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January 28, 2010

HERE IS THE UNBELIEVABLE REALITY

Now isn’t nice that in Canada I can do whatever I want, and I  am no one’s slave too.
 
THE UNBELIEVABLE REALITY. To many self centered persons can only count the money in their own pockets, and dream of how they can use others for their own benefit..
 
Hey I often have met people who think only of their own self importance, professionals and politicians, cops now included, and who think that no one can touch them, they cannot be made to face any negative consequences for their immoral acts, lies, tax evasions, abuse of others, and boy they quickly do turn even white with fear, pale pale, are shocked, when real negative things happen to them such as public exposures, job dismissals too.
 
 I once had a livid dream, where I was sleeping in my bed, and two snakes walked into my room, visible to me as a fat mother and a skinny daughter snakes.. and this daughter was ready to strike at me.. but the old fat mother snake said leave him alone, he is too strong, too dangerous. And they retreated..
 
Now next over the years in real life I had too often  witnessed the reality of these snakes, even Cinderella’s manipulative, conniving, scheming wicked step wife and step sisters were real after all.
 
Such dominating enslavers, control freaks, greedy, immoral, self centered power hungry persons who have unrealistic expectations, even what others will do for them, cause they are mostly lazy still too, have gone now overboard with their fantasies, and are naively believing them still are in for a rude awakening..
 
I am nobody’s slave for start, and I do not have to obey them now too or submit to any of their false demands, which is only the beginning of their perverse hopeful enslavement of all others too…
 
But is is not just mother in laws, sister in laws, brother in laws, step mothers, step sisters, that can be now so perverse, evil but sometimes also next even our own brothers and sisters, and also bad cops, bad pastors, bad civil and public servants, neighbors too.
 
Now they can all Dream on… but still they are all headed for a big fall even into the pits of Hell next too..
 
see also
I have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are deceitful..
Can a person change?   very very  unlikely 
 

February 6, 2009

THE BOOGEYMAN CALLED FALSE TONGUES

The Boogeyman Called  “False Tongues” By Mel C. Montgomery

Of all the empty arguments offered by Cessationists, it is hard to find anything more bizarre than their claim of the existence of “false tongues.”  This doctrine is the new Boogeyman. http://brothermel.com/theboogeymancalledfalsetongues.aspx

For those of you who are unfamiliar with American culture, please allow me to explain who the Boogeyman is

The Boogeyman is an imaginary monster we sometimes frighten small children with.

We tell them, “If you don’t behave, the Boogeyman will get you!”  Or, “If you don’t do well in school, the Boogeyman will get you!

Little children will sometimes become convinced that there is a monster hiding under their bed or in their closet.  They say, “The Boogeyman is in there!

Sometimes also, when faced with a situation of which they are unfamiliar or for which they have no explanation, such as the sudden death of a family pet, or the appearance of a wart, children will exclaim, “The Boogeyman did it!”

The Boogeyman eixsts only in the imaginations of immature minds.

The False Tongues Boogeyman is the latest concoction in a long string of discreditied arguments the Cessationists have offered over the years.  Cessationists start from the false premise that genuine speaking in tongues ceased upon the death of the last apostle.  I have soundly disproven this starting point in my article, “Tongues Throughout Church History,”   I show from ancient Christian documents that speaking in tongues and other gifts of the Spirit continued on for several centuries after the last apostle died, and have frequently re-appeared in times of great revival up to this day.

Never-the-less, in spite of the clear evidence of Scripture and church history, Cessationists persist in arguing that speaking in tongues has ceased.  Needing to offer some explanation for the widespread occurrances of speaking in tongues today, they claim such instances are manifestations of “false tongues.”  Their argument is that when Christians today speak in tongues, they are doing so not under the influence of the Holy Spirit, but by the empowerment of Satan.

As of the year 2,000 a.d., 537 million born-again Christians speak in tongues.  This is 30% to 40% of the Body of Christ.

That is an awful lot of “false tongues.”

Are we truly to believe that Satan has taken possession of more than a third of the Body of Christ, without anyone noticing?

Here is why I do not believe in the existence of “false tongues”:

First, the Bible makes no mention of false tongues.  The Bible warns of false prophets, false apostles, false teachers, false Christs, and false accusers, but there is no warning of “false tongues.”

Second, among Paul’s specific instructions concerning speaking in tongues at Corinth, he does not question the validity of the tongues themselves, nor does he instruct us to do so either.

Third, if a false speaking in tongues does exist, which is inspired by the indwelling presence of an evil spirit, I believe such tongues would be impossible for a Christian to receive.  As Christians, we are the temple of the Living God (II Cor. 6:16), and the Spirit of God dwells in us (Rom. 8:11).  If evil spirits in the demon possessed could not tolerate the presence of Christ in his earthly ministry, I do not believe a tongues-inspiring evil spirit can cohabit with the Holy Spirit in a Christian’s heart.

Fourth, Jesus Christ gave us a specific promise that if we asked the Heavenly Father for the Holy Spirit, we would not receive a serpent or a scorpion–symbols of evil spirits–but we would receive the Holy Spirit.  “…how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”–Luke 11:13.  I do not believe that Christ’s promise has failed 537 million times.  I do not believe that 537 million Christians asked for this manifestation of the Holy Spirit, and that God stood idly by and allowed them to receive 537 million demons.

Fifth, there are no known reports of any manifestations of speaking in tongues in Christian churches that are clearly identifiable as “false tongues.”  I have spoken and interpreted public messages in tongues countless times now for 17 years.  Never once has an interpretation included, “Praise Satan!”  Or, “Jesus be accursed!”

Not once…in thousands of occurrances…In 17 years.

Sixth, all interpretations of tongues I have witnessed, participated in, or of which I am aware, always glorify Jesus Christ, extoll Christ’s victory over Satan, and exhort Christians to live holy lives and obey God’s written Word.  No manifestations of “false tongues,” inspired by evil spirits, would do so.

The following is an excellent example of the content of messages in tongues:

A highly-placed Southern Baptist official told me that some years ago, Billy Graham had been invited to speak to an assembly of students at an Assemblies of God College.

Billy Graham was on a very tight schedule.  He had just enough time for his plane to land, then to travel to the seminary, speak, and then rush to catch his next plane.  And as if that wasn’t difficult enough, Billy Graham’s plane landed late.

He was rushed to the seminary.  He quickly spoke his message to the students, and concluded.  He left the microphone and was several feet away, when someone stood up and spoke a message in tongues.  Billy stopped and listened.  A moment later, another student stood up and gave the interpretation.

Billy returned to the microphone and said:

“I was pressed for time today.  And the message I gave you actually had four points to it.  I had only enough time to give you the first two points.  That message in tongues, just gave you the last two points of my message.”

And he rushed out to catch his plane.

Are we to believe that an evil spirit was courteous enough to quietly attend this meeting and then finish Billy Graham’s message for him?

Has Satan joined God’s evangelistic team?

Seventh, we have no reports of false tongues, inspired by evil spirits, manifesting among the unsaved, and in places of false religion and sin.  False tongues have not appeared in houses of prostitution,  casinos, Jehovah’s Witnesses meetings, or at the Playboy Mansion.

Speaking in tongues occurs exclusively in Christian churches.  They involve only Born-again Christians.  The content of the messages glorify Jesus Christ.  These occur only as Christians praise, worship, and pray to the Heavenly Father.

It is a considerable stretch to believe that such manifestations could be anything but genuinely inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Are we really to believe that 537 million Christians experience continual demonic manifestations of false tongues, when false tongues were so rare that the Bible did not even address the issue?

This argument is nothing more than the Boogeyman.

Just as the children’s Boogeyman disappears from the room whenever the light is turned on, so also does the Cessationist’s False Tongues Boogeyman disappear when confronted with the light of Scripture, church history, present-day experience, and common sense.

Copyright 2006  Mel C. Montgomery.  All rights reserved.  Material may be copied and shared with others if done so without charge, in entirety, and if attribution is given.

We have done miracles in thy name.. they had claimed

Jesus next never denied their claim, and never accused that, said that their gifts were false..

the gifts were genuine.. rather it was the persons themselves who were false.. pretenders, imposter Christians

and that is true in many Pentecostals and non Pentecostal churches today as well..

Depart me from me he Jesus next said for I do not know you..”

Many even religious persons, people are falsely trying to reach Heaven, serve God in their own efforts neglect God’s provisions for them, God’s spirtual gifts. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/come-holy-spirit/

 
 
I have a whole site that deals with true and false Pentecostal bashing. http://postedat.wordpress.com/ but all critiques firstly need  to be balanced..
> Pentecostals who are inherently  unstable from the constant hypnotic emotional experiences.
and in reality this is just real crap, and slander  produced by one’s personal distortions, lies and bitterness.. for you find the same type of bad people in all churches, 30 percent of church people are basically saved, the rest, the 70 percent are not and thus they too   act weird..
>The pastor of such places has dictatorial authority over the church people.
is some more distorted crap for most churches for the last few centuries now too have a dictatorial pastor in  all denominations now as well, not just Pentecostals. And what you have never been to a Baptist church?
>Much of my criticism of Pentecostalism comes from my experience within the Oneness brand. However, in correspondence with people across the Unites States and the world, I find that the abuses of power and the intimidation of people exist among the several types of Pentecostalism, in addition to the Oneness sect. ( or even not just to Pentecostals)
I have also witnessed abuses within the Oneness brand Pentecostals and also within PAOC , Latter Rain Pentecostals, but also in Baptist, Brethren, Mennonite, Alliance, Catholic   churches, and so now what you did not?
– AND FOR A START THE UNACCEPTABLE ABUSES I HAD WITNESSED HAD VERY SIMILAR PATTERNS.. THEY WERE RELATED TO STEALING OF MONEY, DISTORTION PREACHING ON TITHING, BUT ALSO RELATED MAINLY ON THE INADEQUATE SUPERVISIONS BY THE RESPONSIBLE SUPERINTENDENTS ON THE BAD PASTORS WHO WERE FALSELY ALLOWED TO DO THEIR OWN THING, ACTED LIKE DICTATORS.
>Breaking the traditional bonds of friends and family is the most subversive thing that also the crooked Pentecostals Pastors do to maintain control, like many cults,
 
and this is a distorted crap  cause other denominations also  do the same thing, and there are righteous, good Pentecostals as well.
 
 
In reality too as well non Pentecostal denominations, such as fundamentalists, Brethren, Baptists also help to break family ties, encourage spouses, family members falsely to divorce especially a Pentecostal adherent. Now get honest, balanced, real
– ON TOP OF THAT I HAD NOTED THAT IN THE CROOKED CHURCHES, LOCAL CHURCH ELDERS TEND TO BE NON EXISTENT, even in other denominations
-AND yes   in the bad Pentecostal churches THE MEN tend to  STAY  AWAY FROM THE CHURCH IN DROVES, THE WOMEN OUTNUMBERED THE MEN IN THE ATTENDANCE which was DIFFERENT FROM THE many churches I had visited, attended.
>> Are they former criminals? This does not matter since all their previous sins are “under the blood.” Are they respectable people? This does not matter – they spoke in tongues, so they must be “changed and good people.” 
and they tithe, so they must be “changed and good people.”  This is undeniably true. not just in Pentecostal churches too, but in the Baptist, Alliance, other churches..
>Letters from an Ex-Pentecostal  February 2005
but  there are true and false pastors, true and false churches now in all of the Christians denominations for a start. Mention that truth for a start too.
There was so much emotional rubbish, lies, distortions in the rest of the letters critiquing the Pentecostals  that they were not at all  worth reading, it gives a real bad impression to the readers about the writers, posters firstly. The devil is the one sided accuser of the brethren and too many writers there clearly had fell into his hold.
I liked all the great non existent Bible references too… it seems the writers were not real Christians to start of with, they were  clearly ignorant, or ashamed off the Bible, God’s words.
I suggest that  you revise the letter seriously.
  
 In real life sibling rivalry, bullies, oppressors can be found everywhere, in our homes, amongst our associates, in our communities, on the net, in politics, civil and public services, even in the churches as well. These are the people who falsely abuse others and despise the human rights of others, and they falsely do think now that God himself approves of it or overlooks it all.. Nothing could be further from the truth. But our own final peace, reward will be in Heaven.Now about these false bullies, thugs, the proud oppressors, war mongers
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/bullies-thugs-proud-oppressors-war-mongers/

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/

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“The ONLY way you can get to heaven is by being born again!!! THAT’S what Jesus told Nicodemus! prior to Pentecost and being Born again means also being Baptized with the Holy Spirit too after the day of Pentecost, as Jesus himself also had commanded… and everyone who was baptized with the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts showed it by speaking in toungues.. otherwise you truly are not Born again if you do not speak in toungues.. like it or not, believe it or not.. that was the New Testament pattern.. so do you speak in toungues, or why not?
 do see also

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/covet-to-prophesy-and-forbid-not-to-speak-with-tongues/ http://sacredtruths.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/god-can-speak-directly-to-you/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/now-about-speaking-in-tongues;

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I really get a big chuckle in hearing from all those pretend, rather hot air speaking in tongues experts who themselves admit they cannot speak in tongues.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/follow-after-charity-and-desire-spiritual-gifts-but-rather-that-ye-may-prophesy/

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations too who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
  
DO SEE ALSO
 
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/

January 23, 2009

Alcoholic consumption entertainment at taxpayer’s expenses

 

 

 Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.html

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Our Canadian Christian evangelical Prime Minister Stephen Harper makes an essential stop at the Irish Guinness brewery, he sure has fooled all those fundamental western Christians who voted from him cause they had been lied to that he was an Christian evangelical abstainer    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/canada-pm-arrives-in-dublin-ahead-of-g8-summit-1.1430527
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

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For all the fundamental evangelical Christians who say that PM Stephen Harper DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.. HERE IS THE REALITY “VANCOUVER, B.C. – It seems U.S. President Barack Obama owes Prime Minister Stephen Harper a few cold ones. The two leaders had a friendly bet on the outcome of Sunday’s gold-medal Olympic hockey game.   Team Canada came out on top, so Obama will have to pick up a 24-pack of Molson Canadian for the prime minister. Harper would have had to buy Obama a case of Yuengling beer if the U.S. had taken the top honour at the tournament. Team USA beat Team Canada in the first match-up between the two countries in the preliminary rounds, but Canada came out on top in a heart-stopping overtime round on Sunday. Harper was at the game in Vancouver but Obama did not make an appearance at the Olympics. The prime minister met with the gold medal winners in the locker room after the game to congratulate them. ”
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/obama-owes-harper-a-few-brews-after-canada-takes-us-in-olympic-hockey-85784877.html
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I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THE LYING US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OBAMA SUPPORTER HAD SAID THAT CHRISTIAN OBAMA DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL..

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And how much major hurt and damage does alcohol drinking still cause in Canada? and how much money does it costs the taxpayers now too? Much too much too. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/ 

The Police in Canada also should Maintain efforts on drunk driving,   paying close attention to detect and charge drunk drivers,  all year and not just during the holidays
 
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Quebec bill to lower blood-alcohol level. The new law would permit zero alcohol for drivers younger than 21 and introduces a new sanction for anyone caught between 0.05 and the current legal limit  Under the proposed legislation introduced last December, police could suspend the licence of drivers with a blood-alcohol level between 0.05 and 0.08 for a 24-hour period. 
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 It seems that 70 percent of the adults drink alcohol in Canada too but 100  percent of them claim to be non alcoholics? civil and public servants included, and where do all of the many drunk  drivers, alcoholics  come from now too? For the civil and public servants all you have to do is look at their expenses accounts, see how much they charged us for booze and that will quickly show us all whether they really are alcoholics or not for a start.  Few alcoholics will admit they are alcoholics just as few persons will admit they practice tax evasion as well. Drunk drivers still cause most of the car accidents but the police prefer to go after speeding tickets, it is easier to to get the speeders.. and very profitable, sadly it also ties up our courts with the mostly unnecessary cases too. If you drink 2 martinis at lunch time or supper time  for a start  you are definitely an alcoholic.. andf if you are an alcoholic you should be fired from your job as well.
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Drinking alcohol cause permanent brain damage, it also causes a significant deterioration of one’s mental capabilities, deterioration of one’s inter personal relationship skills, it also causes more car accidents than speeding or not having adequate winter tires, it also reduces significantly one’s work productivity as well undeniably too.  So  tell us all now:
– How much money did the Prime Minister, the Premiers themselves now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year,
– How Much money did the federal, provincial cabinet ministers now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year
– How much money did the civil and public servants now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year
I trust you all can readily supply us all with the answers
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Fundamental evangelical pastors preach it is a sin for any Christian to drink alcohol, Liberal Christians such as Catholics or Eastern Orthodox church say it is not. But one thing no one can deny is how harmful drinking alcohol is.. in Russia 60 percent of men and women die due to drinking alcohol..

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I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian  pastors, politicians still do falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it..  

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I still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride. Sadly I have often been in bad Christian churches where the clearly crooked pastor to turn off attention off himself would bash some other churches, some other denominations and some other persons, but all that bashing of his now did not still deny his own sins and his own wrong doings though now. The Bad preacher are not the only ones who can preach about other people’s sins and demand others to repent, so can I, bad pastors now included and I rightfuly  do often as well.

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 (Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2  Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3  For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceived himself. 4  But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5  For every man shall bear his own burden.
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Now as I was reflecting about my many past posts on the net  in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting  it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..(Eccl 8:11 KJV)  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
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 I have often also met in evangelical circles the despotic foremen,  dictatorial types, bully, jungle fighter   leaders, the same persons who think they are supreme over all others, they can take the law into their own hands, and even do what they want over any others, physically now as well. I have not totally now understood how these unacceptable, abusive slave drivers got to this personality stage or why they falsely think in their abusive pride they will get away with it forever now as well. Ironically the wolves in sheep clothing exist Canada wide, even in evangelical churches, political circles too now, and I guess for me telling the truth that is why so many of them hate me, do not hesitate to ban me or kick me out of their often also  bad churches now too..
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  I had attended a recent comical church service,  New Beginnings Ministry 9412 Rue Clement Lasalle, QC H8R1T5 Phone: (514) 363-1080., a farcical circus, not the first time now too,  where Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor was preaching about everything, bashing everyone else, but somehow he could not keep his own promises, his  own word, or stay on a specific valid subject. And he made it clear if you  rock his boat he will next also kick you off the ship..  The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of this New Life Beginnings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly  now  for us not to believe any of the news media and for us not to  have anything to do with any person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all of the people who do any wrong, to even openly speak to them, ( as long as it is not the pastor himself  for sure) and yet he lied and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him.. for next  I thus told him that our PM stephen Harper the supposedly good Christian now drinks beer/wine.. Tom Flanagan, a political scientist at the University of Calgary and Harper’s former campaign director and chief of staff said that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was his regularly beer drinking buddy. Others confirmed that Harper drinks wine and Beer such as even George Bush..   well  next the pastor really got upset at me..  since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refused to further talk with me  and said  he was tired now, he  refuses to hear any of that, he refuses to believe any of that, for that is all gossip,  slanders, and also we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for this supposedly Christ like church and their false professing Christian love, false brotherly love, their supposed openness now, and one’s free speech too.. 
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Freedom of speech to many of these despotic, self centered, agenda oriented  preacher  is generally one way, they alone are allowed to do all of the talking, and no one else, everyone else is only allowed to listen is also what I have directly experienced here too. If you challenge what they say they falsely do immediately divorce you, even physically assault you and kick you out of the church now too.  The same pastor says he does not believe anything the news media writes at all. So who does he believe? only himself it seems and anyone else like minded. So what truth is he really now peddling, a distorted ones clearly. For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? Why did this pastor? They can only face the negative reality from a distance… Not  the first time I do now meet such fundamental ostriches.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/
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One of the things I have found also so confounding is how many preachers can be filled with both truths and lies, falsehood, errors and how come? Why is that?   I was passing through the city of Chicago on the way to Winnipeg and I had decided to stop in a Pentecostal church, that I had read about in Christians magazines, books now too, this Church had regular Sunday services casting out demons out of Christians too. I was dismayed to  hear the preacher at a Sunday morning service also preach that the Russians had an army of tanks on the US border in Canada ready too invade the US, and most people there had next accepted this as the truth. Funny or sad  how so many people seem to be ready to believe gross lies over the truth, reality  from their leaders now even  in churches as well. For certainty I next saw no Russians tanks at the Canadian border when I drove on to Calgary Alberta as well.
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(Gal 3:26 KJV)  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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(Job 13:4 KJV)  But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
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(1 Cor 14:29 KJV)  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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(1 Cor 14:31 KJV)  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 
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Please do have the local LaSalle police remind the pastors, elders, members, adherents of this Pentecostal church that is is still illegal for the pastor or anyone else now there too to physically assault anyone, even if it is in their church. They may have a right to ask anyone to leave their premises, but as I have witnessed myself now they do not have a right to physically grab, lay hands, assault any person in their church even now too especially when he did nothing wrong.. That right is only for the police and is limited for them as well.. If someone next after being asked refuses to leave the church when asked they can call the police. I told them that I was glad to leave this church on my own free will and will be just as glad not to come back too. 

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Honor Killings, Violence. In reality too the Cops themselves, RCMP included, now   are not the only one who resort to violence when their authority is threatened, so do some clearly bad, hot tempered evangelical  pastors now too..  I too before have already experienced in Canada  a  direct physical assault of me by  a rogue Pentecostal pastor who had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too,, in front of a witness, backed up with a police report , cause I had refused to go to his church. An another Pentecostal pastor and even a church elder,  were  attempting to physically abuse me to stop my public revelations of his unacceptable acts, thefts of money too. and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter who also had experience physical assault attempt  by a Plymouth Brethren pastor. But none of this should be a surprise when a pastor’s authority, financial security is threatened ehh..
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“Opposition parties are threatening to vote down this week’s much-anticipated Conservative budget because it contains a potentially contentious proposal to permanently slash taxes for middle-class Canadians. While the Conservatives say the tax cuts will help working families during a challenging economic era, the Liberals say the rollback is ill-advised and will do little to stimulate the economy. “If the permanent tax cuts were very large, we would be very concerned, partly because it would saddle future generations with a big debt and a permanent deficit,” Liberal finance critic John McCallum told CTV’s Question Period Sunday. McCallum added that the tax reductions will be an ineffectual stimulus because people are more likely to save extra money during recessionary periods. And if the Tory budget fails to deliver what’s best for Canada, McCallum said the Liberals will have little option than to vote it down. ” Harper’s budget seems to be more of his political buying toys over rally kick starting the economy. Something he Harper had promised he would not do as well. Canadians should be skeptical of any new spending announcements by Harper’s administration. The moves are an attempt to cement public support for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s minority government .  “Their track record when it comes to putting shovels in the ground is the worst of any recent government at any level in terms of actually getting things built and money spent,” ,  Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy also lamented that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government has spent only 20 percent of previously announced infrastructure funding.
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When it suits him only PM Stephen Harper is willing to leak information to the citizens, news media.. Stephen Harper was elected based on his past promises of a new and better form of governing, openness, transparency and accountability.. none of these promises were kept next as well. Canada’s Conservative government’s own cult of secrecy. It now under Stephen Harper is Harder than ever to get information from the federal government  Harper clearly himself has penchant for secrecy. “Not since the advent of the Access to Information Act (ATIA) in 1983, has it been so difficult to get timely information from the Canadian government.  Delays routinely extend seven months past the 30-day requirement to release records; complaints can take over two years for a response. A two-year backlog of complaints to the commissioner “permits several federal institutions to enjoy a two-year amnesty (extension) to release records..  and the long delays in responding “encourages many institutions to claim a range of exemptions, exclusions or exaggerated fees which would not otherwise be permitted under the act, knowing . . . it will take the commissioner no less than two years to adjudicate the complaint.”   In 2007-2008, of 29,000 Freedom of Information requests received, 1,381 investigations were completed, leaving 2,387 to be carried over. The lesson ..”that the mere existence of an access statute does not, in itself, guarantee access to information.”  The Harper government has increased “exclusions, exceptions and prohibitions” in disclosing information, thus “government institutions are still operating under a cult of secrecy.”
 
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Harper’s turnarounds include:
 
The Senate. He was adamant he would not resort to the old politics of stacking the upper chamber with party cronies. But faced with the possible defeat of his minority government, Harper moved fast before Christmas to fill 18 vacancies with loyal Conservatives, many failed candidates or with party ties.• Fixed election date. In May 2006, Harper proposed fixed election date legislation that would set the next election date in October 2009, to stop political leaders from “trying to manipulate the calendar.”
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Instead, Harper called an election last September, saying that Parliament had reached an “impasse.” But he was also hoping to capitalize on his own promising poll numbers and a weak official Opposition before the economy worsened.
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Now if he  PM Stephen Harper now was  was so smart in the first place then  how come he could not even see the recession coming? or the coalition threat? Conservative Governments also tend to never spend wisely in the first place. Can they even be trusted firstly to next even keep their promises? So now can we even really trust the PM Stephen Harper and his Conservative government for sure next even when their budget  motivation is done in panic — due to Harper’s   near-death political experience forced on him by the opposition. Harper originally came into government promising to make it smaller and more efficient and is clearly willing to sell all of his principles to stay in power at all costs. Foolishly Merely Giving away money, or going into a large deficit,  themselves are  not a sure way to revive the economy.      
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From: Schuler, Ron
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: I would like to know
Thanks for your email, as I can’t answer for all the rest I can tell you that I have spent not one penny of the publics money on alcohol.
With regards
Ron R. Schuler, MLA

AND WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THEM?

Now we have revelaltion in Sept 2009 of alcohol abuse in Ontario too

And why did it take so long to investigate and take action when this was brought out before in the past?

The “culture of entitlement” at the lottery corporation appears to be a deep-rooted problem that will not be solved by the new procedures put in place by Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty, said Kevin Gaudet, federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

Under the new Ontario Government rules revealed this month , employees with unacceptable expense claims such as alcohol for staff functions and personal items must repay the taxpayers. McGuinty’s move follows the revelations employees at Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp expensed items such as a $3,713.77 dinner for 38 people that included more than 10 bottles of wine and other alcohol. The Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp.’s 10 highest-paid employees expensed at least $2,533 on alcohol between January, 2007, and December, 2008. A sales and marketing meeting at the Keg resulted in a $260 liquor tab; 38 people at a pre- Sound of Music business dinner drank $885 worth of alcoholic beverages. Any hospitality event at which alcohol was served would have to receive prior approval. The same provincial public-service rules also require written approval before all out-of-province travel, rarely evident in the documents the province made public this week. It all now still reveals a culture of acceptability that is inappropriate in a recession and in any Crown environment. The past provincial directive, which has been in place since 2004, states that “reimbursement of meal costs must not include the reimbursement for any alcoholic beverages.” The Ontario Liberals have also ordered a review of the 600 provincial agencies, boards and commissions to root out spending abuses. New Democrat Leader Andrea Horwath said the added layer of scrutiny doesn’t assuage concerns about widespread illicit spending among government agencies. NOW WHAT ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

I am also now outraged over Conservatives travel expenses. “We should be outraged over travel expenses.. Toronto Star published a story on Nov. 22 detailing what appeared to be exorbitant travel expenses for federal government cabinet ministers and some public servants. Firstly Considering the state of the economy at this time and the fact the federal government will be returning to deficit financing, it should not only be encouraging federal travellers to fly economy class but insist on it.  The Star said its investigation found spending by ministers, political staff and bureaucrats to be far from the frugal image of the Harper government. “Some federal travellers can’t seem to get to London, England, for less than $6,000, even though economy seats were available for $1,000 to $2,000,” the Star said. “In our analysis of 60,000 travel records over four years, we found $18,000 flights to Australia, $7,000 flights to Paris, $11,000 flights to Indonesia and $8,000 flights to Switzerland.  The Alberta environment minister and an aide spent $3,200 each to fly to Bali for a United Nations conference on climate change. Former federal environment minister John Baird spent $10,920 for a flight to the same conference. Add in three political aides and two bureaucrats at similar rates and the total airfare cost to the Canadian taxpayer was $61,000.  The Star said it found that Harper’s ministers often travel with a large entourage at high cost.   The Star said it found that while both had been big spenders, “most Conservative ministers spent slightly more than the Liberals they once accused of being lavish spenders.”  However, Tony Clement wasn’t one of them. The then-Conservative health minister travelled economy to Kenya and Tanzania to visit health clinics and deliver a $150,000 government cheque. However, the whole trip wasn’t done on the cheap. For some unexplained reason Clement allowed two aides to sit up front in executive class at $11,000 a pop, bringing the total cost to $30,000 to deliver a $150,000 aid cheque.”  http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1402617 .

The federal government should take immediate action to control interest rates and fees on consumer credit cards because those climbing costs are choking consumers and businesses amid the deepening recession, says Senator Pierrette Ringuette. Ringuette, a Liberal from New Brunswick, argues the upcoming federal budget is a golden opportunity for Conservative Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to tackle the controversial issue of regulation.  Caps on interest and other fees are firmly on the political agenda in other countries. But with no clear sign that such measures are in the works here, Ringuette is urging members of the upper chamber to champion the cause. As Flaherty unveils his budget in the lower house on Tuesday, Ringuette will lay the groundwork to revive a motion for the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce to probe Canada’s credit card and debit card systems. In addition to scrutinizing consumer rates, she wants to examine other behind-the-scenes charges including interchange and merchant discount rates. “Canadians must be boiling mad right now because nobody is paying attention to the consumer,” Ringuette said. She questions how the economy can rebound if consumers and businesses must absorb higher costs on “Canadians must be boiling mad right now because nobody is paying attention to the consumer,” Ringuette said. She questions how the economy can rebound if consumers and businesses must absorb higher costs on credit cards at a time when many are struggling to stay afloat.  Other countries, meanwhile, have bolstered regulations. In December, American regulators announced sweeping changes, including a new rule to protect consumers from interest-rate increases on existing account balances. Taking effect in 2010, that change means credit card companies can only raise interest rates on new cards, future purchases and advances.  http://www.thestar.com/business/article/576545

Tom Flanagan, a former Harper campaign organizer and strategist, said Harper has transformed from a conservative ideologue to a political survivor, but remains a victim of his own dark side. “Both sides are real … but what you see more and more is the political Harper,” said Flanagan, author of the acclaimed Harper’s Team: Behind the Scenes in the Conservative Rise to Power.

Tom Flanagan, a political scientist at the University of Calgary and Harper’s former campaign director and chief of staff said that the Conservative  strategists before the 2006 federal election. Conservatives wanted to attract Roman Catholics, visible minorities and married women with children.  By cutting taxes, particularly the GST, Harper has simply starved the centre-left of the fiscal room for new, big-ticket social programs he also said.. Gerry Nicholls of the conservative online portal Libertas Post says Harper caters to “populist conservative” values such the family, the military and criminal justice – but avoids the issues of individual freedom, smaller government and balanced books.

Flanagan said the “Machiavellian” side is far more troubling than his political transformation, given that it almost cost him his government. “He lost the initiative by provoking the other parties into this potential coalition against him … and now he finds himself having to put together a budget which is really a coalition budget … the government’s hand is fairly weak right now.”” Toronto Star

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has made tax cuts a top priority since he was first elected as the leader of the Conservative party but has he rather made things worse now? 

 
Harper also accused of ditching principles to keep power. The same person  who revered his conservative ideology is clearly now he’s sacrificing it for political expediency. From the Senate to fixed-date elections , government appointments, defecits,  Prime Minister Stephen Harper has sent  his political principles into the waste bin.  “”We will not be running a deficit. We will keep our spending within our means. It is that simple. The alternative is not a plan. It is just the consequence of complete panic, and this government will not panic at a time of uncertainty,” Harper told a Toronto audience on Oct. 7. Times change quickly and, with them, the politicians who rule .”Absolutely he has abandoned his principles … I don’t even recognize this person who is the Prime Minister of Canada,” said Gerry Nicholls, who worked with Harper at the National Citizens Coalition. Harper is a one-time head of the coalition, a non-partisan organization for the “defence and promotion of free enterprise, free speech” and accountable government. “He was a principled small-c conservative who believed that … conservative politicians should stick by their principles,” Nicholls said. “I think he began to care more about public-opinion polls than his principles.”

Prime Minister Stephen Harper also has broken with traditional budget secrecy, revealing nearly $6-billion in spending plans over the past three days…     This from a prime minister who just months ago vowed there would be no deficit. The Tories are planning to run deficits totalling $64-billion over the next two fiscal years, including $34-billion in the first year and $30-billion in the second. Other spending announced in recent days:
$1.5-billion in funding to boost training for laid-off workers including even those who are ineligible for Employment Insurance
$500-million in targeted support for older workers
$1-billion in funding for renovating social housing
$600-million for on-reserve aboriginal housing
$400-million for seniors’ housing
$75-million for housing for people with disabilities
$1-billion community adjustment fund for single-industry and resource towns hardest hit by this economic crisis (forestry, mining and agriculture communities). This national fund would have flexible criteria for applicants in order to help their communities adjust to the changing economic climate
$160-million for new investments in arts and culture
$150-million in forestry industry aid, including more than $100-million to develop new uses for forest products and $50-million to help promote the industry abroad as environmentally responsible
$550-million for farmers, including half a billion to help adjust to tough times and $50-million to expand slaughterhouse capacity
I have often heard it said that most Canadians Canada wide now are still like fearful sheep they are too ready to be fleeced, sadly it also seems they must have ostrich genes in them for when you present negative truths they tend to often rather bury their heads in the sand as well it  seems.. especially in in too many of the evangelical churches.. or  the ostrich sheep in Alberta who also now too often seem to think no Conservative politician can ever do any wrong rather it has to be the other bad guys, you know the liberals. Or the BQ separatists, the communist NDP… Ironically the wolves in sheep clothing exist Canada wide, in evangelical churches, political circles too now, and I guess for me telling the truth that is why so many of them hate me, do not hesitate to ban me or kick me out of their often also  bad churches now too.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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 Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 
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(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13   But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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(Mat 24:48 KJV)  But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49  And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Do see also
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/prime-minister-stephen-harper-let-me-repeat-myself/
 
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** The Pastor had said that God does not let us to talk to anyone who drinks wine, but this is a rather distorted, extreme interpretation of the Bible, The Bible clearly says WE ARE NOT TO FELLOWSHIP WITH A CHRISTIAN PERSONS WHO GETS DRUNK.. now that is really different from not talking to any of the people who drink wine.. and why is this pastor so ready not to talk with others now too? so ready to smite them, to kick them out of church? If you have love for someone you are willing to talk with them, but if you do not have love for them, especially if, when you know they do not support you, do not agree with your presentation, do not agree  with your point of view, you as a pastor too no can personally can instead  refuse to love them, you refuse to talk to them, you find any excuse to reject, ostracize, divorce them basically to deny, to cover up the unacceptable reality that you yourself the pastor actually do not have any love for them.

• Supreme Court appointments. In December, Harper appointed Thomas Cromwell of the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal to the Supreme Court, bypassing a parliamentary hearing process he championed to more openly scrutinize nominees.

• Government appointments. The Prime Minister had promised to implement a public appointments commission to eliminate cronyism in such appointments. It was to be part of the government’s much-vaunted Accountability Act. It never happened and, since winning its first minority government in January 2006, the Tory government has made some 1,500 appointments, many based on political pedigree.

Michael Ignatieff.  M.P  Leader of the Opposition Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada clearly should give more attention on dealing with elderly abuses over grandstanding with abortion.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/federal-bucks-discrimnatory-support-for-seniors/

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Only the US cops drive drunk now?

An off-duty cop slammed his car into the front of Tiffany’s flagship Fifth Avenue store at 3 a.m.  in a crash that investigators suspect may have been alcohol related, police sources said.  The car – with the officer behind the wheel – plowed into a garbage truck at the corner of 57th St. and Fifth Ave. before careening onto the sidewalk at 3 a.m.,   The impact was strong enough that the three occupants had to be cut out of the vehicle. All were hospitalized. DWI charges are likely. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cop_crashes_into_tiffany_booze_suspected_7GIcYrovjcWQis8PAaDtsK

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While there is no way of knowing exactly the real number of drunk drivers on the road every day — police can’t be catching them  at all times, if they are certainly not trying too but instead are wrongfully spending their time and energy on revenue generating speeding tickets. Yes impaired driving is everyone’s business and  all citizens who see erratic, unsafe and suspected impaired driving need to call police on the 911 line. Police can’t be everywhere at all times, but they should respond  fast and effectively when alerted. And simply lower the allowed blood alcohol limit to the chosen point at which drivers are deemed no longer any danger and showing no tolerance for drunk drivers
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Not only are so many of our civil and public servants bad examples, even alcoholics now too, but the Governments, Police are too soft on alcoholics too. 6 times more persons are killed by drunk driving over speeding at least. Many drunk drivers are only prosecuted by the police npw still only mainly two months of the year, December, January and those who drunls who have lost their license to drive a car next the majority of them keep driving without a license next anyway.
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Provincial governments in Canada are making record breaking profits by encouraging the citizens to consume even more  alcohol, beer and are making even  more even by the  taxation of these products. They should not be  encouraging the citizens to do so.
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do see also

October 17, 2008

How can a now Alberta redneck now get it so wrong,

 
It is historical fact, reinforced again this week, that Quebeckers have always voted for a party led by a Quebecker when confronted with a choice between such a party and one led by someone from outside the province.
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“The Bloc got another break when Stephen Harper made a statement pushing for teens who commit serious crimes to serve jail sentences in adult prisons. Mr. Duceppe slammed the Prime Minister for delivering “fresh meat” to prison pedophiles and sending young criminals to “the university of crime.”” http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/election-2008/story.html?id=882332
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Now really How can a now Alberta, redneck that was personally now even raised in Montreal, Quebec,  Harper now get it so wrong, did he accidentally offend the people of Quebec or did he do so knowingly because he not care if it did cause he was trying to please so hard his hypocritical, Conservative rednecks of Alberta, who do emphasize now wrongfully now the letter of   the law over the  spirit of the law.. for now when there is an increase of  problem children, juvenile delinquents,  it is the parents firstly who have to take the majority of the blame and not the children. Surely the self professing Christian evangelical, Alliance church,  Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows this from his own personal Bible readings? (Prov  22:6 KJV)  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
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or is Harper  still just a pretender Christian now too not just a pretender politician?
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and the answer is?
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In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  But still not Barrack Obama or Stephen Harper and why?
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 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
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The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.
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Following my post about Obama the alcoholic drunk?  last Friday , even Obama the cigar smoker, a  past  drug user too, next  since Friday Obama went down 5 percent in the polls and low leads by 3% only  and McCain next strengthened his support with the Christians.. but CNN also next responded by proving that Sarah Palin’s daughter was also an unacceptable alcoholic next , and CNN made no comment about Obama’s drunkenness orgies…
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 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick   persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

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(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

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One thing is still very clear the too often pretentious news media and  the too often pretentious  politicians, Mr. Duceppe ironically is one of the worst  MP I  talked to personally,  are not actively doing their jobs in helping people to be informed, having the proper facts to be able to make the proper decisions, take the proper actions, so do thank God for the existence of the internet, no matter how imperfect now it itself is as well.. it offers now at least some valid truths to the discerning readers.

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 “I knew would happen, after the corrupt and scandal-plagued Conservatives failed to get a majority because Quebecers were too smart to fall for Harper’s vote-buying bribes and negative advertising, the embittered cynics trot out the letters bashing Quebecers as selfish separatists. In a letter about the inter-provincial bridge proposal, David Hooper whined that “the majority of voters in the riding of Gatineau” supported the Bloc Québécois. That’s odd, considering Bloc MP Richard Nadeau received just 29 per cent of the vote. By no measure is this a majority – in fact, more than 70 per cent (a majority) of Gatineau voters supported federalist parties.Besides, voter turnout in Quebec was 61 per cent, and only 29 per cent of Gatineau voters chose the Bloc. That equals less than 18 per cent of the voting population. Let’s use some common sense here. Just because the election might not have gone the way Mr. Hooper and Mr. Clark wanted is no excuse for Quebec-bashing.”Mark Johnson,Nepean

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/letters/story.html?id=f4127e33-5e4f-4225-a2e3-d68bdfd3e36b

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/all-time-top-posts/

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Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper who clearly really does not care about the good welfare of all the citizens of Canada next got his redneck conservative supporters distortions of why he had lost the 2008 federal election and , did not get a majority, need to see that Hamper is the one step forward, two steps backward loser rather and not falsely blame Quebec for  any of this

A picture is worth a 1000 words? so what about a movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX20u1Y_iik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivWq14vsIU&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuEdY0jy4GE&feature=channel

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the rich man’s social club

                 
                
  
I was sitting in one of the biggest,
most established evangelical churches in Canada
for the first time..

and surprisingly next I heard Jesus say to me,

” Paul what are you doing here?”

shocked I said in reply” I am worshipping in your house?”

 and Jesus replied to me and said

” but these are the rich who persecute the poor people

so I ask you again what are you doing here?:

Embarrassed I shortly next left

and never came back to this bad church.

yet the people in that church were proud of their church,

their accomplishments..

 it too was rather a rich man’s social club

and not a real church..

  

AND IT WAS in the Calgary First Christian Missionary Alliance Church, Stephen’s Harper’s church too 

 

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

 

drunkenness behavior is unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick  persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

September 26, 2008

Evangelcial Pastors do not have to break the law.

  
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“Endorsing from the Pulpit Pastors launch challenge of IRS rules on endorsements.    Pastor Gus Booth remembers when he used to simply encourage his congregation of 150 in Warroad, Minn., to vote each Election Day. Now, he thinks it’s important to tell them which candidate should get their vote. On Sunday, as part of the “Pulpit Initiative” organized by an Arizona-based conservative Christian legal group, Booth is set to join dozens of clergy nationwide in challenging Internal Revenue Service rules that prohibit churches from politicking by supporting or opposing candidates. “If we can tell you what to do in the bedroom, we can certainly tell you what to do in the voting booth,” said the Minnesota minister, an evangelical leader of a nondenominational church, who expects to endorse Republican John McCain during his “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” sermon. “The voting booth is not some sort of sacred cow that you can’t talk about. You’re supposed to bring the gospel into every area of life.” The Alliance Defense Fund announced the initiative last May as a way to challenge IRS rules that date to 1954. ADF spokesman Greg Scott said the organization contacted “pastors, priests and rabbis from every major denomination,” and knows of 33 clergy in 23 states who intend to take part on Sunday. At least one clergyman who was contacted joined in filing a complaint against the initiative with the IRS. “We’re basically aiming to get these rules declared unconstitutional so that pastors have the right to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment,” said Dale Schowengerdt, legal counsel for the ADF. “http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/septemberweb-only/139-41.0.html
 
“Pulpit Initiative About Freedom, not Politics The purpose of the Alliance Defense Fund’s Pulpit Initiative is to restore the right of pastors to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment by the government for doing what churches do: speak on any number of cultural and societal issues from a biblical perspective. The purpose of the Pulpit Initiative is not – as some have said to confuse the issue – about whether pastors should or should not “endorse” candidates. The issue with which ADF is concerned is over who regulates what may be said from the pulpit.

So, the Pulpit Initiative is not about…

· turning the church into a Political Action Committee
· allowing contributions to candidates
· any particular candidate or political party
· “political” speech
· endorsing or opposing candidates

The Pulpit Initiative is…

· a bold defense of the First Amendment’s Establishment, Free Exercise, and Free Speech clauses
· about protecting core religious expression
· only related to what a pastor says from his pulpit, for example, on a Sunday morning (i.e., not about voter guides, candidate appearances, or other “political” activities)

Certainly, congregations and a church’s leadership can tell pastors they don’t want names of candidates spoken from the pulpit. But that is very different from government censorship. To government regulators, today’s “Gospel” may well be words that are tomorrow’s “politics.” ADF has already defended Americans in many cases where publicly preaching words straight from the Gospel has led to censorship…and even jail.  The bottom line is that no enforcement agency of the federal government should be telling a pastor what he can or cannot say from his pulpit about the Bible and his church’s teaching on the issues of the hour – even if the pastor’s sermon applies Scripture and church teaching to candidates and elections. Such agencies certainly cannot condition tax-exempt status–a status churches have always been constitutionally guaranteed since our founding–on the surrender of cherished First Amendment rights. In fact, for 166 years, churches freely preached directly on political candidates’ qualifications for office. That was no problem when the Constitution was signed, or when the first Commissioner of Internal Revenue was appointed in 1862, or when the federal income tax was authorized by the 16th Amendment in 1913. Nor were churches transformed into political machines. When the IRS code was amended in 1954 to ban “intervention” in political campaigns, it was an act of political retaliation by then-Sen. Lyndon Johnson against two anti-communist groups. It had nothing to do with “church politicking,” and scholars agree that churches were not the target of the regulation. ADF has the U.S. Constitution and the weight of American history on its side. Those who oppose the Pulpit Initiative have yet to make one constitutionally-derived argument against it. It is ironic that they laud the “separation of church and state” in opposition to the Pulpit Initiative, but by opposing the initiative, are asking for continued government control and censorship of a pastor’s sermon.The pulpit is no place for government regulators.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2008/09/pulpit_initiative_about_freedo.html

Pastors do not have to break the law. They can merely live by faith in God to provide and now discontinue from giving out tax receipts on all donations and thus be free to speak as any ordinary citizen can. The Bible does not prohibit them from doing this now as well l ike Rev George Mueller did too. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

 
  see first https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/ontario-judge-orders-website-to-reveal-identity/
It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

August 25, 2008

FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICALS AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS

1 Cor 15:33 Do not be so deceived {and} misled! Evil companionships (communion, associations) corrupt {and} deprave good manners {and} morals {and} character.

Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived {and} deluded {and} misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.)   For whatever a man sows, that  is (also)  what he will reap. ( he can  reap too what others have sowed now too)

2 Tim 3:13 But wicked men and imposters will go on from bad to worse, deceiving {and} leading astray others and being deceived {and} led astray themselves.

Acts 20:29 KJV For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/little-red-riding-hood-meets-pinocchio-in-church/

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Billy Graham  Is God judging him now so that all men will see this before Graham goes on to hell where all pagans go?  You figure it out please. His vast cash flow at this time is obscene in view of the historic heritage of godly men over the ages, beginning with our Lord.  Billy Graham in no way can justify a true need for the cash flow he enjoys.  I wonder how many missionaries could go to the field if this giving were re-directed, leaving Graham enough for his needs alone?  “Evangelism” is how Graham first justified his invitation to the saints to give to his needs.  Don’t tell me, “He is worthy.”  That is a lot of bunk.  Vast wealth is never justified when we KNOW that the Lord of Harvest chooses the poor and plain saints to do His work.

Also, there is no justification, as far as I know, for the vast sums now being used to undergird the BGEA as the organization comes to a grinding halt as an evangelistic entity.  The end of everything comes one day or another, and the hangers-on need to move on and find other things to do.  Yet, the groupies cling to the wasting body of the big man like a pack of house cats to a dying widow.  In fact, I have wondered if Graham is not being propped up in the corner in a near comatose state as the troops shift and shuffle the cash.

http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/resource/christian_news_1999_graham.htm

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Note this When a  Church, it’s pastor is wrong on one doctrine you  can be assured there are many other errors too.

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Generally, mostly it is the insecure people in God, because of their still unresolved guilt, who falsely have an emphasis on forced evangelism, and they falsely do support enforced, forced tithing because they do not have enough of a relationship with God for HIM to supply all of their needs for their ministry. It should be noted that Jesus himself and the Original apostles had never requested tithing, and clearly they had not relied on tithing for all of their missionary endeavours. They trusted God for their leading and their needs to be met Jesus himself and the Original apostles financial request lay solely in helping the poor Christians. These same people generally are falsely trying to find God’s favour not by faith in Jesus Christ but falsely by their religious good efforts as they clearly still do not know what faith in God means..
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Romans 3 : 3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
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Hebrews 11
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/tithing-2/

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No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

 

THE WAY MANY FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICAL AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS  TRY TO MAKE FUN AT OTHER CHRISTIANS IS SICKENING, A VERY POOR THEOLOGY AND IS SADLY NOW ALSO TYPICAL OF THE MUCH TOO OFTEN FALSE BASHING OF THE PENTECOSTALS  TOO! It clearly makes me think that Satan himself is behind most of it still too. 
 
    
Fresh Fire Ministries Todd Bentley  – Canadian revivalist – preacher – Lakeland –  CHURCH WARNINGS – FALSE HEALING REVIVAL IN FLORIDA?  -Possessed – DEMONIC MINISTRY –  -Fraud -False Teacher –   devil possessed?-  False Prophet? outrageous   Highly Inaccurate “Prophet”- booted  -Dangerous Man- http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/disturbing-trend-sensationalized-religious-postings/     
 
 Now here is the problem I have , sadly and unacceptably fundamentals, others bashing the Pentecostals has been popular the last 30 decades as well, even though 75 percent of all Christian, even evangelical pastors, and  in all denominations are still bad, they too  are not spirit filled these days too..
 
Unlike the mostly control freaks, bullies, bashers, Pentecostal critics who also falsely try to shut me up, do delete my replies, I myself have been willing to talk about all of it openly and honestly too .
 

“Andrew Strom says there are 9 Lies in the Church; Truth Watch agrees, but   has he got the Right Answers?

An itinerant evangelist and preacher, Andrew Strom [AS] has recently posted a document on his website listing what he calls ‘nine lies’ afflicting today’s church. Truth Watch has reproduced Andrew’s nine lies because we are encouraged that some Charismatics and Pentecostals are aware that there is something amiss in many of their churches. Some of Andrew’s points support the objectives and claims made by Truth Watch. We agree with much of the criticism that AS offers regarding the state of the church. Sadly though, AS ends up looking in the wrong places for solutions.

[AS] “It is a sad fact that today’s church is deceiving itself in some very crucial areas. (Actually in many other areas now too)  Below are some plain facts that may shock a few people”:

[TW] Andrew’s [AS] opening statement is correct and accords with the premises contained in both our long and short declarations. More and more people appear to be recognising that there are some major problems in all of the evangelical church. (Not just in the Catholic, Pentecostal or Charismatic ones  )

[AS] 1. “Ask Jesus into our heart” is not in the Bible. Neither is “Give your heart to the Lord”, or repeating a “sinner’s prayer”. These practices do not exist in Scripture at all. The subject of salvation is the most important subject in the Bible and we are being lied to about it. These doctrines are a total fabrication. They were invented to make salvation “quick and convenient” Many church members today who are relying on these things are clearly not ‘saved’ at all”. ( Accept  now Jesus Christ as lord of your life is!)

[TW] AS is quite correct. This disturbing phenomenon has been apparent for a long time. A watered down gospel is ‘another gospel’ and is forbidden by Paul (Galatians 1:6-10). Because so many people are sold ‘cheap grace’ there are probably many in the church who are not really saved, many of whom leave. The church has suffered from this problem ever since Finney introduced such easy-believism ideas and techniques 150 years ago 9 (Even by the evangelists  DL Moody) . Ray Comfort has also correctly identified that claims concerning ‘decisions’ at many evangelistic events are misinterpreted as genuine conversion. This results in inflated figures that are used to support such techniques. True Biblical evangelism includes an emphasis on the sinful nature, God’s holiness and repentance, not just love and grace.

[AS] 2. “Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Only a backslidden church could fall so far away from the simplicity of the early church. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was basically when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” really took over. And we are still spending millions on these monuments today”.(  and the tithe itself now was not used to support any church buildings, but solely the poor people and the church workers and their families, and the people who received the tithe were not allowed to own any property as well)

[TW] While we are opposed to unwarranted and lavish expenditure on buildings, especially if the cause of the gospel is likely to suffer, the fact is that Scripture doesn’t address the issue of owning property. AS’s point is therefore made rather more strongly than needed. ( But when most Church Properties theses day are owned, managed by a Cooptation that is not fully, daily accountable to the direct  congregation this is really unacceptable too)

His argument also misses an important point: for the first 200 years the churches could not own property freely as a persecuted and illegal sect. Even in the NT it is clear that the early church was open to meeting in public buildings (eg: Acts 19:8-10). It is interesting that as soon as they were permitted to do so many churches did buy or build their own facilities – implying there was no inherent opposition to ownership per se. Churches should be free to follow their consciences in this area, but should be open to a challenge based on a claim of unwise stewardship. This claim could be levelled at many churches today who spend a great deal of money on buildings at the expense of their willingness or ability to learn correct doctrine and spread the right gospel.

[AS] 3. “The ‘one pastor runs everything’ model is totally unscriptural. Far from running everything, in the book of Acts we find the word “pastor” NOT EVEN USED ONCE. (The early church did have strong leaders and elders. But it was never a “one man band” like we see today. And never was it so “controlling” either)”.

[TW] We are not sure what he implies when he says the word pastor is never used in Acts. It is used in Ephesians  and only once. But his basic premise is quite correct. Many church leaders assume they have some sort of divine right to rule. They become ‘nicolaitans’ (‘heavy shepherding’ – Revelation 2:6) – those who like to exert power over the people, often leading them into error in the process. A pastor’s proper role is that of the shepherd (closely associated with teaching) equipping the people to be mature and active in the faith (eg: Ephesians 4:11-16). The problem is not pastors per se, but rather pastors who abuse their authority and role and refuse to bow to the Scriptural standards for shepherding a church.

[AS] 4. “Tithing” is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the New Testament we are told to give cheerfully – whatever we purpose in our hearts to give. Telling people that they MUST give 10% to the church or they are “robbing God” is totally sick – and a money-grubbing way of twisting Scripture. There is no evidence that the apostles EVER preached ‘tithing’ to New Testament believers. It was clearly regarded as an Old Testament practice”.

[TW] AS’s makes his point rather simplistically but he is correct. Tithing at most establishes a guideline for voluntary NT giving but it is not mandatory. Sadly, many churches make tithing an article of faith. Nicolaitan pastors are often associated with a heavy emphasis on tithing. Some use money gathered in this way to support a lavish lifestyle and/or they waste it on foolhardy ventures.

[AS] 5. “The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ was NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only exist a couple of times in the entire New Testament. Yet greedy preachers have built whole kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammom” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles. But we don’t hear these things preached too much, do we?”

[TW] We have made a feature of decrying the so called ‘faith-prosperity gospel’. It is a shameful deceit that will not go unpunished. It brings the Word of God and the witness of true Christians unjustifiably into disrepute (see 2 Peter 2:17-19). AS is quite right. Nicolaitanism, the false tithing message and faith-prosperity are often associated.

[AS] 6. “There were no Bible Colleges, Seminaries or degrees in the New Testament. The only people who seemed to have “Bible Schools” were the Scribes and Pharisees! The apostles were simple fishermen and tax collectors. It is likely that a number of them could not even read or write. What was their “qualification” for being in the ministry? Simply that they had SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH JESUS. The fact that people expect a “professional clergy” today with degrees from Bible College has helped to make the church sicker and more unscriptural than ever. Simple humble people with a calling from God often cannot get to minister because they do not have a “piece of paper” to make them ‘qualified’.-Yet another disaster for the church.”

[TW] While biblical scholarship is not wrong per se it is true that an over-emphasis on theological studies, as the main criteria for pastorship, is wrong. It is wrong because it is dangerous. A person’s gifting and calling for leadership and teaching comes from God, not a theological college. However, it does not follow that formal theological, (cemetary training ) is inherently wrong.

It makes sense for a group of churches to pool pastoral training expertise and resources – but any such institutions or arrangements should be orientated to serving the churches and training pastors as a priority. Pastors and elders should emerge from within the church, not from seminaries. A danger here is to overreact and deny the need for proper training – leading to poorly taught leaders who are weak in the Word and vulnerable to deception and sin. ( Sadly getting a seminary degree does not mean one is holy sprit filled, nor even Christian for that matter)

[AS] 7. “There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “main meeting” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! There were no church buildings. They did not dress up and “go to church”. There were no denominations. There were no separate groups with different ‘labels’. They lived their lives together – all the Christians in the local area. Love and fellowship and ‘koinonia’ were as natural to them as breathing. And the apostles in Jerusalem preached every day at huge open-air gatherings. -Not “hidden away” inside four walls. This was truly a “street church” in every way.” ( actually there church  meetings stared on the first day of the week, and they started Saturday at 6.00 pm and continued likely till the wee hours of Sunday morning, and similar meetings were often held during many other days of the week too)

[TW] AS is just plain wrong on this point. Christians may have met everyday in the very first days, but they also shared all in common (Acts 2:44-46). Most Christians don’t see this early post-Pentecost situation as normative for today (does Andrew believe we should share everything?). It is clear that the later regular practice of NT churches was to meet regularly once a week for public worship on the 1st day (Sunday)/”Lord’s Day” (eg: Acts 20:6-7; 1 Corinthians 16:1-3 cf Revelation 1:10).

Early historical examples of Sunday worship:

AS should also refer to the Diadache (written sometime between 70-120AD – believed by most scholars to be the earliest church document outside the NT)
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html
14:1 But every Lord’s day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure
(Chapter 11 shows they already had problems with many false prophets!)

Sunday worship in Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians (c115AD) Chapter IX
http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-17.htm#P1504_264385
If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death

Sunday worship in Epistle of Barnabas (c100AD) Chapter XV(15)
http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-41.htm
Ye perceive how He speaks: Your present Sabbaths are not acceptable to Me, but that is which I have made, [namely this, ] when, giving rest to all things, I shall make a beginning of the eighth day, that is, a beginning of another world. Wherefore, also, we keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead and when He had manifested Himself, He ascended into the heavens.
We could give many other examples, and this all 300 years before Constantine made Sunday ‘official’ (but he was only recognising the actual practice of the churches).

AS rightly points out that there were no denominations in the NT. However, there were hardly the numbers to allow this or time for many errors to arise in a coherent manner. Unfortunately today denominations are a necessary evil if Christians are to worship in conscience freely yet still recognise each other as Christians. To force us all into one church necessarily leads to ecumenical ‘control-from-the-top’ or doctrinal compromise – the very things Andrew opposes!

A better solution to these percieved issues is not to abolish Lord’s Day worship, but to promote a consistent church life through the week and to seek unity based on a common committment to the Truth. [For more on this issue see our article on church unity]

[AS] 8. “The idea that you can replace the moving of the Holy Spirit with programs, programs and more programs just shows how low we have sunk. Man-made programs are everywhere today. The early church had much more of God and much less of ‘man’.”(  One of the most boring events in  life is to sit through these predictable unspiritual, sad events still too)

[TW] AS fails to say that the Spirit speaks through the Word ( but even then not solely and the Holy Spirit  still uses Prophecies now as well) , or that we need to return to the Word ( Firstly meaning Jesus Christ) . Hence he leaves the door open to people having “words” claimed to be of the Spirit. Such “words” are often used to justify unbiblical practices. This may be AS’s achilles heel. He has talked of going to set up a ministry in Kansas City, USA. If this means he plans to work with the so called Kansas City prophets it suggests AS’s doctrine in regard to the Spirit and the Gifts of the Spirit is flawed. [For further information read our letter to the pastor of the Upper Hutt City Fellowship concerning Rick Joyner]

[AS] 9. We preach a ‘humanistic’ Jesus today. – A Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness”. A Santa Claus who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us. A God of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offences of the modern church. Today’s church seems to worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that she has made in her own image. What an offence to God.

A lot of preachers are well aware that there is some thing very wrong with the church today.  (It is mostly the preachers themselves that are not right with God) They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord’. They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit. They know that it is just the same old “game” being played every week. A lot of them are very aware of this. But they will not do anything about it. They will not rock the boat. And they will “squash” anyone who comes along trying to do something. They do not want a real “shaking”. There is too much to lose. They have their careers and their little ‘kingdoms’ at stake. This is the real truth of the matter. This is where the rubber truly meets the road.

That is why God is about to bring “Great Reformation”. He will not put up with these ‘hirelings’ any longer. He will not have them as leaders over His people. A lot of them are about to “lose their heads”. They will never lead God’s people again. This is what true ‘Reformation’ is all about. It is the process of replacing the old leadership and the old lies. -It is David taking over from ‘Saul’.

There is a ‘New Wineskin’ coming. In fact it is upon us. There is a new leadership arising – many of them trained in the ‘wilderness’ for such a time as this. The hour is now here. LET THE NEW LEADERS ARISE! The sad fact is that today’s church has sunk so low that it is almost a matter of people needing to be RESCUED OUT OF HER. I never thought I would say something as radical as that, but it is the truth.

The entire church is living a lie. Many inside her are told continuously that they are “OK” – that they are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be further from the truth. Multitudes of them are headed directly for hell. The systemized LYING that is going on has deceived the leaders and the people alike. It is the blind leading the blind. We need to contend for these people – desperately. Much of the church is “lost”. They are mired in deception – an entire system of deception.”

[TW] Again, AS is generally right in his initial observations here, but his solutions badly miss the point. A true reformation only comes about through a faithful and repentant/prayerful return to the priority of the Word. Only as the church reforms in light of the Scriptures and becomes more faithful in proclaiming the gospel – can we regain hope of a genuine revival. Andrew’s over-emphasis on a supernaturally restored leadership is putting the cart before the horse. Godly leadership will only come from a return to the supremacy and priority of the Word and its associated truth. AS’s exaggerated view of the Spirit has distracted him. He needs to remember that the Holy Spirit comes to lead us into all truth, hence TW’s insistence on a return to a correct understanding of God’s Word. ” http://www.truthwatch.info/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=112

My concluding comment

 Our actions must be founded on what we know to be true from God’s Word, and that what is being directed us  personally to each one of us by the Holy Spirit, and to do that we all still do need to continually in reality live a Holy Sprit filled life. it starts by daily reading the Bible, having a Bible devotional, and sadly even most pastors do not do that too.

August 9, 2008

Libel on the net

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Google will only remove defamatory material from Blogger when “the material has been found to be defamatory by a court, as evidenced by a court order,” according to Blogger’s terms of service.
 
and some  bloggers have been now denied any further access to  the net  to make any posts by the courts too..

 
 
It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.
 
 
Bashing Pentecostals Christians, evangelists,  on the net even by even the  fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/
 
It even seems too many professing, evangelical,  Christians still think they can  lie about, slander, abuse others, other Christians on the net too, and in Churches now too,  and they think can get away with it too, because the net is supposedly unregulated and churches..  and because of   their own right of free speech.
 
Free speech is a right you still have to use wisely, But one can be sued for libel on the net still in Canada according to the Queen’s courts, and this should applied now in Australia, Great Brian and other commonwealth countries now too. In Canada the RCMP certainly admits to monitoring the net.. While the Internet is in Canada unregulated by the government , the Police  courts still do regulate internet abuse. Of specific interest was the  continual ongoing consistency of deformation of character, personal attacks,  Libel, slander, bullying, the invasion of privacy too.
 
CP    VANCOUVER – A B.C. Supreme Court judge has awarded an Australian man  $180,000 for being the brunt of an Internet tirade conducted by a Nanaimo,  B.C., man.  The case involved the thorny question of how to crack down on  the lawlessness of online libel and slander.  Justice Douglas Halfyard  concluded defamatory statements along with the worldwide exposure of Robert  Griffin’s identity had serious and adverse effects on Griffin’s life and  mental health.  In his judgment, Halfyard found Patrick Sullivan responsible  for publishing four years of false and defamatory statements accusing “that  the plaintiff is a stalker, abuser, harasser, criminal, evil, liar, killer,  sexual predator, pervert, pedophile, coward, manipulator and hate monger who  threatens others with death and violence … and deserves to be jailed and  killed.”  Griffin’s lawyer Dan Burnett said most people don’t have the money  or stamina to fight against those kind of relentless Internet accusations.  “He felt it had to stop and the only way it was going to stop was to do what  he did which was commence the action and seek damages and seek an injunction  and essentially stand up to the bully.”  Burnett said the court award and  subsequent injunction stopping Sullivan from writing anything more about his  client is a warning to other Internet users.  “It illustrates that there is  a line, that when crossed, puts you into court and is a breach of the law.”  The whole situation started with postings on the Internet suicide website  ASH, in which participants discuss suicide and depression.  Griffin became  embroiled in a vicious dispute with several of the members of ASH, including  Sullivan.  The situation escalated when Sullivan published personal  information, such as Griffin’s age, his real name and the fact he lived in  Sydney, Australia. Griffin had been using the name Magnus Pym.  “I have  found that the defendant was, in many instances, indifferent to the truth of  the statements he was making,” Halfyard wrote of Sullivan.  “That is malice  and that is an aggravating factor.”  Included in the $180,000 award is  $50,000 for aggravated damages because Halfyard said the facts “demonstrate  that the defendant was motivated by an unjustifiable intention to injure the  plaintiff.”  Griffin has also been awarded $25,000 for breach of his privacy   and almost $5,000 for expenses which included psychological treatment and  counselling, and payment for interpreting services required to investigate postings on the Internet in Russia.  Sullivan, who acted as his own lawyer,  claimed some of the accusations were true, he raised the defence of fair  comment and also denied making some of the statements.  Sullivan could not  be reached for comment.  Halfyard didn’t agree with the arguments.  “The  defendant failed to prove that any of his many other defamatory statements  about the plaintiff were true. The defence of justification fails.”  Burnett  said the sweeping injunction is especially significant because it forces  Sullivan to stop referring in any way to Griffin and to remove all of his  ranting from the Internet.  “That’s in an Internet world where we think of  things going up and being irretrievable. If you’re the person putting it up  and you have the means to take it down the court might order you to do  that.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

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Canada’s  Supreme Court throws out libel case against outspoken B.C. talk show host   VANCOUVER — The country’s top court has absolved former Vancouver radio personality Rafe Mair of defamation for a commentary.   The Supreme Court of Canada decision in the defamation suit also broadened a key defence often used by journalists to ward off libel actions. In a 9-0 judgment Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Mair was engaging in fair comment in the 1999 radio editorial that was critical of Kari Simpson, a high-profile player in a campaign opposing the use of teaching materials about gay lifestyles in local schools. In the course of the editorial, the controversial former radio commentator made references to the Klan, Hitler and skinheads, although he claimed he wasn’t saying that Simpson actually advocated violence against gays. The judge went on, however, to say that Mair wasn’t liable for damages because he held an honest belief in the views he expressed – one of the traditional elements in the legal defence long known as fair comment. The Supreme Court, in Friday’s judgment   went on to rewrite the legal test for such a defence.  There was no proof that Mair’s dominant motive was personal malice,   and thus “his expression of opinion, however, exaggerated, was protected by the law. “We live in a free country where people have as much right to express outrageous and ridiculous opinions as moderate ones.” A key component of the fair comment defence has long been that the person making the comment must sincerely believe in it. In the course of the ruling, however, the high court modified that test. Commentary must still have a factual basis, be made without malice and be in the public interest, said Binnie. But the test of honest belief is not whether the specific person holding the opinion believed it. The yardstick is whether any person might honestly hold the view based on the facts at issue. Binnie acknowledged that is “not a high threshold” for any defendant to met. But neither is it appropriate to rule out “a piece of devil’s advocacy” in any debate on a matter of public importance.  Mair, who no longer works at the station, said he’s glad they took the case to the high court. “This could be a enormous benefit to the journalism industry and therefore, to the people that read and watch it,” Mair said in Vancouver. http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jdP5CRF6hm0H_fuYFL_m6d_jI7GQ
 
Mind you the same radio station did not like all the bad publicity they got and the radio personality next lost his job anyway.

Anyway all Christians are governed by higher laws even that of showing  love to others, meekness too, humility and purity too… not just whether they can be sued for libel, slander..

“Our US Constitution is one of our greatest assets in the fight against terrorism. A free-flowing marketplace of ideas, protected by the First Amendment, enables the ideals of democracy to defeat the totalitarian vision of al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.  That free marketplace faces a threat. Individuals with alleged connections to terrorist activity are filing libel suits and winning judgments in foreign courts against American researchers who publish on these matters. These suits intimidate and even silence writers and publishers. Under American law, a libel plaintiff must prove that defamatory material is false. In England, the burden is reversed. Disputed statements are presumed to be false unless proven otherwise. And the loser in the case must pay the winner’s legal fees. Consequently, English courts have become a popular destination for libel suits against American authors”   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121599561708449643.html

Too many people  still do believe in their own sole right of free speech still but they  do next try to deny these same right of others by even threatening to sue them for libel, slander.. sound Familiar Mr Stephen Harper PM of Canada? or Bell Sympatico? or the Toronto Airport Fellowship Church pastors? Benny Hynn? etc.,’

The pastors of the Toronto airport fellowship Church and many other pastors, Christians groups on the net  had asked me in writing not to write to them, and what they can preach about the sins of others but I can’t do that to them? What hypocrisy on their parts now still too.  Even in the churches, evangelical pastoral sections there are much too many really bad unacceptable apples still out there.
 
 Too often now our personal rights in this country are now slowly being forcibly demanded to besidetracked to accommodate others wishes by control freaks too …
 
Imagine what Canada would be like if any of the church pastors, government forcibly told the citizens, the columnists, editors, commentators what they could and could not publish. Imagine if we had something like a Ministry of Truth, a Ministry of the Media, a Ministry of Thought. If that doesn’t scare you then you rightfully  scare me.
 
These bullying groups appear to be using any angle within the law, courts,  or their influence to try and become our ’superiors’ in some way.
  
It’s about time that truths that are unpalatable to certain sections of our society be allowed to be expressed. We live in a free country, with the right to freedom of expression and speech. Telling the facts does not constitute a ‘hate’ crime now as well. Only those people who want to curtail or own freedoms while they use theirs  would call this a hate crime. If these various groups or people cannot tolerate anyone’s free speech, or debate, why in the world are they living in the west?  If you don’t like the freedoms that are enjoyed by ALL citizens here, then go live in a country where theirs and your freedom  now is denied.  Without freedom of speech, and the freedom of the press we can no longer claim to be a democratic country. No one has the right to stifle the free dispensing of valuable information. Not even Evangelical pastors.  We must all be be vigilant against any attempts of demonic enslavement of us and the  false hindrances of our own rights.  “Those that try to silence honest, open, and free speech are a danger to this country. I hold that to be true. “
                 
Now in Canada even  I am very used to people the much too many Bullies who  try to falsely dominate you, and these bullies go overboard in their reactions when you expose the truth about them and others  especially when their pet idols, or careers are threatened.  Me I am still rightfully loudly actively resistant  to all of the  abusers, bullies, liars, even to the Church, GOVERNMENTAL, CORPORATE, POLICE  oppressions still too. Even those persons who falsely try to send lawyers or the police to my home to harass me, to try to intimidate me, to shut me up. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well,  and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the Internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.

Let’s face it in life there is a positive  and a negative personal management style
 
just as there  are good and bad persons, leaches included.. such as bad lawyers, bad cops, bad pastors, bad politicians too..
 

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/ 

Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant  guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest
 
We ALSO do  still need to understand, define what abuse and what hate is, and an abuse is to deny a person’s legal, human rights, and hate is the clear opposite of love, meaning an unloving act.. Hate and  Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse in reality too.  And both hate and verbal, physical abuses are  all unacceptable at all times too no matter who you are or who you think you are too. .
 
but honestly critiquing  NOW certain individuals for their own unacceptable bad act is not always HATE. .
 
It is a false statement that if one makes any negative statement about Jews, Muslims, Arabs, white people, natives , etc., that one is  a racist or promoting hatred.. one can be  merely exercising one’s appropriate right of free speech, thought..
 
Now I had witnessed a Person committing immoral, illegal acts many times and when I rightfully reported it next to to the proper authorities, the clearly  guilty  person next  had distorted the truths and lying had said I was promoting hatred towards him and his family, which clearly now was not so. I was a witness of the immoral acts still, unacceptable wrong doings. 
 
Also I do not believe that everyone sets out to be a deliberate racist, it seems to be often merely a poorly thought out stupid mistake for 70 percent of the persons who do it, and many people once they realize what they have done next do even admit their errors and stop it, unfortunately there are the remaining few hate mongers who still do get carried away with their hatred, sins, who need to be incarcerated for their crimes so they can stop and learn not to do it..
 
(Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Cops too  seem to have it too easy in Canada, they do what they want, they abuse citizens and tend to get away with it too. Too many COPS, persons distort  the LAW. it’s meaning still too. 
 
“about the liars, thieves, ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “
 
THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
 
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
 
First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and  detail  proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.
 
Next God also is now fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..
 
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
 
WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.
 
APPROPRIATE  PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST
  
FOR A GOOD NAME IS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN ANY AMOUNT OF SILVER OR GOLD AND A TARNISHED ONE IS WORTHLESS.

 

Now too often I myself also do not agree with the comments,  free speech, but I merely  tend to disregard it it next..

but what I do rightfully oppose still any and all free speech  especially on the so called Christian Churches Internet sites, that is   lying, slanderous, insulting, abusive, bullying, bashing.. such as the false bash of Pentecostals by the Brethren, Baptists, Reformed, etc., haters. Or the supposedly evangelical Baptist pastor who had said in the pulpit that he could not understand what Hitler did that was so bad, I helped to fire him , he now sells life insurance instead.. http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holo.html

( I heard a local Muslim recently say the same thing to me, he could not uderstand what Hiltler did that  was so bad?  and so I asked him what he thought next if I will posted a cartoon on the net with the picture of his so called prophet saying the same thing.. he next quickly got red and objected to it..)

and even here now we all do still have 2 free speech alternatives.. we can post our rebuttal, objections on their Internet site or ours..

or next even take the matter  further to the news media, or  before the provincial Human Right Commissions, and others too..

for not all justice is handled in the courts of Law or by a lawsuit.

Do see also

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/       
 

August 7, 2008

The Spin Game – Evangelicals and their leaders, pastors do play now..

 
Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely
 

 
 do see also

Now in regards to the  “Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23 th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective comments so far.. real negative comments are excluded.

Hey I have said it there are no winners, here, the pastors, and supporter  from  both sides, lie, distort, bash in their endorsement, or criticism, and present mostly partial or  half truths it seems..  Anyone think still that having John and Carol Arnott there at Bentley’s revival rallies is a good endorsement? Not me!!!

Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.

 Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

>so why was walter kambulow now sued by some of these pastors? 
be cause he said that bad pastors were bad friends of Todd Bentley or what? 
 
Do now tell us all what you know about Walter Kambulow and the others firsthand too..
 
It was, is  clearly evident, in this present ungodly Internet wars, in the Ontario Queen’s Commercial court actions  between the Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario, that both sides are involved in revengeful acts, wanting now to pay each other back through the courts now as well.  What anyone still foolish to believe any of them are even now real Christians? And Walter Kambulow firstly admitting to being guilty of unintentionally violating a Canadian court order is not the same thing as any of the parties now yet being found guilty of deliberate libel, or slander.. but  so far it is clearly apparent that both sides here still really are not playing fairly, respecting the spirit or the letter, intent of the Canadian court orders, and yes both sides Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario undeniably are still not at all good examples of Christianity so far too. A clearly eye for an eye approach by both parties still is clearly a carnal approach and not a Christian one. You would have firstly thought the Church pastors themselves would have set a better example here too. I rightfully still have no  respect for any of them now too.
 
This all reminds me of the too common unacceptably allowed , false, misleading advertising of prices of their products by major grocery chains still too. For instance the present normal selling price of a dozen hotdog buns was $2. So a major grocery store chain makes this big flyer next this week advertising a Sale, a selling price of $1 now for the hotdog buns .. but in small print it states that the price is only 6 hotdog buns being sold.. and still a definite misleading play on words and product prices here too.. Last year the honest sale,  price   advertised was  a dollar for 12 hotdog buns. Unacceptable , too often immoral, greedy, price gouging  business persons, immoral lawyers, bad pastors too, so what else is new?
 
MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS CHRISTIAN  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTRD AND SPENT BECAMSE AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.
  
Jer 46:28  But I will chasten {and} correct you in just measure, and I will not hold you guiltless by any means {or} leave you unpunished.
 
Jer 47:6 O you sword of the Lord, how long will it be before you are quiet?
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Jer 47:7 How can it [the sword of the Lord] be quiet when the Lord has given it an assignment to discharge?
 
(Micah 3:8 KJV)  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
 
(Micah 3:11 KJV)  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
In love the unacceptable Pentecostal bashers,  critics under disguise of supposedly posting the truth,   who mostly still do use the same unoriginal,  ungodly, lame-brained, fool’s types of arguments, are not only clearly dishonest, uninspired, boring but they do also mostly  have a  personal  agenda that is so transparent that sadly they are  are an embarrassment, their agenda clear involves the fact  want to uplift themselves, their own gospel, sect, denomination mostly still as well. In love they should really read and practice the whole Bible firstly themselves.

Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.
 
There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many personal encounters experiences Canada wide too   that I had  but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead..
 
The bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot.
 
In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..
 
“They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this TACF group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..
 
Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”
 
and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..” http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/    http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/#comment-29644
 
I admit I have been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are , as well as the professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
 
I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..
 
But I know from many years of Canadian experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..
 
and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..
 
Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches are not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.
 
Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
 
Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….
 
You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.
 
It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html    , http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
     
“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf
 
Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.
 
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.
 
“It’s also to be noted that that Superior Court of Ontario heading of the Justice Campbell’s ruling concerning TACF et Al v. Kambulow stated it was a “commercial court” establishing the fact that Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a commerce suing Walter Kambulow as a commerce and it is not a church of Jesus Christ!   Mr. Kambulow requests Mr. Howard Winkler be immediately disbarred from the Court by your Honor for this motion or any other matter concerning Mr. Walter Kambulow as we cannot have in Canada Solicitors taking their liberty to openly lie to Superior Court Justices just to win their case and ignore seeing true justice come about!  It is a fact that Mr.. Kambulow has on numerous occasions through various means has brought to the attention of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Solicitors Aird & Berlis that Canada has strong hate laws and that “hate crimes and public remarks about a private individual Walter Kambulow” such as the one made on April 25, 2008 by the Vice President/Senior Pastor of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, Steve Long, are criminal:” Liars for sure!
 
 
I would not be so quick to try to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too. Well I do also ask bad pastors rightfully to repent.
 
Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too. I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.
 
A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter. But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open. I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too. this adultery is all so common and   was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.
 
I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too. None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?
 
I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too. When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not. I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too
 
I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.
 
and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

Do deal with this all, rightfully these bad Canadian pastors. Let us all know what you have done about it too. Even Reference: “Fraud, Embezzlement, Illegal Tax Free Benefits By The Executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship John Arnott and Steve Long .”

Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.       

>Todd Bentley is of the adversary. The best thing for everyone is for him to fold his tent quickly and leave the scene.
 
Ironically my own twin brother Walter Kambulow in total contrast to me holds also that Todd Bentley is totally a false prophet, and while I may agree with some of the reasons for this view, Todd has bad friends, bad associates too, and I also may not agree with the manner he Todd as well does things, even like selling things like books, tapes or candles, or whatever in any Church for since Jesus himself said my house is a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves.             
Not only do I mostly not agree with my brother or his views, approach too but I have said myself in love to my own brother that he himself, and yes also some of the others,  the bad pastors are false prophets, after all who better to know him too than his own brother as what he is really like.
 
But I do respect his and your right of free speech, having your own views, and even to be fully heard now as well..
 
(John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 
(John 15:23 KJV)  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
 
(1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
 
(1 John 2:11 KJV)  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
(1 John 3:15 KJV)  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
 
(1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
  
IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops, bad politicians
     
When I busy working as a professional engineer  I personally  had not time for or a real concept or  how bad the real world is with much too many liars, thugs, bullies, abusers, distorters, racists , thieves, now too.. and someone how next I could not help but encountered many of them, but by I had by now learned how to best deal with them.  It is a two fold approach, first the Public exposure, the pen is mightier than the sword, and a good name is worth more than any silver and gold. But next also there is rightful demand, a need  for their  termination of emeploybnment, their real prosecution of the guilty, bad persons.  Both of these approaches personally so works best, for everyone’s’ betterment. Ideally and rightfully I  do not hesitate to recommend any crook, bad minister, bad pastor, bad news reporter as well to be fired , terminated from his our her  job.  Sadly there are many people in this world who are hatred mongers, they have a false persistent agendas against some others, and they for many wrong reasons now wrongfully pursue much of their time in these matters now too foolishly and unwisely. Too often they the bad people firstly proclaim themselves as angels of lights, good Samaritans try to help others, but rather it too often seems they are merely trying to gain an advantage over others, and to promote themselves in some powerful, key job, economic, superior positions under these false agendas, disguise’s in all kinds of social groups now too, the religious, political, cultural, governmental. Now I really hate these types of snakes and I rightfully do not hesitate to expose them once I encounter them.
 
Now we all know that in north America we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be hard now as well.. Some people are now falsely abusing these right to promote a false war against a particular Christian group, the Pentecostal ones, or even the Catholic ones, etc. When I see this kind of unacceptable personal behavior I too do not accept it but do loudly object to it to all and do ask these hate mongrels be immediately fired, put in jail as well. No matter who they are now too. Even in regard to now ====
  
“Sarah Palin losing her sway over Christian voters
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/thesearch/default.aspx
 
The Sarah Palin effect, which brought evangelicals and other Christians rushing on to the Republican wagon when her nomination was announced, is now fading. In some cases fast.
 
A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin, who has deep Pentecostal roots in Alaska. White evangelicals, the crucial group that got George W. Bush into the White House in the past two elections, are beginning to edge away from the Republicans. Their support has dropped from 74 to 67 per cent in the past week or so.
Meanwhile, pollsters are beginning to predict that mainline Protestants, who tend to be more liberal than evangelicals, are moving firmly to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. The Democrat contender is now attracting 48 per cent of mainline Christians’ votes. As well, non-Hispanic Catholics have also switched and are now leaning more to Obama-Biden than McCain-Palin.
 
Go here for Pew’s easy-to-read poll http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=349
 
Comment by todd — October 26, 2008 @ 8:13 pm 

Thanks for your input Todd, this is the second time you posted back to me on my blog, unusual for a news reporter to comment on my blog too.http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/#comment-1746#comment-1746

>>A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin

My personal straight forward, honest, personal summation, experiences of Politics, dealing with you, the Vancouver Sun as well, and pollsters… they are statistically just liars, biased, people with hidden agendas.. and I told you that now in writing too many times too.. I rightfully have no respect for what you write still about Christians, evangelicals and so do many others now too.

what about the polls that show 30 percent of white people will also not vote for a black persons? racisms exists in the churches and police stations now too.

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now..

But the fact that Sarah Palin is getting now so much free publicity attention even from the liberals, democrats it all next simply means when I see the devil breathing on her back, she must be doing something really really good

Any possible Christian support of Obama is another liberal, democratic, news media false spins.. just like the devil often dos the same thing.. I read many of their emotional, gushy, lying, slanderous , sewage posts, opinions, but they are spins, lies and not facts and the US news media has lost loads of credibity, CNN especially the big liars, in their slanted election presentations, and that fact is not unnoticed.. but that was the same complaint thing they had often said about the Canadian News media, CBC, under the liberals who lost next.. wow!

And basically too no true, real practicing Christian would support the clearly anti Christ Obama.. who does supports abortions, gay marriages, alcohol as well..

My site statistics undeniably do show Sarah Palin is the most read topic in the last few months of over 100 different subjects, topics on my 6 related blogs, and that support I encounter is the tip of the iceberg only.. 80 percent of the posts read are about her.

Even the Canadian PM Stephen Harper, and the federal election. Bilden, McCain, Obama do not get 10 percent of her attention too.. the undeniably crooked Christian Missionary alliance church got just as much attention now, 10 percent  as they all did as well.. note this a new runner up in reading POPULARITY is the bad RCMP, bad Traffic cops of Alberta next.

As I also wrote often to thousands, Canadian politicians and news editors too now.. The truth about the ungodly Pentecostals bashings, wars against the Pentecostals on the net, even by the Vancouver Sun now too, or anyone else… is that I also still do not have to accept it or put up with it still too,  it is  an unacceptable perversity, human rights abuse, immoral. And it better stop otherwise I too will have to write to a lot more people about it too.. very much more..

A Catholic Priest had rightfully said that the professing Christian the now ex Liberal  Prime Minister Paul Martin should be excommunicated from the Catholic church also, FOR HIS SUPPORTING GAYS, GAY MARRIAGES, AND NEVER MIND HIM ALSO SUPPORTING ABORTION AND ALCOHOLISM, and while the Liberal spin doctors next  said this was a non critical issue, well it appears Paul Martin should have   been  excommunicated from the Church but  should have also been also excommunicated from the Liberal party for  HIM BEING ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS HIS PARTY LOST DEFEAT TO THE NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY AND IT NO LONGER CAN GET BACK  UP ON IT’S FEET AS A RESULT IT SEEMS TOO.

Finally in  Canada the LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA IS NOW SERIOUSLY RECOGNIZING, NOTICING THE EFFECT OF THE RELIGIOUS PERSON’S VOTES.. it is kind of  too late for them and others to do it too once they the religious right  had helped to form and to elect  the Reform Party to eliminate next the Progressive Conservative federally and also had next helped to form, elect the new Conservative Party to to defeat the Liberals..  

I have been detailing for decades the significant influence in Canada  that the Christian priests and pastors have on their congregation, others. Few people had wanted to admit it at all.

So the Federal   Liberals for their past support of gays, abortions are now paying a big  price for it .. they are even broke.. no money.. and had lost too many supporters.. they reaped what they had sowed..

Liberal G Kennedy in Ontario is the choice of the religious right as well. Thanks to even ex PM Paul Martin  who seems to be dreaming of a comeback too Canadian Catholics flee the Liberal Party  in droves too. 

“Catholics flee Liberals in droves  Catholics have always voted Liberal, until recently As Canada’s once-mighty Liberals consider their future, they might be advised to visit a local church-and not just to pray for the party. The religious vote, it seems, played a major role in their recent election defeat. According to new data from Angus Reid Strategies provided exclusively to Maclean’s, Catholics-who make up 44 per cent of Canada’s population and have preferred the Liberals for decades-are flocking to the Conservatives. Catholic voters back parties that are community-minded, says Andrew Grenville, Angus Reid’s chief research officer. And in 2006, for the first time, they shifted their support to the Tories. This year’s results confirm the trend: outside Quebec, 49 per cent of Catholics who attend church weekly voted Conservative, compared to just 38 per cent in 2004. Within Quebec, where upwards of 80 per cent of the population identifies as Catholic, the switch away from the Liberals is even more striking. In 2008, just 22 per cent of Quebec Catholics voted Liberal, compared to 56 per cent in 2004. “Looks like we have a new status quo,” Grenville says. It’s not just Catholics who’ve had a change of heart. Protestants, who make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties, but over the last four years, there’s been a big shift toward the Tories. In 2008, 64 per cent of church-going Protestants outside of Quebec chose the Conservatives, compared to 51 per cent in 2004. Voters who attend so-called conservative churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite, and Stephen Harper’s own Christian and Missionary Alliance) prefer the Tories in even greater numbers: a whopping three-quarters of them voted Conservative this year. What does it mean? “The Liberals have alienated their base, which shows how weak their support really is,” Grenville says, adding that he isn’t very optimistic about the party’s immediate future. “I can’t see Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff appealing to that vote either, which is in part why their prospects aren’t too bright.” 

 Too bad they choose next  the bad Stephen Harper who is really not any better than Paul Marin now was too. http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/11/24/catholics-flee-liberals-in-droves.

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

  
  
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.
 

BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS

All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

I corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

(Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

(Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to.. thank you

 
Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too? 

At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders.”Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeat- edly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Charac- terizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord. (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! “

“SUSAN LAZARUK and ANGUS LOTEN Montreal Gazette Just four people turned out for a rally against gay marriages in front of Paul Martin’s constituency office in LaSalle yesterday afternoon. Calling themselves “true Christians,” the tiny group joined hundreds of others across the country yesterday at what they called a national prayer vigil urging MPs to vote against same-sex marriage legislation. Organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people to more than 200 prayer rallies across Canada. “I have nothing against gay unions. What I don’t like is the prime minister telling us what to do in our churches,” said Paul Kambulow. Kambulow said he learned about the rallies, organized by a coalition of religious groups, over the Internet. “I believe in democracy and God plus one is a majority vote,” he said. Martin, who could not be reached for comment, was not in his office yesterday. Elsewhere in Montreal, similar prayer vigils also appeared to fizzle, as few people showed up at the riding offices of other federal MPs. Journalists outnumbered protesters in front of Justice Minister Martin Cauchon’s office. “Same-sex marriage is completely opposed to God, his principles and why he formed man and woman,” said Jackie Bourque, one of nine protesters, including a couple of children, who gathered on the steps of Cauchon’s office. “He did not form Adam and Steve, but Adam and Eve.”http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/

  

PS Only 4 persons had showed up to pray against the then Prime Minister Paul Martin MP and he Paul Martin unexpectedly, unbelievably shortly after that had lost his office of Prime Minister, and why did so many people show up in the first place? God only needed 2 persons to agree in prayer on this in Jesus name and he would have acted upon it as well. The prayer meetings had fizzled out? you now got to be joking.. they had did their job.

 

No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

 

Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicans, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.
 
Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
 
see also
 

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/?s=bad+Pentecostals etc

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/the-declining-economy-and-the-federal-elections-are-the-voters%e2%80%99-top-concern/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/unbeliveable/

 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-collection-of-christian-literature/

 
Visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start. 

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    (Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
     
    There are still much too many persons with a big bad mouth even  in my own related families, who got so used to wagging  their big bad  tongues, telling their lies about others, that next  they had falsely started to think they can and will get away with it for ever.. and they are next shocked when they are rightfully not only rebuked, but  fully exposed to all as to who they are really .. slanderers, liars and human rights abusers..

     

    Healing Evangelist Todd Bentley to Fold His Lakeland Tent

    Ledger ” Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.  LAKELAND | Evangelist Todd Bentley, whose unorthodox appearance and methods have attracted worldwide attention, will leave the long-running revival he has led here, it was announced Monday, although the local pastor who brought Bentley to Lakeland vows the revival will continue.

    Bentley’s last day leading the Florida Outpouring revival will be Aug. 23, said Lynne Breidenbach, revival spokesperson. The enormous white tents on the grounds of Sun n’ Fun Fly-in, where the revival has been held since early June, will be taken down after that night’s service.

    The Florida Outpouring began at Ignited Church of Lakeland on April 2, with Bentley, a 32-year-old Canadian, as a guest evangelist. Bentley was originally scheduled to lead services for a week, but when large crowds began flocking to the church, he agreed to stay on, and the revival has continued every day since then.

    Hundreds of thousands of people from across the United States and the world have attended the revival, which outgrew at least four venues before tents were set up at Sun n’ Fun. Early on, the services were streamed live over the Internet, and some observers have credited the Internet for the rapid growth of the revival.

    During the past several weeks, Bentley occasionally has been absent from the evening services, turning them over to guest evangelists or associates of his evangelistic ministry. He will return to lead the services tonight, but he already has scheduled appearances at revivals in Los Angeles; Louisville, Ky.; and Spokane, Wash., before Aug. 23.

    “He’s going to be here regularly, just not seven nights a week,” Breidenbach said.

    After leaving the Florida Outpouring, Bentley will conduct revivals overseas, including in the United Kingdom and Sudan, according to his ministry’s Web site.

    The Rev. Stephen Strader, pastor of Ignited Church, said Bentley made the decision to relinquish leadership of the revival last week.

    “He and I had both been praying about what God wants us to do,” Strader said. “There have been all sorts of rumors, but everything is OK. This has nothing to do with anything else.”

    Ignited Church will continue the revival, holding services every night after Bentley leaves, Strader said. And he is negotiating with other Lakeland churches to host services a few nights a week.

    “We’re ready to take over. We don’t know at this point what venues we’ll use,” he said. “Most services we’ll be able to handle here at Ignited. We do anticipate crowds dropping off after Todd leaves.”

    But Bentley may put in an occasional appearance. He plans to keep an office in Lakeland, in addition to his Fresh Fire Ministries headquarters in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Breidenbach said.

    One of the churches that might participate in ongoing services is Believers Fellowship, at which Jeff Garvin, a Bentley associate, has preached in recent weeks.

    “Stephen Strader is really the right man for this,” said the Rev. Wayne Friedt, pastor of Believers Fellowship. “He’s experienced, he’s prepared. They’ll still pack out Ignited Church.”

    Bentley, covered with tattoos and employing antics borrowed from professional wrestling, has proved controversial. The revival has drawn attention for its claims of numerous miraculous healings of serious illnesses. Bentley has also claimed that more than two dozen people have been raised from the dead as a result of prayers offered at the revival.

    Even some fellow Pentecostals have questioned whether Bentley’s revivals have placed enough emphasis on preaching and calls for repentance. A recent set of guidelines from the Assemblies of God, the largest predominantly white Pentecostal denomination in the United States, seemed to question the Florida Outpouring’s emphasis on miracles. Local pastors have expressed skepticism about exaggerated claims.

    Recent news reports have been unable to verify any of the claims of healing, although Strader said privacy concerns and laws forbidding the release of medical records have prevented revival officials from releasing complete information about the identities and conditions of people claiming to be healed.”

    When in contrast you do next read the many next rather distorted  but supposedly Christian, Baptist  versions of the same event  on the net  it  tends to read  and sounds like a soap opera,  biassed, cheap trash,  garbage posts.

    Funny eh.. And I thought all Christians were to be good, kind, loving persons.. clearly I was really wrong ehh..

    Revivals, the baptism of the Holy spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , tongues, Prophets, Apostles, miracle workers, have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, and  mainly in the fundamental religious circles even because many of these people, too often false critics  are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too.  They need to grow up spiritually as well.

    see also https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

    Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.

    >Todd Bentley is of the adversary. The best thing for everyone is for him to fold his tent quickly and leave the scene.
     
    Ironically my own twin brother Walter Kambulow in total contrast to me holds also that Todd Bentley is totally a false prophet, and while I may agree with some of the reasons for this view, Todd has bad friends, bad associates too, and I also may not agree with the manner he Todd as well does things, even like selling things like books, tapes or candles, or whatever in any Church for since Jesus himself said my house is a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves.        

    Not only do I mostly not agree with my brother or his views, approach too but I have said myself in love to my own brother that he himself, and yes also some of the others,  the bad pastors are false prophets, after all who better to know him too than his own brother as what he is really like.
      
    But I do respect his and your right of free speech, having your own views, and even to be fully heard now as well..
       
    (John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
     
    (John 15:23 KJV)  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
     
    (1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
     
    (1 John 2:11 KJV)  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
     
    (1 John 3:15 KJV)  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
     
    (1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
     
     
    Bashing Pentecostals Christians on the net even by fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too

    https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

    http://cid-74fd848f21ffb8e9.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Christian%20Literature

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/

    http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/does-god-speak-to-you/ 

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/posted-top-posts-and-pages-read/

     

     

    July 21, 2008

    Hidden agendas

      
    Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas. some not too well hidden even. Sadly some people they tend present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness for they tend to falsely have a hidden agenda, one of which is that often they want to get rich, and ?or live in the kingdom off self, to be falsely personally worshipped and still live in sin too..
     
    Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
     
     IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops
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    Which reminds me of the false silent treatment I next get from the bad crooked unloving rather pastors cause I refuse to do all they tell me that I should do..yes the continual silent treatment, the clear attempt at ignoring you, even for days or weeks is still a sign of their bullying, mental abuse of others. The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, but in alcoholics, and most often in  rednecks , religious fundamentals, evangelicals who promote hatred over love and now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully fighting for control over others. 
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    Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. All friendship, relationship, submission not just in marriages in real life now too is reciprocal, and unenforced.  We submit ourselves solely to God, to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.. who guides us, leads us into all truth. Jesus Christ is still the head of the Church, Churches! God’s chosen leaders still cannot force any one into submission, for all submission is even mutual, voluntarily, willingly, uneforceable and all leaders are to be exemplary now firstly too and not rather HERE mere commanders or dictators . And don’t try to tell me God has called you to be a leader.. show it, act like it first.. I would rightfully see a sermon practised over one merely preached to me and so would God.
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    I know that this forced submission emphasis, demands are a false attempts by these overly perverse, ambitious, crooked persons, bad pastors and bad religious persons now included too, for these persons and mere persons who do want now by such means to attempt to self prosper, to grow richer, to advance themselves over others still have have no good concerns for me. They are slave drivers. Slavery was abolished a long time ago too.Let me be very clear about that I am a slave to no man but to Jesus Christ himself, alone. I serve no man, especially any of the clearly foolish, perverted ones, and I take orders from no man, I do not have to do what they desire or try to command me to do at any time too. No matter if they still do wrongfully think otherwise too. I am still only God’s slave and not any man’s. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
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    (Jer 9:5 KJV) And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity. 6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.
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    (James 4:7 KJV) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
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     Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too serves everyone’s best interest.
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    Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce,and  before that it used to be the men.  These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing them slves and  the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, relaible, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical  liar too.
     
    The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person  who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.
     
    The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully  for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad  husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.
     
    The still mostly  liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality  she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.
     
    Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.  
     
    All of a sudden clearly new now  openly monsters here have arisen.  In reality  the wife is not the mostly   innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.
     
    All of these mostly immoral,  lying now people, pastors too often too, spouses, laywers, judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
      Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.)
     
     
    Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves very ones best interest… too often still missing in the PROFESSIONAL BODIES, EVEN IN THE RCMP, police   forces, ALL GOVERNMENTS  as well it seems too.

      “about the ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “ 

    THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
               
    THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
     
    First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and   proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.

    Next God is fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..

    I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.

    WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.

    THE POLICE, RCMP, MINISTERS, GOVERNMENT CONSULTANTS THESE DAYS, IMMIGRANT CONSULTANTS TOO  IT SEEMS , SEEM TO BE ANOTHER WORD FOR ABUSERS, THIEVES, LIARS CROOKS. SO WE ALL NEED TO DEAL WITH IT MORE EFFECTIVELY NOW TOO.

    I am often still surprised also to  how supposedly professing Christian Churches, persons do wrongfully still do deviate from what the Bible says, these often mere parrots tend to follow some of their past leaders doctrinal statements and not the Bible too.. I know that they do  have a hidden agenda and that they  are twisting their messages   to suit it.. thus not giving honest Biblical answers.
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    Sadly one of the typical evidence of false teaching is how overboard a teacher is by their inconsistencies with, distortions related to  the whole scripture… all of related Bible’s teaching too now that they  had now left out..
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    It is absurd for any person to even imply there is no sin, or  that God now, next punishes no one here on earth, or after for any of their sins,   or to say that that they the sinners are merely punishing themselves, God does have  higher laws too, the  laws he has designed with  negative consequences for their violations undeniably as well. The negative Consequences are not by chance, or unrelated to God. Even the new Testament still says people reap here on earth what they have sowed and God punishes people for their unrepentant  sins. The Bible also says that Adultery is God’s trap, punishment for those whom he is upset at.. and the same Bible says that God does still punishes some people even for their sins even if they have been forgiven as a deterrent even for them not to sin anymore. Yes there is still really unacceptable sins, negative consequences for sins and the liars now too, and yes there is a real hell as well. an  initial place of separation from God and a final place, a permanent separation from God. When you sin and you do not repent you start to be separated from God.. and you might end up there permanently by your own acts,  free will too.
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     (Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8  )  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
     
    About those too often professing Christian liars, rather Ostriches, who twist, or add on to the Bible with their hidden agendas who  play on words, change the Bible to suit their own views, desires, refer even to what the supposedly the Greek says.. they should note that I have the Holy Spirit to lead me and to guided me in all truth still.. they all really need to get back to the word of God(Isa 55:1)  Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. (Isa 55:2)  Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. (Isa 55:3)  Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. (Isa 55:6)  Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: (Isa 55:7)  Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isa 55:8)  For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. (Isa 55:9)  For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa 55:10)  For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: (Isa 55:11)  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.     
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    Jer 17:5 Thus says the Lord: Cursed [with great evil] is the strong man who trusts in {and} relies on frail man, making weak [human] flesh his arm, and whose mind {and} heart turn aside from the Lord.
    Jer 17:6 For he shall be like a shrub {or} a person naked and destitute in the desert; and he shall not see any good come, but shall dwell in the parched places in the wilderness, in an uninhabited salt land.
    Jer 17:7 [Most] blessed is the man who believes in, trusts in, {and} relies on the Lord, and whose hope {and} confidence the Lord is.
    Jer 17:8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters that spreads out its roots by the river; and it shall not see {and} fear when heat comes; but its leaf shall be green. It shall not be anxious {and} full of care in the year of drought, nor shall it cease yielding fruit.
    Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly perverse {and} corrupt and severely, mortally sick! Who can know it [perceive, understand, be acquainted with his own heart and mind]?
    Jer 17:10 I the Lord search the mind, I try the heart, even to give to every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.
    Jer 17:11 Like the partridge that gathers a brood which she did not hatch {and} sits on eggs which she has not laid, so is he who gets riches by unjust means {and} not by right. He will leave them, {or} they will leave him, in the midst of his days, and at his end he will be a fool.
    Jer 17:12 A glorious throne, set on high from the beginning, is the place of our sanctuary (the temple).
    Jer 17:13 O Lord, the Hope of Israel, all who forsake You shall be put to shame. They who depart from You {and} me [Your prophet] shall [disappear like] writing upon the ground, because they have forsaken the Lord, the Fountain of living waters.
    Jer 17:14 Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved, for You are my praise.
    Jer 17:15 Behold, they say to me, Where is the word of the Lord [predicting the disaster that you said would befall us]? Let it come now!
    Jer 17:16 But as for me, I have not sought to escape from being a shepherd after You, nor have I desired the woeful day [of judgment]; You know that. Whatever I said was spoken in Your presence {and} was from You.
    Jer 17:18 Let those be put to shame who persecute me, but let me not be put to shame; let them be dismayed, but let me not be dismayed. Bring on them the day of evil, and destroy them with double destruction.
    Jer 17:19 Thus said the Lord to me: Go and stand in the gate of the sons of the people, through which the kings of Judah enter and through which they go out, and also [stand] in all the gates of Jerusalem.
    Jer 17:23 Yet they would not listen {and} obey or incline their ears; but they stiffened their necks, that they might not hear and might not receive instruction.
    Jer 18:7 At one time I will suddenly speak concerning a nation or kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it;
    Jer 18:8 And if [the people of] that nation concerning which I have spoken turn from their evil, I will relent {and} reverse My decision concerning the evil that I thought to do to them.
    Jer 18:9 At another time I will suddenly speak concerning a nation or kingdom, that I will build up and plant it;
    Jer 18:10 And if they do evil in My sight, obeying not My voice, then I will regret {and} reverse My decision concerning the good with which I said I would benefit them.
    Jer 18:12 But they will say, That is in vain! For we will walk after our own devices, and we will each do as the stubbornness of his own evil heart dictates.
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    Jer 18:15 Yet My people have forgotten Me; they burn incense to false gods, they have been caused to stumble in their ways and in the ancient roads, to walk in bypaths, in a way not graded {and} built up [not on a highway],
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    So see also
     

    Abused. One of my most often written about subject on the net.. even whether it is verbal, mental, physical buses now too.. ironically some of the people claiming that someone else has been abusing them has been the major abuser themselves and that is why they are so conscious of the other persons supposedly abusing them.. another case of one’s need in dealing with the beam in one’s eye over the toothpick in the other persons eye.. often notice the opposition political party accusing the governing party of abuse when they now also have done the same thing ? One of the thing that has caught me by surprised were the proposed solutions for the abuse.. some were really unacceptable, such as accepting the abusers and merely forgiving them when God himself does not.. anyone doubt this, look at God’s Punishment of the Apostle Paul specially for his past abuse of the Christians now too. I know from observing others that one’s abusing a Christian can lead to one’s early death. I have found the best way not to get abused anymore is to rightfully not to associate with the abuser anymore, after exposing their abuse to them and others, till they really do repent of it, and a clearly Biblical approach according to the Bible  Book of Corinthians now too. They cannot hit you, abuse you if you are not there. As simple as that. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/abused-how-much-abuse-is-acceptable-none/

    Visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

    For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

    July 7, 2008

    Control Freaks

      
     
    Too often in life now to my own surprise I have been given orders, mandatory commandments by control freaks clearly too as to what I should do, like not make any negative internet posts too,  by some of the bad relatives of mine, bad news reporters, even bad cops, bad politicians and it often now made me wonder why did they   wrongfully still do  think that God has made them a slave master over me.. boy they were in for a rude awakening next when I refused to do what they had said.
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    By the way the most read posts of mine do tend to be the firstly personalized ones, where I do  clearly, loudly to all  and rightfully tell the truth, express  my own views.. such as
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    If you are a   Control freak you are not only still unrealistic, immature, immoral person  but you  may have a serious personality disorder.  Even if you are self employed or  work for Bell Sympatico.
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    You are a menace, plus a real danger to yourself and to others, for you are an abuser, a human rights violator too.
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    Having clearly now an exaggerated emphasis of your own self importance, being totally in  control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive and generally characterized by perfectionism, orderliness, workaholic tendencies, an inability to make commitments or to trust others and a real cover-up for your fear of having your own flaws exposed. You are exposed now still too.. 
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    All  these type of Persons who  believe they can protect themselves by staying in control of every aspect of their lives, or of others, including their relationships are idiots, fools, grossly in error, in need of professional help, good pastoral counseling.
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    I rightfully  believe in the right of free speech, mine, yours, everyone else’s and not solely yours.

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    Most all of you have had to contend with control freaks and they are found everywhere, in Corporations, at  home, in churches too.. These are those people who insist on having their way in all interactions with you. They wish to set the agenda and decide what it is you will do and when you will do it. You know who they are – they have a driving need to run the show and call the shots. Lurking within the fabric of the conversation is the clear threat that if you do not accede to their needs and demands, they will be unhappy.. and they will delete your post…

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    While in reality God has made us all equal, and GAVE US ALL MOUTHS WE CAN SPEAK WITH, EARS TO LISTEN, it seems some people, in churches, on the net, elsewhere, they  still wrongfully do think they are better than others, or want to dominate others, do try to give orders to others, do try to make rules for others  that they too often themselves do not follow too, they are in fact still bullies..  and now why is that? and who do they think they are now that they are so special? Mere fools. They mostly have a hidden agenda, they are falsely seeking fame, power, control, a position of prestige, for they are immoral slave drivers trying to walk on the back of others…

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    I really do love now all my wordpress blogs for they not only do  they allow me to exercise my own right of free speech, and allow my right to be heard by others too now 
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    I have already mentioned it to you rightfully and often too  before that I often get letters from some persons telling me what I can and cannot write on their sites, rather them wanting to write all of my posts too it seems. Many disturbed persons are now disturbed by the contents of my posts, so these  ostriches try to find a false excuse not to deal with it, and try to instead falsely delete it. The control freaks  emotional stakes includes their own identity and sense of well-being. Being in control gives them the temporary illusion and sense of calmness, a false feeling of superiority. and what fools they are when in reality they are so far from it now too.  
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    Control freaks or Bullies, abusers, wrongfully do cause  others stress so they can maintain a false sense of order. These people themselves firstly are are still riddled mostly with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath all that still too that supposedly perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of real unhappiness, unresolved guilt, disturbed person.

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    Certainly, it’s natural to want to be in control of your life. But when you have to be in control of the people around you as well, well you have gone crazy, become a fool, a demonic controlled person who can’t rest until you get your way and you are headed down a very bumpy ride, it is easier to try to control yourself, and impossible to control all the others.

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    (1 Cor 9:27 KJV)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

    Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

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    Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

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    Someone had the mistaken idea we all do still need to be kind to these bad wolves in sheep clothing, the perverse oppressors, these human rights abusers.. dream on.. them being put into jail is the sole kindness they rather do deserve.

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    Is 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

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    Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.

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    The need to control is almost always fueled by anxiety – though control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.

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    Is 57:4 Against whom do you make sport {and} take your delight? Against whom do you open wide your mouth and put out your tongue? Are you not yourselves the children of transgression, the offspring of deceit– 
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     So “Those who demand the most often give the least.”  Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns. In order to not feel degraded, humiliated and have your sense of self and self worth assaulted, you need to avoid being bulldozed by a controlling lover, boss or friend. When you are caught up in a truly destructive/controlling attachment, the best response may still also still be to expose them and call the police and walk out.
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    The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.
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     IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past too many bad cop, politicians too…
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    Here also is what I at least have found amazing about real life, the amount of evil, wrong doings does depend on the actual places you go to. In Canada I toonow have found some cities are worse over others. I have also found that some banking institutions, governmental offices  are better over others. The same truth applies to hospitals, schools or what ever. Needless to say all this depends on the local management styles, policies or actually too often the lack of it. 
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    Isn’t nice that according to the Canadian Charter of rights I too now can write to absolutely now any one I want to  still, all news editors, all politicians too,  and that if they  do not want to read my emails they  can just delete them too.. or they  can first take their  email of the net and stop requesting people to write to them. I would have thought that they too  knew that by now too.. funny.. What do any of them still think they or you are the only one who can tell, write and post the truths even on the net still? and the rest of us cannot?
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    It seems you cannot trust the federal or the provincial, municipal  governments in Canada still..  do  we all do these days too do keep on getting media revelations of abuses, corruptions, lies etc..   https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/toronto-councillor-adam-giambrone-lies/
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    I do also  have to say I was amazed so readily myself. How in my last few decades of Canadian experiences how quickly the too apparent crooks it seems are the first ones who threaten to or do  sue, even how they do try to shut up the truth from the public exposure, a subject that I  have often written about.. 
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    Our governments and the courts clearly are firstly very slow to enforce prosecutions of the really clearly bad persons such as the bad cops, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, thieves, tax payer’s money abusers    and undeniably as well but what the very apparent crooks can too readily sue the others.. ..  falsely can attempt to suppress, obstruct  justice from being carried out?
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    And there are  still too many for my liking in Canada  crooked professionals such as even crooked realtors, bad Real estate firms, bad Accountants, bad lawyers, bad Pastors and priests now too, bad cops, bad medical workers, bad civil and public servants, too many tax evaders, even too many  bad telecommunication, internet firms guilty of false, misleading advertising and customer abuses too such as Bell.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/the-way-normal-business-is-supposedly-being-carried-in-canada/
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    Hey I admit life has thrown me some really big surprises, things I had not expected to encounter:
    – One surprise for a start was as to how crooked most Canadian evangelical pastors often are, they are mostly still sinfully human, and they do need to become real practicing Christians firstly. .
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    NEXT I WONDERED WHY THE RELIGIOUS, CHURCH BOARD MEMBERS WERE SO DEAD OR SLEEPY HEADS, USELESS, FOR THEY DID NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THE BAD THINGS THEY TOO FOR CERTAINLY NOW SAW..  I next realized they had taken their positions not to make real positive changes but mostly to become more well like by others, to be more popular, to have more friends, even business contacts too, and thus if their making any of the needed changes can cause you to lose your popularity now, your friends and make a lot of enemies too, they do nothing good about it.
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    So if you want to make a big difference in life do not expect to be well liked, or very popular too. Nobody likes to be rebuked but As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Rev 3:19 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.  (Prov 27:6 KJV)
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    Now about the too many crooked churches who teach false doctrines and claim to be Christians, you now clearly, always for a START can tell who the false  professing Christians persons  they really are by their clear visible lack of love for others, and how quickly they can divorce the others who do not give into their pockets, or go along with their false demands now too,
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    – NOW THE CHURCHES THEMSELVES WERE, NOT BY THE LEAST, THE ONLY PLACES I ENCOUNTERED TOO MANY CROOKED PERVERSE PERSONS. ALSO JUST TRY THE BUSINESS WORLD, THE CIVIL AND PUBLIC SERVICES, GOVERNMENTS, THE POLICE INCLUDED NOW.. I was again really surprised here too as to why no one did basically about these perverse persons, false teachers, crooked persons, and I guess they were just as crooked as they were firstly. Lying, thieving, alcoholic, abusive  priests, pastors, Ministers, cops, LAWYERS, DOCTORS, PROFESSIONALS  who cannot even change themselves for the good  they are of no use to anyone as well. I do not have to accept any of those lying hypocrites who say to me you cannot judge me for I am a good person .. dream on.. I can. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/they-are-of-no-use-to-anyone-as-well/
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    – Next I could not but notice the many troublesome, perverse, meddlesome persons  I also do encounter, have encountered elsewhere  in real life, especially in family members, relatives,  but also in professionals, lawyers, associates, etc..
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    NOW I TEND TO WRITE FROM WHAT I KNOW IS TESTED, TRIED, AND TRUE.. SUCH AS ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD FOR SURE TOO.
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    Now I once worked at a poorly managed firm for a few years and wondered why the General Manager did nothing about it too.. and I next wondered how best to deal with it as well.. One day a few years later  they fired the General Manager and it next shook up the rest of this staff and everyone started to work harder, so I learned a great lessons, if you want to make changes, you have to start making  exemplary changes at the top, openly firing first the incompetent mangers.
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    And  I had learned now that public exposure, real negative exemplary consequences to the major bad persons works well.. the darkness hates the light and runs away once exposed..   I am not kind at all rightfully to any abusers, verbal ones, physical ones, etc. that I too do encounter..
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    Did you know that sibling rivalry, abuse is one of the most common forms of family violence? Siblings will use physical violence because they have learned it from their parents, a bad mother or a bad father,  or other adults. In fact, one study found that 76% of the children who were repeatedly abused by their parents also abused their siblings.. and their spouse next too http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/coping-effectively/
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    MY DENTIST EVEN TOLD ME THAT too many persons ARE  frustrated, angry at work, but they cannot get back at the people there who hurt them, so they come home and take it out falsely, abusively on their family members instead. Unacceptable too. 
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     Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that generally most people still are not to be trusted, they always do need to be supervised, and corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well. Here is what I know for sure in Canada that the proper policing, management , supervision human rights commissions are a real fact of life, in our society, in schools, life, in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too, and elsewhere, even on the net, for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws. Self regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians, pastors now as well.
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    You can fool most of the people most of the time, some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all the time.. nevertheless a good name is worth more than any silver or gold you acquire, and a bad name is disrespected even after the person’s death. One of the most surprising things to me in real life was to witness, experience. and many times now too, that the real bad, immoral con men, liars, thieves, fakers, imposters, pretenders do often like to be associated with a Christian Church .. and can hold positions as Pastors, elders now too..

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    One of many real life examples, from my childhood days in my local Church I had now encountered a fellow evangelical church attendee, who next years later was eventually arrested for possession of stolen property and for a time went to prison for it. It now next was of course a shock to hear next that this same person years later when he left prison had became an ordained evangelical Pastor. A shock cause there was no real evidence in fact that he had even changed.. Now decades later the same person now claimed to be a chaplain, visiting sailors on ships, and was supposedly conducting church services. The same person had become the owner of various store buildings and apartments, and he also owned and ran an antique shop as well. I next happened to rent one of the apartments from him as well. Upon which I clearly had discovered, often had witnessed that he still was a fake, for he now also was involved in tax evasions, welfare fraud as well. He used his position as a Church chaplain to buy medals, uniform, war souvenirs from visiting port sailors and next to resell them in his antique store for cash even. He in fact had not changed at all, he was still a crook.. So excuse me when now someone claims to me that such and such a person is now a really good person. In reality I rightfully next tend to first check it out firsthand, for rightfully I no longer believe what most people tell me

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    (Mat 5:13 KJV) Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

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    (Luke 6:43 KJV) For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

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    Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:12 PM
    Subject: Re:  churches in Canada
    Do you really also practice tax evasions too? is this why you find my writings so offensive? RSVP
    Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:42 PM
    I have asked nicely. Please take me off your list. Otherwise I will contact our security department and have you blocked. Thank you.
     
     > Isn’t nice that according to the Canadian  Charter of rights I can write to absolutely now any one I write still and that  if you do not want to read my emails you can just delete them too.. or you can  first take your email of the net and stop requesting people to write to you. I  would have thought that you knew that by now too.. funny.. What you think you  are the only one who can write and post the truths even on the net  still?
    One of the most corrupted institutions that I have found in Canada for decades excluding the police and governments  specifically were too many of the  churches even in Montreal. The reason  is very straight forward and it is that these institutions are not real practicing religious centers but rather nationalistic, cultural or social groups. I have shockingly heard people many people form these institutions say to me they have been going to church for 50 years or more, but they now do not believe that God exists, or it is not a proven fact there is any life after death. So why were they going there now still?
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    Undeniably on top of that here too money is the root of all evil, and so is the too common tax evasions and personal abuses, human rights violations   here in these same places too. Tax evasion is a fact of life, many persons here in these churches did, do work under the table, they do not declare all of their incomes. And if the pastor is a bad person so how can I next expect the members of his flock to be great ?
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