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September 7, 2009

Taiwanization or Borking

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“The Obama administration cannot demand accountability for serious violations in places like Sudan and Congo but let allies like Israel go free ” Sarah Leah Whitson, Human Rights Watch  
  

UN Finds Signs of War Crimes on Both Sides in Gaza New York Times –   A United Nations fact-finding mission investigating the three-week war in Gaza issued a lengthy, scathing report on Tuesday that concluded that both the Israeli military and Palestinian armed groups “committed actions amounting to war crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity.” …

  

**Jews, Israel for a start falsely, to try to get the support of others, even like to use the term anti Semite often, as a false diversion  even for a start,  as  they here supposedly want to say that they alone are not the objects of the hate, racial  attack but so are the others..  Although the term anti-Semitism has wide currency, it is regarded  as a misnomer, falsely now  implying discrimination against all Semites, including all Arabs and other peoples, who now firstly are not the clear targets of anti-Semitism today as it is usually the fact. It is not the past Jewish culture being attacked now too, but rather their presently specific now bad  personal acts, poor values associated with Israel, especially when they the Jews too often and  falsely, undeniably too now, the chosen ones,   tend to think they are now really superior to all other nations too and they can do what they want, for they can do no wrong. Rather this is not so in reality, they the Jews too can be held accountable for their too often now bad acts as well… even against the Palestinians. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
I do believe some persons are wrongfully deliberate racists and they should be punished for it. Many persons are unintentionally racists and often they see the false racist act of others and become accomplices rather in the matter by not speaking out against it. Some persecution in life is unavailable it seems. But nevertheless it is also true that if a person wants to have friend, they must work at it, they must show themselves friendly, and personal friendship costs some sacrifices too, friendship and respect are generally not automatic, they have to be earned it seems as well. But we must all have enforced human rights, the right to education, to live, to work, freedom to speak and to be heard, freedom of religion as well.
  
“The Taiwanization of Israel continues. A current contre temps at the Toronto International Film Festival (appropriately abbreviated TIFF) involves a filmmaker withdrawing his entry to protest festival organizers having invited filmmakers from “an apartheid regime” to exhibit theirs. The flick being pulled isn’t likely to set the world of cinema on fire, so in this sense the affair is a tempest in a teapot. However, the issue is tempestuous enough.”   http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/09/05/george-jonas-the-tortured-logic-of-israel-boycotters.aspx
 
and why would I have now even had expected anything different from this invalid distortion of the reality, truth from  the right winged National Post again?
 
Look who is coming to this year’s event anyway  http://www.cbc.ca/photogallery/arts/2520/
 
Toronto film festival accused of pushing Israeli propaganda. TORONTO — The filmmaker-led protest over the Toronto International Film Festival’s Tel Aviv spotlight is to include a press conference Sept. 10, on the festival’s opening day. A spokesman for about 50 filmmakers, academics and activists, including Jane Fonda and Danny Glover, who last week signed an open letter criticizing Toronto for selecting Tel Aviv for its inaugural city-to-city sidebar said details on the presser are being worked out. “Looking at modern, sophisticated Tel Aviv without also considering the city’s past and the realities of Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza strip, would be like rhapsodizing about the beauty and elegant lifestyles in white-only Cape Town or Johannesburg during apartheid without acknowledging the corresponding black townships of Khayelitsha and Soweto.” The controversy started last week when Canadian filmmaker John Greyson withdrew his film from the festival in protest.
    
The far Right, Jews, even Arabs, fundamentalists, others itself often still coerces  others who do not go along with them by “Borking” them.   “Taiwanizing”  means calumniating, ostracizing, excluding and hopefully ultimately de-legitimizing a country. Doing the same thing to a person is called “Borking”. Borking  is “to attack a person’s reputation and views unfairly,” includes the concerted attack on the challenger’s  character, background and philosophy.. Example to fire an honest government official in an attempt to prevent embarrassment to and exposure of a dishonest government officeholder who has conspired to commit high crimes, the 1973 unacceptable firing, massacre of Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox by Solicitor General Robert Bork, orchestrated by both  Bork and President Richard Nixon .  Conservative activists have been making the same action over and over again in regard to the so called liberals, leftists, news media  reporters: The borked opponents aren’t debated but merely  shut  down, censored,  their free speech denied, and often next immediately they are forcibly removed, kicked out, never allowed to be discussed again too by anyone,  and hopefully insuring their person and his views being totally excluded from the rest of the local group, community. The fact this is too often practiced in too many evangelical churches of all places is astounding. The real Irony and hypocrisy is the right wing often claim they rather now are being Borked even while they are Borking the others. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
  
As a professional, University graduate I now  was always solely responsible for my work output, no one told me how to do it too, I had always worked on my own with minimum supervision. I step into a church, in many or most churches I am treated as if I am now in pre school generally, I am immediately given a whole bunch of rules, even as to where I can sit, what I can wear, how much money I should give to the church, what I can do and cannot do etc.. mostly a totally demonic, controlling, dominating environment, so much so that  I rightfully often think that  the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ themselves are not allowed to express themselves, not given freedom to manifest themselves too. If I dare to openly question anything I  am threatened with police action and immediate church dismissal too. Forget about being showed mutual respect in this caged circus rather. This is all just perversity and not freedom in Christ.  Thank God that not all churches now are like this.
 
       
More right winged Borking. Only Men can still wear offensive clothing. More hypocrisy, double standards too. While a Sudan woman is spared a flogging for wearing trousers.. Allah is great, and obviously hates trousers.  But it wasn’t that long ago women here in Canada had to deal with such nonsense too. Good thing they don’t impose these strict rules in WalMarts around the world for the people now wearing clearly offensive clothing. There would have to be a  really wide  ‘flogging aisle”. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/07/sudan-trousers-flogging007.html 
 

Sudanese ‘trousers woman’ jailed    A Sudanese woman has been jailed for a month after refusing to pay a fine for “dressing indecently” by wearing trousers, her lawyers say. 

 

Sudanese woman jailed in trouser case freed Reuters –   KHARTOUM, Sept 8 (Reuters) – A Sudanese woman jailed for wearing trousers deemed indecent in a landmark court case was freed on Tuesday after the country’s journalists’ union paid a $200 fine on her behalf, the head of the media body … 

What Robert Bork the same person who Borked others himself next got Borked? Why should anyone next be surprised? Supposedly the Democrats savaged Ronald Reagan’s nominee, the Appeals Court judge Robert H. Bork,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork  

Meanwhile in JERUSALEM — Israel officially approved the construction of hundreds of new homes in the West Bank, the Defense Ministry said Monday, deepening an already unprecedented rift with the U.S. over Israeli settlement expansion.  The construction is the first approved by the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is under heavy U.S. pressure to freeze all settlement activity on captured lands claimed by the Palestinians for a future state. Israel also plans to complete an additional 2,500 homes already under way. The bad way Israel treats Palestinians, kills others today is for  me in reality not much different over  the way the Jews  were treated by the Nazis. This is not loving your neighbour as yourself for sure.
 
 
All across Canada and in the United States, there is an organized campaign to suppress criticism of Israeli policies toward the Palestinians. http://intifada-palestine.com/2009/09/01/is-it-anti-semitic-to-defend-palestinian-human-rights/

August 8, 2009

It seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely anti-Semitism again

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An ugly unacceptable truth world wide  is that anyone who dares criticize Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians can expect to be subjected to  false, nasty accusations of “anti-Semitism” and other attack, slander by the Jews that are meant to discredit or to make the target politically untouchable.
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There is no New Testament substantiation by God, Jesus, Apostles for Israel’s  right to return to the promised land  in 1948 after God himself made Israel, Jerusalem  desolate and dispersed them world wide in  70 ad.
https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2015/07/19/there-is-no-new-testament-substation-by-god-jessus-apostles-for-israel-right-to-return-to-the-promised-land-in-1948/
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Hate speech today often  means anything the Jews firstly  hate to hear, especially the truth about themselves.. even the truth as to   when  anti-Semitism is  not anti-Semitism! When it’s Jewish paranoia is one answer. When it’s criticism of Israel is another.  Such as-
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The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability.
1- Israel currently has 262 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.
2- The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 22.5% and 41% in Gaza.
3- 133 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 2,060 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000
4 -1,195 Israelis and at least 9,826 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.
5- 11,018 Israelis and 71,841 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.
6 – During Fiscal Year 2014, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.5 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians.
7 – Israel has been targeted by at least 77 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by 1
8 – 0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 6,500 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.
9- 0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and at least 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
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We all have a right to  question even the legitimacy and founding principles of Israel;  to  blame that inculpates the Israeli government and army at every  wrong turn, even  accusing them of massacre,   of genocide, comparing them to the Nazis and Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto;  of  willful sadism, of wallowing in slaughter, and  all of those sinister  acts of theirs . This  fair criticism, in  that  the intents, or  proposes , advocates  no physical harm to Jews under any circumstances,  is not to  be confused with anti-Semitism,
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In landmark case on Israel and Jewish identity, 25 March 2013  British tribunal says anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, The case involved a suit brought against an academic union by an Israel-supporting professor who wanted the tribunal to condemn anti-Israel speech as anti-Semitism because, he claimed, an affinity to Israel was an intrinsic part of his and others’ Jewish identity. The case was to have been the culmination of 11 years of pro-Israel activism by [Ronnie] Fraser, a mathematics lecturer who had been fighting against what he saw as a virulently anti-Israel tide, with a distinct tinge of anti-Semitism, rising in the union to which he belongs..
Alongside him was Anthony Julius, one of the most prominent Jewish lawyers in Britain and a tireless opponent of anti-Semitism. Supporting the two were a cast of witnesses including Jewish and sympathetic non-Jewish activists, academics and politicians….Was the Israeli government involved too? A senior official at Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs recently revealed that, “over the last six months Israel has taken on two (court) cases in partnership with UK Jewry” in fighting Boycott Divestment Sanctions (BDS). This very likely includes Fraser’s case,

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The lawsuit was backed both financially and in terms of considerable research resources by organizations linked to the central British Jewry leadership forums, the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Jewish Leadership Council.

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The defendants also had their own Jewish supporters. Fifty Jewish UCU [University and College Union] members signed an open letter praising their union and denying that there was any sort of institutional anti-Semitism within its ranks.

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An Employment Tribunal has found in favour of UCU on all ten complaints of harassment brought by a UCU member who opposed the union’s policy on Palestine.
The claimant had been supported in his claim by leading lawyer Anthony Julius. In giving their reasoning the Tribunal stated that ‘the proceedings are dismissed in their totality’ and ‘we greatly regret that the case was ever brought. At heart it represents an impermissible attempt to achieve a political end by litigious means.’
The Tribunal also described themselves as troubled by the implications of the claim, stating that ‘underlying it we sense a worrying disregard for pluralism, tolerance and freedom of expression, principles which the courts and tribunals are, and must be, vigilant to protect’.

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While witnesses for UCU were described in the tribunal’s decision as ‘careful and accurate’, some witnesses for the claimant were described as appearing to ‘misunderstand the nature of the proceedings and more disposed to score points or play to the gallery rather than providing straightforward answers to the clear questions put to them’.

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John Mann MP and former MP Denis MacShane were collectively described as giving ‘glib evidence, while testimony of another key witness for the claimant was described as ‘extraordinarily arrogant but also disturbing’.

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UCU general secretary Sally Hunt said: ‘I am delighted that the Tribunal has made such a clear and overwhelming judgement in UCU’s favour. There are many different views within UCU and wider society about Israel and Palestine and this decision upholds our and others’ right to freedom of expression and to continue to properly debate these and other difficult questions.

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‘This has been an extremely difficult period for the UCU staff and members involved in defending the union’s position and I am especially pleased therefore that the Tribunal found our witnesses to be careful and accurate.

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‘The claimant, while unsuccessful, of course had the right to challenge the union in the courts and will be treated with respect within the union as will his views on this question. Now that a decision has been made I hope in turn that he, and others who share his views, will play an active part in the union and its debates rather than seek recourse to the law.

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‘For our part, UCU will look at our own processes to see if improvements can be made in line with the advice given to us within the decision. We remain opposed to discrimination of any kind including anti-Semitism and we will work with energy and determination with all who will work with us to oppose it in the workplace and society at large.’

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The tribunal wrote in its judgment that “a belief in the Zionist project or an attachment to Israel or any similar sentiment cannot amount to a protected characteristic. It is not intrinsically a part of Jewishness.”  The Tribunal threw all ten complaints out, most of them because Fraser was found not being harassed (he was merely disappointed — as can happen in politics, or he was not even related to (!) or present at (!) the act of supposed harassment). The complaints were judged to be political discussion in a open society. Not a single fact of anti-Semitism was established. The court (Tribunal) explicitly says that those “Jewish” ties to Israel are not part of Jewish religion or race, so they are not protected by harassment law or discrimination law. They are part of political (free) speech.

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Others have said ” The State of Israel and its illegal activities outside of its Internationally recognized sovereign extent are surely the most divisive issues to have ever been driven between the Jewish people. That the state of the Jewish people and the Zionist movement tries at every step to circumvent and then ignores the Laws, UN Charter and relative conventions which were adopted in large part because of the treatment of Jews under the Nazi regime, should have been setting off VERY LOUD alarm bells long ago  That it hasn’t is sadly reminiscent of the influence the Nazis had over the people of Germany”. ” This kind of exposure , with all of the effort Zionism has put into this case for so little reward, raises serious questions about the default Zionist business model. It’s not enough to silence people, destroy their careers or scream antisemitism . There is just too much bad news coming out of Israel for the old crap to work any longer”. ” The insanity of smearing good people with anti Semitism has ruined the Jewish peoples claims to unfairness, and no longer means all that much. It used to. Not any more. ” ” Do these very foolish people realize, or perhaps they do and do not care, what something so very stupid and silly such as this would mean in the future? You could presumably have black folks claiming it’s racist to speak about the state of countries in Africa, people of Irish ancestry, claiming the same about criticism of Ireland, and on and on.  ”

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and do note this true contradiction between Zionism and Judaism.  ” The Talmud says that ever since the beginning of exile, Jews are forbidden to conquer the Holy Land, or to fight wars against the non-Jewish nations. They are also forbidden to take physical action toward their redemption. Thus, according to Jewish law a Jewish state is forbidden to exist. It must be dismantled and the land must be ruled by a non-Jewish government. ”
“Zionists are unmasked as they hide behind the facade of Judaism & true torah Jews. Zionism has no place in a free civil society & in the world of humanity. The time for open debate is now or never! “”An essential motive of Zionism from its beginning was a fierce desire to end the centuries of Jewish weakness, to show the world that Jews would no longer be pushed around, that they’d fight back and prove themselves tougher than their enemies. There was more to Zionism than that. But the “pride through strength” piece came to dominate the whole project. Hence the massive Israeli military machine with its nuclear arsenal.But you can’t prove that you’re stronger than your enemies unless you’ve also got enemies — or at least believe you’ve got enemies — to fight against. So there has to be a myth of Israel’s insecurity, fueled by an image of vicious anti-semites lurking somewhere out there, for Zionism to work” Israel creates  it’s own enemies of it’s own choosing s still..
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GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA  AND  TODAY IS 2012 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST  
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Today’s Jews are are too quick to associate  with the Promised Land of Joshua’s time. However, as per the conditions of the Bible , the New Testament and even  the establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations in 1948 it now raises many valid questions about that relationship validity.   Still the state of Israel is big enough for both the  Jews and Muslims to live together in peace too. So do all grow up and smarten up up. (Psa 133:1 KJV)    Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
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Lasting peace can olny occur by all accepting our God Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior Love God, love others, be not drunk with wine, be filled with the Holy Spirit, do not lie or steal.
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Proverbs 14:25, “A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.”
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Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
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NOW WHY WOULD I SPEND SO MUCH TIME TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ZIONISM.. WELL IT IS BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEMONIC DECEPTION BEING PUT ON THE CHURCH EVEN TODAY.
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Zionism is based on a total misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with God- Jehovah. If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land. And so they next lost their promised  land.. This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc.;
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I  also do not  believe rightfully that Israel today is the fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy, because the Lord promised to restore Israel in righteousness (Hosea 10:12). Israel went into spiritual adultery, idolatry. God raised up Hosea to pronounce judgment on them. All we are seeing in the Middle East today is hatred, war killings and a deadlock concerning the location of the temple mount (whom Muslims now control).   The Jews are at the Weeping Wall today; that’s as far as they’ve got. Jews today are still not looking for their Redeemer, the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Sadly, Judaism still denies Christ as do the Muslims and many others.
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Israel today is based much on the stolen land from others.. When the Government of Israel committed    human rights violations, the Old testament prophets openly condemned them, 2 Kings 6:21 –23, 2 Chronicles 28:9-11, Nehemiah 5:7-11, Jeremiah 34:11-17, Amos 2:6-7, etc.
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Nowadays, the Government of Israel commits   human rights violations . Nevertheless, most fundamentalists Christians falsely would never dream of doing such a thing – it is against their false religion. They either deny that such violations take place, or else  endorse and /or commend such violations. They have been deiced,  seduced,  lied too and even   that God will smite any of us if we disagree with anything that Israel does. The lawgiver Moses commanded the Hebrews that they should not oppress the strangers or non-Jews in their lands, Exodus 12:49, 22:21, 23:9, Leviticus 19:33-34, 25:35, Deuteronomy 10:18-19, 23:7, 24:17, 27:19. That message, of course, is not mentioned today – it is considered “politically incorrect.”
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When King Ahab and Queen Jezebel unjustly expropriated the vineyard of Naboth, the prophet Elijah publicly denounced the kind for this unjust action, 1 Kings 21:17-24, Jehu cited this official action of the government of Israel against Naboth as justification for overthrowing that government, 2 Kings 9:25-26.  But nowadays, when the Israeli government expropriates the lands and properties of Palestinians without compensation, the Zionists falsely  look the other way and do, say  nothing about it for  supposedly it is better for Jewish and Arab children of Abraham to keep on killing each other over the land  while the Zionistic evangelical Hirelings , profiteers falsely makes loads of money become millionaires, form  the sales of their Armageddon books, videos that are peddled on the televangelists’ broadcasts and web-sites.
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“The eagerness of too many false Zionistic  televangelists, to get a war going in the Middle East  along with their vociferous Arab-bashing and Muslim-baiting hating , must be considered in context of their belief in the infamous Armageddon Theology, which insists that 2/3 of all the Jewswill die.”
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Just do listen again  to these hypocritical American evangelical ministers who proclaim falsely their deep love for Israel but nevertheless eagerly await the coming apocalyptic battles on Israel’s soil that will be so terrible that the dry river bed will, they predict, fill with rivers of blood.  These war mongers, in 1994 the Christian Zionist leaders, including Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed, publicly condemned the policies of the Israeli government under Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who was seeking a peace settlement with the Palestinians.. Many modern-day Israelis and other Jews are well aware of the fact that the Christian Zionists believe, based on a mistaken interpretation of Zechariah 13:8, that there must be a devastating war in the Middle East in which two-thirds of all the Jews will be slaughtered.
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It is thus too commonly understood that the Christian Zionists do not really care about what is best for the Jews after all, as evidenced by their constant lobbying efforts to stir up World War III in the Middle East. Where million Jews may wind up dead. Christian Zionism is a movement that claims to be based on the Bible, but as we have seen, it is actually contrary to what the Bible teaches. All Christians should repudiate Zionism and should work for a peace settlement in the Middle East that will be of mutual benefit to Abraham’s Jewish and Arab children in Palestine.;
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Much of the Zionistic  scriptural emphasis  in the Middle East today is based on the promise that God made to Abraham in Genesis 12:3, “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” But the first half of this verse is a promise that God made to just one person, Abraham. The original Hebrew is in the second person singular, meaning that God is speaking only to Abraham. The King James Version correctly reflects this grammatical construction, since “thee” is singular, referring only to one person, whereas “ye” would refer to multiple persons. This Abrahamic promise is fulfilled in Jesus next now ..This was the promise that crowned all the rest; in the whole Bible, for the Bible is all about the coming of Jesus Christ to redeem all mankind from death due to sin, the Abrahamic promise   it points to the Messiah, in whom ‘all the promises are yea and amen.’ Note,  Jesus Christ undeniably is the great blessing of the world, the greatest that ever the world was. is blessed with.
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Zionists often misquote the verse, “in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed” saying it refers to “blessing Israel,” but Israel is not mentioned in the verse. When it is pointed out that the various Arabs nations, including Palestine, are also descended from Abraham, the Christian Zionists say that the promise of Genesis 12:3 applies only to the descendants of Isaac (Of course, there is no mention of even Isaac in Genesis 12:3
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Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The   answer is no. And just as many people convert to Judaism, and become Jews, those who convert out of Judaism are no longer Jews.  You are a Messianic Jew? But there really is no such thing in the whole New testament.. all the Jews became Christians..  “Why do most Jews, Messianic  Jews  reject Jesus?”  The Answer: What   do they do with Jesus Christ?   These Jews rejected Jesus Christ  because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of  the world. Dream on.. https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/why-do-most-jews-messianic-jews-reject-jesus-choose-yeshua-instead/
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That ‘Messianics’  are considered and accepted as Jews is unheard of. A Jew who believes in Jesus as his/her “Lord and Savior” has become a Christian and is no longer a Jew. The so called Christian Jews  that call themselves ‘Messianic Jews’ whose faith is totally alien to the Jewish faith, or Christian faith and members of these groups who were born to Jewish parents have a status of apostates who removed themselves from the Jewish Nation. So long as one remains a Christian, one is no longer a Jew. But if one wishes to return to Judaism, then one is no longer a Christian . The two faiths of Judaism and Christianity are simply mutually exclusive, and they are not compatible. No Jews or non Jews never the less should still continue to observe the Torah after embracing Jesus as their Messiah. The existence of Messianic Jews makes both Jews and mainline Protestants uneasy, if not angry, betrayed as they tend to be really an antichrist, unkind, offensive, full of hatred, bitterness.
https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/you-are-a-messianc-jew/
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The New Testament teaches that Christians are to focus on the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly one, John 4:21, Galatians 4:24-28, Hebrews 12:18-24. We are told in Hebrews 11:13-16 that even Abraham has no further interest in a restored Jewish state on earth, because he is in a much better place in heaven.
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Will any Unsaved Jews Enter the “Future” Promised Land? No, absolutely not. No unsaved Jew will ever enjoy the splendors of the future Promised Land… “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” —Romans 2:28,29
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Clearly, the Word of God teaches that “Jew” in the Bible, as regards all the future promises to Israel, refers ONLY to born-again Christian Jews. It is the circumcision of the inward heart, and not the outward flesh, that makes one a Jew in God’s eyes. No unconverted Jew can ever claim the promise of God concerning Palestine, unless he first BELIEVES on Jesus Christ as his personal Messiah.;   “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” —Galatians 3:29
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The Bible teaches that God’s promises were not made to all Jews; but only to saved Jews…
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“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” —Galatians 3:16
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“So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.” —Galatians 3:9
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How tragic that most Jews today have been blinded by sinful pride and false religion, that they reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah. Only by faith in Jesus Christ can any Jew claim the promise of the future Promised Land. All unbelievers, whether Gentile or Jew, will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:11-15).;
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* “Is the Nation of Israel Today God’s Doing?  No. The Illuminati (via the United Nations) put Israel back on the map as a nation in 1948. The Illuminati is an elite group of occult members, who own the largest banks (e.g., the Rothschild banking cartel) and control the world today through The Council On Foreign Relations. Interestingly, the United Nations was created by The Council On Foreign Relations. Their admitted goal is a New World Order, i.e., a Global Godless Totalitarian Communist Police State. The League Of Nations failed to receive congressional support after World War I, so the globalists caused World War II to get their way (and they did). The UN was born.
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World Domination (aka, the New World Order) has been in the works for centuries. In fact, evidence can be traced back to the tower and city of Babel in Genesis 11:7-9, when men attempted to unite together in rebellion against God. If the Lord hadn’t stopped them, the Antichrist would have come then I believe. Today, Babel is being continued as the nations of the world are tearing down the racial, language and geographical boundaries which God had established in Genesis 11:7-9 to protect humanity from soon corruption. Modern technology is making the world a smaller place to live each day.
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The “Star of David” (the national symbol for Israel today) is a demonic symbol not found in the Scriptures. This symbol is seen in star formation above the eagle on back of every U.S. one-dollar bill, showing that America is under the control of elite Illuminati Jews via Freemasonry. Sound crazy? Take a look at this. The so-called Star of David is two pyramids, one inverted.;“

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer’s%20Corner/Doctrines/israel.htm
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PS: Is the Sabbath Day Still Valid Today?  No. The Sabbath was a ceremonial law given only to a specific people (the Jews), during a specific time period (the Old Testament), in a specific region (Palestine). The Sabbath was an object lesson for the Jews, picturing the coming Messiah in Whom believers rest for salvation. When men cease from their self-righteous labors, and rest upon the redeeming blood sacrifice of the Son of God, they are saved (1st Peter 1:18,19). Colossians 2:14-17 plainly teach that the Old Testament ceremonial laws are no longer applicable concerning Christians or Jews… “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17 — Note: All Scriptures are quoted from the trustworthy King James Bible).
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Jesus is our Sabbath today, in Whom we completely rest for salvation. God required the death penalty in the Old Testament for a man who  merely picked up some sticks on the sabbath Day (likely to make a fire). Why did God require the man’s death? It is because picking up sticks represents Human Effort in salvation, which is a road to Hell. The Sabbath represents resting solely in Christ Jesus for salvation. Adding even one work negates, corrupts and cancels God’s free gift of grace. Romans 3:20 warns that no flesh can be justified by the keeping of the Law of God. Salvation is by faith alone!
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Today we honor the “Lord’s Day” on Sunday, the first day of the week, when Jesus rose from the dead; but this is voluntary and not obligatory. It is grace and not law. It was a much better time in America when stores and shops all drew down their shades on Sunday to prevent window shopping. People used to honor the Lord. We’ve lost our nation today because we have forsaken the God of the Bible.;
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America is not specifically named, although dozens of biblical passages refer to God’s final dealings with “all the nations.” In Haggai 2:7, for example, the Lord foretold through the Hebrew prophet that He would “shake all nations” in the last days. And all people too..
There is a  renewed interest in end-time prophecies, sponsored  by people who hate the Church, Christians, sponsored by  people like the Jews and the false Judiazers now too, with a false emphasis that  America is now  in permanent decline—that the days of what has been called the American age are numbered, and if we don’t change course, they are coming to an end,” says Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, the author of The Harbinger and senior rabbi at the nation’s largest messianic congregation, the Beth Israel Worship Center in Wayne, N.J. New York Times best-selling author Joel C. Rosenberg tells audiences that America isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy Rosenberg outlines several potential scenarios he believes could explain why the United States isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy: The nation—facing $16 trillion in federal debt and $120 trillion in total unfunded obligations—could implode economically, he hypothesizes. Perhaps the U.S. is hit by a surprise nuclear or military attack, blind-sided by a series of terrorist attacks or devastated by an unprecedented spate of natural disasters.

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Some say the same nine harbingers of divine judgment that preceded the destruction of Israel 2,700 years ago are now manifesting in America.   America never had a False religion the Jews had replaced  with  firstly. Funny how most Jews cannot see that they are already in Hell even,, and next will continue to hell..

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Some absurdly say that America could suddenly lose tens of millions of people in the rapture, triggering any number of cataclysmic events but there will even be no rapture.. but this is a reality still  that you should note God who is Jesus Christ  destroyed the Jewish Temple 3 times already and he killed  millions of Jews in the process and he will do it again with the new rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. I guess they too just never learn to obey God, but still do their own thing..
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Do see also  http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/did-you-also-know-these-truths/
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I really get sick every time I hear preachers such as John Hagee and Jerry Falwell demonize the Arab people, while glorifying the Jews.  John Hagee’s mother is a Jew

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/
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Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather

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Genesis 12:3, “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

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The first half of this verse is a promise that God made to just one person, Abraham. The original Hebrew is in the second person singular, meaning that God is speaking only to Abraham. The King James Version correctly reflects this grammatical construction, since “thee” is singular, referring only to one person, whereas “ye” would refer to multiple persons. Now through Abraham Jesus Christ next is the great blessing of the world, earth  ever the was blessed with as confirmed in the New Testament.
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Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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It can be  is pointed out that the various Arabs nations, including Palestine, are also descended from Abraham, and Israel is not mentioned in the verse either.
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Yes in Genesis 21:13, 17-18 God also bestows His blessing on Ishmael and his descendants, saying, “For I will make him a great nation.” So now is there also  a command for political support of the   modern Arab nations.  And we must to also start up a “Christian Ishmaelist” movement to lobby for Arab national greatness?
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It must be   pointed out that even in Old Testament times, when past Israel was a nation specially chosen by, and ruled over by, God, He did not expect even all of His people to support and endorse all actions of the governments of Israel.  So the God of the Bible does not  really demand that anyone must support all actions and activities of the Jews, Israeli Government, when even if those actions violate God’s moral standards of righteousness. The Jewish  lawgiver Moses commanded also only the   Hebrews that they should not oppress the strangers or non-Jews in their lands, Exodus 12:49, 22:21, 23:9, Leviticus 19:33-34, 25:35, Deuteronomy 10:18-19, 23:7, 24:17, 27:19. When King Ahab and Queen Jezebel unjustly expropriated the vineyard of Naboth, the prophet Elijah publicly denounced the kind for this unjust action, 1 Kings 21:17-24, Jehu cited this official action of the government of Israel against Naboth as justification for overthrowing that government, 2 Kings 9:25-26.; But this falsely is not being applied by the Jews of Israel Today..
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Now the liars, the Zionist preachers, would falsely try now rather to say that this verse applies not just to Abraham, but also to Abraham’s descendants, specifically to the Jews,  the state of Israel, and that  it also means that all persons, Christians as individuals, and America too as a nation, are bound to provide unquestioning support, financial and otherwise, to the state of Israel. If not   then God will Punish them.. so what we are to give total, unquestioned support to some of Abraham’s children, while others of Abraham’s children are to be hated, persecuted, ethnically cleansed, even though  yet in the whole new Testament there is no such confirmation, commandment by Jesus or any of the Apostles.. Rather in the New testament it is clearly the Jews, Israel that are defined now still as being cursed.. and only all the Christians all blessed in Jesus instead.
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Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
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Galatians 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
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Clearly God’s Old testament  inspired prophets, and the New testament Apostles, Prophets,  did not meet the  Zionist false standard of blind, unquestioning support for Israel. And as it turns out, today’s Zionists do not meet God’s standard, either. It is hypocritical for C  Zionists to threaten the wrath of God against those who express disagreement with  the Israeli government when they have now rather done the same thing themselves with God’s standards, violate them.
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Now as per the lies of the false Zionism, Christian Zionism Movement;  who is really “blessing Israel;” those persons  who are working for peace in the Middle East, or those false persons with a hidden agenda who are agitating for a war designed next to get two-thirds of all Jews wiped out
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ZIONISM IS THE REAL ENEMY OF ALL JEWS..
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Jews still will always be far from any right to   the promised land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS,  even the blood shed of many others that  they have killed  from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV)  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39   For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!
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“The Inheritance of Abraham: A Report on the Promised Land,”  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/11/12/the-inheritance-of-abraham-a-report-on-the-promised-land/
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Canadian Jews falsely object to the truth being displayed ..
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/canadian-jews-falsey-object-to-the-truth-being-displayed/
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I’m getting fed up with the way some groups equate even the slightest criticism of Israeli state policy with anti-semitism.
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There’s a big difference between believing in the right of self-determination and sovereignty for ALL people and being a racist bigot.
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Too bad that too many institutions don’t seem to know the difference and cave every time the antisemitism card is played. Can anyone do or say anything that disagrees with mighty Israel without being labelled “anti-semitic”?? The all-powerful “anti-Semitism” card has again been played against me the force of a blunt object; for when these Jewish patriots don’t like what I say they start their personal slanders,  personal;  attacks, name calling against me.
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I know that the Jews were once  “God’s Chosen People” and the rest of us we still are just whatever… but when Israel behaves like a violent psychopathic bully and someone mentions it that does NOT make them anti-Semitic.  ” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so.
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I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ”  THEY BOTH FALSELY DO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW OVER LOVE  YOUR NEIGHBOUR  TOO!
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And for the record, their troubled history is not a license for them to act with impunity now.   “Church’s reputation seen at risk” for criticizing Israel !! Is this a secular country or a Jewish theocracy? If the church back down because of the threat from Jewish then all who are at the meeting should question their own soul if they are messenger of god or cowards who can be bullied to save their self-interest. Nobody should tell them what to do if they believe it is the right thing to do then they have to do it.
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THE PROPHET MOSES HIMSELF WAS NOW DENIED ENTRANCE TO THE PROMISED LAND FOR HIS OWN SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE NOW EVEN IN STRIKING THE ROCK TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE AS HE WAS COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO SO. Next SO IS THE VALID, LEGITIMATE PRESENT ENTRANCE OF THE JEWS TO THE PROMISED LAND NOW ALSO BEING DENIED BY GOD FOR THEIR OWN LACK OF FULL OBEDIENCE TO ALL OF GOD’S COMMANDMENTS, HIS WORDS TO THEM.
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It seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom  of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too.
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

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Now does Stephen Harper PM of Canada support his own Alliance church position? or his own? He also does says he hates all Russians but 60 percent of the Jews in Israel today are Russians.  http://canadatoday6.multiply.com/journal/item/39/Israel_and_Palestine
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“THE CHRISTIAN AND MISSIONARY ALLIANCE,   – August 16, 2007 –  I recently joined other evangelical leaders in signing a letter to President Bush concerning peace in the Middle East. The letter represents my personal conviction and does not represent the official position of The Alliance or the Board of Directors of the C&MA. The Christian and Missionary Alliance has been ministering in the Arab lands since 1890. For more than 110 years, we have been working among Israelis and Palestinians. We are seeking to fulfill Jesus’ Commission to take the gospel to people in all nations.  The letter I signed encourages President Bush to continue to pursue a peaceful solution to the conflict in the region. We are instructed in the Bible to “seek peace and pursue it,” yet I understand that the only true and lasting peace will come when the Prince of Peace returns. Please join me in praying for the peace of Jerusalem and that many will find the peace that passes all understanding through Jesus.  We share a common concern for peace in the region and the commitment to obey Jesus’ command to spread the gospel to all people. May God be pleased to reach many and bring glory to our Lord.   Living the Call together, Gary M. Benedict  President   U.S. C&MA   “    http://www.cmalliance.org/peaceLetter.jsp
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The C&MA  is the professing Evangelical Stephen Harper’s own church  The CMA should practice what it preaches to others, and return the churches it stole from the others too.   http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/
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Jewish Congress accuses United Church debate proposal of anti-Semitism  Canada’s largest protestant denomination resolutions to be debated at the United Church’s general meeting next week.  Bernie Farber falsely again, and too often now as well  calls the four proposals anti-Semitic. “Anybody that votes in favour of this, votes in favour of anti-Semitism,” Farber, the group’s chief executive officer, said in an interview.  The four resolutions are among 105 to be debated at the meeting in Kelowna, B.C. They do now call on the United Church “to advocate a comprehensive boycott of Israeli academic and cultural institutions.” Another urges the church to “support the international campaign of boycott … divestment and sanctions until Israel meets its obligation to recognize the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to self-determination.” and  in one case refers to “questionable positions of Canadian members of Parliament.”

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Some MPs have accepted sponsored trips to Israel, “which might be called bribes” and said “some members of Parliament are affiliated with the State of Israel.”
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All of the proposals  decried Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, and one also has urged the church to publicly state that the Palestinians must acknowledge Israel’s right to exist in peace too and must stop suicide bombings and other violent attacks on the Israeli people.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090807/national/united_church
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It’s about time someone hold Israel responsible for all the crap they have been doing, with the US as its shield.   Israel’s not special – it’s annoying and hypocritical.
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The all-powerful “anti-Semitism” card has again been played with the force of a blunt object; and to no avail.. And anyone who thinks the Jewish  propoganda machine even the  Canadian Jewish Congress is now winning is naieve.
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Seriously, Israel oppresses the West Bank with more might and fervor than any Palestinian group has the power to counter, and criticism of this behaviour, which would be seen as contravention of international law anywhere else in the world, and someone bringing this up publicly is seen as an “attack” on the poor Israelis?
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Anti-Semitic?  Are the Palestinian territories not “occupied?” Did Desmond Tutu not compare the conditions there to South African apartheid?
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Disgusting the way the Canadian Jewish Congress labels the United Church anti-semetic when the United Church takes a vocal stand against Israel’s apartheid occupation of the Palestinians.   I suppose the wall surrounding the region is actually a clever ruse that the United Church subliminally implanted to unsuspecting Israelis via clever propaganda.
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I fully understand where the proponents of the resolutions are coming from. Palestinians living in Israel do not have the right to vote and are subjected to an entirely different ‘justice’ system than Jewish Israelis. Further, Israel is occupying Palestinian lands and settlers continue to build illegal settlements, literally stealing peoples’ land at the point of a gun.  As well, those who speak out against what is going on over there are lableled ‘anti-semetic’ (Palestinians are also semetic people…semetic refers to a language group).  We need to applaud the United church for at least having enough backbone to debate these issues. And boo to those of you who repeat the propaganda of an Israeli government which has lost all semblance of moral direction. The formerly oppressed have become the current oppressors.
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Bernie Farber is an enemy of free speech. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.
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CJC losing their grip? No one tells the CJC what to do, but they sure do try to tell everyone else what to do. Dream on..
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I know that the Jews were once  “God’s Chosen People” and the rest of us are just whatever… but when Israel behaves like a violent psychopathic bully and someone mentions it that does NOT make them anti-Semitic. And for the record, their troubled history is not a license for them to act with impunity now.   “Church’s reputation seen at risk” for criticizing Israel !! Is this a secular country or a Jewish theocracy?
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There’s the “anti-semetic” card being played again.  Can anyone do or say anything that disagrees with mighty Israel without being labelled “anti-semetic”??
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I’m getting fed up with the way some groups equate even the slightest criticism of Israeli state policy with antisemitism. There’s a big difference between believing in the right of self-determination and sovereignty for ALL people and being a racist bigot. Too bad that too many institutions don’t seem to know the difference and cave every time the antisemitism card is played.
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The Zionistic message is loud and clear. Criticism of Israel is not to be tolerated.”

I recently watched a clip where Palestinians evicted from a house they were living in since before the creation of Israel and the house given to Jews. What did Hitler do to the Jews…confiscate their property and made them homeless. They are doing the same to Palestinians. It is not just the right thing for the church to stand up against injustice and unpopular actions but there will be a day they will be questioned as we are questioning today; why the Catholic church stood by and let Hitler do all those injustices. They have to make their decision based on the facts they gathered and their conscious. They do not have to look for guidance from Jews…they just have to pray God to guide them to do the right thing.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/08/11/united-church-canada-israel081109.html
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More information related to the Report of the Working Group on Israel/Palestine Policy (released 2012).    http://www.united-church.ca/files/general-council/gc41/israel-palestine-policy-summary.pdf    http://www.united-church.ca/beliefs/policies/2012/w536
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Obama’s popularity falling among some of the Jews? A powerful pro-Israel lobby group has criticised President Barack Obama’s decision try to make peace with Iran..
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Now any one who looks at the subject of prophecy, a real genuine Bible student knows that too many Jews ,who can only use the old testament, and there is almost no new testament substantiation for it, still the Jews,  and many others have wrongfully now Distorted Biblical Prophecy Interpretation after the time of Jesus Christ to suit their false Jewish’s ends, a Jewish purpose, for they like Judas they betray Jesus Christ by these acts for Jesus next made it clear the second Jewish Kingdom of God was not in this world..  (John 18:36 KJV)  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
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And the  false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land.
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THE PROPHET MOSES HIMSELF WAS NOW DENIED ENTRANCE TO THE PROMISED LAND FOR HIS OWN SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE NOW EVEN IN STRIKING THE ROCK TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE AS HE WAS COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO SO. Next SO IS THE VALID, LEGITIMATE PRESENT ENTRANCE OF THE JEWS TO THE PROMISED LAND NOW ALSO BEING DENIED BY GOD FOR THEIR OWN LACK OF FULL OBEDIENCE TO ALL OF GOD’S COMMANDMENTS, HIS WORDS TO THEM.
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And as we all do know the main temple in Jerusalem was fully destroyed to the ground  in 70 AD by the Romans, as well as all of the temple records there in, so no one any longer can validate his Jewish ancestry or birth rights even.
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Many evangelicals do now support a two-state solution and creation of a new Palestinian state that includes the vast majority of the West Bank.  They support justice for both Israelis and Palestinians.  If all of the  learned men are going to be truly historically honest, surely they must admit that the Jews have every right to inhabit the land of their fathers, the covenant land given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by none other than God himself and admit that right was the same God who took the right  next away from them, from  that land now twice too… THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT talk about the Jews return next third return to it too. But God still wants the Jews and Palestinians brothers to live in peace together. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine/
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Waves of anger sweeps across the World. Hundreds of Thousands call for Mid-East peace, call for peace in Israel and Gaza, as well as recognition of the citizen’s view of the conflict there, and they want both Gaza and Israel to be free, calling  called for a sustained ceasefire and an end to all violence in the region.  ” We look upon the increasing loss of life on both sides of the Gaza conflict with horror ” . “We have no doubt that these conflicts by  Israel, and by Hamas and other militant Palestinian groups, are war crimes against the innocent citizens.  “No sovereign state should, or would, tolerate continued attacks and the deliberate targeting of civilians.  We all must demand  an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. WASHINGTON: Several thousand protesters – 10,000 according to organizers – descended on the White House in support of Palestinians in Gaza, on the heels of other protests across major world capitals. The two biggest protests calling for an end to Israel’s military offensive in the Gaza Strip took place in London and Paris, and elsewhere.. There are also many Israeli citizens who are extremely critical of their country’s BAD policies.

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As far as I am concerned both sides are really not interested in any real peaceful settlements, negotiations, as History has clearly shown the last 50 years too.. both sides here tend to be really imperfect, have done many wrongs, are often equally guilty thus.. so you cannot really ask me to take one or the other sides .. An Impossible Peace: Israel/Palestine
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“Note the conditions for possession of the land are given in (Deu 8:1 KJV)  All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers. 8:2    And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
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(Deu 10:11 KJV)  And the LORD said unto me, Arise, take thy journey before the people, that they may go in and possess the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give unto them. 12   And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, 13 To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Yes, God was ready to give them the land that he promised to Abraham,  Isaac, and Jacob (Deut. 9:5), but it was conditional upon the people’s obeying God.  Even to Abraham and his seed was given the condition of obedience   (Gen 17:9 KJV)  And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
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Joshua 1:1-9 concerning this, and in verse 4, he was told the extent of the land:  From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river,     the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great   sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
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The readers should also take note of the condition given in verse 3 of this  passage:  Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have  I given you, as I said unto Moses. Joshua 1:7-9. Note especially  verse 8:  This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou   shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: FOR THEN THOU SHALT  MAKE  THY  WAY  PROSPEROUS,  AND  THEN  THOU  SHALT  HAVE GOOD SUCCESS,  Joshua’s conquests continued in chapter 11, and in verse 23 we are told  “Joshua took the whole land.”  Some would cite this as showing that nothing  was left that needed to be conquered.  However, in context, the term “whole  land” refers to that land which Joshua had done battle against.  thus the “whole land” included only those lands conquered to this point, which accord- ing to Joshua 12:7 stretched from Lebanon to Edom.  At this time, they  rested from war and divided the land. ( Josh. 13:6). In  Joshua’s final charge to the people, he reminded them of the condition for  possession:
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It seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom  of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still a Canadian right for all even for non Jewish persons too.
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Abraham (then known as Abram) was called out of Ur to go to a land that  God would show him (Gen. 12:1), a land God said would be his for an inheritance (Gen. 15:7-8; 17:7-8).  Abraham and his seed were charged to keep  God’s covenant (Gen.17:9ff). Later, the promise was renewed to Isaac (Gen. 26:1-5) and to Jacob  (Gen. 28:1-16).  Then, as Joseph neared death, he reminded the people of  the promise in that God would “bring you again unto the land of your fathers” (Gen. 48:21; 50:24).While in  Genesis 15, Jehovah made a promise to Abraham. He declared that the patriarch’s seed would someday possess the territory between “the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates” (v. 18). Has the promise been fulfilled? Premillennialists contend that it has not.
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The two questions  answered about Israel’s promised land.   (1) Did Israel ever possess all the land God promised?  Does it matter?
(2) Did God place conditions on this possessing?  Yes!
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Of this passage, Allan Ross, of the Dallas Theological Seminary, writes: “Israel has never possessed this land in its entirety, but she will when Christ returns to reign as Messiah” but that is still just one’s man’s speculation and has nothing to do with the facts of the New Testament.
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All geopolitical rights promised in the old  covenant have been cancelled and that the best that Israel can  hope for now is to be part of the new people of God, the church, but without a distinct nationality, land, or statehood.  There is no land promise awaiting the Jewish people in the future. The Hebrew people lost their deed to material territory as a result of their spiritual rebellion, which was consummated by their murder of the Messiah.  (Josh 23:15 KJV)  Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. 16    When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you.
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STILL  FALSE AND INCONSISTENT RATIONALIZATIONS ARE USED TO JUSTIFY THE supposed  APPROVAL OF  ISRAEL’S POSSESSION OF THE LAND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.. and the liars add to the word of God that which is not here too.
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Take good heed unto yourselves, that ye love the Lord your God.   Else IF YE DO IN ANY WISE GO BACK, AND  CLEAVE  UNTO  THE   REMNANT OF THESE NATIONS, EVEN THESE  THAT  REMAIN  AMONG YOU, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them,  and they unto you: Know for a certainty that the Lord your God  WILL  NO  MORE  DRIVE  OUT  ANY  OF  THESE  NATIONS  FROM  BEFORE YOU; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and  scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish   from off this good land which the Lord your God hath given you,     (Josh. 23:11-13,  ).
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As Judges 1 shows, the children of Israel did not conquer all their possessions.  Judges 2:1-5 explains why.  Note the following:  And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and  said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never  break my covenant with you.  And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: BUT YE     HAVE NOT OBEYED MY VOICE: why have ye done this?  Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.

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It is obvious that the Israelites made leagues with these people and quit fighting.  Thus, they violated all conditions set forth by God: (1) they quit  “walking” (Josh. 1:3), (2) they made pacts with the enemy (Deut. 7:2), and  (3) they disobeyed God’s commands (Deut. 8:1).  Therefore, these people  could not fulfill all of what God wanted done. ”
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(Lev 25:23 KJV)  The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me. 24    And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a redemption for the land. in a context dealing with the Year of Jubilee, declares that the owner of the land is none other than the Lord. GOD GIVES AND GOD TAKETH AWAY. AND  IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ISRAEL IS DEFINED NOW ALL ENCOMPASSING TO INCLUDE  THE GENTILE BELIEVERS.
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The only related hope EVEN FOR ETERNAL LIFE now for those persons of Jewish background is in their accepting the  gospel of Jesus Christ (Rom 1:16 KJV)  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
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The sole and  most significant passage on this subject in the New  Testament is Romans 9-11, especially 11:11-36.  For if Israel’s   failures have fallen out to the spiritual advantage of the  world and their reconciliation to God, her acceptance will signal  her “life from the dead” (11:15). The question as to whether the return pf the land  follows a national  spiritual awakening and turning to the Lord or vice versa is not at all even confirmed. ” “And so all Israel will be saved” (Rom. 11:26) in accordance  with the predictions of Isaiah 27:9 and 59:20-21. The “and so”  (kai> ou!twj) probably points back to verse 25 and the “mystery” of  the temporary failure of Israel until the full number of the Gentiles comes in (cf. Luke 21:24). Then, in that future moment, “all  Israel will be saved” pa?j ]Israh>l swqh<setai).”
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 People also do still lie when they say the land was given unconditionally to Israel.. God said he would not break his promises, but the people had to live up to their part still.
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But this is a matter of Israel’s individual salvation and  a matter of them still converting to the inclusive  Gentile  brand of Christendom,  not is it a matter of God’s activity in  history when the nation of Israel distinctly shall once again, as in the days of  blessing in the past, experience the fill blessing and joy of God  spiritually, materially, geographically, and politically.  There is no he promise of the land to the  nation of Israel here.
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I do also believe that God divinely still looks after Israel and protects it, but this is never a justification of any of Israel’s past or present acts..
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Too bad still that  both the Jews and Arabs deliberately, equally do refuse to live in peace!
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Free speech too often is a right mainly for the bad guys, crooks, not the decent folks. I also do I know that bad guys and gals such as the crooked cops, crooked pastors, crooked pol;iticans,  crooked anyone do not like me to use my right of free speech.. too bad for them.. Clearly just  because some thing someone writes offends someone else does not mean firstly that it is even “hate”, immediately prosecutable by law, the courts or the Human Rights Commission. There is still a separation between appropriate speech and inappropriate speech, a separation between freedom of speech, expressing one’s views, opinions and the delivered, deliberate conscious propagation of hatred towards a specific group or person.
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OTTAWA — A ruling from a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member says a controversial law banning Internet hate messages is unconstitutional because it violates free speech protections. Athanasios Hadjis ruled Wednesday that section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act violates Charter protections. While this decision doesn’t throw out the law – that’s something for the courts – it did let accused hatemonger Marc Lemire off the hook, because Hadjis refused to penalize him or order him to stop posting his messages on the net. on his site.   Lemire was accused of posting anti-Semitic and anti-gay material on web sites in a complaint brought by Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman. Warman has become an Internet watchdog for such material and the main section 13 complainant before the tribunal. He had asked for a cease-and-desist order against Lemire and a $7,500 fine. Canadian Jewish Congress was quick to call for an appeal of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member   Hadjis ruling. “We strongly disagree with his decision not to impose a cease-and-desist order,” said Joel Richler, an honorary legal counsel to the congress.  The congress said other tribunal members have found the section to be constitutional and the courts should be asked to clarify the matter.
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The Ruling from a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal member says a controversial law banning Internet hate messages is unconstitutional because it violates free speech protections. Refrence the human rights act section 13.1, which says it is a violation to disseminate material on the Internet that is “likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt”  If the example is followed by other tribunal members, it could mean an end to section 13 cases.  In a special report issued in June, the commission asked Parliament to change the law to eliminate the fines and provide a clear, legal definition of what constitutes prohibited hatred. The section has been controversial, with some claiming it spreads too wide a net. The Supreme Court of Canada has said legal action should be reserved only for the most extreme forms of hate.   None of this in any way affects the hate-speech provisions of the Canadian Criminal Code which is completely different legislation, with higher standards of proof and evidence .  Hate accusations can be also  filed with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If it finds them valid, they are then taken before the tribunal, which can order people to stop posting material on the web or impose fines of up to $10,000.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5g-sQIC175Deo3aAwXy9H79lGF1hg
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An apparent victory for free speech. Hopefully marking more than a thumb in the dike in Canada’s slide into fascism. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/03/human-rights-hate-speech-internet.html#
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TORONTO — The signatories of a new letter accusing the Toronto International Film Festival of becoming “complicit in the Israeli propaganda machine” run the gamut from an Oscar-winning actress to a rabble-rousing author to a Talking Head. More than 50 people have added their name to what’s being called The Toronto Declaration, including musician David Byrne, actors Danny Glover and Jane Fonda, and author Alice Walker. The declaration states that while the signatories are not protesting the individual filmmakers participating in the program and do not seek to exclude Israeli films from the festival, “in the wake of this year’s brutal assault on Gaza, we object to the use of such an important international festival in staging a propaganda campaign on behalf of what South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu, former U.S. president Jimmy Carter and UN General Assembly President Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann have all characterized as an apartheid regime.” http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/story.html?id=1960040
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I was really rightfully upset that President George Bush and Prime Minister Stephen Harper had wrongfully allowed Israel to kill wrongfully Lebanon Christians in Lebanon.. http://pkbulow.tripod.com/1.htm
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Honest People speak out against Israel the Bully and Bell Canada the Bully, the bullies,  and   as  you can tell I really, really rightfully  do not like it when any crook, crooked pastor, or crooked cops, crooked politician  tries to shut me up, and I  just speak louder to all then..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/harper-stays-silent-on-gaza/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/
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*and the Jews, Israel for a start falsely, to try to get the support of others, even like to use the term anti Semite often, as a false diversion  even for a start,  as  they here supposedly want to say that they alone are not the objects of the hate, racial  attack but so are the others..  Although the term anti-Semitism has wide currency, it is regarded  as a misnomer, falsely now  implying discrimination against all Semites, including all Arabs and other peoples, who now firstly are not the clear targets of anti-Semitism today as it is usually the fact. It is not the past Jewish culture being attacked now too, but rather their presently specific now bad  personal acts, poor values associated with Israel, especially when they the Jews too often and  falsely, undeniably too now, the chosen ones,   tend to think they are now really superior to all other nations too and they can do what they want, for they can do no wrong. Rather this is not so in reality, they the Jews too can be held accountable for their too often now bad acts as well… even against the Palestinians.
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Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6) and that there is no other salvation but through him. The saints are described in Revelation as those who “hold to the testimony of Jesus.” ((Rev 12:17 KJV) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/
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Prime Minister Golda Meir lying had said ‘This country now exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.’ That was the past as for the present yet still there is no such New Testament approval, prediction.. And the false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land. They now take the land in their own strength and not God’s or by his approval .

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But even the Messianic Jewish Yeshua is not the Christian Jesus, but another false Jesus still

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(2 Cor 11:4 KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
(Gal 1:6 KJV) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
but Jesus as Lord did away with the Sabbath law, he even healed on the Sabbath “The letter”, meaning “the Law of Moses”, and “the spirit” are contrasted in Romans 2:29, Romans 7:6, and II Corinthians 3:6. “The letter” alone is …used in reference to the Law in Romans 2:27. “The spirit,” when contrasted with “the letter,” refers not to the Law of Moses at all, but rather to the spirit of God given to those who believe on Jesus Christ ) If you try to live under the law you will die and go to Hell.. even though it may appeal to your bad flesh to try to do so
(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
(Rom 9:31 KJV) But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
(Eph 2:15 KJV) Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
(Heb 7:16 KJV) Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
(James 2:12 KJV) So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
by the Law of Moses you cannot earn your way into heaven.. never!
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

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The Messianic Jewish belief is a result of a supposed love for, and a mainly a faith solely in the God of Israel not rather solely Jesus Christ Himself who is still the same God but further revealed . It is bot a whole Bible-based faith that be categorized into man-more man made traditions or religions. Many Messianic Jews still do falsely try to lead a Jewish lifestyle, and thus clearly now distinguish themselves from main stream, real Christendom. Messianic Judaism is not Christianity. The Jewish New Testament Apostles all gave up their Jewish traditions. Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.

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The Jews had no trouble keeping the ordinances, feasts, festivals and holy days. However, the Ten Commandments (Moral Law of God) they clearly could not keep. While they added much religious tradition to the Law given on Mt. Sinai, it was a yoke the people could not bear. so why do they the jews now want everyone falsely to do so still as well?

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Notice the too often slanders, lies, personal attacks being made by the Jewish supporters on others when they do not like the Biblical facts being presented they are still trouble makers it seems..

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Many Jews who have accepted Christ as Messiah, are attempting as some of the Jewish Christians in error in the early church, to mesh Grace with Judaism under the Old Covenant, making all inclusive with one another the Works of the Law, as well as the ordinances, such as the Sabbath and other holy days and combining them with Christianity. The great Apostle Paul now had much to say about this in his letters to the early church. Read the Bible, the book of Galatians where Paul addresses this heresy and warns the early church that if they follow this teaching, they have fallen from grace.
http://www.angelfire.com/la/jlush/dangersHRM.html

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Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.
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(Rev 3:12 KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the…

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Have you firstly been Baptized with the Holy Spirit as evidenced by you now also personally in speaking in tongues, otherwise you are not even a real Christian to start of with. Rejecting any of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially the Gift of speaking in national languages (Grk: 1 Cor. 12: 10) is at the least a subconscious or conscious rejection of God’s daily communications system to you.

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Through Christ Jesus and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit God has made provision that each born again person can be Baptized with the same Holy Spirit that Jesus was and operate in the gifts of the Spirit just like Jesus did!
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

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Do see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/the-bible-and-the-jews/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/

– the dispensationalist reality
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/
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January 23, 2009

Alcoholic consumption entertainment at taxpayer’s expenses

 

 

 Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty joined   brewery manager Colin O’Brien, and supply director Paul Armstrong at the Guinness brew house. http://www.canada.com/Stephen+Harper+Irish+adventures/8532787/story.html

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Our Canadian Christian evangelical Prime Minister Stephen Harper makes an essential stop at the Irish Guinness brewery, he sure has fooled all those fundamental western Christians who voted from him cause they had been lied to that he was an Christian evangelical abstainer    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/canada-pm-arrives-in-dublin-ahead-of-g8-summit-1.1430527
http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-possession.html

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For all the fundamental evangelical Christians who say that PM Stephen Harper DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.. HERE IS THE REALITY “VANCOUVER, B.C. – It seems U.S. President Barack Obama owes Prime Minister Stephen Harper a few cold ones. The two leaders had a friendly bet on the outcome of Sunday’s gold-medal Olympic hockey game.   Team Canada came out on top, so Obama will have to pick up a 24-pack of Molson Canadian for the prime minister. Harper would have had to buy Obama a case of Yuengling beer if the U.S. had taken the top honour at the tournament. Team USA beat Team Canada in the first match-up between the two countries in the preliminary rounds, but Canada came out on top in a heart-stopping overtime round on Sunday. Harper was at the game in Vancouver but Obama did not make an appearance at the Olympics. The prime minister met with the gold medal winners in the locker room after the game to congratulate them. ”
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/obama-owes-harper-a-few-brews-after-canada-takes-us-in-olympic-hockey-85784877.html
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I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THE LYING US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OBAMA SUPPORTER HAD SAID THAT CHRISTIAN OBAMA DOES NOT DRINK ALCOHOL..

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And how much major hurt and damage does alcohol drinking still cause in Canada? and how much money does it costs the taxpayers now too? Much too much too. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/alcohol/ 

The Police in Canada also should Maintain efforts on drunk driving,   paying close attention to detect and charge drunk drivers,  all year and not just during the holidays
 
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Quebec bill to lower blood-alcohol level. The new law would permit zero alcohol for drivers younger than 21 and introduces a new sanction for anyone caught between 0.05 and the current legal limit  Under the proposed legislation introduced last December, police could suspend the licence of drivers with a blood-alcohol level between 0.05 and 0.08 for a 24-hour period. 
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 It seems that 70 percent of the adults drink alcohol in Canada too but 100  percent of them claim to be non alcoholics? civil and public servants included, and where do all of the many drunk  drivers, alcoholics  come from now too? For the civil and public servants all you have to do is look at their expenses accounts, see how much they charged us for booze and that will quickly show us all whether they really are alcoholics or not for a start.  Few alcoholics will admit they are alcoholics just as few persons will admit they practice tax evasion as well. Drunk drivers still cause most of the car accidents but the police prefer to go after speeding tickets, it is easier to to get the speeders.. and very profitable, sadly it also ties up our courts with the mostly unnecessary cases too. If you drink 2 martinis at lunch time or supper time  for a start  you are definitely an alcoholic.. andf if you are an alcoholic you should be fired from your job as well.
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Drinking alcohol cause permanent brain damage, it also causes a significant deterioration of one’s mental capabilities, deterioration of one’s inter personal relationship skills, it also causes more car accidents than speeding or not having adequate winter tires, it also reduces significantly one’s work productivity as well undeniably too.  So  tell us all now:
– How much money did the Prime Minister, the Premiers themselves now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year,
– How Much money did the federal, provincial cabinet ministers now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year
– How much money did the civil and public servants now spend on Alcoholic consumption entertainment last year
I trust you all can readily supply us all with the answers
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Fundamental evangelical pastors preach it is a sin for any Christian to drink alcohol, Liberal Christians such as Catholics or Eastern Orthodox church say it is not. But one thing no one can deny is how harmful drinking alcohol is.. in Russia 60 percent of men and women die due to drinking alcohol..

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I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian  pastors, politicians still do falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it..  

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I still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride. Sadly I have often been in bad Christian churches where the clearly crooked pastor to turn off attention off himself would bash some other churches, some other denominations and some other persons, but all that bashing of his now did not still deny his own sins and his own wrong doings though now. The Bad preacher are not the only ones who can preach about other people’s sins and demand others to repent, so can I, bad pastors now included and I rightfuly  do often as well.

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 (Gal 6:1 KJV)  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2  Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3  For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceived himself. 4  But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5  For every man shall bear his own burden.
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Now as I was reflecting about my many past posts on the net  in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting  it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..(Eccl 8:11 KJV)  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
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 I have often also met in evangelical circles the despotic foremen,  dictatorial types, bully, jungle fighter   leaders, the same persons who think they are supreme over all others, they can take the law into their own hands, and even do what they want over any others, physically now as well. I have not totally now understood how these unacceptable, abusive slave drivers got to this personality stage or why they falsely think in their abusive pride they will get away with it forever now as well. Ironically the wolves in sheep clothing exist Canada wide, even in evangelical churches, political circles too now, and I guess for me telling the truth that is why so many of them hate me, do not hesitate to ban me or kick me out of their often also  bad churches now too..
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  I had attended a recent comical church service,  New Beginnings Ministry 9412 Rue Clement Lasalle, QC H8R1T5 Phone: (514) 363-1080., a farcical circus, not the first time now too,  where Stéphane Chauvette Associate Pastor was preaching about everything, bashing everyone else, but somehow he could not keep his own promises, his  own word, or stay on a specific valid subject. And he made it clear if you  rock his boat he will next also kick you off the ship..  The  hypocritical, pretentious fundamental right winged evangelical pastor of this New Life Beginnings in LaSalle, Quebec  Preaches next openly  now  for us not to believe any of the news media and for us not to  have anything to do with any person who drinks wine, and to stand up against all of the people who do any wrong, to even openly speak to them, ( as long as it is not the pastor himself  for sure) and yet he lied and says come and talk to me your pastor after church. I am always really interested to hear from you about all of your concerns but  in reality when you do try to talk to him.. for next  I thus told him that our PM stephen Harper the supposedly good Christian now drinks beer/wine.. Tom Flanagan, a political scientist at the University of Calgary and Harper’s former campaign director and chief of staff said that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was his regularly beer drinking buddy. Others confirmed that Harper drinks wine and Beer such as even George Bush..   well  next the pastor really got upset at me..  since he himself cannot handle negative truths, he the ostrich no good pastor refused to further talk with me  and said  he was tired now, he  refuses to hear any of that, he refuses to believe any of that, for that is all gossip,  slanders, and also we do not allow anyone who causes disturbance, problems, gives any criticism in our church, so please leave now. So much for this supposedly Christ like church and their false professing Christian love, false brotherly love, their supposed openness now, and one’s free speech too.. 
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Freedom of speech to many of these despotic, self centered, agenda oriented  preacher  is generally one way, they alone are allowed to do all of the talking, and no one else, everyone else is only allowed to listen is also what I have directly experienced here too. If you challenge what they say they falsely do immediately divorce you, even physically assault you and kick you out of the church now too.  The same pastor says he does not believe anything the news media writes at all. So who does he believe? only himself it seems and anyone else like minded. So what truth is he really now peddling, a distorted ones clearly. For the record, Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada himself now did  not even deny to me that he drinks beers and/or alcohol, or that he even gives presents of alcohol to others as well. So why do any of the others? Why did this pastor? They can only face the negative reality from a distance… Not  the first time I do now meet such fundamental ostriches.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/
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One of the things I have found also so confounding is how many preachers can be filled with both truths and lies, falsehood, errors and how come? Why is that?   I was passing through the city of Chicago on the way to Winnipeg and I had decided to stop in a Pentecostal church, that I had read about in Christians magazines, books now too, this Church had regular Sunday services casting out demons out of Christians too. I was dismayed to  hear the preacher at a Sunday morning service also preach that the Russians had an army of tanks on the US border in Canada ready too invade the US, and most people there had next accepted this as the truth. Funny or sad  how so many people seem to be ready to believe gross lies over the truth, reality  from their leaders now even  in churches as well. For certainty I next saw no Russians tanks at the Canadian border when I drove on to Calgary Alberta as well.
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(Gal 3:26 KJV)  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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(Job 13:4 KJV)  But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
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(1 Cor 14:29 KJV)  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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(1 Cor 14:31 KJV)  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 
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Please do have the local LaSalle police remind the pastors, elders, members, adherents of this Pentecostal church that is is still illegal for the pastor or anyone else now there too to physically assault anyone, even if it is in their church. They may have a right to ask anyone to leave their premises, but as I have witnessed myself now they do not have a right to physically grab, lay hands, assault any person in their church even now too especially when he did nothing wrong.. That right is only for the police and is limited for them as well.. If someone next after being asked refuses to leave the church when asked they can call the police. I told them that I was glad to leave this church on my own free will and will be just as glad not to come back too. 

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Honor Killings, Violence. In reality too the Cops themselves, RCMP included, now   are not the only one who resort to violence when their authority is threatened, so do some clearly bad, hot tempered evangelical  pastors now too..  I too before have already experienced in Canada  a  direct physical assault of me by  a rogue Pentecostal pastor who had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too,, in front of a witness, backed up with a police report , cause I had refused to go to his church. An another Pentecostal pastor and even a church elder,  were  attempting to physically abuse me to stop my public revelations of his unacceptable acts, thefts of money too. and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter who also had experience physical assault attempt  by a Plymouth Brethren pastor. But none of this should be a surprise when a pastor’s authority, financial security is threatened ehh..
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“Opposition parties are threatening to vote down this week’s much-anticipated Conservative budget because it contains a potentially contentious proposal to permanently slash taxes for middle-class Canadians. While the Conservatives say the tax cuts will help working families during a challenging economic era, the Liberals say the rollback is ill-advised and will do little to stimulate the economy. “If the permanent tax cuts were very large, we would be very concerned, partly because it would saddle future generations with a big debt and a permanent deficit,” Liberal finance critic John McCallum told CTV’s Question Period Sunday. McCallum added that the tax reductions will be an ineffectual stimulus because people are more likely to save extra money during recessionary periods. And if the Tory budget fails to deliver what’s best for Canada, McCallum said the Liberals will have little option than to vote it down. ” Harper’s budget seems to be more of his political buying toys over rally kick starting the economy. Something he Harper had promised he would not do as well. Canadians should be skeptical of any new spending announcements by Harper’s administration. The moves are an attempt to cement public support for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s minority government .  “Their track record when it comes to putting shovels in the ground is the worst of any recent government at any level in terms of actually getting things built and money spent,” ,  Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy also lamented that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government has spent only 20 percent of previously announced infrastructure funding.
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When it suits him only PM Stephen Harper is willing to leak information to the citizens, news media.. Stephen Harper was elected based on his past promises of a new and better form of governing, openness, transparency and accountability.. none of these promises were kept next as well. Canada’s Conservative government’s own cult of secrecy. It now under Stephen Harper is Harder than ever to get information from the federal government  Harper clearly himself has penchant for secrecy. “Not since the advent of the Access to Information Act (ATIA) in 1983, has it been so difficult to get timely information from the Canadian government.  Delays routinely extend seven months past the 30-day requirement to release records; complaints can take over two years for a response. A two-year backlog of complaints to the commissioner “permits several federal institutions to enjoy a two-year amnesty (extension) to release records..  and the long delays in responding “encourages many institutions to claim a range of exemptions, exclusions or exaggerated fees which would not otherwise be permitted under the act, knowing . . . it will take the commissioner no less than two years to adjudicate the complaint.”   In 2007-2008, of 29,000 Freedom of Information requests received, 1,381 investigations were completed, leaving 2,387 to be carried over. The lesson ..”that the mere existence of an access statute does not, in itself, guarantee access to information.”  The Harper government has increased “exclusions, exceptions and prohibitions” in disclosing information, thus “government institutions are still operating under a cult of secrecy.”
 
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Harper’s turnarounds include:
 
The Senate. He was adamant he would not resort to the old politics of stacking the upper chamber with party cronies. But faced with the possible defeat of his minority government, Harper moved fast before Christmas to fill 18 vacancies with loyal Conservatives, many failed candidates or with party ties.• Fixed election date. In May 2006, Harper proposed fixed election date legislation that would set the next election date in October 2009, to stop political leaders from “trying to manipulate the calendar.”
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Instead, Harper called an election last September, saying that Parliament had reached an “impasse.” But he was also hoping to capitalize on his own promising poll numbers and a weak official Opposition before the economy worsened.
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Now if he  PM Stephen Harper now was  was so smart in the first place then  how come he could not even see the recession coming? or the coalition threat? Conservative Governments also tend to never spend wisely in the first place. Can they even be trusted firstly to next even keep their promises? So now can we even really trust the PM Stephen Harper and his Conservative government for sure next even when their budget  motivation is done in panic — due to Harper’s   near-death political experience forced on him by the opposition. Harper originally came into government promising to make it smaller and more efficient and is clearly willing to sell all of his principles to stay in power at all costs. Foolishly Merely Giving away money, or going into a large deficit,  themselves are  not a sure way to revive the economy.      
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From: Schuler, Ron
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: I would like to know
Thanks for your email, as I can’t answer for all the rest I can tell you that I have spent not one penny of the publics money on alcohol.
With regards
Ron R. Schuler, MLA

AND WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THEM?

Now we have revelaltion in Sept 2009 of alcohol abuse in Ontario too

And why did it take so long to investigate and take action when this was brought out before in the past?

The “culture of entitlement” at the lottery corporation appears to be a deep-rooted problem that will not be solved by the new procedures put in place by Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty, said Kevin Gaudet, federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

Under the new Ontario Government rules revealed this month , employees with unacceptable expense claims such as alcohol for staff functions and personal items must repay the taxpayers. McGuinty’s move follows the revelations employees at Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp expensed items such as a $3,713.77 dinner for 38 people that included more than 10 bottles of wine and other alcohol. The Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp.’s 10 highest-paid employees expensed at least $2,533 on alcohol between January, 2007, and December, 2008. A sales and marketing meeting at the Keg resulted in a $260 liquor tab; 38 people at a pre- Sound of Music business dinner drank $885 worth of alcoholic beverages. Any hospitality event at which alcohol was served would have to receive prior approval. The same provincial public-service rules also require written approval before all out-of-province travel, rarely evident in the documents the province made public this week. It all now still reveals a culture of acceptability that is inappropriate in a recession and in any Crown environment. The past provincial directive, which has been in place since 2004, states that “reimbursement of meal costs must not include the reimbursement for any alcoholic beverages.” The Ontario Liberals have also ordered a review of the 600 provincial agencies, boards and commissions to root out spending abuses. New Democrat Leader Andrea Horwath said the added layer of scrutiny doesn’t assuage concerns about widespread illicit spending among government agencies. NOW WHAT ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

I am also now outraged over Conservatives travel expenses. “We should be outraged over travel expenses.. Toronto Star published a story on Nov. 22 detailing what appeared to be exorbitant travel expenses for federal government cabinet ministers and some public servants. Firstly Considering the state of the economy at this time and the fact the federal government will be returning to deficit financing, it should not only be encouraging federal travellers to fly economy class but insist on it.  The Star said its investigation found spending by ministers, political staff and bureaucrats to be far from the frugal image of the Harper government. “Some federal travellers can’t seem to get to London, England, for less than $6,000, even though economy seats were available for $1,000 to $2,000,” the Star said. “In our analysis of 60,000 travel records over four years, we found $18,000 flights to Australia, $7,000 flights to Paris, $11,000 flights to Indonesia and $8,000 flights to Switzerland.  The Alberta environment minister and an aide spent $3,200 each to fly to Bali for a United Nations conference on climate change. Former federal environment minister John Baird spent $10,920 for a flight to the same conference. Add in three political aides and two bureaucrats at similar rates and the total airfare cost to the Canadian taxpayer was $61,000.  The Star said it found that Harper’s ministers often travel with a large entourage at high cost.   The Star said it found that while both had been big spenders, “most Conservative ministers spent slightly more than the Liberals they once accused of being lavish spenders.”  However, Tony Clement wasn’t one of them. The then-Conservative health minister travelled economy to Kenya and Tanzania to visit health clinics and deliver a $150,000 government cheque. However, the whole trip wasn’t done on the cheap. For some unexplained reason Clement allowed two aides to sit up front in executive class at $11,000 a pop, bringing the total cost to $30,000 to deliver a $150,000 aid cheque.”  http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1402617 .

The federal government should take immediate action to control interest rates and fees on consumer credit cards because those climbing costs are choking consumers and businesses amid the deepening recession, says Senator Pierrette Ringuette. Ringuette, a Liberal from New Brunswick, argues the upcoming federal budget is a golden opportunity for Conservative Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to tackle the controversial issue of regulation.  Caps on interest and other fees are firmly on the political agenda in other countries. But with no clear sign that such measures are in the works here, Ringuette is urging members of the upper chamber to champion the cause. As Flaherty unveils his budget in the lower house on Tuesday, Ringuette will lay the groundwork to revive a motion for the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce to probe Canada’s credit card and debit card systems. In addition to scrutinizing consumer rates, she wants to examine other behind-the-scenes charges including interchange and merchant discount rates. “Canadians must be boiling mad right now because nobody is paying attention to the consumer,” Ringuette said. She questions how the economy can rebound if consumers and businesses must absorb higher costs on “Canadians must be boiling mad right now because nobody is paying attention to the consumer,” Ringuette said. She questions how the economy can rebound if consumers and businesses must absorb higher costs on credit cards at a time when many are struggling to stay afloat.  Other countries, meanwhile, have bolstered regulations. In December, American regulators announced sweeping changes, including a new rule to protect consumers from interest-rate increases on existing account balances. Taking effect in 2010, that change means credit card companies can only raise interest rates on new cards, future purchases and advances.  http://www.thestar.com/business/article/576545

Tom Flanagan, a former Harper campaign organizer and strategist, said Harper has transformed from a conservative ideologue to a political survivor, but remains a victim of his own dark side. “Both sides are real … but what you see more and more is the political Harper,” said Flanagan, author of the acclaimed Harper’s Team: Behind the Scenes in the Conservative Rise to Power.

Tom Flanagan, a political scientist at the University of Calgary and Harper’s former campaign director and chief of staff said that the Conservative  strategists before the 2006 federal election. Conservatives wanted to attract Roman Catholics, visible minorities and married women with children.  By cutting taxes, particularly the GST, Harper has simply starved the centre-left of the fiscal room for new, big-ticket social programs he also said.. Gerry Nicholls of the conservative online portal Libertas Post says Harper caters to “populist conservative” values such the family, the military and criminal justice – but avoids the issues of individual freedom, smaller government and balanced books.

Flanagan said the “Machiavellian” side is far more troubling than his political transformation, given that it almost cost him his government. “He lost the initiative by provoking the other parties into this potential coalition against him … and now he finds himself having to put together a budget which is really a coalition budget … the government’s hand is fairly weak right now.”” Toronto Star

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has made tax cuts a top priority since he was first elected as the leader of the Conservative party but has he rather made things worse now? 

 
Harper also accused of ditching principles to keep power. The same person  who revered his conservative ideology is clearly now he’s sacrificing it for political expediency. From the Senate to fixed-date elections , government appointments, defecits,  Prime Minister Stephen Harper has sent  his political principles into the waste bin.  “”We will not be running a deficit. We will keep our spending within our means. It is that simple. The alternative is not a plan. It is just the consequence of complete panic, and this government will not panic at a time of uncertainty,” Harper told a Toronto audience on Oct. 7. Times change quickly and, with them, the politicians who rule .”Absolutely he has abandoned his principles … I don’t even recognize this person who is the Prime Minister of Canada,” said Gerry Nicholls, who worked with Harper at the National Citizens Coalition. Harper is a one-time head of the coalition, a non-partisan organization for the “defence and promotion of free enterprise, free speech” and accountable government. “He was a principled small-c conservative who believed that … conservative politicians should stick by their principles,” Nicholls said. “I think he began to care more about public-opinion polls than his principles.”

Prime Minister Stephen Harper also has broken with traditional budget secrecy, revealing nearly $6-billion in spending plans over the past three days…     This from a prime minister who just months ago vowed there would be no deficit. The Tories are planning to run deficits totalling $64-billion over the next two fiscal years, including $34-billion in the first year and $30-billion in the second. Other spending announced in recent days:
$1.5-billion in funding to boost training for laid-off workers including even those who are ineligible for Employment Insurance
$500-million in targeted support for older workers
$1-billion in funding for renovating social housing
$600-million for on-reserve aboriginal housing
$400-million for seniors’ housing
$75-million for housing for people with disabilities
$1-billion community adjustment fund for single-industry and resource towns hardest hit by this economic crisis (forestry, mining and agriculture communities). This national fund would have flexible criteria for applicants in order to help their communities adjust to the changing economic climate
$160-million for new investments in arts and culture
$150-million in forestry industry aid, including more than $100-million to develop new uses for forest products and $50-million to help promote the industry abroad as environmentally responsible
$550-million for farmers, including half a billion to help adjust to tough times and $50-million to expand slaughterhouse capacity
I have often heard it said that most Canadians Canada wide now are still like fearful sheep they are too ready to be fleeced, sadly it also seems they must have ostrich genes in them for when you present negative truths they tend to often rather bury their heads in the sand as well it  seems.. especially in in too many of the evangelical churches.. or  the ostrich sheep in Alberta who also now too often seem to think no Conservative politician can ever do any wrong rather it has to be the other bad guys, you know the liberals. Or the BQ separatists, the communist NDP… Ironically the wolves in sheep clothing exist Canada wide, in evangelical churches, political circles too now, and I guess for me telling the truth that is why so many of them hate me, do not hesitate to ban me or kick me out of their often also  bad churches now too.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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 Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20   Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21   Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Col 3:5 KJV)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6   For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 
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(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13   But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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(Mat 24:48 KJV)  But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49  And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50  The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Do see also
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/prime-minister-stephen-harper-let-me-repeat-myself/
 
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** The Pastor had said that God does not let us to talk to anyone who drinks wine, but this is a rather distorted, extreme interpretation of the Bible, The Bible clearly says WE ARE NOT TO FELLOWSHIP WITH A CHRISTIAN PERSONS WHO GETS DRUNK.. now that is really different from not talking to any of the people who drink wine.. and why is this pastor so ready not to talk with others now too? so ready to smite them, to kick them out of church? If you have love for someone you are willing to talk with them, but if you do not have love for them, especially if, when you know they do not support you, do not agree with your presentation, do not agree  with your point of view, you as a pastor too no can personally can instead  refuse to love them, you refuse to talk to them, you find any excuse to reject, ostracize, divorce them basically to deny, to cover up the unacceptable reality that you yourself the pastor actually do not have any love for them.

• Supreme Court appointments. In December, Harper appointed Thomas Cromwell of the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal to the Supreme Court, bypassing a parliamentary hearing process he championed to more openly scrutinize nominees.

• Government appointments. The Prime Minister had promised to implement a public appointments commission to eliminate cronyism in such appointments. It was to be part of the government’s much-vaunted Accountability Act. It never happened and, since winning its first minority government in January 2006, the Tory government has made some 1,500 appointments, many based on political pedigree.

Michael Ignatieff.  M.P  Leader of the Opposition Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada clearly should give more attention on dealing with elderly abuses over grandstanding with abortion.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/federal-bucks-discrimnatory-support-for-seniors/

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Only the US cops drive drunk now?

An off-duty cop slammed his car into the front of Tiffany’s flagship Fifth Avenue store at 3 a.m.  in a crash that investigators suspect may have been alcohol related, police sources said.  The car – with the officer behind the wheel – plowed into a garbage truck at the corner of 57th St. and Fifth Ave. before careening onto the sidewalk at 3 a.m.,   The impact was strong enough that the three occupants had to be cut out of the vehicle. All were hospitalized. DWI charges are likely. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cop_crashes_into_tiffany_booze_suspected_7GIcYrovjcWQis8PAaDtsK

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While there is no way of knowing exactly the real number of drunk drivers on the road every day — police can’t be catching them  at all times, if they are certainly not trying too but instead are wrongfully spending their time and energy on revenue generating speeding tickets. Yes impaired driving is everyone’s business and  all citizens who see erratic, unsafe and suspected impaired driving need to call police on the 911 line. Police can’t be everywhere at all times, but they should respond  fast and effectively when alerted. And simply lower the allowed blood alcohol limit to the chosen point at which drivers are deemed no longer any danger and showing no tolerance for drunk drivers
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Not only are so many of our civil and public servants bad examples, even alcoholics now too, but the Governments, Police are too soft on alcoholics too. 6 times more persons are killed by drunk driving over speeding at least. Many drunk drivers are only prosecuted by the police npw still only mainly two months of the year, December, January and those who drunls who have lost their license to drive a car next the majority of them keep driving without a license next anyway.
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Provincial governments in Canada are making record breaking profits by encouraging the citizens to consume even more  alcohol, beer and are making even  more even by the  taxation of these products. They should not be  encouraging the citizens to do so.
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do see also

November 7, 2008

What they often do call news is mere lies, spin doctors, not real facts

 

cbcnews

– Its is undeniable reality that most of Churches today, at least over half,  are still   often cultural, social  groups, not real Christian Churches, and that includes both the white and black, ethnic churches.

– Obama election shows deep racial divide in church or the deep theological divides? or what is accepted in one denomination can not be accepted in others. The liberal churches clearly voted for Obama.

As posted on the net.

Obama election shows deep racial or a religious divide in church supposedly says ” The Associated Press – NEW YORK (AP) – The barrier-crossing election of Barack Obama did little to bridge the deep racial divide in American churches. In fact, some clergy say it has only served to underscore their differences. While nonwhite Christians voted overwhelmingly for Obama, most white Christians backed John McCain, according to exit polls. The Rev. Al Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the denomination’s flagship school, said white evangelicals backed McCain because of his opposition to abortion rights, not because of the race of either candidate. According to Associated Press exit polls, 34 percent of white Protestants voted for Obama, while 65 percent went with McCain. Obama won the overall Roman Catholic vote, but white Catholics backed McCain by a slim majority, 52 percent to 47 percent. Among white Christians, the racial gap was most pronounced with evangelicals: 74 percent backed McCain, 24 percent backed Obama. The pattern is not new and fits the larger trend of white voters overall, the majority of whom voted for McCain..” ignores the fact the white Christians  tend to be from the more traditional established Christian  churches.

– Religious  White  people’s  racial values was, is not the only issue for many of them now still not supporting Obama. Many white people still also had voted for Obama, and note this that many white people, rightfully or wrongfully,  oppose Obama’s socialism which they tend to  seem to see as as another form of communism too. Many religious persons still do see Obama rather rightfully as a non Christian

-Also the Black Christians and clearly wrongfully had supported their own  race over adequate religious values  for Obama’s reality of being a true Christian is still very much debatable. He supports drinking alcohol, gays, abortion and who knows what, and  he is the first political candidate to be addressed as an Anti Christ by many because  of his inadequate Christian beliefs, or  because he  is a non Christian?

Too many reporters are mere Bullies still

Bullying tendency wired in brain
BBC News –  An area of the brain associated with reward lit up in scans when aggressive boys watched a video of someone inflicting pain. Boys without a history of unusual aggression had no such response, the study in Biological Psychology found.
Pain May Be Pleasurable for Some Bullies ABC News
Bullies may get kick out of seeing others in pain Reuters
United Press International – World Science – Telegraph.co.uk
all 24 news articles »

Palin gone, anything but forgotten
San Francisco Chronicle –  GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin returned home in defeat to Wasilla, Alaska, on Wednesday night – leaving behind eyebrow-raising tales about towel-clad appearances and internal campaign feuds.
More Dirt on Sarah Palin’s Fancy Duds Washington Post
Internal Battles Divided McCain and Palin Camps New York Times
Dallas Morning News – The Swamp – Tribune’s Washington Bureau – ABC News – Los Angeles Times
all 468 news articles »

The Liberal news media tends not to support family  values, and / or Christians  but still I was surprised how many unsubstantiated facts,   lies the liberal news media had and is still printing about Sarah Palin , for they do falsely present  lies, slander, gossip, distortions, even hate all showing  to many what they themselves merely still are really like,  immoral persons!

see also

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/the-faith-factor-2008-vs-2004-exit-polls/

http://canadatoday9.multiply.com/journal/item/4/HOW_TO_DEAL_WITH_MAJOR_COMPLAINTS

It is absurd also still to call a drug user, an alcoholic, an abortionist, a fornicator, or a divorcée as a real Christian now still also

Sarah Palin fires back at ‘jerks’ Los Angeles Times – The governor and her aides dispute claims about her foreign-policy knowledge and $150000-plus wardrobe. By Seema Mehta and Maeve Reston Alaska Gov.
Palin Denounces Her Critics as Cowardly ABC News
Palin Calls Criticism by McCain Aides ‘Cruel’ New York Times
Reuters – The Associated Press – Washington Post – The Weekly Standard
all 802 news articles »
 
Readers Respond: Bush and His Critics Wall Street Journal –  The reader response to “The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace” has been overwhelming. Here’s a selection from the thousands of comments submitted by Opinion Journal readers: Finally, someone with the guts to stand up for W. 
 

 

“”We worship an awesome God in the blue states,” Barack Obama declared during his 2004 Democratic convention keynote. Thunderous applause greeted that line, in part because Democrats felt frustrated that they’d been unfairly cast as a secular or even anti-religion party, and by the political dominance of religious conservatives.”

The Rise of the Religious Left. But clearly Obama still did not get the evangelical votes.

The Faith Factor 2008 vs. 2004 — Exit Polls

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http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/ 

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/obama-triumphs-will-be-first-black-us-president/

 

Ten Faith Factors for Election Night

1.How Many Obamagelicals Are There? – It might seem farfetched that a socialist-terror-lovin’-pro-abortion candidate like Obama could win any evangelical Christians but he’s been courting them fervently since he began his presidential run. The key the 40% of evangelicals who call themselves “moderate” or “liberal.” Point of reference: John Kerry won 21% of white evangelicals, Gore 18%. Bill Clinton in 1996 won 26%.    

 

2.  Will Palin Turn Out the “Religious Right”? — By picking Sarah Palin, John McCain gambled that she’d be able to rev up the evangelical “base.” Even as her popularity has fallen generally, evangelicals still love her (some even believing she was sent to battle the anti-Christ.) Assuming most conservative evangelicals vote for McCain, the second question is: how many will show up? Point of reference: white evangelicals accounted for 23% of the electorate in 2004.

3. Do Midwestern Evangelicals Split With Their Brethren? — Recent polls have showed Obama trailing badly among evangelicals in Florida and Colorado but doing quite well with them in Michigan, Ohio and

Pennsylvania. If he succeeds there, he may have tapped into regional differences in style, theology and politics and launch a new era in faith-and-politics punditry, in which we no longer talk about “the evangelical vote” as a geographically uniform phenomenon.4. Will Catholics Ignore Their Bishops? – The overall Catholic vote has gone with the popular vote winner every election since 1968. Catholic Bishops have been urging Catholic voters to vote for pro-life candidates but a majority of Catholic voters are now pro-choice so it remains to be seen what influence the church will have. (Obama is also winning with the 100-year-old-nuns bloc) Another factor in Obama’s favor: a higher percentage of the Catholic vote will be Latino this year. Last election, George W. Bush won the Catholic 52%-46%.

 

5. Can Obama Finally Bowl a Strike With Skeptical White Catholics? – During the primaries, Obama did poorly with white Catholics, often working class ethnics or their offspring. Remember his feeble attempt to curry favor through bowling? They tend to be culturally conservative and haven’t voted for a Democrat since 1996. On the other hand, they’re especially concerned about the economy this year, and Joe Biden has been trying to bond with them as a fellow “cultural Catholics.” Point of reference: In 2004, Bush won 56% of white Catholics, Kerry 43%.

6. Will Whitebread Protestants Back the Black Guy? – Recent polls show Democrats gaining with a group that had leaned Republican for most of the past few decades – Mainline Protestants. It appears that while Sarah Palin energized evangelicals, she may have alienated some Mainliners. In 2004, they went for President George W. Bush 54%-46%.

7. Will Latino Protestants Vote Their Values or the Pocketbook? – One positive trend for Obama will likely be the shift of Latinos from the Republican side, where they resided in 2004, to the Democrats. The hidden religious story: most of the shift is driven by Latino Protestants. Many are evangelical and liked Bush’s Christian faith and his conservative positions on social issues (gay marriage, abortion) but have shifted to Obama because of the economy and concerns about immigration.

8. How Will the Kinda-Sorta Religious Vote? – In recent elections, the most religious you were, the more likely you were to vote Republican. This is known as the God Gap, which will still certainly exist. But watch for two things: among weekly churchoers how big is McCain’s margin? Bush won that group 61%-39% Second, Kerry last time beat Bush among more occasional churchgoers 53%-47%. Will Obama increase that margin?

9. Will Jews Schlep to Republican Side? – This only really matters in

Florida, and even there it doesn’t matter as much as you’d think (Jews made up 5% of the electorate there in 2004). Early polls had Obama struggling among Jews – in part because of fears about his former church’s connections to Louis Farrakhan — but more recently he’s caught up, possibly because Jews fear that Sarah Palin is an extreme evangelical. Or possibly the Sarah Silverman factor. Jews reportedly went about 75%-25% for Kerry.10. Will the GOP Become the ROP? – Will Republicans become the Religiously Oriented Party? In 2004, white evangelicals made up 36% of Bush voters.
Will that go up or down? If it becomes an even more dominant force within the party, how will that shape either the way McCain governs if he wins or, if he loses, how the Republicans re-invent themselves.

Carla Hinton  Religion Editor http://blog.newsok.com/religionandvalues/2008/10/31/389

so what do you say  about the faith factor…

Though the economy clearly was the defining issue of the election, Obama forged a new coalition by luring millions of religious left voters who had avoided Democrats in recent years.

In short:

He narrowed the God Gap. Bush beat Kerry among weekly church-goers by 61%-39%. McCain is beating Obama 54%-44% Most of that gain appears to have come from Protestants rather than Catholics

 

He won Catholics back. Early exit polls indicate he won 54% of the Catholic vote compared to 45% for John McCain. George W. Bush won the Catholic vote 52%-46%. Most of those gains came from Catholics who don’t attend mass weekly.

He also improved among white Catholics, according to the early exit polls. Bush got 56%-43% As of now, McCain lead by just 51%-49% This was despite an aggressive push by more than 50 Bishops to encourage Catholics to focus on abortion as the central issue.

He man real gainst among Evangelicals. Evangelicals and Born Again Christians made up a greater portion of the electorate this year than last election but that didn’t all accrue to McCain’s benefit, as predict. Obama improved slightly on a national level, getting 25% compared to Kerry’s 21%

But far more important, he made significant progress in the pivotal rustbelt states that won him the election. For instance, evangelicals flooded the polls in Ohio and Obama significantly improved on Kerry’s showing.

He attracted more Mainline Protestants – Though shifting toward the center in recent years, mainline Protestants — once a core of the Republican party — – still went for the Republicans in 2004. The exit polls didn’t ask specifically about mainline Protestants but it appears Obama improved slightly with this group..

He energized the lightly religious. Though secular voters already voted Democratic, they did so by an even bigger margin this year. Even more important, a quarter of the electorate says they go to worship services but only a few times a year. Kerry won that group with 54%-45%. Obama won 61%-38%

BREAKING: Catholic Shift to Obama

The rap on Obama during the primaries was that he couldn’t win because he struggled with Catholics. Apparently, he got past that. Early exit polls indicate he won 54% of the Catholic vote compared to 45% for John McCain….

Obama Luring Rest Belt Evangelicals But Not Southerners

Obama seems to have made far more progress with Born Again Christians in rust belt states than in the South. Based on preliminary exit polls: Florida: 78%-20% (McCain-Obama) Virginia: 78%-21% Ohio: 70%-29% Indiana: 66%-32%

BREAKING: Weekly Churchgoers vs. Occasionals

One thing that puzzles me about these numbers: Obama’s progress among Catholics is with those who don’t attend mass weekly. But among Protestants, he improved among those who do attend weekly. One possible theory: abortion. Mass-attending Catholics are more likely…

October 17, 2008

the rich man’s social club

                 
                
  
I was sitting in one of the biggest,
most established evangelical churches in Canada
for the first time..

and surprisingly next I heard Jesus say to me,

” Paul what are you doing here?”

shocked I said in reply” I am worshipping in your house?”

 and Jesus replied to me and said

” but these are the rich who persecute the poor people

so I ask you again what are you doing here?:

Embarrassed I shortly next left

and never came back to this bad church.

yet the people in that church were proud of their church,

their accomplishments..

 it too was rather a rich man’s social club

and not a real church..

  

AND IT WAS in the Calgary First Christian Missionary Alliance Church, Stephen’s Harper’s church too 

 

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  
 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

 

drunkenness behavior is unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick  persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

September 22, 2008

it is about time someone did it..

 I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate not just all of the civil, public servants, politicians, in reality but also all the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for alcoholism, drug usage,  possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it all firstly too.

Hospitality tab at Passport Canada costs taxpayers $16,800: document   OTTAWA – Senior cabinet minister Peter MacKay approved a $16,800 hospitality bill for a group of civil servants in an apparent bending of government rules, a newly disclosed document shows while Federal rules strictly govern hospitality expenses, especially when food and drink are provided free to civil servants.

 

 

Layton promises provinces power to ban handguns Globe and Mail –  GATINEAU, Que. – If elected prime minister, NDP leader Jack Layton promised Sunday to give all the provinces and territories the power to implement a total handgun ban in their jurisdictions.
 
Women urged to report all sexual violence( including all verbal and physical abuses, and all bad cops, bad civil and public servants, bad pastors, bad lawyers, bad doctors, bad professionals  now  too) Daily Gleaner –  By GLENNA HANLEY More than 100 women marched downtown Friday night, carrying placards and chanting in an effort to raise awareness about violence against women and children.      

September 21, 2008

What’s wrong with insisting that visitors to government offices aren’t drunk?

 

Tories apologize for ‘sober’ remark to aboriginal protester http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080918.welxncanapolgy0918/BNStory/Front

What’s wrong with insisting that visitors to government offices aren’t drunk?  Such a hypocritical Question, response firstly.

The Question   would only be really appropriate if the Ministers of the governments, managers of the civil and  public services were exemplary sober now themselves now..

Hospitality tab at Passport Canada costs taxpayers $16,800: document   OTTAWA – Senior cabinet minister Peter MacKay approved a $16,800 hospitality bill for a group of civil servants in an apparent bending of government rules, a newly disclosed document shows while Federal rules strictly govern hospitality expenses, especially when food and drink are provided free to civil servants.

Just last week a medical Doctor, one of my cardiologists too,  himself told me that most of Canada’s politicians are alcoholics, for  it seems liars and alcoholics are the best candidates suitable for getting the job? Unacceptable always too.

Not one cent of taxpayer’s money should be used to buy now any entertainment booze starting with the evangelical Prime Minister  Stephen Harper who is known for giving wine bottles as gifts to others

One of my neighbors used to work at a Major Downtown Hotel where the major politicians would come for lunch and fill up  drunk on their martinis, for if you had 2 martinis for lunch now you re legally drunk, incapable to drive so how could you go back to work and do an honest days work? You cannot. He saw even Alberta’s past premier  Ralph Klein give a speech while drunk as well.

I tend to pray for wisdom and guidance, and I was praying as to what kind of Christian Obama was, as I was praying the TV news came on and they showed Obama in a bar drinking alcohol with other alcoholics.. alcohol the substance that causes most of the car accidents, crimes, domestic abuses, violence.. he was not being a good example, and clearly was not exercising self control..

in Canada it seems we have been having minority governments and often reelections and part of the problems here too they are wrongfully electing the liars and alcoholics, instead of decent, good persons.

The Bible also clearly says a leader should not drink alcoholic beverages. And I have a whole post on that too. Living high on the hog in public office, abusing taxpayers money is generally associated with the alcoholics now as well.

1 Cor 6:10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers {and} slanderers, nor extortioners {and} robbers will inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God.

There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink, grape fruit juice yes, fermented grapefruit juice? no!. As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.”

Canada’s “PM Stephen Harper the pretender evangelical as well.. is not the first time he wrongfully gave alcoholic beverages to others, and what next? Playboy??

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/

Obama says he is a good person then let him and his followers now act like it so we all can see it. Cause we all are not seeing it.

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

 

I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate all the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it too.

 

 

 

September 19, 2008

I rightfully openly oppose all these false, bad professing Christians

  
Self regulation is another bad word for masturbation and it is not the real thing
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So still now  what really is needed  firstly is not more CHEAP, PRETENTIOUS  self regulations,   the supposed discipline of their members , or even their ensuring their education, but real INSPECTIONS, EFFECTIVENESS , competency testing. 

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(Micah 2:8 KJV)  Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.
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(Micah 3:5 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.  
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I have even been blogging on the net for decades  and surprisingly It has now been too often the bad professing Christians, bad pastors who have been wrongfully the most abusive towards me and my posts.. jealousy seems to still control them sadly too. Even the false apostle Judas was part of the 12 apostles
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  (Mal 3:5 KJV)  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
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(Jer 24:2 KJV)  One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.
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(Psa 120:7 KJV)  I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
(Psa 140:2 KJV)  Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war.
(Psa 144:1 KJV)   Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:
(Prov 20:18 KJV)  Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice make war.
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I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate all the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it too.
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(Isa 41:12 KJV)  Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought. 
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While the Plymouth Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every passage  of the Bible suitable to their own liking. They also seem to like to eradicate the Bible references to judgement, reaping, sins, Hell, damnation, and I often still do wonder .why? what are they hiding? fearful of? the real truth?

(Isa 42:13 KJV)  The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his e.nemies.

I make no denial, I rightfully openly oppose all these false, bad professing Christians, Plymouth Brethren, Dispensationalist, Fundamentalists, Baptists  who wrongfully  promote Hatred towards the other Christians, the  Catholics, Pentecostals, Charismatic Christians and do now lie about them , slander them too, even on the net, even those in my own family, and I do openly demand these bad persons rightful prosecutions  or repentance
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It is very clear that the Darby Plymouth Brethren, Dispensationalist  Christians to compensate for their failure to try to convert Jewish persons have come up with false reasons for not doing so as well
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There actually is no Biblical basis, promises, prophecy for Israel reclaiming this land in the whole New Testament.. just more Old Testament Jewish spins..
 
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“By embracing Christian Zionist teachings many believers have drifted from “… the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” (Jude 1:3)
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Believers have become involved in politics and war, and have become respecter of persons.
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Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Geneva Bible Notes:
God does not judge men either by their blood or by their country, either to receive them or to cast them away.
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Christian Zionist teaching has caused many a believer to stray from their main purpose on this earth … preaching the gospel to every creature and evangelizing a lost world. Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”
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I too rightfully openly oppose all these false, bad professing Christians
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◾about the False Teachers & Disobedient Christians
◾To the bad preacher
◾You know the commandments
◾Money and the Ministry
◾Selling the gospel for money too
◾LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD MEETS PINOCCHIO IN CHURCH
◾About those hirelings now fleecing the sheep
◾The hireling preacher
◾A Hireling in an evangelical church
◾IS HE A SHEPHERD OR A THIEF?
◾Spiritual Abuse by the so called Christian leaders
◾Bad Pastors, bad deacons, bad elders = bad church
◾Most preachers today do not live by faith in God
◾Christian and Missionary Alliance Corporation C&MA
◾Are you a real Christian, or a pretender, imposter still?
◾The Possession
◾GET REAL NOW
◾Real actions speak louder than mere words
◾WALKING IN SIN, OR WHAT BRINGS OUT THE DARK SIDE IN US..
◾FUNDAMENTAL EVANGELICALS AND SUPPOSEDLY PROFESSING CHRISTIAN CRITICS
◾The prophets prophesy falsely
◾Let no man deceive you
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see also
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 For it is a fact that anything that will put a self regulating body or a Ministry into a negative light will have a built in  tendency still to be denied,   suppressed, minimized in reality, to be ineffective .  

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There in reality is the main  one important step that all consumers can take to protect themselves from any unscrupulous persons  and that is enforced, exemplary public exposure and prosecution of the supposedly guilty persons by a recognized judicial public body,  and so now how many such bad persons now have really been exposed, prosecuted in the last few years in reality too by the responsible Ministers as well?  None? and why not?   
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Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves very ones best interest… too often still missing in the PROFESSIONAL BODIES, EVEN IN THE RCMP, police   forces, churches, ALL GOVERNMENTS  as well it seems too.
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  “about the ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “ 

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THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
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THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
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First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and   proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.
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Next God is fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..

I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.

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WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.
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THE POLICE, RCMP, MINISTERS, GOVERNMENT CONSULTANTS IN CANADA THESE DAYS, IMMIGRANT CONSULTANTS TOO  IT SEEMS , SEEM TO BE ANOTHER WORD FOR ABUSERS, THIEVES, LIARS CROOKS. SO WE ALL NEED TO DEAL WITH IT MORE EFFECTIVELY NOW TOO.

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