring in such technology says the cameras decrease speeding and dangerous collisions, but can increase the number of rear-end crashes. But of course the money hungry police of Calgary had denied this.
 
ANOTHER CASH GRAB.. The Calgary Parking Authority is expanding its hold on the inner city by starting to charge for parking on more than 20 blocks of the Beltline.
 
CALGARY AND EDMONTON POLICE ISSUE MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS OVER ANY OTHER CITIES  IN CANADA AND  FOR DECADES NOW TOO!
 
Anyone who thinks the cops here are being honest, serving the public is a fool..
 
  No  matter how that dirty RCMP weasel spins the facts, tries to weasel out of the truth, the RCMP was clearly wrong on many counts in the Taser death of a polish immigrant at the Vancouver airport.. they were uncompassionate, inconsiderate, used more restraining force than was necessary, and they next also clearly lied to cover-up their own immoral acts, and many times as well, They slander a good man in the process as well.. and so none of this was, is acceptable or forgivable.. none  of it.  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/the-mickey-mouse-rcmp-in-canada
 
Now the RCMP is so ready to monitor others it firstly cannot monitor itself.. how absurd and hypocritical still too
 

Most reasonable and reasoning people have seen the folly of speed cameras for decades now too.    
 
Here is what I found amazing and worth while examining now  in much more detail.. insurance companies in Canada do not mind gouging Canadian consumers in their greed to make more profits..  and we all know that accumulating speeding , traffic infractions, will cause your car insurance costs to go up significantly…   and yet here is what I find surprising, neither the insurance companies, the provincial government, nor the federal government, the police have real, valid detailed statistics on the causes of traffic accidents: such as how many were caused my alcoholic drivers, how many were caused by speeding, how many were caused by poor road conditions, lousy snow clearing as well, etc not even in Ontario, Alberta, Quebec, BC as well.. …. so what do the insurance companies do with all the extra money they collect, certainly they of all persons should have firstly the best statistics on traffic accidents now in the first place, or how do they determine their rates??? Even Canada’s police chiefs have to rely on accident statistics from other countries, such as Australia, Great Britain, the US..
  

March 27, 2009

Ontario judge orders website to reveal identity – Hate, Libel, slander on the web

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An Ontario Superior Court judge has ordered a pair of website owners to turn over identifying information about eight people being accused of defamation after posting anonymous comments. Kershman cited a 2004 case that said privacy cannot be used to protect a person from the application of civil or criminal liability, and that privacy rights must be balanced against the rights of other interests and the public interest. He also cited a 2008 child pornography case, in which a judge ruled that a person’s name, address and the name of their spouse are not information that one would expect to keep private from the state under such circumstances.University of Ottawa law professor Michael Geist,   said the court must ensure that a proper balance is struck between the rights of a plaintiff and the privacy and free speech rights of an anonymous poster. In order to do that, it must set a high bar for plaintiffs to meet in order to justify overriding the poster’s rights. Warman is in the process of suing the Fourniers, alleging they “falsely and maliciously published and circulated” information on the site that claimed Warman had posted hateful, racist words. The allegations have not been proven in court.   “In my view, the defendants are under an obligation to disclose all documents in their power and control,” Justice Stanley Kershman said in a ruling delivered Monday to defendants Connie Wilkins-Fournier and Mark Fournier of Kingston, Ont., who run the website Free Dominion.Kershman also ordered the couple to pay $5,000 in costs to the plaintiff in the case, Ottawa human rights lawyer Richard Warman, described by Kershman as an “anti-hate speech advocate.”   Warman had requested, for use in a court action, access to documents that would assist in identifying the anonymous posters and their locations, such as: Email addresses and all personal information. The IP addresses of their computers. Documents concerning the establishment and operation of the website, such as hosting agreements, billing information, and website registrant names.  The Fourniers had argued that people using the message boards do so with the expectation of anonymity and may make statements or provide information that they wouldn’t normally with family, friends or co-workers.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/03/25/tech-090325-anonymous-posters.html
 
 
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It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.  
 
 
Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant  guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest
 
We ALSO do  still need to understand, define what abuse and what hate is, and an abuse is to deny a person’s legal, human rights, and hate is the clear opposite of love, meaning an unloving act.. Hate and  Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse in reality too.  And both hate and verbal, physical abuses are  all unacceptable at all times too no matter who you are or who you think you are too. .
 
but honestly critiquing  NOW certain individuals for their own unacceptable bad act is not always HATE. .
 
It is a false statement that if one makes any negative statement about Jews, Muslims, Arabs, white people, natives , etc., that one is  a racist or promoting hatred.. one can be  merely exercising one’s appropriate right of free speech, thought..
 
Now I had witnessed a Person committing immoral, illegal acts many times and when I rightfully reported it next to to the proper authorities, the clearly  guilty  person next  had distorted the truths and lying had said I was promoting hatred towards him and his family, which clearly now was not so. I was a witness of the immoral acts still, unacceptable wrong doings. 
 
Also I do not believe that everyone sets out to be a deliberate racist, it seems to be often merely a poorly thought out stupid mistake for 70 percent of the persons who do it, and many people once they realize what they have done next do even admit their errors and stop it, unfortunately there are the remaining few hate mongers who still do get carried away with their hatred, sins, who need to be incarcerated for their crimes so they can stop and learn not to do it..
 
 
(Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Cops too  seem to have it too easy in Canada, they do what they want, they abuse citizens and tend to get away with it too. Too many COPS, persons distort  the LAW. it’s meaning still too. 
 
“about the liars, thieves, ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “
 
THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
 
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
 
First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and  detail  proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.
 
Next God also is now fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..
 
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
 
WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.
 
APPROPRIATE  PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST
  
FOR A GOOD NAME IS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN ANY AMOUNT OF SILVER OR GOLD AND A TARNISHED ONE IS WORTHLESS.  
 

This too is not a hate message – “I would like to recommend an excellent book by Stephen Sizer, entitled ’Christian Zionism, Road Map To Armageddon?, which I believe, will shed a great deal of light on the topic of Christian Zionism. Many millions have been bamboozled and deceived by this cultish movement, and few will ever utter a word against the State of Israel as a result. In the book ’Christian Zionism: Road Map To Armageddon’ Stephen Sizer goes into great detail in exposing the historical roots of Christian Zionism. Mr Sizer talks about things such as the Balfour declaration, CI Scofield and the Scofield Bible, and the influence that it has had in the world. The names of the people who have been associated with this cultish teaching are very well known, people such as John Darby, D.L Moody, Hal Lindsey,  and Pat Robertson, just to name a few. ” JERUSALEM – Israel’s military on Thursday ordered a criminal inquiry into its own soldiers’ reports that some troops killed Palestinian civilians, including children, during the Gaza war by hastily opening fire, confident that relaxed rules of engagement would protect them.Their accounts, published in a military institute’s newsletter, echo Palestinian allegations and feed into human-rights groups’ contention that Israel violated the laws of war. Soldiers also reported the wanton destruction of civilian property.   READ THE FULL MSNBC ARTICLE HERE

Clearly just  because something someone writes offends someone else does not mean firstly that it is even “hate”, immediately prosecutable by law, the courts or the Human Rights Commission. There is still a separation between appropriate speech and inappropriate speech, a separation between freedom of speech, expressing one’s views, opinions and the delivered, deliberate conscious propagation of hatred towards a specific group or person.

OTTAWA — A ruling from a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member says a controversial law banning Internet hate messages is unconstitutional because it violates free speech protections. Athanasios Hadjis ruled Wednesday that section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act violates Charter protections. While this decision doesn’t throw out the law – that’s something for the courts – it did let accused hatemonger Marc Lemire off the hook, because Hadjis refused to penalize him or order him to stop posting his messages on the net. on his site.   Lemire was accused of posting anti-Semitic and anti-gay material on web sites in a complaint brought by Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman. Warman has become an Internet watchdog for such material and the main section 13 complainant before the tribunal. He had asked for a cease-and-desist order against Lemire and a $7,500 fine. Canadian Jewish Congress was quick to call for an appeal of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member   Hadjis ruling. “We strongly disagree with his decision not to impose a cease-and-desist order,” said Joel Richler, an honorary legal counsel to the congress.  The congress said other tribunal members have found the section to be constitutional and the courts should be asked to clarify the matter.

The Ruling from a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member says a controversial law banning Internet hate messages is unconstitutional because it violates free speech protections. Refrence the human rights act section 13.1, which says it is a violation to disseminate material on the Internet that is “likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt”  If the example is followed by other tribunal members, it could mean an end to section 13 cases.  In a special report issued in June, the commission asked Parliament to change the law to eliminate the fines and provide a clear, legal definition of what constitutes prohibited hatred. The section has been controversial, with some claiming it spreads too wide a net. The Supreme Court of Canada has said legal action should be reserved only for the most extreme forms of hate.   None of this in any way affects the hate-speech provisions of the Canadian Criminal Code which is completely different legislation, with higher standards of proof and evidence .  Hate accusations can be also  filed with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If it finds them valid, they are then taken before the tribunal, which can order people to stop posting material on the web or impose fines of up to $10,000. 

 

http://soulrefuge.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-book-that-exposed-the-cultish-roots-of-christian-zionism/

http://soulrefuge.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/must-a-jewish-person-believe-that-jesus-is-the-messiah-to-go-to-heaven/ 

 

March 25, 2009

Liars- Mounties ‘misleading everyone’

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You know I get a kick out of those lying spin  doctors, from police officers, bad cops, union representatives, police lovers  who say that bad people, bad cops and their bad supervisors too they  can always be rehabilitated, retrained.. The hypocrtical police tend not to believe that bad cons can be helped only bad cops… and how many millions of them now has this happened to them.. almost none.. a bad apple tends to get worse.. The RCMP maximum 10 days punishment is always absurd, permanent dismissal is what is always needed with the bad cops and their clearly bad superiors who had managed and hired them too..http://www2.canada.com/burnabynow/news/community/story.html?id=8d1d3edf-7582-4031-93f0-d6efddf13a8d

Now why are the clearly foolish Canadian  justice ministers, cops, so foolish still  that they do now even think that they can turn the clock backwards and continue again doing the very same bad things now that they all have even been exposed for what they realy are world wide even.. they are bad people who abuse citizens and obstruct justice and do need to be put into prison themselves. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/25147/

It would be easy to form the impression that the four Richmond RCMP officers involved were the only ones to blame for the tragedy at Vancouver International Airport on Oct. 14, 2007.But as the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother has astutely observed, that’s only because the RCMP’s spectacularly bad PR has stolen the spotlight. RCMP brass and the federal government could have pre-empted a damning report from Thomas Braidwood by stepping up with a genuine mea culpa and an announcement that a major overhaul of the RCMP and CBSA was already in the works. That hasn’t happened. Now, given how much has been exposed in this inquiry, it is hard to believe a few people won’t be held to account.

that includes the and justice ministers, solicitor generals at the federal and provincial levels now too and who is going to hold them all accountable? not the bad PM for sure. 

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Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..

Alberta should not renew RCMP contract

“And the RCMP has changed, for the worse. At the headquarters level there hasn’t been a good report in years. Various inquiries have found incompetence, poor training, poor discipline, poor co-ordination and communication, and outright dishonesty. Those inquiries have used phrases like “horribly broken,” “often flawed,” “not justified” and so on.

News reports made it clear that RCMP investigations into embarrassing and fatal actions of their own members were inadequate to the point of being a coverup. At the field level there were many reports of highly dubious shootings by RCMP members, and criminal investigations into the conduct of members when off duty. Former RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli resigned in disgrace after giving conflicting statements to a Parliamentary committee. ” http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/Alberta+should+renew+RCMP+contract/3498184/story.html?cid=megadrop_story 

This is not a new revelation I myself now had detailed to you about 25 years ago my own experience in Canmore Alberta with the perverse RCMP where I got 2 speeding tickets on the same spot years apart and how the RCMP next also had covered up for it’s pervere buddies, and I had also entered my complaint about their perverse acts into the Canmore Queens court record as well now.

 

 
  One of the best way that I have discovered to get to know what a cop  is really like, is work with him  just for one whole day,.. and   what   you now saw next.. lying, bullying, control freak..
 

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/no-rcmp-alcoholics-it-seems/

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The actual needless number of times the arriving polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski  was shocked by the RCMP in the Vancouver Airport  , as well as the actual speed with which the Taser was deployed, have also been issues at the ongoing BC RCMP -Robert Dziekanski   inquiry, along with the clearly VERY POOR  manner in which next the stunned Robert Dziekanski  was monitored and treated by the RCMP after his collapse. 
  

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The Braidwood Inquiry into the Taser-related death of Robert Dziekanski has been blown up and left in ruins by the revelation a key RCMP e-mail was withheld from the commission. After months of outrage about the conduct of the four Mounties who responded to Vancouver Airport Oct. 14, 2007, who can believe that at the last minute, a federal lawyer would produce what many would consider a smoking gun — an e-mail saying the officers decided to use the Taser before confronting the Polish immigrant? If true, the Nov. 5, 2007, e-mail titled “Media strategy — release of the YVR video,” from RCMP Chief Supt. Dick Bent to assistant commissioner Al McIntyre, establishes the four have been lying through their teeth. This critical document suggests the four officers committed perjury and that senior officers sat silent while they did so. Worse, it seems there are many other documents that have not been turned over that may be relevant. This e-mail was one of 260 documents on a CD sent by the RCMP to the justice department last April, yet the federal lawyers didn’t open the CD until last week.. Commissioner William Elliott’s carefully parsed press release was equally unbelievable: “This was simply an oversight. Unfortunately in an exercise of this magnitude, such an oversight can occur.” Bollocks. No one but a moron overlooks the import of an e-mail like this. The officers deny the explosive content is true and Roberts says Bent was wrong in what he said. But their protestations ring hollow after almost 18 months of bluster and denial. So does Elliott’s threadbare these-things-happen excuse. The situation is as bad as the most virulent critics of the Mounties feared. This is no longer about four officers who made mistakes in judgment: It’s about an organization that thinks it is above the law.  .It is time to thank commissioner Braidwood for his excellent work in bringing these unsettling facts to light and it’s time to appoint a special prosecutor.  The B.C. Law Society should also begin an investigation into the conduct of Roberts and any other federal lawyer involved in this staggering lack of disclosure. That was not an “oversight.” It was professional incompetence or a cover-up. http://www.vancouversun.com/Mounties+Tasering+should+face+prosecution/1716660/story.html
RCMP management clearly lied, also to blame.. Mounties read through 1,000 internal e-mails preparing for inquiry
 
“RCMP’s communication strategy ultimately failed. The force did not publicly correct inaccuracies or defend its role in the case, fearing that information might alter witnesses’ recollection of events. Police also believed, the report said, that public opinion would switch to supporting the RCMP after all the facts were known. We found neither argument valid,” the report said. “For deeply rooted systemic reasons and long-held views regarding the importance of due process, the RCMP’s management of issues and communications were lacking and caused many of the problems the organization was trying to avoid.”We therefore recommend that clear, precise guidelines about what can be released, and at what point in the investigation, be developed, and that these guidelines be based on a liberal view of releasing information.” http://www.canada.com/News/Mounties+read+through+internal+mails+preparing+inquiry/1714755/story.html

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VANCOUVER, B.C. – Dziekanski would still be alive if not for RCMP confrontation: said a pathologist.  Robert Dziekanski would likely still be alive if he hadn’t been stunned multiple times with a Taser and restrained on the floor of Vancouver’s airport by four RCMP officers, said  an expert pathologist.   Dr. John Butt, who has served as chief medical examiner in Alberta and Nova Scotia, told a public inquiry into Dziekanski’s death that the stress of the confrontation – including the use of the Taser – likely caused the Polish man’s heart to stop.  He said it was a death that could have been avoided.  “Is it fair to say that, in your opinion, had Mr. Dziekanski not been Tasered, not been restrained on the floor, that he would still be alive today?” asked Walter Kosteckyj, the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother.  “I suspect that, yes,” Butt replied during his testimony Wednesday. “Is that a strong opinion?” asked Kosteckyj.  “Yes,” replied Butt.  he said he could find no evidence that Dziekanski’s heart was damaged due to chronic alcoholism. That’s a contributing factor listed in the autopsy report.  Butt said  . “I don’t think there is alcoholic heart disease so I don’t think that it has any role (in Dziekanski’s death).” A lawyer for the federal government told the inquiry Dziekanski may have been on heart medication, however Butt said there was no indication of that in his medical records, including from a mandatory health exam required to immigrate to Canada. Butt, who worked on a report about Tasers for the B.C. Police Complaints Commission four years ago, said he was also concerned the autopsy report barely mentions the fact that Dziekanski was stunned with a Taser. Dr. Charles Lee, who conducted the autopsy, told the inquiry earlier in the week that the Taser may have contributed to Dziekanski’s death. But his report makes one mention of the weapon, only to explain marks on Dziekanski’s body. “I don’t see how one could possibly not mention the Taser in the commentary in this case,” said Butt. “Whether or not that’s going to say that it’s hugely relevant to the cause of death, it’s enormously relevant to the events in this case.”  Lee has told the inquiry that while he knew Dziekanski had been shocked by a Taser, he was not aware he was shocked multiple times.
 
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Mounties accused of ‘cooking up’ story Toronto Star – ‎  VANCOUVER–Four Mounties “collaborated to fabricate” their story to justify their conduct when Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski died while in their custody, a lawyer told a public inquiry yesterday. The lawyer added that inadequate medical procedures by the Mounties after Dziekanski, 41, received five Taser jolts were “a contributing factor” in his death.  In wrapping up questioning of Cpl. Benjamin “Monty” Robinson – who was in charge when Dziekanski died at the Vancouver airport Oct. 14, 2007 – Rosenbloom posited the Mounties were “fast at work at the scene, cooking up the story” and continued to collaborate on it at the detachment.Robinson made six modifications to earlier facts in a March 2 letter from his lawyer, almost six weeks after the inquiry began in January. For example, he changed earlier statements Dziekanski was “swinging” a stapler at the Mounties in a threatening manner and had been unresponsive to their commands.Walter Kosteckyj, lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother, Zofia Cisowski, called the officers’ actions that night “a training film for how not to handle a situation from beginning to end.”  Robinson insisted he gave instructions to Dziekanski to calm down and place his hands on an airport counter in the arrivals area, adding hand gestures to make his points. “Calm down, put your hands on the counter,” he said he told the Polish immigrant. Noted Rosenbloom: “You know that was meaningless in terms of a man without English?” “Yes,” replied Robinson Although testimony from the Mounties involved ended yesterday, there are still 30 to 40 witnesses to appear at the commission.  

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 Robert Dziekanski was lying dead on the floor of Vancouver’s airport, his entire face blue, 90 seconds after RCMP officers who shocked him with a Taser say he was alive and breathing, a paramedic told a public inquiry Thursday.– A paramedic called to the Vancouver International Airport after Robert Dziekanski went unconscious said the lead RCMP officer told him the Polish immigrant was Tasered only once. Allan Maciak told the Braidwood inquiry, which is investigating Mr. Dziekanski’s October 2007 death, that RCMP Cpl. Monty Robinson didn’t tell him that the Polish immigrant had been hit by a Taser five times. Mr. Maciak said Thursday he could clearly see that Mr. Dziekanski had turned blue as he lay on the floor surrounded by RCMP officers and Richmond firefighters. The Polish immigrant was dead when he arrived at the scene, Mr. Maciak said. http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1431665 

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Mounties ‘misleading everyone’: Polish group Ottawa Citizen – VANCOUVER — The Polish-Canadian community is demanding that a “special independent prosecutor” be appointed to investigate the Tasering of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver airport after the inquiry into his death revealed a growing gap between the RCMP version of events and video evidence.RCMP Cpl. Benjamin (Monty) Robinson, the officer in charge at the time and the last of four Mounties to testify at the Braidwood inquiry, admitted he asked to “change” his evidence after viewing a video of the death shot by a bystander.

  

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Another RCMP officer retracts statements at Dziekanski inquiry The Canadian Press  VANCOUVER, B.C. — Robert Dziekanski was not, as he has been portrayed in the past, the agitated man who withstood the shock from a Taser and swung a stapler at police, the most senior RCMP officer admits. In the hours and days after Dziekanski collapsed and died on the floor of Vancouver’s airport in October 2007, the four RCMP officers involved told investigators he was an aggressive threat to public safety, even after he took the first shock from an RCMP Taser.The officers said they had to wrestle Dziekanski to the ground – evidence disputed by a witness video of Dziekanski’s dying moments.Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robinson told a public inquiry into Dziekanski’s death Wednesday that he made erroneous statements to those homicide investigators.

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Police should re-open investigation of Dziekanski incident, say Vancouver Sun  Vancouver – A West Vancouver man who was one of the founders of the Solidarity movement in Poland called for police to re-open its investigation into the death of Polish citizen in 2007. Zygmunt Riddle, said he “absolutely” believes the police handling of Robert Dziekanski should be reinvestigated, in light of the testmony that has emerged at the Braidwood Inquiry. “The testimony of the RCMP officers involved in the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Braidwood inquiry raises serious questions about the integrity and honesty all four officers involved in the Tasering incident,” Riddle said in a letter he sent Wednesday to Attorney General Wally Oppal. Riddle handed out copies of the letter to reporters attending the Braidwood inquiry, which is probing Dziekanski’s death at Vancouver International Airport after 1:30 a.m. on Oct. 14, 2007. Riddle told reporters that he also set up a Facebook group, which has 10,000 members, asking for the attorney general to review other criminal cases the four officers were involved to make sure there wasn’t a miscarriage of justice. He said the four officers have now shown that they made false police statements, which the officers only changed after seeing a video taken by a bystander at the airport.The inquiry has heard that the police statements of the officers were riddled with errors.

  

“The “Wayne” to whom Chief Supt. Bent presumably is referring in the e-mail is Supt. Wayne Rideout, the head of the integrated homicide investigation team into Mr. Dziekanski’s death who admitted under oath at the commission that he had lied to public as to the circumstances of the incident. Supt. Rideout publicly claimed that Mr. Dzienkanski had been Tasered twice, when in fact the man had been hit with the stun gun at least five times. He also claimed the officers had to wrestle the man to the ground because the first shot had no discernible effect, when in fact video evidence is clear that the distraught would-be immigrant from Poland fell quickly after he was first zapped.  The absolutely sickening thing about this entire episode is that were it not for a bystander with a camera phone who had the presence of mind to videotape the conduct of the four officers, their lies, evasions and concocted story might have worked to let Mr. Dziekanski’s death be explained away.  Commission counsel Art Vertlieb is absolutely justified when he observed Friday that this delayed disclosure raises questions about whether the RCMP has actually shared everything in its files that Mr. Braidwood needs to do the job.”  http://www.thestarphoenix.com/Dziekanski+probe+turns+into+fiasco+RCMP+bungles/1716292/story.html

 

Saskatchewan RCMP officer charged with perjury in drunk driving case , GRAVELBOURG, Sask. – A Saskatchewan RCMP officer has been charged with perjury in a drunk driving case.   http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/608250

 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/mounties-ask-b-c-court-to-bar-taser-inquiry-from-finding-misconduct/

RCMP  Canada  CarToons

 

 
 
NOW I ALSO KNOW FOR DECADES THAT OF YOU GIVE A GOOD WORKER A JOB HE DOES HIS BEST, WHEREAS IF YOU GIVE A BAD WORKER A JOB, THE SHIFTLESS PERSONS TRIES TO AVOID DOING ANY WORK EVEN BY LYING, HAVING TOO MANY COFFEE BREAKS, GOSSIPING WITH MANY OTHERS, LONG LUNCH BREAKS.. SUCKING UP TO OTHERS.. ETC 
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/mounties-always-get-their-man-or-a-woman-in-this-case/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-workers-who-complain-that-many-errors-are-caused-by-the-work-overload/ 
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/liars-mounties-misleading-everyone/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/rcmp-accountability-report/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/no-confidence/
 

WHAT? A RECESSION IN CANADA?

The employed ALL SEEM not to be able to see the recession and tend not to care about the unemployed till they get laid off.. sad isn’t it..
THE EMPLOYED CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER STEPHEN HARPER HAD  PROMISED NO RECESSION IN CANADA ONCE

 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/s/capress/090325/national/budget_officer_deficit Budget officer says jobs disappearing faster than stimulus can create

OTTAWA – Canada’s economy has deteriorated so badly since the federal government introduced its budget that more jobs have already vanished than the $40-billion stimulus was intended to create, the parliamentary budget officer says.

FAITH, FREEDOM, FAMILY NOT JUST MERE WORDS.. BUT EMPTY WORDS

Canadian Lawyers, Pastors, Judges, Politicians do not  hestiate to recommend divorce too

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 NEXT HERE  IS AS TO  WHAT  HE SAYS

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 Prime Minister Stephen Harper found himself vigorously defending his government’s economic forecasts Thursday, shortly after announcing new infrastructure spending for Quebec.  “We don’t pull our projections out of the air,” Harper told a news conference in Levis, across the St. Lawrence River from Quebec City.  “We arrive at our projections based on a survey of the best private-sector forecasters across the country.”  Harper said Canada is in a period of enormous uncertainty where forecasts are changing rapidly.  His remarks came a day after the country’s parliamentary budget officer said Canada’s economy has deteriorated so much since Ottawa introduced its budget that more jobs have already vanished than the $40-billion stimulus package was intended to create.  Kevin Page’s latest report shows an economy that plummeted in the first quarter of this year and erased most of Finance Minister Jim Flaherty’s projections when he tabled the budget in January.  http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090326/harper_charest_090326/20090326?hub=Canada

I had already not only stated beforehand that using a federal stimulus program that gives dollars to the Municipalities monies  to spend  was a wasteful and ineffective approach, even under the previous federal governments and most citizens still do think this has not been a effective program. Survey say stimulus cash had little impact and Stimulus cash didn’t create many jobs, budget watchdog concludes .

CANADA- POLTICAL CARTOONS

FINALLY HE SAYS…..

Judges cop out..

 

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Judges reject role in child-custody bill  The  Ontario government over a scheme aimed at preventing a repeat of the shocking death of a Toronto child last year  would require judges to play the  role of “investigators” in child-custody applications launched by non-parents.  The judges who do not hesiate to aks for a raise too condemned the   provisions as imporper, “an unwieldy and intrusive scheme” that will force judges to assemble a welter of evidence involving prior child protection proceedings, family law proceedings and criminal record checks. “It is improper for judges to assume this role,” they said. “A court is not equipped to administer a scheme of this nature, nor are judges equipped to conduct the kind of investigations contemplated, assumed, promised, etc., The Judges only pretend they work it seems.

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Meanwhile

Canada admits war criminal Straight Goods –  Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Attorney General Rob Nicholson and other responsible ministers were notified on March 11 of specific evidence clearly

  

Police probe cyber attack on Liberals Toronto Star –  Toronto police are investigating an alleged attempt by a Progressive Conservative to hack into the Ontario Liberal party’s website. 
Life after John Tory Globe and Mail

September 6, 2008

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“Quebec couple battles corporate giant and wins  Canwest News Service 
 
A former Quebec couple has scored a key legal victory for cellphone customers after a judge ruled they were duped into signing three-year contracts with Telus Mobility Inc. with a misleading promotion.Son Le-Tien and Thi Nguyen broke their contracts with Rogers and signed up with Telus after a 2004 promotion promised a free trip for two to a choice of 25 international cities. After discovering not all was as advertised from promotions partner Free Air fare, the Montreal-area couple tried to cancel their contracts.Telus retailer Contact Com DL Communications of Laval, Que., slapped them with penalties totalled of $1,794.72; all Telus contracts stipulate customers must pay $20 per month in penalty fees for every month remaining on a broken contract.When the couple refused to pay, the retailer handed the file over to a collection agency.The couple sued the Telus retailer in small claims court, and just won a key victory that industry watchers say should send a message to wireless phone companies about misleading promotions and about their billing practices.The couple signed up with Telus after they confirmed Sydney, Australia was part of the promotions package put together by the local Telus dealer. But when they tracked down an official with the travel company working out of an apartment building, they were informed Sydney and Asian cities were off limits. In her decision, Micheline Sasseville of the Quebec Court awarded the couple an additional $2,000, “given the seriousness of the violations” and the attitude of the defendant, who ” appears to be unconcerned by this matter.Technology consultant and telecommunication experts Jesse Hirsch says this response speaks volumes about the attitude of the cellphone industry. The outcome of the lawsuit, however, should be a wake-up call to them, he said.”There are so many Canadians who don’t understand the contracts they sign with their wireless providers and the marketing that leads them to sign them is misleading. But people don’t have the time, money and courage to fight back,” said Hirsch.”It shows that when people fight back, they win, but what a hassle.”

Michael Geist, Canada Research Chair of Internet and E-commerce law at the University of Ottawa added: “The bigger issue here is it places the spotlight on these long-term contracts, which are becoming enormously problematic . . . It may embolden other consumers to similarly take action in this instance.”” 
 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 
Sadly this practice of false, misleading adverting is too often had even been done by some Internet service providers who also were, are  appears to be “unconcerned by this matter” and due to the millions of consumer involved the governments themselves should firstly step in, regulate and enforce the matters.. not the courts.
do see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/and-i-used-to-think-that-politicians-were-big-liars/
 
do see also https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/apple-mr-jobs-has-admitted-privacy-invasion-iphone/
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