the rich man’s social club

                 

                

  

I was sitting in one of the biggest,

most established evangelical churches in Canada

for the first time..

and surprisingly next I heard Jesus say to me,

” Paul what are you doing here?”

shocked I said in reply” I am worshipping in your house?”

 and Jesus replied to me and said

” but these are the rich who persecute the poor people

so I ask you again what are you doing here?:

Embarrassed I shortly next left

and never came back to this bad church.

yet the people in that church were proud of their church,

their accomplishments..

 it too was rather a rich man’s social club

and not a real church..

  

AND IT WAS in the Calgary First Christian Missionary Alliance Church, Stephen’s Harper’s church too 

 

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  

 

 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.

 

The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.

 

drunkenness behavior is unacceptable for any professing, Christian, evangelical persons

especially Stephen Harper or Barrack Obama now as well
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/john-mccain-sarah-palin-barack-obama-and-joe-biden/

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick  persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

Can we believe the liar Harper to keep his promises again?

 

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Can we believe the liar Harper to keep his promises again? will he really now resign from Politics, or as the leader of the Conservative Party?

Matt 25:30 And throw the good-for-nothing servant into the outer darkness; there will be weeping and grinding of teeth.
Matt 25:31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the {holy} angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
Matt 25:32 All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;
Matt 25:33 And He will cause the sheep to stand at His right hand, but the goats at His left.
Matt 25:34 Then the King will say to those at His right hand, Come, you blessed of My Father [you favored of God and appointed to eternal salvation], inherit (receive as your own) the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Matt 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you brought Me together with yourselves {and} welcomed {and} entertained {and} lodged Me,
Matt 25:36 I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me with help {and} ministering care, I was in prison and you came to see Me.
Matt 25:37 Then the just {and} upright will answer Him, Lord, when did we see You hungry and gave You food, or thirsty and gave You something to drink?
Matt 25:38 And when did we see You a stranger and welcomed {and} entertained You, or naked and clothed You?
Matt 25:39 And when did we see You sick or in prison and came to visit You?
Matt 25:40 And the King will reply to them, Truly I tell you, in so far as you did it for one of the least [in the estimation of men] of these My brethren, you did it for Me.
Matt 25:41 Then He will say to those at His left hand, Begone from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels!
Matt 25:42 For I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink,
Matt 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome Me {and} entertain Me, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me with help {and} ministering care.
Matt 25:44 Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?
Matt 25:45 And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me.
Matt 25:46 Then they will go away into eternal punishment, but those who are just {and} upright {and} in right standing with God into eternal life.

Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and  the professing Christians . Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/

The major undeniable  weakness, weakness, discrepancies, shortfall in the soft underbelly of  the personal life of Barrack Obama and even Canada’s prime Minister Stephen Harper is clear, and  is that already   proven  too, that there is a wide discrepancy between what he verbally says he is and  who he really is now and  and what he in fact still next does. Even now starting clearly with his profession of being a real practicing Christian. Barack Obama for continuity he is not a real practicing Christian and he undeniably has violated God laws continually, and there is no excuse for it.. While it is often a thorny issue, discussion in the Christian faith, amongst the protestants and evangelicals whether Christians drinking wine is tolerate now, the Bible in both the old and new testament clearly and undeniably still  says that anyone in a leadership position cannot consume wine, alcohol or get drunk. This is not even subject even to any debate now as well. Both Obama and Bilden do undeniably drink alcohol now.. and what about McCain and Palin now  too?

Again ““Dr. Daniel Akin, President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary has written an article in favor of the famous Resolution #5 (Resolution calling for total opposition to alcohol). Alcohol is the number one drug problem among teenagers. (1 Cor. 8:13; 9:19-22; 10:32-33). Because I am an example to others, I will make certain no one ever walks the road of sorrow called alcoholism because they saw me take a drink and assumed, “if it is alright for him it is alright for me.” No, I will choose to set an uncompromising example of abstinence because I love them.  I will seek my joy and filling in the Spirit not in alcohol. I love the Phillips translation of Ephesians 5:18 which reads, “Don’t get your stimulus from wine (for there is always the danger of excessive drinking), but let the Spirit stimulate your souls.” Psalm 4:7-8 adds, “You [O Lord] have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound. In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.”  There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink,  As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for  leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.” “

(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

(Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough, 

Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];

Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.

The Bible’s suggestions on electing rulers.. good managers

 1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled ( Sober) ; [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,

Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control..   

Undeniably whether you are also a leader or not getting drunk is still an unacceptable sin as well. And all true Christians consider this still a sinful act

 

 Obama amongst some others  reiterated his support for civil unions for homosexuals. No surprise there. Some Christians   do indeed allow for the conferring of some legal rights, short of marital status, on gays as a simple matter of fairness. We cannot legislate or enforce morality. Nevertheless all true Christians consider this a sinful act But I suspect his rationale raised some hackles. “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans”. Barrack Obama. Since when did Romans 1 become obscure? I thought pitting the words of Jesus against those of Paul was a tactic of Red Letter Christians, not something a serious candidate for the Oval Office would engage in.There is no refererence to gay civil unions in the Sermon on the Mount (unless you stretch the Golden Rule beyond all recognition). Perhaps Obama mixed up his Bible references   Is Barack Obama a Red Letter Christian? http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/is_barack_obama.html

 

 

McCain Versus Obama on Medicare

 

Trying to hold down costs and give more choices to consumers, McCain wants to take a market approach to inject more competition into the health-care system.    

McCain promises to provide up to  $5,000 tax credits to those richer families who can afford it likley so that they may go buy insurance fit for their needs.

 

Face it tax credits often only  help the already rich and not the poor people.. and that is why I tend not to vote for the Conservatives who tend to support the rich, the business people over the poor people. Jesus himself cared about the welfare of  all of the poor people and so did his Apostle next too as stated in the Bible, the Book of Acts.

 

Obama mandates equal, free health care for all. But someone next still has to vote it in and pay for it next for Obama’s  proposal, and who will that be?

 

When the US governments to date are willing out to bail rich corporations with social aid but not to help all of the poor citizens as we have recently seen in the Wall street corporate bail outs.

 

Even Small-business owners face continually rising costs as they try to provide coverage for employees. And those people who have coverage might face higher out-of-pocket expenses when they go to the doctor.

 

For the present McCain’s plan encourages competition, and won’t cost the government or taxpayers anything extra. But will it help the poor people? tax deductions mean nothing still when you are not earning much..

 

Obama’s plan erases competition, and not only will cost taxpayers eventually an arm and a leg? but hopefully will completely eliminate the already deteriorating efficiency of doctors’ offices across the nation.

 

But firstly does even Medicare still properly manage any of the Doctors who are gods and they next still do what they want to do, not caring what anyone says? 

  

A proposed Universal Health plan coverage does likley  means more  free doctor visits and coverage, with Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer or  the government footing the bill?  

While  government regulations may even drive doctors away in search of freerer markets they cannot go to Canada where Medicare is already free and works, it is an established fact for every citizen of Canada  

If you think insurance companies are hard to work with, some will now say  the local state governments, Bureaucrats will install never-ending restrictions, limiting doctors’ abilities to treat injuries or illnesses with top-of-the-line medicine.

The too often still mostly self centered, greedy  Doctors tend find both system hard to work with. 

In realty Doctors conflicts and medicare limitations  is true even still in Canada where clearly the quality of Medicare care available but sill falsely varies from province to province, from city to city too, and the big, older, more established cities in east East such as Montreal, Toronto  still tend to provide the best overall Medicare care especially for the elderly.

The free Universal Health care plan is still even in Canada is a pretentious Myth, because provincial budget limitations do now still restrict the number of operations any hospital can do annually, even for critical items such as heart operations, all meaning that there is still a false partiality,  approval, for there is still a selection process and most sick and needy persons  next do get left out from getting the heart needed surgery.  

 Younger persons, influential people, and Hospital  workers, and their relatives seem to get the first surgery selections.

 

Still some persons  try to say Everyone needs coverage, but not equal coverage. Provide assistance only to those who need it, but do so in a way to promote a competitive environment in which doctors and their patients can choose their own medicinal practices and allow those that are willing to pay for better insurance to get it. But do any of  it quick cause people are needlessly dying without Medicare.

 

P:S  I have been using 2 separate Bayer’s glucose, diabetes instruments, meters for 2 years.. It turns out they are both faulty, giving serious erroneous results, which led to me going needlessly to the emergency department, and my doctor increasing my diabetes medication as well, causing addition negative personal side effects  when my sugar level was rather normal

 

I first contacted Bayer’s by phone, and confirmed my concern by EMAIL ALSO AND  they refused to talk to me about the matter, they also did not even knowledge my email. So I next POSTED   it on the net  for all the read and deal with it too, including at http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/mccain-versus-obama-on-medicare/

 

 30 DAYS LATER I NOTICE THAT SOMEONE IS SEARCHING FOR BAYERS.CA ON MY SITE.

 

NEXT I GET A LETTER FROM THE ONTARIO MINISTRY OF HEALTH ACKNOWLEDGING MY now OLD LETTER AND SUGGESTING I CONTACT THE FEDERAL HEALTH MINISTER ABOUT IT DIRECTLY, WHICH I DO, AND THEY SHORTLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY WRITTEN CONCERN PROMISING TO LOOK INTO THE MATTER.. and yeah when?

 

NEXT I SURPRISINGLY GET A LETTER TODAY FROM BAYER’S ASKING ME TO RETURN THE DEFECTIVE METERS AND STRIPOS FOR TESTING.. not to an impartial laboratory, but to Bayer’s directly. I next do personal phone them today, 1-800-268-7200,  REFERENCE #2008-0810-na-st , and I specially tell them I will not return the equipment, strips to them  since these meters are now direct evidence of how inadequate their meters were, are also

 

I expect all health ministers to review these matters STILL IN  full too. Bayer  CRAPPY DIABETES EQUIPMENT  need to be supervised, regulated as you can see why here in.

 

I like to write an email  letter directly to a person, and to next   insure undesirability of my complaint, demand of my rightful action, to send a copy to the news editors, politicians, but  also to post the letter on the net and tell them all it is on the net.. even the last 2 decades, and from my experience that is the only thing that works.

I have a civil engineering degree, Concordia University , Montreal 1968, and I had worked as a Remax Realtor in Calgary too but in my decades of real life experiences in Canada the existing laws, regulating societies, governments clearly did not stop many Realtors, Lawyers, Cops, Pastors or even now Bell Sympatico, Corporations  from telling lies to the customers, others

 

I HAD  learned from Amnesty International that putting things in writing, writing to the right party is the best approach TO DEAL WITH SUCH ABUSES, PROBLEMS. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty service every one  best interest and that is why I have detailed on the net as well. The internet itself is the most powerful weapon, for the pen is mightier than the sword..

 

LET US ALL STOP HIRING, ELECTING LIARS OR THE ALCOHOLICS

 

 

Five candidates running in Saskatchewan’s April 4 election have had impaired driving convictions, including three from the Saskatchewan Party and two from the Saskatchewan NDP.

Sask. deputy premier Don McMorris resigns after impaired-driving charge. Impaired driving still number one killer on Sask. roads  “I am very disappointed in his actions. Drinking and driving risks and ruins lives and is completely unacceptable,” said Wall. Premier Brad Wall said   In February, SGI’s annual report on traffic accidents in Saskatchewan showed the total number of collisions involving alcohol in 2014 was the lowest it had been in five years. However, the number of fatal accidents involving alcohol didn’t follow that trend, with 17 more people killed in crashes involving alcohol in 2014 than in 2013.

Newly elected Liberal Member of Parliament comtted  himself to rehab.. and dream on if you think it works.. Rookie Newfoundland  MP Seamus O’Regan back from rehab, 40 days sober: ‘Alcohol was becoming a part of my daily life’. The newly elected  Liberal MP sought treatment for an alcohol problem  said Monday he is “reporting back for duty” in Ottawa. “Over the last year or two, alcohol was becoming a part of my daily life. I regularly had several drinks at the end of most days. Sometimes more than several drinks,” Now why did O’Regan not inform voters of his personal issues before the Oct. 19 vote. And why Trudeau did not require his friend to tackle his addiction prior to becoming a candidate.  There are too many people  in false denial  who are slaves to alcohol or are guilty  of other substance abuse.

OTTAWA — Fisheries Minister Hunter Tootoo has stepped down from cabinet and left the Liberal caucus to deal with addiction issues.Tootoo was a territorial politician for 14 years, and served for a time as speaker of the Nunavut legislative assembly. “Over the last year or two, alcohol was becoming a part of my daily life. I regularly had several drinks at the end of most days. Sometimes more than several drinks,” I was far from my best self.” “Effective immediately, the Honourable Hunter Tootoo has resigned from his position as minister of fisheries, oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard,” Trudeau said in the statement. “He will also be leaving the Liberal caucus.”Tootoo is a cousin of NHL player Jordin Tootoo, who recently authored a book detailing not only his struggles in the NHL, but his continuing battle with alcohol addiction.

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A Liberal  alcoholic politician is now just as bad as a New Conservative alcoholic politician firstly.. and lies just as much.. It seems we have too many cheats, thieves, liars, alcoholics, adulterers for cops and for politicians still in Canada.. for basically there is no such thing as a little bit pregnant, it seems you are basically honest or merely another crook…  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/pm-stephen-harper-does-drink-alcohol/

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Now with the upcoming Canadian election this week I was asked by my neighbors what Political party  would I NOW vote for. Now that still really required some work on my part to find out.

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Now here’s a basic secret I have learned, how they  the political candidates, and their receptionists now do treat me now is generally how they do also next generally treat the others, and so once again,  as I have often done that before too, I thus had decided to visit firsthand some of the local political candidates, to specially visit their campaign office in our riding.. after all I was honestly trying to determine who  I would vote for.. all I do is say hello, watch and listen as to how they respond, and I do evaluate what they do say too.

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And many of you all already know that after my last week  run in in my own home with a bad local existing main party candidate representative , who also is just another false spin doctor, and  bad control freak, for certainty now I would not vote for  them or recommend them.

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So next the first federal political candidate I visited who was the closest one on my journey, and she also now happened to be in, and she welcomed me personally, but within a short while it became very clear to me she only mainly cared about winning over the others, and she only cared about what I could do for her, not what she could do for me or the people in her riding  but now I certainly could not vote thus for her in honesty too. We really do not need another imposter, pretender, figure head in office.

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So next I visited an independent Candidate, and it next  turns out he was apparently a  formal party reject, there must have been good reason why the leader of that party supposedly did not approve of him as a candidate, even though he had supposedly worked for the same party  for 25 years now. The receptionist said to me that I should wait now till he would be back, very shortly and he would like to talk to me. An hour later she phoned him and he was really too busy to see me , but his sister, one of his main campaign workers had now showed up, and she also was not interested in talking to me, she too made it clear she had no use for me, all she wanted was to win.. a loser not a winner.. so he too was not getting my support.  Incidently I had  next met the same candidate in a local church bazaar sale and he blamed his own secretary next  for being   the cause of him not being able to see me before… I have been seeing his poste nig shot in my whole district, but even the mugh shot was a false one, taken a while back, he looked in reality small, weak and very aged.

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How come these people do not understand that a personal referral is one the best way to win.. for the costly advertising is very ineffective still.

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The next Candidate I reviewed she admitted she was only a part timer, she was doing politics part time because she had a main interest in having a financially successful career.. and we do not need that kind of prostitute in office now too.

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Yes it seems I would really still regret if any of these persons would be elected next. We have had enough political  losers already. It is hard to determine the best, right candidate for me in my area.

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An alcoholic clearly is a person who has to, needs to  have two glasses of wine, or two bottles of beer  immediately at least,  like  so many of the other Alcoholic politicians at least about 25 in the  average Parliament? . this is all very interesting in the light that he Barrack Obama tries to maintain undeniably  he is a really good Christian, and he Obama now is  desperately trying to get accepted by the right wing evangelicals, but now  they will never do that when they do even see these pictures.. for sure.. Never!

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Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and  the professing Christians . Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments Alcoholics now are also the  bad people but so are the drug users. They trend to cost significant expenditures for the taxpayers as well..   https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/drink-alcohol-and-die/      http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/

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The major undeniable  weakness, weakness, discrepancies, shortfall in the soft underbelly of  the personal life of Barrack Obama and even Canada’s prime Minister Stephen Harper is clear, and  is that already   proven  too, that there is a wide discrepancy between what he verbally says he is and  who he really is now and  and what he in fact still next does. Even now starting clearly with his profession of being a real practicing Christian. Barack Obama for continuity he is not a real practicing Christian and he undeniably has violated God laws continually, and there is no excuse for it.. While it is often a thorny issue, discussion in the Christian faith, amongst the protestants and evangelicals whether Christians drinking wine is tolerate now, the Bible in both the old and new testament clearly and undeniably still  says that anyone in a leadership position cannot consume wine, alcohol or get drunk. This is not even subject even to any debate now as well. Both Obama and Bilden do undeniably drink alcohol now.. and what about McCain and Palin now  too?

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Again ““Dr. Daniel Akin, President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary has written an article in favor of the famous Resolution #5 (Resolution calling for total opposition to alcohol). Alcohol is the number one drug problem among teenagers. (1 Cor. 8:13; 9:19-22; 10:32-33). Because I am an example to others, I will make certain no one ever walks the road of sorrow called alcoholism because they saw me take a drink and assumed, “if it is alright for him it is alright for me.” No, I will choose to set an uncompromising example of abstinence because I love them.  I will seek my joy and filling in the Spirit not in alcohol. I love the Phillips translation of Ephesians 5:18 which reads, “Don’t get your stimulus from wine (for there is always the danger of excessive drinking), but let the Spirit stimulate your souls.” Psalm 4:7-8 adds, “You [O Lord] have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound. In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.”  There is no record that Jesus drank strong drink,  As a pastor or church leader, would I demand abstinence for  leadership? Absolutely! The principle of Proverbs 31:4-5 is appropriately applied here, “It is not for Kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.” “

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(1 Cor 11:28 KJV)  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30   For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

(Prov 3:33 KJV)  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Jesus himself had said that professing to be a Christian is not enough, 

Matt 3:8 Bring forth fruit that is consistent with repentance [let your lives prove your change of heart];

Gal 5:23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].

Matt 7:16 You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit. 18 A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].  19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. 20 Therefore, you will fully know them by their fruits.

Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunkwithwine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunkwith the wine of her fornication.

Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/christian-attitudes-towards-drugs-smoking-and-alcohol/

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The Bible’s suggestions on electing rulers.. good managers

(Deu 1:13 KJV) Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
(Deu 1:14 KJV) And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
(Deu 1:15 KJV) So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
(Deu 1:17 KJV) Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
(Deu 1:18 KJV) And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.

(1 Tim 3:1 KJV) This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:3 KJV) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
(1 Tim 3:4 KJV) One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(1 Tim 3:5 KJV) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
(1 Tim 3:6 KJV) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
(1 Tim 3:7 KJV) Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

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1 Tim 3:2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation {but} must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect {and} temperate {and} self-controlled ( Sober); [he must be] sensible {and} well behaved {and} dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable {and} qualified teacher,

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Alcoholics, wine drinkers, smokers, drug users too they all  tend to have evidentially lost their self control.. but often try to dominate others, are control freaks themselves too. They have negative values and not positive ones mostly still too.

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Undeniably whether you are also a leader or not getting drunk is still an unacceptable sin as well. And all true Christians consider this still a sinful act

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 Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that people are not to be trusted, need to be supervised, and corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well.

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 Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..

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Now as I was reflecting about my many past posts on the net  in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting  it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..(Eccl 8:11 KJV)  Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

Little Known Facts About Obama – Obamapedia Obama does not drink Alcohol

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Almost every internet site, news article before the US president election now had said that Obama does not drink alcohol..

 

and what do we find out after he is elected what kind of alcoholic beer he really likes? what else did he and the others lie about too? 

 

and what abbout Canada’s prime Minister Stephen Harper does he like to drink beer and wine now too?.

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Now is Obama an alcoholic?

 

 I had read on many lying Sites that Barrack Obama does not drink alcohol and  that is not true.. http://www.sofakingdrunk.com/2008/05/09/obama-and-clinton-drinking-alcohol-obama-drunk-clinton-drunk/

 

Obama amongst some others  reiterated his support for civil unions for homosexuals. No surprise there. Some Christians   do indeed allow for the conferring of some legal rights, short of marital status, on gays as a simple matter of fairness. We cannot legislate or enforce morality. Nevertheless all true Christians consider this a sinful act But I suspect his rationale raised some hackles. “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans”. Barrack Obama. Since when did Romans 1 become obscure? I thought pitting the words of Jesus against those of Paul was a tactic of Red Letter Christians, not something a serious candidate for the Oval Office would engage in.There is no refererence to gay civil unions in the Sermon on the Mount (unless you stretch the Golden Rule beyond all recognition). Perhaps Obama mixed up his Bible references   Is Barack Obama a Red Letter Christian? http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/is_barack_obama.html

 

see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/honeymoon-over-obama-and-the-news-media/

   

President Barack Obama sat down for a beer today with Henry Louis Gates and Sergeant James Crowley, the police sergeant who arrested Gates.

Video: Obama’s White House beer summit ITN NEWS

Obama More Bartender Than Mediator At Beer Summit New York Times

Aljazeera.net – The Associated Press – Reuters  – Wikipedia: Arrest of Henry Louis Gates

all 7,298 news articles »

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What Obama now is another  type of Christian? Are there now really so many different types?  My next door neighbor tells me he is a Christian, and he says is a member of the church of Jesus Christ, the LATTER DAY SAINTS, Mormons, and he says now today he reads the Bible and prays daily too.  But  when I started to ask him about what the   Apostle had said in the Bible now about getting drunk,  he next said he did not believe in any of the the 12 apostles  writings, but yes, he believes that these writings  they are in the books that supposedly composing the Common Bible, but he does not  believe they are really part of the valid Bible. So when I next had further asked him what he now had defined as being the true Bible, he said the Bible according to Him now  was solely the spoken word of Jesus. He is another one of  those red lettered Christians..  So I asked him if he believed solely   in the  4 Gospels, the Bible books written now anyway by some of the 12   Apostles of Jesus anyway,  even Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.. and so if he really is now  believing in the 4  Gospel, the  still   Apostolic writings so what was the problem in him now even believing that the Book of Revelation  in the Standard Bible now was aalso a  part of the Bible? After all it was written by the same Apostle John who now had written  the book of John, and the epistles of John now too.. Now he next replied and had said  he did not believe in the book of Revelation as being a part of the Bible. Wow! This is getting all so confusing, needlessly complicated too , listening to him firstly. Really now what does he  believe in cause I really cannot figure out how he picks and chooses to believe, it seems he believes in the ten commandments, but he does not even know what they are still too, he really believes in the Gospel solely according  to him and not the Gospel according to Jesus and the Apostles.. and he admits has these complex rules for Bible interpretations as to what is valid and what is not, all  made by his church, and he next had said I should go to his church to find out what these rules now are. I replied and said I did not need any more of these clearly false mere man made religion, rules to tell me what part of the Bible I should believe in firstly , for the Holy Spirit himself, the spirit of Christ has clearly promised to lead us and to guide us personally now  into all truth, not rather anyone else who admits they do not even believe in the standard Bible now too. The Bible and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever too.  I can read for myself and I can believe in it myself without has clearly distorted directions, guidance, rules now too. . I also either take it all as being  God’s word’s or none of it. It is as simple as that for a start now too. 

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Most of us seem to have a really bad habit of electing liars, electing the people who tell us what we want to hear, AND MANY OF THEM ARE LIARS WHO TELL US WHAT THEY THINK WE WANT TO HEAR SO THEY CAN BE ELECTED. It is not coincidental for me but almost every alcoholic person  now is also a major denier, liar.. they lie they are not alcoholic to start of with, they tend to lie as to how much they really do drink, and they tend do not disclose often where the money for the booze really comes from often too. So when I encounter a big liar I also check to see if they are also alcoholic, or when I know they are alcoholic I tend to also know that they are big liars too. THAT IS WHY I WOULDN’T ELECT A LIAR OR AN ALCOHOLIC TO A POLITICAL OR A CHUIRCH OFFICE AS WELL.   https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/pm-stephen-harper-does-drink-alcohol/

 

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Now it  would it no be really great if we now had really next  elected decent, qualified, non alcoholic persons as well  who really care more than just about the job, about being hired, the money, winning, the office prestige and  if now we did elect  a genuine, good, adequate  politician rather instead  who  really did care  about the good welfare of the people in the riding in reality.. AND WOULD    WORK ON THEIR BEHALF MAINLY AND NOT INSTEAD FOR THEIR OWN OR THEIR PARTY’S BENEFIT MAINLY. 

see also

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/

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http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/

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Evangelcial Pastors do not have to break the law.

  

 

 

“Endorsing from the Pulpit Pastors launch challenge of IRS rules on endorsements.    Pastor Gus Booth remembers when he used to simply encourage his congregation of 150 in Warroad, Minn., to vote each Election Day. Now, he thinks it’s important to tell them which candidate should get their vote. On Sunday, as part of the “Pulpit Initiative” organized by an Arizona-based conservative Christian legal group, Booth is set to join dozens of clergy nationwide in challenging Internal Revenue Service rules that prohibit churches from politicking by supporting or opposing candidates. “If we can tell you what to do in the bedroom, we can certainly tell you what to do in the voting booth,” said the Minnesota minister, an evangelical leader of a nondenominational church, who expects to endorse Republican John McCain during his “Pulpit Freedom Sunday” sermon. “The voting booth is not some sort of sacred cow that you can’t talk about. You’re supposed to bring the gospel into every area of life.” The Alliance Defense Fund announced the initiative last May as a way to challenge IRS rules that date to 1954. ADF spokesman Greg Scott said the organization contacted “pastors, priests and rabbis from every major denomination,” and knows of 33 clergy in 23 states who intend to take part on Sunday. At least one clergyman who was contacted joined in filing a complaint against the initiative with the IRS. “We’re basically aiming to get these rules declared unconstitutional so that pastors have the right to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment,” said Dale Schowengerdt, legal counsel for the ADF. “http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/septemberweb-only/139-41.0.html

 

“Pulpit Initiative About Freedom, not Politics The purpose of the Alliance Defense Fund’s Pulpit Initiative is to restore the right of pastors to speak freely from the pulpit without fear of punishment by the government for doing what churches do: speak on any number of cultural and societal issues from a biblical perspective. The purpose of the Pulpit Initiative is not – as some have said to confuse the issue – about whether pastors should or should not “endorse” candidates. The issue with which ADF is concerned is over who regulates what may be said from the pulpit.

So, the Pulpit Initiative is not about…

· turning the church into a Political Action Committee
· allowing contributions to candidates
· any particular candidate or political party
· “political” speech
· endorsing or opposing candidates

The Pulpit Initiative is…

· a bold defense of the First Amendment’s Establishment, Free Exercise, and Free Speech clauses
· about protecting core religious expression
· only related to what a pastor says from his pulpit, for example, on a Sunday morning (i.e., not about voter guides, candidate appearances, or other “political” activities)

Certainly, congregations and a church’s leadership can tell pastors they don’t want names of candidates spoken from the pulpit. But that is very different from government censorship. To government regulators, today’s “Gospel” may well be words that are tomorrow’s “politics.” ADF has already defended Americans in many cases where publicly preaching words straight from the Gospel has led to censorship…and even jail.  The bottom line is that no enforcement agency of the federal government should be telling a pastor what he can or cannot say from his pulpit about the Bible and his church’s teaching on the issues of the hour – even if the pastor’s sermon applies Scripture and church teaching to candidates and elections. Such agencies certainly cannot condition tax-exempt status–a status churches have always been constitutionally guaranteed since our founding–on the surrender of cherished First Amendment rights. In fact, for 166 years, churches freely preached directly on political candidates’ qualifications for office. That was no problem when the Constitution was signed, or when the first Commissioner of Internal Revenue was appointed in 1862, or when the federal income tax was authorized by the 16th Amendment in 1913. Nor were churches transformed into political machines. When the IRS code was amended in 1954 to ban “intervention” in political campaigns, it was an act of political retaliation by then-Sen. Lyndon Johnson against two anti-communist groups. It had nothing to do with “church politicking,” and scholars agree that churches were not the target of the regulation. ADF has the U.S. Constitution and the weight of American history on its side. Those who oppose the Pulpit Initiative have yet to make one constitutionally-derived argument against it. It is ironic that they laud the “separation of church and state” in opposition to the Pulpit Initiative, but by opposing the initiative, are asking for continued government control and censorship of a pastor’s sermon.The pulpit is no place for government regulators.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2008/09/pulpit_initiative_about_freedo.html

Pastors do not have to break the law. They can merely live by faith in God to provide and now discontinue from giving out tax receipts on all donations and thus be free to speak as any ordinary citizen can. The Bible does not prohibit them from doing this now as well l ike Rev George Mueller did too. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

 

  see first https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/ontario-judge-orders-website-to-reveal-identity/

It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

I have covered a lot of topics..

 

I have covered a lot of topics, but here  what you the readers have now  searched for the most on my sites..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/favorite-christian-based-reading-resources/

Top Searches

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https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/

 

do see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/the-false-jesus-name-apostolic-holiness-church-oneness-pentecostal-christianity/

 

Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely

 

Visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start. 

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicans, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.

 

Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?

 

>> Killing babies (abortion) is a horrific sin that must stop.

 

http://cspanjunkie.org/?p=792 

This is a very impressive speech by Sarah Palin to all Americans and thus it really show why it is no surprise now that the Democrats they to falsely abuse her, bash her now.

Sarah Palin and the Deborah Anointing

After 49 million abortions since 1973, America needs a bold, Holy Ghost-filled woman to model pro-life values in the White House.

 

http://fireinmybones.com/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/the-next-sin-to-become-falsey-acceptable-is/

>> Killing babies (abortion) is a horrific sin that must stop.

whenever I read such one sided, pretentious hypocritical statements being made by any professing Christian now I am clearly reminded that often the very same persons wrongfully tend not to object or preach against marital divorce that God equally hates… 30 percent of professing evangelicals practice divorce, adultery.. thus such real unacceptable hypocrisy here too.  

 

see http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/