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August 9, 2008

Libel on the net

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Google will only remove defamatory material from Blogger when “the material has been found to be defamatory by a court, as evidenced by a court order,” according to Blogger’s terms of service.
 
and some  bloggers have been now denied any further access to  the net  to make any posts by the courts too..

 
 
It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.
 
 
Bashing Pentecostals Christians, evangelists,  on the net even by even the  fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/
 
It even seems too many professing, evangelical,  Christians still think they can  lie about, slander, abuse others, other Christians on the net too, and in Churches now too,  and they think can get away with it too, because the net is supposedly unregulated and churches..  and because of   their own right of free speech.
 
Free speech is a right you still have to use wisely, But one can be sued for libel on the net still in Canada according to the Queen’s courts, and this should applied now in Australia, Great Brian and other commonwealth countries now too. In Canada the RCMP certainly admits to monitoring the net.. While the Internet is in Canada unregulated by the government , the Police  courts still do regulate internet abuse. Of specific interest was the  continual ongoing consistency of deformation of character, personal attacks,  Libel, slander, bullying, the invasion of privacy too.
 
CP    VANCOUVER – A B.C. Supreme Court judge has awarded an Australian man  $180,000 for being the brunt of an Internet tirade conducted by a Nanaimo,  B.C., man.  The case involved the thorny question of how to crack down on  the lawlessness of online libel and slander.  Justice Douglas Halfyard  concluded defamatory statements along with the worldwide exposure of Robert  Griffin’s identity had serious and adverse effects on Griffin’s life and  mental health.  In his judgment, Halfyard found Patrick Sullivan responsible  for publishing four years of false and defamatory statements accusing “that  the plaintiff is a stalker, abuser, harasser, criminal, evil, liar, killer,  sexual predator, pervert, pedophile, coward, manipulator and hate monger who  threatens others with death and violence … and deserves to be jailed and  killed.”  Griffin’s lawyer Dan Burnett said most people don’t have the money  or stamina to fight against those kind of relentless Internet accusations.  “He felt it had to stop and the only way it was going to stop was to do what  he did which was commence the action and seek damages and seek an injunction  and essentially stand up to the bully.”  Burnett said the court award and  subsequent injunction stopping Sullivan from writing anything more about his  client is a warning to other Internet users.  “It illustrates that there is  a line, that when crossed, puts you into court and is a breach of the law.”  The whole situation started with postings on the Internet suicide website  ASH, in which participants discuss suicide and depression.  Griffin became  embroiled in a vicious dispute with several of the members of ASH, including  Sullivan.  The situation escalated when Sullivan published personal  information, such as Griffin’s age, his real name and the fact he lived in  Sydney, Australia. Griffin had been using the name Magnus Pym.  “I have  found that the defendant was, in many instances, indifferent to the truth of  the statements he was making,” Halfyard wrote of Sullivan.  “That is malice  and that is an aggravating factor.”  Included in the $180,000 award is  $50,000 for aggravated damages because Halfyard said the facts “demonstrate  that the defendant was motivated by an unjustifiable intention to injure the  plaintiff.”  Griffin has also been awarded $25,000 for breach of his privacy   and almost $5,000 for expenses which included psychological treatment and  counselling, and payment for interpreting services required to investigate postings on the Internet in Russia.  Sullivan, who acted as his own lawyer,  claimed some of the accusations were true, he raised the defence of fair  comment and also denied making some of the statements.  Sullivan could not  be reached for comment.  Halfyard didn’t agree with the arguments.  “The  defendant failed to prove that any of his many other defamatory statements  about the plaintiff were true. The defence of justification fails.”  Burnett  said the sweeping injunction is especially significant because it forces  Sullivan to stop referring in any way to Griffin and to remove all of his  ranting from the Internet.  “That’s in an Internet world where we think of  things going up and being irretrievable. If you’re the person putting it up  and you have the means to take it down the court might order you to do  that.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

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Canada’s  Supreme Court throws out libel case against outspoken B.C. talk show host   VANCOUVER — The country’s top court has absolved former Vancouver radio personality Rafe Mair of defamation for a commentary.   The Supreme Court of Canada decision in the defamation suit also broadened a key defence often used by journalists to ward off libel actions. In a 9-0 judgment Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Mair was engaging in fair comment in the 1999 radio editorial that was critical of Kari Simpson, a high-profile player in a campaign opposing the use of teaching materials about gay lifestyles in local schools. In the course of the editorial, the controversial former radio commentator made references to the Klan, Hitler and skinheads, although he claimed he wasn’t saying that Simpson actually advocated violence against gays. The judge went on, however, to say that Mair wasn’t liable for damages because he held an honest belief in the views he expressed – one of the traditional elements in the legal defence long known as fair comment. The Supreme Court, in Friday’s judgment   went on to rewrite the legal test for such a defence.  There was no proof that Mair’s dominant motive was personal malice,   and thus “his expression of opinion, however, exaggerated, was protected by the law. “We live in a free country where people have as much right to express outrageous and ridiculous opinions as moderate ones.” A key component of the fair comment defence has long been that the person making the comment must sincerely believe in it. In the course of the ruling, however, the high court modified that test. Commentary must still have a factual basis, be made without malice and be in the public interest, said Binnie. But the test of honest belief is not whether the specific person holding the opinion believed it. The yardstick is whether any person might honestly hold the view based on the facts at issue. Binnie acknowledged that is “not a high threshold” for any defendant to met. But neither is it appropriate to rule out “a piece of devil’s advocacy” in any debate on a matter of public importance.  Mair, who no longer works at the station, said he’s glad they took the case to the high court. “This could be a enormous benefit to the journalism industry and therefore, to the people that read and watch it,” Mair said in Vancouver. http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jdP5CRF6hm0H_fuYFL_m6d_jI7GQ
 
Mind you the same radio station did not like all the bad publicity they got and the radio personality next lost his job anyway.

Anyway all Christians are governed by higher laws even that of showing  love to others, meekness too, humility and purity too… not just whether they can be sued for libel, slander..

“Our US Constitution is one of our greatest assets in the fight against terrorism. A free-flowing marketplace of ideas, protected by the First Amendment, enables the ideals of democracy to defeat the totalitarian vision of al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.  That free marketplace faces a threat. Individuals with alleged connections to terrorist activity are filing libel suits and winning judgments in foreign courts against American researchers who publish on these matters. These suits intimidate and even silence writers and publishers. Under American law, a libel plaintiff must prove that defamatory material is false. In England, the burden is reversed. Disputed statements are presumed to be false unless proven otherwise. And the loser in the case must pay the winner’s legal fees. Consequently, English courts have become a popular destination for libel suits against American authors”   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121599561708449643.html

Too many people  still do believe in their own sole right of free speech still but they  do next try to deny these same right of others by even threatening to sue them for libel, slander.. sound Familiar Mr Stephen Harper PM of Canada? or Bell Sympatico? or the Toronto Airport Fellowship Church pastors? Benny Hynn? etc.,’

The pastors of the Toronto airport fellowship Church and many other pastors, Christians groups on the net  had asked me in writing not to write to them, and what they can preach about the sins of others but I can’t do that to them? What hypocrisy on their parts now still too.  Even in the churches, evangelical pastoral sections there are much too many really bad unacceptable apples still out there.
 
 Too often now our personal rights in this country are now slowly being forcibly demanded to besidetracked to accommodate others wishes by control freaks too …
 
Imagine what Canada would be like if any of the church pastors, government forcibly told the citizens, the columnists, editors, commentators what they could and could not publish. Imagine if we had something like a Ministry of Truth, a Ministry of the Media, a Ministry of Thought. If that doesn’t scare you then you rightfully  scare me.
 
These bullying groups appear to be using any angle within the law, courts,  or their influence to try and become our ’superiors’ in some way.
  
It’s about time that truths that are unpalatable to certain sections of our society be allowed to be expressed. We live in a free country, with the right to freedom of expression and speech. Telling the facts does not constitute a ‘hate’ crime now as well. Only those people who want to curtail or own freedoms while they use theirs  would call this a hate crime. If these various groups or people cannot tolerate anyone’s free speech, or debate, why in the world are they living in the west?  If you don’t like the freedoms that are enjoyed by ALL citizens here, then go live in a country where theirs and your freedom  now is denied.  Without freedom of speech, and the freedom of the press we can no longer claim to be a democratic country. No one has the right to stifle the free dispensing of valuable information. Not even Evangelical pastors.  We must all be be vigilant against any attempts of demonic enslavement of us and the  false hindrances of our own rights.  “Those that try to silence honest, open, and free speech are a danger to this country. I hold that to be true. “
                 
Now in Canada even  I am very used to people the much too many Bullies who  try to falsely dominate you, and these bullies go overboard in their reactions when you expose the truth about them and others  especially when their pet idols, or careers are threatened.  Me I am still rightfully loudly actively resistant  to all of the  abusers, bullies, liars, even to the Church, GOVERNMENTAL, CORPORATE, POLICE  oppressions still too. Even those persons who falsely try to send lawyers or the police to my home to harass me, to try to intimidate me, to shut me up. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well,  and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the Internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.

Let’s face it in life there is a positive  and a negative personal management style
 
just as there  are good and bad persons, leaches included.. such as bad lawyers, bad cops, bad pastors, bad politicians too..
 

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/ 

Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant  guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest
 
We ALSO do  still need to understand, define what abuse and what hate is, and an abuse is to deny a person’s legal, human rights, and hate is the clear opposite of love, meaning an unloving act.. Hate and  Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse in reality too.  And both hate and verbal, physical abuses are  all unacceptable at all times too no matter who you are or who you think you are too. .
 
but honestly critiquing  NOW certain individuals for their own unacceptable bad act is not always HATE. .
 
It is a false statement that if one makes any negative statement about Jews, Muslims, Arabs, white people, natives , etc., that one is  a racist or promoting hatred.. one can be  merely exercising one’s appropriate right of free speech, thought..
 
Now I had witnessed a Person committing immoral, illegal acts many times and when I rightfully reported it next to to the proper authorities, the clearly  guilty  person next  had distorted the truths and lying had said I was promoting hatred towards him and his family, which clearly now was not so. I was a witness of the immoral acts still, unacceptable wrong doings. 
 
Also I do not believe that everyone sets out to be a deliberate racist, it seems to be often merely a poorly thought out stupid mistake for 70 percent of the persons who do it, and many people once they realize what they have done next do even admit their errors and stop it, unfortunately there are the remaining few hate mongers who still do get carried away with their hatred, sins, who need to be incarcerated for their crimes so they can stop and learn not to do it..
 
(Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Cops too  seem to have it too easy in Canada, they do what they want, they abuse citizens and tend to get away with it too. Too many COPS, persons distort  the LAW. it’s meaning still too. 
 
“about the liars, thieves, ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “
 
THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
 
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
 
First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and  detail  proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.
 
Next God also is now fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..
 
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
 
WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.
 
APPROPRIATE  PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST
  
FOR A GOOD NAME IS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN ANY AMOUNT OF SILVER OR GOLD AND A TARNISHED ONE IS WORTHLESS.

 

Now too often I myself also do not agree with the comments,  free speech, but I merely  tend to disregard it it next..

but what I do rightfully oppose still any and all free speech  especially on the so called Christian Churches Internet sites, that is   lying, slanderous, insulting, abusive, bullying, bashing.. such as the false bash of Pentecostals by the Brethren, Baptists, Reformed, etc., haters. Or the supposedly evangelical Baptist pastor who had said in the pulpit that he could not understand what Hitler did that was so bad, I helped to fire him , he now sells life insurance instead.. http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holo.html

( I heard a local Muslim recently say the same thing to me, he could not uderstand what Hiltler did that  was so bad?  and so I asked him what he thought next if I will posted a cartoon on the net with the picture of his so called prophet saying the same thing.. he next quickly got red and objected to it..)

and even here now we all do still have 2 free speech alternatives.. we can post our rebuttal, objections on their Internet site or ours..

or next even take the matter  further to the news media, or  before the provincial Human Right Commissions, and others too..

for not all justice is handled in the courts of Law or by a lawsuit.

Do see also

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/       
 

August 7, 2008

The Spin Game – Evangelicals and their leaders, pastors do play now..

 
Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely
 

 
 do see also

Now in regards to the  “Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23 th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective comments so far.. real negative comments are excluded.

Hey I have said it there are no winners, here, the pastors, and supporter  from  both sides, lie, distort, bash in their endorsement, or criticism, and present mostly partial or  half truths it seems..  Anyone think still that having John and Carol Arnott there at Bentley’s revival rallies is a good endorsement? Not me!!!

Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.

 Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

>so why was walter kambulow now sued by some of these pastors? 
be cause he said that bad pastors were bad friends of Todd Bentley or what? 
 
Do now tell us all what you know about Walter Kambulow and the others firsthand too..
 
It was, is  clearly evident, in this present ungodly Internet wars, in the Ontario Queen’s Commercial court actions  between the Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario, that both sides are involved in revengeful acts, wanting now to pay each other back through the courts now as well.  What anyone still foolish to believe any of them are even now real Christians? And Walter Kambulow firstly admitting to being guilty of unintentionally violating a Canadian court order is not the same thing as any of the parties now yet being found guilty of deliberate libel, or slander.. but  so far it is clearly apparent that both sides here still really are not playing fairly, respecting the spirit or the letter, intent of the Canadian court orders, and yes both sides Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario undeniably are still not at all good examples of Christianity so far too. A clearly eye for an eye approach by both parties still is clearly a carnal approach and not a Christian one. You would have firstly thought the Church pastors themselves would have set a better example here too. I rightfully still have no  respect for any of them now too.
 
This all reminds me of the too common unacceptably allowed , false, misleading advertising of prices of their products by major grocery chains still too. For instance the present normal selling price of a dozen hotdog buns was $2. So a major grocery store chain makes this big flyer next this week advertising a Sale, a selling price of $1 now for the hotdog buns .. but in small print it states that the price is only 6 hotdog buns being sold.. and still a definite misleading play on words and product prices here too.. Last year the honest sale,  price   advertised was  a dollar for 12 hotdog buns. Unacceptable , too often immoral, greedy, price gouging  business persons, immoral lawyers, bad pastors too, so what else is new?
 
MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS CHRISTIAN  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTRD AND SPENT BECAMSE AN ISSUE TOO http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/
Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.
  
Jer 46:28  But I will chasten {and} correct you in just measure, and I will not hold you guiltless by any means {or} leave you unpunished.
 
Jer 47:6 O you sword of the Lord, how long will it be before you are quiet?
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Jer 47:7 How can it [the sword of the Lord] be quiet when the Lord has given it an assignment to discharge?
 
(Micah 3:8 KJV)  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
 
(Micah 3:11 KJV)  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
In love the unacceptable Pentecostal bashers,  critics under disguise of supposedly posting the truth,   who mostly still do use the same unoriginal,  ungodly, lame-brained, fool’s types of arguments, are not only clearly dishonest, uninspired, boring but they do also mostly  have a  personal  agenda that is so transparent that sadly they are  are an embarrassment, their agenda clear involves the fact  want to uplift themselves, their own gospel, sect, denomination mostly still as well. In love they should really read and practice the whole Bible firstly themselves.

Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.
 
There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many personal encounters experiences Canada wide too   that I had  but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead..
 
The bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot.
 
In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..
 
“They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this TACF group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..
 
Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”
 
and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..” http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/    http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/#comment-29644
 
I admit I have been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are , as well as the professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
 
I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too..
 
But I know from many years of Canadian experiences that 70 percent of pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..
 
and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..
 
Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches are not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.
 
Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
 
Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….
 
You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practise tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.
 
It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html    , http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/
     
“The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf
 
Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.
 
Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.
 
“It’s also to be noted that that Superior Court of Ontario heading of the Justice Campbell’s ruling concerning TACF et Al v. Kambulow stated it was a “commercial court” establishing the fact that Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a commerce suing Walter Kambulow as a commerce and it is not a church of Jesus Christ!   Mr. Kambulow requests Mr. Howard Winkler be immediately disbarred from the Court by your Honor for this motion or any other matter concerning Mr. Walter Kambulow as we cannot have in Canada Solicitors taking their liberty to openly lie to Superior Court Justices just to win their case and ignore seeing true justice come about!  It is a fact that Mr.. Kambulow has on numerous occasions through various means has brought to the attention of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Solicitors Aird & Berlis that Canada has strong hate laws and that “hate crimes and public remarks about a private individual Walter Kambulow” such as the one made on April 25, 2008 by the Vice President/Senior Pastor of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, Steve Long, are criminal:” Liars for sure!
 
 
I would not be so quick to try to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too. Well I do also ask bad pastors rightfully to repent.
 
Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too. I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.
 
A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter. But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open. I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too. this adultery is all so common and   was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.
 
I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too. None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?
 
I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too. When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not. I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too
 
I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.
 
and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

Do deal with this all, rightfully these bad Canadian pastors. Let us all know what you have done about it too. Even Reference: “Fraud, Embezzlement, Illegal Tax Free Benefits By The Executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship John Arnott and Steve Long .”

Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.       

>Todd Bentley is of the adversary. The best thing for everyone is for him to fold his tent quickly and leave the scene.
 
Ironically my own twin brother Walter Kambulow in total contrast to me holds also that Todd Bentley is totally a false prophet, and while I may agree with some of the reasons for this view, Todd has bad friends, bad associates too, and I also may not agree with the manner he Todd as well does things, even like selling things like books, tapes or candles, or whatever in any Church for since Jesus himself said my house is a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves.             
Not only do I mostly not agree with my brother or his views, approach too but I have said myself in love to my own brother that he himself, and yes also some of the others,  the bad pastors are false prophets, after all who better to know him too than his own brother as what he is really like.
 
But I do respect his and your right of free speech, having your own views, and even to be fully heard now as well..
 
(John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 
(John 15:23 KJV)  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
 
(1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
 
(1 John 2:11 KJV)  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
(1 John 3:15 KJV)  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
 
(1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
  
IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops, bad politicians
     
When I busy working as a professional engineer  I personally  had not time for or a real concept or  how bad the real world is with much too many liars, thugs, bullies, abusers, distorters, racists , thieves, now too.. and someone how next I could not help but encountered many of them, but by I had by now learned how to best deal with them.  It is a two fold approach, first the Public exposure, the pen is mightier than the sword, and a good name is worth more than any silver and gold. But next also there is rightful demand, a need  for their  termination of emeploybnment, their real prosecution of the guilty, bad persons.  Both of these approaches personally so works best, for everyone’s’ betterment. Ideally and rightfully I  do not hesitate to recommend any crook, bad minister, bad pastor, bad news reporter as well to be fired , terminated from his our her  job.  Sadly there are many people in this world who are hatred mongers, they have a false persistent agendas against some others, and they for many wrong reasons now wrongfully pursue much of their time in these matters now too foolishly and unwisely. Too often they the bad people firstly proclaim themselves as angels of lights, good Samaritans try to help others, but rather it too often seems they are merely trying to gain an advantage over others, and to promote themselves in some powerful, key job, economic, superior positions under these false agendas, disguise’s in all kinds of social groups now too, the religious, political, cultural, governmental. Now I really hate these types of snakes and I rightfully do not hesitate to expose them once I encounter them.
 
Now we all know that in north America we all do really have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, the right to be hard now as well.. Some people are now falsely abusing these right to promote a false war against a particular Christian group, the Pentecostal ones, or even the Catholic ones, etc. When I see this kind of unacceptable personal behavior I too do not accept it but do loudly object to it to all and do ask these hate mongrels be immediately fired, put in jail as well. No matter who they are now too. Even in regard to now ====
  
“Sarah Palin losing her sway over Christian voters
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/thesearch/default.aspx
 
The Sarah Palin effect, which brought evangelicals and other Christians rushing on to the Republican wagon when her nomination was announced, is now fading. In some cases fast.
 
A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin, who has deep Pentecostal roots in Alaska. White evangelicals, the crucial group that got George W. Bush into the White House in the past two elections, are beginning to edge away from the Republicans. Their support has dropped from 74 to 67 per cent in the past week or so.
Meanwhile, pollsters are beginning to predict that mainline Protestants, who tend to be more liberal than evangelicals, are moving firmly to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. The Democrat contender is now attracting 48 per cent of mainline Christians’ votes. As well, non-Hispanic Catholics have also switched and are now leaning more to Obama-Biden than McCain-Palin.
 
Go here for Pew’s easy-to-read poll http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=349
 
Comment by todd — October 26, 2008 @ 8:13 pm 

Thanks for your input Todd, this is the second time you posted back to me on my blog, unusual for a news reporter to comment on my blog too.http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-already-has-energized-conservative-religious-leaders/#comment-1746#comment-1746

>>A poll by the respected Pew Forum has found that some white evangelicals are losing their excitement about the political coupling of John McCain and Palin

My personal straight forward, honest, personal summation, experiences of Politics, dealing with you, the Vancouver Sun as well, and pollsters… they are statistically just liars, biased, people with hidden agendas.. and I told you that now in writing too many times too.. I rightfully have no respect for what you write still about Christians, evangelicals and so do many others now too.

what about the polls that show 30 percent of white people will also not vote for a black persons? racisms exists in the churches and police stations now too.

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now..

But the fact that Sarah Palin is getting now so much free publicity attention even from the liberals, democrats it all next simply means when I see the devil breathing on her back, she must be doing something really really good

Any possible Christian support of Obama is another liberal, democratic, news media false spins.. just like the devil often dos the same thing.. I read many of their emotional, gushy, lying, slanderous , sewage posts, opinions, but they are spins, lies and not facts and the US news media has lost loads of credibity, CNN especially the big liars, in their slanted election presentations, and that fact is not unnoticed.. but that was the same complaint thing they had often said about the Canadian News media, CBC, under the liberals who lost next.. wow!

And basically too no true, real practicing Christian would support the clearly anti Christ Obama.. who does supports abortions, gay marriages, alcohol as well..

My site statistics undeniably do show Sarah Palin is the most read topic in the last few months of over 100 different subjects, topics on my 6 related blogs, and that support I encounter is the tip of the iceberg only.. 80 percent of the posts read are about her.

Even the Canadian PM Stephen Harper, and the federal election. Bilden, McCain, Obama do not get 10 percent of her attention too.. the undeniably crooked Christian Missionary alliance church got just as much attention now, 10 percent  as they all did as well.. note this a new runner up in reading POPULARITY is the bad RCMP, bad Traffic cops of Alberta next.

As I also wrote often to thousands, Canadian politicians and news editors too now.. The truth about the ungodly Pentecostals bashings, wars against the Pentecostals on the net, even by the Vancouver Sun now too, or anyone else… is that I also still do not have to accept it or put up with it still too,  it is  an unacceptable perversity, human rights abuse, immoral. And it better stop otherwise I too will have to write to a lot more people about it too.. very much more..

A Catholic Priest had rightfully said that the professing Christian the now ex Liberal  Prime Minister Paul Martin should be excommunicated from the Catholic church also, FOR HIS SUPPORTING GAYS, GAY MARRIAGES, AND NEVER MIND HIM ALSO SUPPORTING ABORTION AND ALCOHOLISM, and while the Liberal spin doctors next  said this was a non critical issue, well it appears Paul Martin should have   been  excommunicated from the Church but  should have also been also excommunicated from the Liberal party for  HIM BEING ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS HIS PARTY LOST DEFEAT TO THE NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY AND IT NO LONGER CAN GET BACK  UP ON IT’S FEET AS A RESULT IT SEEMS TOO.

Finally in  Canada the LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA IS NOW SERIOUSLY RECOGNIZING, NOTICING THE EFFECT OF THE RELIGIOUS PERSON’S VOTES.. it is kind of  too late for them and others to do it too once they the religious right  had helped to form and to elect  the Reform Party to eliminate next the Progressive Conservative federally and also had next helped to form, elect the new Conservative Party to to defeat the Liberals..  

I have been detailing for decades the significant influence in Canada  that the Christian priests and pastors have on their congregation, others. Few people had wanted to admit it at all.

So the Federal   Liberals for their past support of gays, abortions are now paying a big  price for it .. they are even broke.. no money.. and had lost too many supporters.. they reaped what they had sowed..

Liberal G Kennedy in Ontario is the choice of the religious right as well. Thanks to even ex PM Paul Martin  who seems to be dreaming of a comeback too Canadian Catholics flee the Liberal Party  in droves too. 

“Catholics flee Liberals in droves  Catholics have always voted Liberal, until recently As Canada’s once-mighty Liberals consider their future, they might be advised to visit a local church-and not just to pray for the party. The religious vote, it seems, played a major role in their recent election defeat. According to new data from Angus Reid Strategies provided exclusively to Maclean’s, Catholics-who make up 44 per cent of Canada’s population and have preferred the Liberals for decades-are flocking to the Conservatives. Catholic voters back parties that are community-minded, says Andrew Grenville, Angus Reid’s chief research officer. And in 2006, for the first time, they shifted their support to the Tories. This year’s results confirm the trend: outside Quebec, 49 per cent of Catholics who attend church weekly voted Conservative, compared to just 38 per cent in 2004. Within Quebec, where upwards of 80 per cent of the population identifies as Catholic, the switch away from the Liberals is even more striking. In 2008, just 22 per cent of Quebec Catholics voted Liberal, compared to 56 per cent in 2004. “Looks like we have a new status quo,” Grenville says. It’s not just Catholics who’ve had a change of heart. Protestants, who make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties, but over the last four years, there’s been a big shift toward the Tories. In 2008, 64 per cent of church-going Protestants outside of Quebec chose the Conservatives, compared to 51 per cent in 2004. Voters who attend so-called conservative churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite, and Stephen Harper’s own Christian and Missionary Alliance) prefer the Tories in even greater numbers: a whopping three-quarters of them voted Conservative this year. What does it mean? “The Liberals have alienated their base, which shows how weak their support really is,” Grenville says, adding that he isn’t very optimistic about the party’s immediate future. “I can’t see Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff appealing to that vote either, which is in part why their prospects aren’t too bright.” 

 Too bad they choose next  the bad Stephen Harper who is really not any better than Paul Marin now was too. http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/11/24/catholics-flee-liberals-in-droves.

And my own experiences with Canadian liberal news media, liberals, liberal politicians are so blind they had undeniably now underestimated the starch of the all of evangelical churches, who had themselves formed the Reform, Alliance, and the new Conservative party, and next had wiped out both the old Conservatives under Brian Mulroney, and the Liberals under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin.. I saw it coming , wrote about it 2 decades ago, but you did don’t see it coming. Do get an honest job now.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

  
  
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.
 

BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS

All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

I corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

(Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

(Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to.. thank you

 
Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too? 

At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders.”Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeat- edly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Charac- terizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord. (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! “

“SUSAN LAZARUK and ANGUS LOTEN Montreal Gazette Just four people turned out for a rally against gay marriages in front of Paul Martin’s constituency office in LaSalle yesterday afternoon. Calling themselves “true Christians,” the tiny group joined hundreds of others across the country yesterday at what they called a national prayer vigil urging MPs to vote against same-sex marriage legislation. Organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people to more than 200 prayer rallies across Canada. “I have nothing against gay unions. What I don’t like is the prime minister telling us what to do in our churches,” said Paul Kambulow. Kambulow said he learned about the rallies, organized by a coalition of religious groups, over the Internet. “I believe in democracy and God plus one is a majority vote,” he said. Martin, who could not be reached for comment, was not in his office yesterday. Elsewhere in Montreal, similar prayer vigils also appeared to fizzle, as few people showed up at the riding offices of other federal MPs. Journalists outnumbered protesters in front of Justice Minister Martin Cauchon’s office. “Same-sex marriage is completely opposed to God, his principles and why he formed man and woman,” said Jackie Bourque, one of nine protesters, including a couple of children, who gathered on the steps of Cauchon’s office. “He did not form Adam and Steve, but Adam and Eve.”http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/

  

PS Only 4 persons had showed up to pray against the then Prime Minister Paul Martin MP and he Paul Martin unexpectedly, unbelievably shortly after that had lost his office of Prime Minister, and why did so many people show up in the first place? God only needed 2 persons to agree in prayer on this in Jesus name and he would have acted upon it as well. The prayer meetings had fizzled out? you now got to be joking.. they had did their job.

 

No matter what the goal is, or how valueable it maybe,  leading others to Christ included, the ends do not justify the means by anyone, pastors, elders, deacons, others , and cheating, lying, stealing included now.. How you get there is as important as where you are going. Asked also now Moses and all the people of Israel who missed the promised Land cause they had simply refused to do it God’s way.

 

Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicans, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.
 
Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
 
see also
 

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/ http://witnessed.wordpress.com/?s=bad+Pentecostals etc

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/the-declining-economy-and-the-federal-elections-are-the-voters%e2%80%99-top-concern/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/unbeliveable/

 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-collection-of-christian-literature/

 
Visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start. 

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    (Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
     
    There are still much too many persons with a big bad mouth even  in my own related families, who got so used to wagging  their big bad  tongues, telling their lies about others, that next  they had falsely started to think they can and will get away with it for ever.. and they are next shocked when they are rightfully not only rebuked, but  fully exposed to all as to who they are really .. slanderers, liars and human rights abusers..

     

    Healing Evangelist Todd Bentley to Fold His Lakeland Tent

    Ledger ” Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.  LAKELAND | Evangelist Todd Bentley, whose unorthodox appearance and methods have attracted worldwide attention, will leave the long-running revival he has led here, it was announced Monday, although the local pastor who brought Bentley to Lakeland vows the revival will continue.

    Bentley’s last day leading the Florida Outpouring revival will be Aug. 23, said Lynne Breidenbach, revival spokesperson. The enormous white tents on the grounds of Sun n’ Fun Fly-in, where the revival has been held since early June, will be taken down after that night’s service.

    The Florida Outpouring began at Ignited Church of Lakeland on April 2, with Bentley, a 32-year-old Canadian, as a guest evangelist. Bentley was originally scheduled to lead services for a week, but when large crowds began flocking to the church, he agreed to stay on, and the revival has continued every day since then.

    Hundreds of thousands of people from across the United States and the world have attended the revival, which outgrew at least four venues before tents were set up at Sun n’ Fun. Early on, the services were streamed live over the Internet, and some observers have credited the Internet for the rapid growth of the revival.

    During the past several weeks, Bentley occasionally has been absent from the evening services, turning them over to guest evangelists or associates of his evangelistic ministry. He will return to lead the services tonight, but he already has scheduled appearances at revivals in Los Angeles; Louisville, Ky.; and Spokane, Wash., before Aug. 23.

    “He’s going to be here regularly, just not seven nights a week,” Breidenbach said.

    After leaving the Florida Outpouring, Bentley will conduct revivals overseas, including in the United Kingdom and Sudan, according to his ministry’s Web site.

    The Rev. Stephen Strader, pastor of Ignited Church, said Bentley made the decision to relinquish leadership of the revival last week.

    “He and I had both been praying about what God wants us to do,” Strader said. “There have been all sorts of rumors, but everything is OK. This has nothing to do with anything else.”

    Ignited Church will continue the revival, holding services every night after Bentley leaves, Strader said. And he is negotiating with other Lakeland churches to host services a few nights a week.

    “We’re ready to take over. We don’t know at this point what venues we’ll use,” he said. “Most services we’ll be able to handle here at Ignited. We do anticipate crowds dropping off after Todd leaves.”

    But Bentley may put in an occasional appearance. He plans to keep an office in Lakeland, in addition to his Fresh Fire Ministries headquarters in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Breidenbach said.

    One of the churches that might participate in ongoing services is Believers Fellowship, at which Jeff Garvin, a Bentley associate, has preached in recent weeks.

    “Stephen Strader is really the right man for this,” said the Rev. Wayne Friedt, pastor of Believers Fellowship. “He’s experienced, he’s prepared. They’ll still pack out Ignited Church.”

    Bentley, covered with tattoos and employing antics borrowed from professional wrestling, has proved controversial. The revival has drawn attention for its claims of numerous miraculous healings of serious illnesses. Bentley has also claimed that more than two dozen people have been raised from the dead as a result of prayers offered at the revival.

    Even some fellow Pentecostals have questioned whether Bentley’s revivals have placed enough emphasis on preaching and calls for repentance. A recent set of guidelines from the Assemblies of God, the largest predominantly white Pentecostal denomination in the United States, seemed to question the Florida Outpouring’s emphasis on miracles. Local pastors have expressed skepticism about exaggerated claims.

    Recent news reports have been unable to verify any of the claims of healing, although Strader said privacy concerns and laws forbidding the release of medical records have prevented revival officials from releasing complete information about the identities and conditions of people claiming to be healed.”

    When in contrast you do next read the many next rather distorted  but supposedly Christian, Baptist  versions of the same event  on the net  it  tends to read  and sounds like a soap opera,  biassed, cheap trash,  garbage posts.

    Funny eh.. And I thought all Christians were to be good, kind, loving persons.. clearly I was really wrong ehh..

    Revivals, the baptism of the Holy spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , tongues, Prophets, Apostles, miracle workers, have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, and  mainly in the fundamental religious circles even because many of these people, too often false critics  are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too.  They need to grow up spiritually as well.

    see also https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

    Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one’s personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.

    >Todd Bentley is of the adversary. The best thing for everyone is for him to fold his tent quickly and leave the scene.
     
    Ironically my own twin brother Walter Kambulow in total contrast to me holds also that Todd Bentley is totally a false prophet, and while I may agree with some of the reasons for this view, Todd has bad friends, bad associates too, and I also may not agree with the manner he Todd as well does things, even like selling things like books, tapes or candles, or whatever in any Church for since Jesus himself said my house is a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves.        

    Not only do I mostly not agree with my brother or his views, approach too but I have said myself in love to my own brother that he himself, and yes also some of the others,  the bad pastors are false prophets, after all who better to know him too than his own brother as what he is really like.
      
    But I do respect his and your right of free speech, having your own views, and even to be fully heard now as well..
       
    (John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
     
    (John 15:23 KJV)  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
     
    (1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
     
    (1 John 2:11 KJV)  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
     
    (1 John 3:15 KJV)  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
     
    (1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
     
     
    Bashing Pentecostals Christians on the net even by fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too

    https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/

    http://cid-74fd848f21ffb8e9.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Christian%20Literature

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/healing-todd-bentley-florda-lakeland-revival/

    http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/does-god-speak-to-you/ 

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/posted-top-posts-and-pages-read/

     

     

    July 4, 2008

    All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat

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    All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat to this Western Canadian Conservatives

    Dion a threat to the West Calgary Herald,  Canada –  vain hope that they can turn those feelings into enough votes to dethrone Prime Minister Stephen Harper whenever he gets around to calling an election.
    NDP prepares star candidate for Westmount
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    Prime Minister Stephen Harper has until July 26 to set a date for the vote. It is widely expected to be held in September along with a second by-election in
     
    All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat to the undeniable  too often self centered, greedy, immoral, abusive West meaning Alberta mostly..

    I HAD  LIVED IN CALGARY FOR 15 YEARS AND WHEN I SAW FIRSTHAND WHAT ALBERTAN CONSERVATIVES WERE REALLY LIKE I RIGHTFULLY HAD TORN UP MY CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT CARD AND BECAME A LIBERAL RATHER.

    Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
     
    Is 51:23 .. your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

     

     

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/how-many-rich-people-in-calgary-edmonton-alberta/

    Verbal abuses.. Much too common these days

    Filed under: Christianity,News and politics,Uncategorized — thenonconformer @ 3:43 pm
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    Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
     
    Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

    (Prov 21:9 KJV)  It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

    Bullies, abusers, liars, slanderers tend to be clearly immoral persons who try to enslave others uancceptably even if they profess to be Christian or what ever,,

    >>My ex-husband smokes pot and drinks a lot, and I am told, so does his girlfriend. He once told me that I am too righteous because I don’t drink or do drugs, and I attend church.

    and that was a verbal abuse if I have ever seen one..

    so do thank God daily that he has now removed your from this  abusive relationship..

    and do ask Him, God  to take all the tears away and he will.

    (Psa 4:8 KJV)  I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

    (Rev 21:4 KJV)  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

    and there still can be a good life after divorce with God’s help…

    Truly any type of abuse is unacceptable and anywhere too

    and exposing it loudly in public as well as calling the police is the best way to deal with it for everyone’s benefit, the abuser included.

    God himself clearly does not accept verbal, physical, or human rights abuses

    (Mat 18:6 KJV) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

    (Mat 18:7 KJV) Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

    (Mat 18:8 KJV) Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

    No we ALL cannot STOP, take the ostrich approach under the guise of love to the definite bad acts of others, we as Christians are still called to be fruit inspectors of those who profess to be Christians ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY RARELY QUOTE IT in actual context OR LIVE THE BIBLE THEY CLAIM THEY BELIEVE IN-

    (Gen 31:42 KJV) Except the God of my father, the God of Abraham, and the fear of Isaac, had been with me, surely thou hadst sent me away now empty. God hath seen mine affliction and the labour of my hands, and rebuked thee yesternight.

    (Lev 19:17 KJV) Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

    (Neh 5:7 KJV) Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

    (Psa 119:21 KJV) Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

    (Prov 24:25 KJV) But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

    (Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.

    (Eccl 7:5 KJV) It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

    (Mat 17:18 KJV) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

    (Mark 1:25 KJV) And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

    (Mark 4:39 KJV) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

    (Mark 8:33 KJV) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

    (1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

    (2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

    (Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

    (Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

    (Heb 12:5 KJV) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

    (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

    “This is from the book by Patricia Evans http://andthenshecried.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/the-verbally-abusive-relationship-how-to-recognize-it-and-how-to-respond

    Verbal abuse is a kind of battering which doesn’t leave evidence like physical abuse does. However, it can be just as painful, and recovery can take much longer. The victim of abuse lives in a gradually more confusing realm. In public she is with one man, in private he becomes another. Often, for the verbally abused woman (man), there is no witness to her reality and no one to understand her experiences. Friends and family continue to see her ex, the abuser, as a really good guy and, certainly, he agrees with them. The verbal abuser, while maintaining his charm with others, always takes his abuse behind closed doors. It is a means of holding power over his wife( husband) /partner.. Many women and some men leave a marriage and come back into the singles’ world with the diminished self-esteem that comes from a verbally abusive relationship. The fact that many of these women (men) have never even realized that they were being abused, makes it easy for them to enter another abusive relationship. A verbal abuser is an insecure person and immature person who is looking for power and control over another.In order to help you recognize abuse, remember that all forms of verbal abuse are methods of manipulating you for the purpose of establishing power over you. The following are some of the forms of verbal abuse the author helps you recognize.

    1. Withholding: a purposeful, silent treatment.
    2. Countering: a countering of your ideas, feelings, and perceptions, even going so far as to refute what he misconstrues you to have said.
    3. Discounting–a putdown of you or something you hold dear.
    4. Blocking and diverting–this is a sneaky, covert way of violating your dignity.
    5. Accusation and blame: generally involves lies about the partner’s intentions, attitudes, and motives. The author states that accusation and blame is present in all verbally abusive relationships.
    6. Judging and criticizing: lies about your personal qualities and performance.
    7. Trivializing and undermining: abusive behavior which makes light of your work, your efforts, your interests, or your concerns. The abuser attempts to dilute meaning and value in your life. Undermining might occur when your partner laughs at you, for example, when you burn yourself cooking. It is also jokes at your expense. Undermining is occurring when you feel a “so-called joke” is mean rather than funny.
    8. Name calling: no one has a right to call you degrading names. Name calling is verbal abuse.
    9. Ordering: Telling you to do something, rather than asking, or making decisions for you or for the two of you without your input.
    10. Forgetting and denial: the trickiest form of denial is forgetting. Become aware that forgetting is a form of denial that shifts all responsibility from the abuser to some “weakness of mind.”
    11. Abusive anger: this seems to be closely linked to the need to “blow up,” to dominate, to control, to go one up, and to put down. Any time you are snapped at or yelled at, you are being abused.
    Threatening: Physical threats and sexual threats aside, verbal threats are an effort at manipulation. For example, a threat to leave, stay out all night, or take you home immediately is a manipulation for power. The threat of “pending disaster” is designed to shatter the partner’s serenity as well as her boundaries.

    If you counter the abuser or attempt to explain yourself, you will probably be met with such statements as, “I don’t want to hear it, get out of my face” or “Woman you don’t have the brains“, “BYou shouldn’t have said that to me“.

    If you are in a brand-new relationship and see warning signs of verbal abuse, the author suggests you might be wise to let the relationship go. It is not likely that a man (woman) who needs to dominate and control will change easily, if at all. It is also likely that when the newness of the relationship wears off, he will become more abusive. Verbal abuse can become physical in time and physical abuse is always preceded by verbal abuse, according to Evans.If you are in a long-term relationship, you can respond to the abuser as the book suggests and soon discover for yourself whether or not your mate is willing to change and stop his abusive behavior.

    “If you have been verbally abused in your relationship, you may have discovered that explaining and trying to understand have not improved your relationship. Therefore, I recommend that you respond in a new way–a way that will make an emotional, psychological, and intellectual impact upon your mate.”

    The abuser in your relationship may change when he finds that you do know when you are being abused, that you have set limits, that you mean what you say, and that you will not take behavior you don’t like. 

    If the man ( or sadly too often now a women) in your relationship remains abusive, it is not only not your fault,” it is  your responsibility to deal with it, make it public, call the police too.

    Any person cannot still fight with you of you leave his or her presences, even forever.. and there is still a good life after a failed marriage now too. I practise what I preach and often now too.

    The first spouse, love seems  is always the best one in our false pride.. and I know what that is like too.. WE SEEM ALL TO REPEAT OUR BAD TASTE, VALUES.. When they let a person out a prison they generally have a rule not to let them return to his old environment, past home, for five years.. otherwise they will be under the same old bad habits, dispositions too..

    NOTE I lost once everything I had owned.. still next I replaced it all with the same things, even though I never used most of them, old habits and bad tastes DO die hard still too for almost all of us.. 

    Now still reporting publically the abusers, and calling the POLICE TOO most often solves the abuse problem the best.. for if the evil persons do not feel real negative personal consequences, REAL negative public exposures, they really have no reasons to change their bad habits next and likely then never will.

    I rightfully too tend to openly expose all abusers, all bad people, all bad churches, all bad politicians, all bad corporations that I come across, and  often and I  also do do call the police, regulating authorities  often and demand they all be fired,   be put in jail too.

    I was also still surprised how popular this post now is too.

    http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/

    July 3, 2008

    Assemblies of God Pentecostals

    Everyone can be an expert on any topic it seems.. labels and denominations are  just  men’s opinion… I rightfully do prefer to know what the Bible and Holy Spirit says about it. 

    https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

    The problem still with the old and new religions is that they tend not to be supervised adequately, continually scrutinized as they all should be… do note now  the word all.. all humans, groups  tend to go downhill when left on their own.. left unsupervised. 

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    God will always still help youu to be a winner and not a loser.. The power of the Holy Spirit was upon Jesus as He came out of the water    Amen we should acknowledge the Spirit’s and we should re-experience His power. if we have his pwer… in the first place. if not get it today..    (Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.   (Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Do visit and read http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/
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    The Assemblies of God Pentecostal Christians

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     The Assemblies of God has its roots in the Pentecostal revival of the early twentieth century. This revival is generally traced to a prayer meeting held under the leadership of Charles Parham, at Bethel Bible College in Topeka, Kansas, on January 1, 1901. The “awakening” or “revival” spread rapidly to Missouri, Texas, California and elsewhere. In 1906, a three year revival meeting under the leadership of William Seymour began at Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles that attracted believers from around the world. Reports of the revival were carried far and wide by periodicals and other publications that sprang up along with the movement. Independent revivals also began to break out during this time in other parts of the world. The Pentecostal aspects of the revival were not generally welcomed by established churches, and participants in the movement soon found themselves forced outside existing religious bodies. These people sought out their own places of worship, and founded hundreds of distinctly Pentecostal congregations.  Many of these congregations sought to partner with existing religious movements, such as the Christian and Missionary Alliance, but many Pentecostals left following controversy over the doctrine of “The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit“. These early leaders where licensed as ministers by Charles Harrison Mason, founder of the Church of God in Christ, a predominately African-American denomination. It is possible that the Church of God in Christ provided initial credentials to the mostly white Pentecostals who would later form the Assemblies of God. [7]. Jim Crow laws of the South and other racial cultural norms of the early 19th century America contributed to the early demise of racial unity with these Pentecostal leaders with the predominately African-American Church of God in Christ denomination.

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    The Assemblies of God experienced a schism early in their history when they adopted the Statement of Fundamental Truths affirming their belief in the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity at their Fourth General Council in October 1916 in St. Louis. Those that withdrew from the fellowship were known as “Oneness or Jesus Only Pentecostals”, who believed in baptizing “in the name of Jesus Christ” and not “in the name of The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit.” This schism caused the loss of approximately one-fourth of recognized A/G ministers, including all but one minister in the state of Louisiana (Rev. George Harrison remained with the Assemblies of God).

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    In 1988, the loose body of cooperative councils joined under the name World Pentecostal Assemblies of God Fellowship as result of an initiative by Dr. J. Philip Hogan, then executive director of the Division of Foreign Missions of the General Council of the Assemblies of God of the United States. The initial purpose was to coordinate evangelism, but soon developed into a more permanent organism of inter-relation. Dr. Hogan was elected the first chairman of the Fellowship and served until 1992 when Rev. David Yonggi Cho was elected chairman. In 1993, the name of the Fellowship was changed to the World Assemblies of God Fellowship.[9]

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     Doctrine

    Two years after the church’s founding, the pioneers of the Assemblies of God adopted a set of core beliefs for the Fellowship, which remain virtually unchanged. These are known as “The 16 Fundamental Truths.” The Assemblies’ doctrines are summarized in its Statement of Fundamental Truths.[10]
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    Numerous Christian groups share some or all of these tenets — and some positions (like the Trinity) are considered more central to the faith than others. Of these sixteen, four are considered “core beliefs of the Fellowship”, or “Cardinal Doctrines.” These are:

    • Salvation Through Jesus Christ
    • Baptism in the Holy Spirit
    • Divine Healing
    • The Second Coming of Christ

    These statements of belief have a biblical basis and are considered non-negotiable. Below is a summary of the Assemblies of God’s doctrinal positions and biblical references which are used to back up these statements.

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     16 Fundamental Truths

    source: Our 16 Fundamental Truths – General Council of the Assemblies of God – AG.org

    1. The Scriptures Inspired – The Scriptures, both the Old Testament and New Testament, are verbally inspired of God and are the revelation of God to man, the infallible, authoritative rule of faith and conduct. (2 Timothy 3:15-17, 1 Thessalonians 2:13, 2 Peter 1:21)

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    2. The One True God – The one true God has revealed Himself as the eternally self-existent “I AM”, the Creator of heaven and earth and the Redeemer of mankind. He has further revealed Himself as embodying the principles of relationship and association as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. (Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 43:10,11, Matthew 28:19, Luke 3:22)

    The AG doctrine clarifies the position of The Adorable Godhead into ten detailed sub-categories:
    • Defining the “persons” or Trinity of the Godhead (Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 14:16-17)
    • Distinction and Relationship in the Godhead – three persons, one God (Luke 1:35, 1 Corinthians 1:24, Matthew 11:25-27, Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, 1 John 1:3-4)
    • Unity of the One Being of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (John 1:18, John 15:26, John 17:11, John 17:21, Zechariah 14:9)
    • Identity and Cooperation in the Godhead (John 5:17-30, John 5:32, John 5:37, John 8:17,1 8)
    • The Title, Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:1-3, 2 John 1:3)
    • The Lord Jesus Christ, God with Us (Matthew 1:23, 1 John 4:2, 1 John 4:10, 1 John 4:14, Revelation 1:13, Revelation 1:17)
    • The Title, Son of God (Matthew 1:21-23, 2 John 1:3, 1 John 3:8, Hebrews 7:3, Hebrews 1:1-13)
    • Transgression of the Doctrine of Christ (2 John 1:9, John 1:1-2, John 1:14, John 1:18, John 1:29, John 1:49, 1 John 2:22-23, 1 John 4:1-5, Hebrews 12:2)
    • Exaltation of Jesus Christ as Lord (Hebrews 1:3, 1 Peter 3:22, Acts 2:32-36, Romans 14:11, 1 Corinthians 15:24-2 8)
    • Equal Honor to the Father and to the Son (John 5:22-23, 1 Peter 1:8, Revelation 5:6-14, Philippians 2:8-9, Revelation 7:9-10, Revelation 4:8-11)

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    3. The Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ – The Lord Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God. The Scriptures declare:

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    4. The Fall of Man – Man was created good and upright; for God said, “Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness.” However, man by voluntary transgression fell and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death, which is separation from God. (Genesis 1:26,27, Genesis 2:17, Genesis 3:6, Romans 5:12-19)

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    5. The Salvation of Man – Man’s only hope of redemption is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ the Son of God.

    • Conditions to Salvation – Salvation is received through repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ. By the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, being justified by grace through faith, man becomes an heir of God, according to the hope of eternal life. (Luke 24:47, John 3:3, Romans 10:13-15, Ephesians 2:8, Titus 2:11, Titus 3:5-7)
    • The Evidence of Salvation – The inward evidence of salvation is the direct witness of the Spirit. (Romans 8:16)
    • The outward evidence to all men is a life of righteousness and true holiness. (Ephesians 4:24, Titus 2:12)

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    6. The Ordinances of the Church

    • Baptism in Water – The ordinance of baptism by immersion is commanded by the Scriptures. All who repent and believe on Christ as Saviour and Lord are to be baptized. Thus they declare to the world that they have died with Christ and that they also have been raised with Him to walk in newness of life. (Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:16, Acts 10:47,48, Romans 6:4)
    • Holy CommunionThe Lord’s Supper, consisting of the elements –bread and the fruit of the vine– is the symbol expressing our sharing the divine nature of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Peter 1:4 ), a memorial of his suffering and death (1 Corinthians 11:26 ), and a prophecy of His second coming (1 Corinthians 11:26 ), and is enjoined on all believers “till He come!”

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    7. The Baptism in the Holy Spirit – All believers are entitled to and should ardently expect and earnestly seek the promise of the Father, the baptism in the Holy Spirit and fire, according to the command of our Lord Jesus Christ. This was the normal experience of all in the early Christian Church. With it comes the enduement of power for life and service, the bestowment of the gifts and their uses in the work of the ministry. (Luke 24:49, Acts 1:4, Acts 1:8, 1 Corinthians 12:1-31) This experience is distinct from and subsequent to the experience of the new birth. (Acts 8:12-17, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:14-16, Acts 15:7-9)

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    With the baptism in the Holy Spirit come such experiences as:

    • an overflowing fullness of the Spirit, (John 7:37-39, Acts 4: 8)
    • a deepened reverence for God (Acts 2:43, Hebrews 12:2 8)
    • an intensified consecration to God and dedication to His work (Acts 2:42)
    • and a more active love for Christ, for His Word and for the lost (Mark 16:20)

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    8. The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit – The baptism of believers in the Holy Spirit is witnessed by the initial physical sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance. (Acts 2:4). The speaking in tongues in this instance is the same in essence as the gift of tongues, but is different in purpose and use. (1 Corinthians 12:4-10, 1 Corinthians 12:2 8)

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    9. Sanctification – Sanctification is an act of separation from that which is evil, and of dedication unto God. (Romans 12:1,2, 1 Thessalonians 5:23, Hebrews 13:12) The Scriptures teach a life of “holiness without which no man shall see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:14) By the power of the Holy Spirit we are able to obey the command: “Be ye holy, for I am holy.” (1 Peter 1:15,16)

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    Sanctification is realized in the believer by recognizing his identification with Christ in His death and resurrection, and by the faith reckoning daily upon the fact of that union, and by offering every faculty continually to the dominion of the Holy Spirit. (Romans 6:1-11, Romans 6:13, Romans 8:1,2, Romans 8:13, Galatians 2:20, Philippians 2:12,13, 1 Peter 1:5)

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    10. The Church and its Mission – The Church is the Body of Christ, the habitation of God through the Spirit, with divine appointments for the fulfillment of her Great Commission. Each believer, born of the Spirit, is an integral part of the General Assembly and Church of the Firstborn, which are written in heaven. (Ephesians 1:22,23, Ephesians 2:22, Hebrews 12:23)

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    Since God’s purpose concerning man is to seek and to save that which is lost, to be worshipped by man, and to build a body of believers in the image of His Son, the priority reason for being of the Assemblies of God as part of the Church is:

    • To be an agency of God for evangelizing the world. (Acts 1:8, Matthew 28:19,20, Mark 16:15,16)
    • To be a corporate body in which man may worship God (1 Corinthians 12:13)
    • To be a channel of God’s purpose to build a body of saints being perfected in the image of His Son. (Ephesians 4:11-16, 1 Corinthians 12:28, 1 Corinthians 14:12)

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    The Assemblies of God exists expressly to give continuing emphasis to this reason for being in the New Testament apostolic pattern by teaching and encouraging believers to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. This experience:

    • Enables them to evangelize in the power of the Spirit with accompanying supernatural signs. (Mark 16:15-20, Acts 4:29-31, Hebrews 2:3,4)
    • Adds a necessary dimension to worshipful relationship with God. (1 Corinthians 2:10-16, 1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 13, 1 Corinthians 14)
    • Enables them to respond to the full working of the Holy Spirit in expression of fruit and gifts and ministries as in New Testament times for the edifying of the body of Christ. (Galatians 5:22-26, 1 Corinthians 14:12, Ephesians 4:11,12, 1 Corinthians 12:28, Colossians 1:29)

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    11. The Ministry – A divinely called and scripturally ordained ministry has been provided by our Lord for the threefold purpose of leading the Church in:

    • Evangelization of the world. (Mark 16:15-20)
    • Worship of God. (John 4:23,24)
    • Building a body of saints being perfected in the image of His Son. (Ephesians 4:11-16)

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    12. Divine Healing – Divine healing is an integral part of the gospel. Deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement, and is the privilege of all believers. (Isaiah 53:4,5, Matthew 8:16,17, James 5:14-16)

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    13. The Blessed Hope – The resurrection of those who have fallen asleep in Christ and their translation together with those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord is the imminent and blessed hope of the church. (1 Thessalonians 4:16,17, Romans 8:23, Titus 2:13, 1 Corinthians 15:51,52)

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    14. The Millennial Reign of Christ – The Second Coming of Christ includes the rapture of the saints, which is our blessed hope, followed by the visible return of Christ with His saints to reign on earth for one thousand years. (Zechariah 14:5, Matthew 24:27, Matthew 24:30, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 19:11-14, Revelation 20:1-6)

    • This millennial reign will bring the salvation of national Israel, (Ezekiel 37:21,22, Zephaniah 3:19,20, Romans 11:26,27)
    • and the establishment of universal peace. (Isaiah 11:6-9, Psalms 72:3-8, Micah 4:3,4)

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    15. The Final Judgment – There will be a final judgment in which the wicked dead will be raised and judged according to their works. Whosoever is not found written in the Book of Life, together with the devil and his angels, the beast and the false prophet, will be consigned to the everlasting punishment in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. (Matthew 25:46, Mark 9:43-48, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:11-15, Revelation 21: 

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    16. The New Heavens and the New Earth – “We, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21, Revelation 22)

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    and like many other Pentecostals, Alliance, Baptist, Evangelical Churches they falsely do not include helping poor people in their own churches as an essential Christian  doctrine now too? why?
     
    (Rom 15:26 KJV)  For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
    (2 Cor 9:9 KJV)  (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
    (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
    (James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
    (James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
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     The Assemblies of God  Pentecostal supporters, members are also  noted for their opposition to the Florida Lakeland revival, and to the Latter day movement, the thirtd wave, .. other Pentecostals and   rightfully as I do dislike their too often abusive unchristian like posts too..  but why the opposition?  Jealous? How worldly, ungodly? It supposedly competes with their own revival? or what??? It is cause the white folks not black folks doing the leading?  Man  you some of the white associate pastors are as bad as some of the bad black pastors too.. but when the white Preacher Todd  Bentley commits adultery during the evangelical outreach.. that is much too much.
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    “The revival has its share of critics. Bloggers such as Andrew Strom have said Bentley does not talk enough about Christ and focuses too much on the “spiritual gifts” of faith healing, prophecies and private supernatural encounters with angels or glimpses of heaven. One local Pentecostal pastor who attended the revival said he came away “uncomfortable.” “I saw a lot of passion from (Bentley), but there was too much hype. I just don’t feel I can endorse something that’s being exaggerated,” said Reggie Scarborough, pastor of Family Worship Center in Lakeland, a charismatic congregation that frequently practices faith healing. “We hear about the dead being raised, but we don’t know who they are or where they are.”

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    Last week, the Assemblies of God, the largest predominantly white Pentecostal fellowship in the country, claiming 2.8 million adherents, issued a statement about revivals that, while not targeting the Florida Outpouring specifically, seems to caution people about it. For example, one guideline warns against Christians being “overly enamored with charismatic manifestations.” The statement goes on: “Miraculous manifestations are never the test of a true revival – fidelity to God’s Word is the test. Jesus Himself said there would be many who would do miracles in His name and even cast out demons, but He does not know them.” Reached by phone from Springfield, Mo., the Rev. George Wood, general superintendent of the Assemblies of God, said the guidelines are intended to instruct church members about any revival but his office had received a number of queries about the Florida Outpouring. angel messagesWood, who said he had watched YouTube video clips of the revival, said one concern related to a claim Bentley has made in the past about encounters with angels named Emma and Wind of Change, from whom he received messages. “I’m concerned anytime someone reports to have special revelations from angels or a deceased person like the apostle Paul. That sort of information is not in the Bible,” he said. “We need to make sure there is adherence to Scripture in any spiritual movement.” The Rev. Stephen Strader, pastor of Ignited Church, who invited Bentley to Lakeland, is a minister in the Assemblies of God, and his church is part of the Peninsular Florida District of the Assemblies. He said he agreed with Wood and the statement from the Assemblies headquarters. “We have the exact same concerns. We watch over everything. Everything that happens on the platform is scriptural,” he said. Strader and Bentley say there has been very little talk about angels at the Florida Outpouring. “Emma has never been part of this outpouring. It was an experience Todd had seven years ago, and it’s been totally blown out of proportion,” Strader said. “The nightly message has been totally 100 percent nothing but Jesus. People looking for a problem or a heresy, they’re going to find it.”

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    Bentley said he doesn’t understand the controversy. “I’m not having weekly or daily experiences of angels. I believe they’re present at every service. I have felt them, but this revival hasn’t focused on angels at all,” he said. Strader acknowledged there have been some missteps and that the leaders have made “a small amount of adjustments.” They no longer say people have been healed, only that people are “claiming to be healed,” he said. In one case, there was a hoax. “Someone claimed to have a friend raised from the dead. We followed up, and it turned out he didn’t,” he said. “We’re correcting things like that.” The superintendent of the Peninsular Florida District, the Rev. Terry Raburn, said district leaders have taken no official position on the Florida Outpouring, but Raburn sounded a cautionary note similar to Wood’s. “In a spiritually charged atmosphere, there is the possibility of excesses – astral travel, out-of-body experiences, healings that can’t be verified,” he said. “Half the people calling our office want me to shut it down, which I would not be inclined to do even if I could. I have no authority over (Bentley). The other half feel I haven’t given it proper promotion and want to adopt it as an Assemblies of God project, which I can’t do,” Raburn said. Raburn said his schedule has prevented him from attending the revival, but another prominent local Pentecostal leader said he is not sure he will attend. The Rev. Wayne Blackburn, an Assemblies of God district official and pastor of Victory Church in Lakeland, said he has concerns about the emotional level of the services, which often reach fever pitch. “At these revivals, you’re going to have emotional manifestations that are just not scriptural,” he said.

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    Blackburn said there seems to be a difference between the Florida Outpouring and an extended revival at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola in the mid-1990s. “From what I understand, these services are different because at Brownsville, every night someone preached about the Lord Jesus Christ. It’s amazing that this one is called a healing revival. That’s the focus,” he said. “ 

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    The Todd revival.. ” Much of the “miracles” that I have seen over the weeks have been based more on what people believe that have happened, more than medically documented miracles. Many times over I have seen people with metal rods in their spine be “healed”. Todd will ask, what couldn’t you do, and usually has them bend over. This act of bending over is declared as a miracle. It is not. Most folks with metal rods in their back or neck CAN bend over, as these rods (Harrington rods) very seldom go the entire length of the spine. In fact, I have metal plates/screws in my neck and can bend my head from side to side and front to back. I remember one night when a woman with bulging discs in her neck came up to declare her healing. Todd felt along her spine and said “I don’t feel any bulging discs in your neck”, and then announced she had been healed. A disc bulge is something that you will NOT detected by running your hand up and down the spine. It is not something that can be physically palpated. Only imaging with MRI or CT would show the presence of disc bulges and if they were compressing nerve roots or affecting the spinal cord/spinal canal. I saw where this declaration of healing caused the room the go wild. My feeling is that if this is truly a bonafied healing…PRAISE GOD! But let’s confirm these miracles. That is what the world really needs to see! But alas, very few healings are actually being confirmed.

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    Secondly, my concern is the focus that has been placed on Angels, visitations, manifestations, etc. Although Jesus is mentioned throughout the night, though an altar call is given… far more emphasis is being placed on these other things than is acutally being given to the Jesus and him crucified (as Paul would say). The cross, the resurrection, holiness, repentance, dying to the flesh, etc., are merely glossed over and not really preached. What is being given more time, more emphasis are these other “experiences”.

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    The atmosphere here has changed from the very first meetings…at least it seems to me. And as I said earlier, I have been at revival since April 3rd…the 2nd night Todd was here in Lakeland. Something is wrong and I am concerned. Somehow the gospel that saves and keeps is not being preached as it should. Jesus…not even the Holy Spirit… is to be focus. In the Gospel of John, it says the when the comforter (Holy Spirit) would come, it would not speak of himself, but of Jesus. My concern is growing. I think we need to really pray and ask for discernment. I’m all for revival. I am all for miracles. But is there another Jesus, another gospel that is being preached here?”

    http://revivalfire-johnsblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/testimony-from-lakeland-florida-revival.html

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    well is there??

    (1 John 3:18 KJV)  My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

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    see  also

    https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/fundamental-evangelicals-and-supposedly-professing-christian-critics/

    https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/

    http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/are-you-a-real-christian-or-a-pretender-imposter-still/

     

    US Judge Throws Users To The Wolves

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    To be fair the judge should first go after the major pornography watchers on the net, for what now the  Hollywood movie piracy is more of an immoral act over watching pornography? or will the judges do that next and get a list of the  porno users too? and what next? Home and more privacy invasions too!! Unbelieveable
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    Google forced to reveal users’ YouTube viewing habits
    Times Online – 1 hour ago
    Google has been ordered to hand over details of YouTube users’ viewing habits by a judge presiding over a copyright infringement case against the site.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070300747.html

    June 25, 2008

    Employee shot and killed a supervisor..

    Filed under: Christianity,News and politics,Uncategorized — thenonconformer @ 5:16 pm
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    “An employee shot and killed a supervisor and four others after an argument at a western Kentucky plastics plant, then turned the gun on himself, police and a company official said Wednesday.”
     
    And if we delude ourselves to think that we Canadians are not so violent, gun crazy too, yes we too have had our share of revenge killings in Canada, even employers, killing some of some of the bad persons who likely asked for it no matter how tragic basically now their deaths are.  
     
    I do not believe in violence, for  me the pen still is really mightier than the sword, and a good reputation is worth more than silver and God.  
     
    I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well,  and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.
      
    I can relatedly say that too me the federal public and civil services, cops, RCMP inluded, related commissions  are all mostly or merely a farce,  pretentious  now still  for the most parts from my many past many dealings with them now too. Just do  Log a complaint about misleading advertising, sales and service abuses  by a corporation, or an abuse by your employer,  or about being falsely discriminated, or you being abused on an internet site, or someone  threatening to kill you for being a whistle blower or what ever, etc., and most of the time you will get back in reply rather lies, distortions, falsehoods and no valid actions..  But next that certainly does not stop me from pursing justice.
      
    Now for many years I have done my share of blogging and I encountered too many abusers, bullies, liars on the net in secular and religious sites, some detailed at http://postedat.wordpress.com/, and I rightfully did not put up with them quietly even if they were from Alberta, or anywhere else too.
      
    So if I do next want to rightfully get back against a really abusive, unrepentant person  even now  I merely deal with them in writing eventually telling even to all about his or her actual deeds, acts, reputation, image, and I do this very effectively too. Most persons,  Canadians tend not to support the crooks, the bad guys, the visible losers once publicly exposed still nor should they now too. Nor does the news media generally  next too.  I do thus first clearly write to him and to the others next about him, and I do not shoot him. That might haven been kindlier.  Rather I let the whole world know what he is really like, and what he did,  as I had witnessed it myself, and I cannot be sued  now for slander if I am telling the truth too,  and the lawsuit would even bring more bad publicity on the bad guys still too.
     
    I have seen many persons next in shock, depression, ill even once next fully exposed too.. Church pastors and their wives especially, as well as many Professionals now too.  They had many chances before to stop their wrong doings, to repent already too. But they had  liked to gamble that they can next still get away with it.. and sooner or later that approach backfires, it even makes matters worse. I have even the news media on my speed dial too. So should we all.
     
    Honest public exposure and prosecution of the major guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest..
     
     Prov 24:25 KJV)  But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.
     
    (Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
     
    (Eccl 7:5 KJV)  It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
     
    (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
     
    (Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

     

     

    June 14, 2008

    Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church Pentecostal Dispute

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    Hey I really do admit I do dislike any person who so readily can see the other persons sins, can list the other persons supposed wrongs, but cannot face, admit, list their own wrongs.. and I especially do rightfully think all pastors need to show a much better example here too.. The TACF pastors  included.

    Hey I really do admit I do dislike any person who so readily can see the other persons sins, can list the other persons supposed wrongs, but cannot face, admit, list their own wrongs.. and I especially do rightfully think all pastors need to show a much better example here too.. The TACF pastors  included.

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    For a very very long time this remains as a popular post for  sadly the infighting amongst various Christian churches seems to continue as each one tries to prove it is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/the-need-of-one-distancing-their-good-works-from-their-evil-ones/

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    While it is absolutely true that the love of Jesus for us, in that while we were yet sinners, he loved us and forgives, is  the biggest personal drawing force to God.. one of the saddest realization of mine next in real life is that half of the once loudly professing Christians will depart from real  faith next due to a variety of false reasons, such as the false pursuit of riches, being seduced, incomplete repentance, false denial of one sins.. etc., finally thus they are unwilling to pay the actual  price, to take up their cross and to follow  fully after God .  Divorce also clearly   is not a valid teaching, doctrine of  of the Christian church  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

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    1/7 of the tithe collected by the priests was to be disbursed to the local poor people, the new testament equivalent of the churches weekly distribution to the poor persons,  and how many of these church pastors who try to enforce tithing today keep even this obligations? Almost none and why was that? Greed..  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/

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    “USING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF AIRD & BERLIS AND HOWARD WINKLER OF TORONTO,   APOSTLE JOHN ARNOTT, SENIOR PASTOR STEVE LONG, AND THE BOARD OF THE EVANGELICAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP NOW RENAMED CATCH THE FIRE, (PLAINTIFS AND CREDITORS,)    SUED A TOTAL STRANGER FOR $ 50 MILLION DOLLARS AND BY COMMITTING  PERJURY, FABRICATION OF EVIDENCE AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE”

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    “Aird & Berlis did their Client Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship,  John Arnott and Steve Long a disservice by trying to bury  their “ financial and hate crimes” and by trying to destroy Mr. Walter Kambulow, the whistleblower, using the court system instead of telling their client to come clean!”   http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/aberrational-theology/fraud-embezzlement-illegal-tax-free-benefits-by-the-executives-of-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-john-arnott-and-steve-long-2

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    using the same courts, media  to abuse one another  IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TACF PASTORS FIRSTLY.

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    Then a man of God came to Eli and said to him, “Thus says the LORD: ‘Did I not clearly reveal Myself to the house of your father when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh’s house?  ‘Did I not choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be My priest, to offer upon My altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod before Me? And did I not give to the house of your father all the offerings of the children of Israel made by fire? ‘Why do you kick at My sacrifice and My offering which I have commanded in My dwelling place, and honor your sons more than Me, to make yourselves fat with the best of all the offerings of Israel My people?’  “Therefore the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I said indeed that your house and the house of your father would walk before Me forever.’ But now the LORD says: ‘Far be it from Me; for those who honor Me I will honor, and those who despise Me shall be lightly esteemed. 1 Samuel 2:27-30

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    “It seems to me part of the problem is that the Assembly of God denomination allows ministers to preside over board meetings instead of   church members, as in other more democratically operated Protestant churches.

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    We all like the pleasant things of God and life, and shy away from unpleasant and controversial things, such as the present day sins of the pastors and evangelists in this great land. We say things such as ‘touch not God’s anointed’ and some of us worship them as kings. The Prophet Isaiah reminded us:

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    “Be a shelter to them from the face of the spoiler. For the extortioner is at an end, devastation ceases, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.” (Isaiah 16:4)

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    Sometimes, others see and know more about the truth of the Kings of Israel and others in that they were largely spoilers, thieves, liars and oppressors. Not all Kings in Israel in bible times were good and kind; most of them were terribly wicked and despots.

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    As a denomination, the Assembly of God has not accepted responsibility for the actions of their prominent members in their organization. It has done nothing to bring justice and healing to the real victims in these cases. Instead, they it has chosen to console and comfort the aggressors, the noble ones, and the perpetrators of the crimes. The victims were mostly elderly people, who didn’t have the physical strength or financial resources to fight back and recover what they lost. ” http://walthope.tripod.com/

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    It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  SUCH AS TACF AS WELL too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/

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    FOR WE TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.

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    As I look back in my life the last half a century some of the most immoral, despotic, cruel persons I have encountered in Canada were not just in the business world but actually pastors in various Christian  churches, family ,relatives  and why was, is that?

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    I have absolutely no doubt that many Canadian evangelical pastors included now are falsely lying, unacceptably misrepresenting the Biblical truth,  pressurizing, twisting the arms of members and adherents  to regularly tithe to their storehouse, to the Pastor’s benefit, so the pastor can live high on the hog now.

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    (Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

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    There are still much too many persons with a big bad mouth even  in my own related families, who got so used to wagging  their big bad  tongues, telling their lies about others, that next  they had falsely started to think they all can and will get away with it for ever.. and they are next shocked when they are rightfully not only rebuked, but  fully exposed to all as to who they are really .. as slanderers, liars and human rights abusers..

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    Clearly now I too got really tired of being lied to and abused by much too many professional bullies, perverts that I encounter too often in life now still, even in society, churches too  so I next started to openly, personally expose them and to make them reap real personal negative consequences rightfully here too..

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    Here is another simple fact of undeniable truth of life..  All of us seem to spend a lot of time trying to find our personal happiness in life, and many seem to fail at it, so we then tend to try to blame our failure here next on being the fault of others..  The problem firstly now here often starts with one’s false definition of happiness.

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    Happiness generally, firstly is doing a job well that you like to do and so  many people are unhappy cause they are also unrealistic, and lazy.  Most persons also next do not become deliberately despots or perverts in life from birth, it is a decision they generally do on their own make later in life.. Our self-worth, self esteem is a direct result of the good things you do , have done.. do the bad things and you will have a low self worth, poor self acceptance, and it is a waste of time thus to blame it mostly on the others.

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    (1 Thess 2:2 KJV)  But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3  For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4  But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5  For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness; God is witness: 6  Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7  But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children:

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    Too often now the preacher still wrongfully tells the flock  he’s their sole, responsible spiritual daddy and thus he always does knows what’s best for them, so now  also they would  better not take their full freedom in Christ too seriously and next try to do anything without consulting, obeying the preacher in all things too..

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    It is still not the preacher who is the head of the Church, Jesus Christ alone is, and it is still the Holy Spirit himself  who will lead and guide you into all truth.. for the preacher job rather firstly is to lead us to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.

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    When expounding the truth, the Bible the bad preacher often wears colored glasses it seems that say “What’s in it for me”, says the preacher too?So long as the preacher wears a nice suit, no matter how or how much he paid for his suit he is a good preacher it seems   Many Preachers do seem count  on your ignorance of the Word of God  as they often do also try  convince you you’re way too dumb to argue with them, for  God has spoken to them directly on the matter, and if you challenge them they tend to ignore you or kick you out..

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    (1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

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    (Eph 4:15 KJV)  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

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    (Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

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    (John 14:16 KJV)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

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    (John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

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    (John 15:26 KJV)  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

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    The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.

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    Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, Pastors, Ministers, politicians, cops  too. Sadly some people they tend  present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness  for they tend to falsely  have a hidden agenda, and often they want to be falsely personally worshipped and live in sin too.

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    Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?

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    Yes, the Bad pastors, bad elders, bad cops, bad politicians  continue to exist  cause likely their supporters are  also now bad too.

     

    (Jer 5:31 KJV)  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

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    My own twin brother Walter Kambulow , now has passed away and who seemed to have a chip on his shoulder against all of the  bad pastors  because his non Christian wife Sandy did  NOT submit to him, had written to me   some interesting comments about the need to deal with hireling type preachers and it should include their restitutions as well.. Would be nice if everyone practiced it now too.

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    Wrongful inactions, Cover ups, False denial of bad politicians, bad cops, bad persons, false pastors, false priests are much too common but nevertheless they do get exposed, revealed to all as to what they are often now like  too, and get what they deserve, and not the first or last time.

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    “Unfortunately most religious leaders today seem to be hirelings and not true shepherds! All they care about is their own ministry and self interests and not the best interest of the sheep!

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    The bottom line is that if you forgive some people without dealing with the issues at hand, the judgment that will fall on them from God will also fall on you! Numbers 16 tells us what happens when you join forces with the wrong people to do evil and wicked things!

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    Christians can be exploited as well

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    Most evangelicals teach mandatory  forgiveness! And in a sense we forgive the person that did the act but we don’t forgive the act and according to Matthew 5:21-26, Luke 18:1-8, Hebrews 10:26-26, and Revelation 2:18-23 we anticipate God to avenge us if there is no restitution or repentance.

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    Evangelicals love to talk about THE NEED OF OTHERS FOR forgiveness but not much TO THEIR OWN ACTS SUCH AS TACF  OR about bona fide repentance and restitution! ( Why?)

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    John 19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 19:6 So he made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 19:7 But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner.” 19:8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.” 19:9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham; Zacchaeus demonstrated his faith not only by his repentance but by restitution! ”

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    FOR WE ALL TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.

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    And once exposed most people do not accept, support  a crook, even if it is a Minister now too.

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    Most people still rightfully do blame the governments, politicians, bad cops and bad judges, for the existence of much too many crooked civil and public servants, crooked business persons, crooked persons in Canada.  More Laws that are unenforced also tend to be still mostly useless too. Let’s simply just agree the whole system is often corrupt, eh?

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    We need better Policing and “Tougher penalties for sure!” You will get a longer jail sentence for robbing a convenience store of $50 than fleecing consumers,  investors for millions (billions) or stealing any of the tax payer’s money.    Put all of the criminals in jail, and their bad supervisors now too,  where they belong, and always do  take way from them all that they have stolen now as well..  Restitution of all items stolen should be in the criminal sentencing now as well..  Until people start getting fired and criminal charges are laid, the bad acts of theirs will continue. And do amend the criminal code to include a mandatory 5 year minimum jail sentence and a fine not less than 10 times the money involved, for breach of public trust. This amendment would cover all forms of corruption from conflict of interest to false accounting. By the time the first dozen or so of these crooks have been banged up – the rest won’t find a bad public office so attractive once they know they can’t abuse,  fleece the citizens, consumers, taxpayer.

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    LK 17:3 “Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty still serves as a rightful deterrent example to all and is still one of the best approaches on how to deal with the evil persons. Even the Bible records openly the unrepentant sins of many persons and their real  negative consequences. Too many of the preachers are unacceptably also guilty of preaching “Do what I say and not what I do still too”.

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    Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind, and  yes church pastors included now, for  there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for the Church pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. reaping for their lies, misdirection.. and it is also still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back, and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly now  is an unacceptable  common occurrence yes  in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and sadly this is now how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse also starts to talk to any others now about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..

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    There are yes too many  false sheep who worship those crooked leaders, shepherds, pastors dressed in nice suits. Not trying to impress anyone, or showing off I next went to a new church dressed in my clean, regular daily clothes. I next too was surprised when now one said hello to me nor did they great me, and a few services later this continued to happen. So I prayed about it and to my surprise God said they were harlots, prostitutes. Embarrassed at this revelation I decided I would fully proof for myself this was true. So next Sunday I put on a white shirt, tie, nice black pants, and a white sports jacket and most everyone said hello  to me. Incidentally the same thing happens to me on the bus as well.. Why?  Also the very same pastor of this professing Christian church dressed there in a nice suit who also did not talk to me as well was next charged with abuse, slander, lying, misappropriation of church funds, and was eventually fired. Now these days when I see these peacock members, deacons, ushers  strutting around church in their fancy suits trying to impress the others , it causes me to be sick to my stomach still. It would be better if they used the money rather to help the poor and needy in their own church..

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    POWER, CONTROL BUT ALSO NOW MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS TACF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO.. they seem to collect money under false pretenses too often  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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    Why do some of the too often dirty Canadian pastors think they still can get away with it? TACF AS WELL but  not for long!

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    Telling lies, half truths is too  too difficult, for you have to remember the lies you had said, and the truth as well, and most people cannot do that , thus they rather do as a result go crazy.. So Me I do not write to please men or women, to be politically correct, and I prefer the to deal with, write the simple truths, I also do readily share the good things I have learned freely

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    The spin game  “Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. “A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective positive comments so far.. real negative comments were, are excluded. I too do have to admit that “bless the Outpouring” of God sounds too pharisaical”.  Rather they should really say “we pray that the leaders also themselves set a good example by their personal repentance, godly behaviors”.

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    Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor now IN THE PAST HAD OFTEN  on his own had told me now what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, so  I guess he was buttering me up for a donation.. now a bit later, just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the real close relatives told me first hand now a whole different story from what the local pastor had told me. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, he had been even separated from his wife as well, and he had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. That was all news to me, a past  hidden family secret. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well.. Now Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor  or family members now too.  But in Canada TODAY IT SEEMS  70 percent of the preachers now are bad, rally not called by God.  Never mind the rest of the flock.  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/to-the-bad-preacher/

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    Many many pastors do wrongfully still  do think that the citizens complaints about them it is all a big joke, they do laugh at it, mock them too. Write a letter to a pastor and see if they even do  even acknowledge it. AND WHEN THEY DO IT IS FULL OF LIES.

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    Pastors do too often falsely think they are above the laws of the country  and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. How hypocritical OF THEM. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the Christian, evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and really work for God rather then self. They all seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and yes  too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last perverts, crook. The bad Christian pastors seem to be trying to get falsely their rewards on earth  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also seem to preach. Who are they fooling but themselves as to what they really are.

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    Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away Pentecostals  from the US Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly, the CMA is also the church of Stephen Harper Canada’s prime Minister  and they both do have a very similar church bad management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the CHURCH expenditures next to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..  with transparency and accountability.. sounds like PM Harper too.

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    see also https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomin

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    There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many past personal encounters experiences Canada wide too that I had , but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby, Jesus,  with the dirty wash water. Rather next I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead.. 1/12 only and did the rest…

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    “Your honor, there are more things than money—truth, honesty and justice. He [Strader] hasn’t been honest, and he is seeking to avoid justice with money.” (Assistant state Attorney Wayne Durden, Polk County, Florida at the sentencing of Dan Strader, 1995)  The problem with lying and thieving preachers in America is that they all preach to others but never listen to others. They are after all better than their sheep?  Someone should tell preachers such as Karl Strader, Benny Hinn and Randy White, who said I was demon possessed and needed to get a life because I don’t do what they did, that robbing and raping the money and well being of the sheep under their care is not just a “white collar crime.” They should read their own bible that they talk so much about and see what God said to Eli and his raping and thieving sons:”

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    Now as to ”Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?  Posted by Job on May 29, 2008  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell  and are taking at least one person to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his online books which are too hot for them to handle!

     

    They are also upset because this person has asked  “So for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. See http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=1524 5 and http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm

     

    They are also upset because this former member has asked the government authorities to investigate why it is okay for TACF Vice President Steve Long to publically solicit by mail for tax free funds to pay off TACF President John Arnott mortgage but  not publically solicit by mail to pay for this former member mortgage as well as all his legal costs as a result of TACF nonprofit charity suing this former member because he blew the whistle on their crimes, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, perjury, sins, etc..

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    It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada,  liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!

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    But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit  as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of  January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,”  a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.

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    And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of  Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian.  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!”

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    Read ( most of these sites have been deleted) Liars and Perjurers in Revival  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf Todd Bentley http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf The False Prophets” Oral and Richard Roberts “http://cnt10c.tripod.com/ or.htm “The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm “The Charlatan” Karl Strader  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm The Losers Randy and Paul White http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm Down in Flames  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rc.htm The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm “The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm  “The Bishop” http://cnt10d.tripod.com/blong.htm Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm  “The Thieving CEO” Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm The Pentecostal God Fraud http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/pentecostal/godfraud.shtml Why is Pentecostalism a danger for Christianity? http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Protestantism-3427/Pentecostal-danger-Christianity.htm TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm .

    But thenonconformer Says in reply  Hey this is a all a big Joke.. even about the  false Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions Christianity – Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters, Slander, and Walter Kambulow etc.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/

    http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/are-you-not-falsely-angry.html

    “Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr. Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ”   and  his wife Sandy  is no saint too..  The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”

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    AT TIMES the Internet blogosphere lives up to its billing as the new frontier of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, religious and political discourse. But too often the blogs mainly still turn into an open sewer of rumors, lies, libels and adolescent  sins. Well can tell the truth at least.. so we also  all can see the other side. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/ .

    Walter Kambulow  knows firsthand how crooked religious corporations were, including the FGBMFI, which did not disclose to it’s donators how all of the money was next being used too. A portion sent to the us   headquarters AND FOR WHAT?. Most churches do not detail THEIR expenditures it seems these days, no full accountability and OR FULL transparency, EVEN like the professing Christian Stephen Harper and his government now as well.

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    WALTER HAD WANTED ENFORCED PASTORAL ACCOUNTABILITY..  .

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    Walter wants the clearly bad pastors fired, punished for their lies, slander

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    Those who sin rebuke before all and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke as well.

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    To get back at the local, Florida evangelical pastors    for their falsely counseling his wife Sandy behind his back and without his knowledge, permission, Walter Kambulow, of Burlington Ontario, now in the last decade  had started a major holy religious war against the BAD  evangelical preachers in Canada, and the US, in writing on the net, and he finally  next got  sued for 50 million dollars in the Ontario Queen’s courts by some one claiming to be from the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church..  which was not really the truth.. no one NOW there had wanted to admit who really had authorized the suit or who was behind it , so the church lawsuit next got no where..

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    Mind you these too often bad Pentecostal pastors even  Catholic priests,  or the Baptist pastors have really not been any better.

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    and what about the bad Pentecostal pastors, they too do not repent.There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians or anyone for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net. So I do not.

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    It is a clear fact  that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc.,  wrongfully seem to love to bash,  hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, and the Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that, to fill that empty, God shaped vacuum  that they do feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians  do so as well.. they are certainly all not being led by person of the Holy Spirit to do any of this.. but yes clearly by self and the devil too.,, and you can tell all that now by their own lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians.. simple too.

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    Yes, the  person being taken to court for his writings, expressing his feelings, right of free speech,  was, is firstly my own twin Brother Walter..

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    It appears that a pastor in Canada about 2 years ago had talked to Walter’s wife Sandy behind his back, without Walter’s rightful approval and knowledge, and ever since Walter was really rightfully  upset over this, and he next escalated the  wars against the bad pastors, in Canada and in the US.

     

    And it is not all just about money, Church, pastoral thefts, misappropriation of funds is it? It is the perverse pastoral managerial styles of the churches, and their false disclosures, lack of accountability too, but much more, it is their interference into one’s home, personal marriages to enlarge the religious empires at any costs it seems.

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    Walter was the person who had introduced me to Pentecostalism and even to the great Katherine Khulman, Benny Hynn too, and Walter went to many of Benny Hinn’s services too, and he had asked me to go THERE too

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    Here also is what I know in Canada for sure ; most Catholic and evangelical Pastors tend to think they are very special, unaccountable to anyone but God and FALSELY ARE very arrogant too. Most pastors do not even bother to acknowledge  even as of this week letters, email sent to them as well AND I  find that very surprising when the News media personnel, editors and  reporters, Ministers, MPs do often write back to me.. but not the  supposedly Christian  Evangelical, Pentecostal pastors, and I rarely get a letter from them  unless it is clearly a condemnation of something bad that I  had posted about them on the net, such as them being drunks, alcoholics. but I got a few of those too.

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    I admit I have also  been really surprised for decades in Canada as to how crooked also now too many non profitable, religious, charitable organizations now are well, the Salvation Army as well as the other professionals themselves such as lawyers, accountants, realtors, pastors and I have said that now many times too and why.

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    In reality too many people unsupervised, left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully often even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family or Church are still a reality too.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/reality.html

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    I had also attended a Latter Rain Movement Church for while too, loved it, and it’s theology was great too.. But I know from many years of Canadian experiences that 70 percent of Christian pastors are bad, hypocrites, pretenders.. in all denominations..

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    and I think that people who are so called experts on something they have never experienced are still just big liars, hypocrites, bullies, false teachers, false prophets..

    . Now I have no problem with any church collecting the tithe as long as they give an  honest, detailed account of where the money was  being spent which in fact too often is not done these days, especially in the Christian Missionary Alliance Churches, or the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada where the churches are not local, congregationally run or owned, rather they are an incorporated Corporation, corruption existing mainly it seems to provide security and jobs for their pastors.. etc., Sadly the donations, the incomes, the Monies – filthy lucre, for some reasons too often do not reach designated targets and are secretly diverted elsewhere as well and undeniably too.  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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    Furthermore for  a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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    Also  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles, or any of their books, … so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even by Church pastors, elders, deacons….

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    You would be surprised how many Protestant, Catholics, evangelicals, and cults like Mormons practice tax evasion now too.. much too many for a start too.

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    I have often said, asked that they should in fairness not discriminate and investigate not just all of the civil, public servants, politicians, in reality but also all of the pastors, evangelists, preachers and annual now fairly in all of the denominations not just a few Pentecostal ones  even for alcoholism, drug usage,  possible tax evasions, abuse of donated funds, lies, slander.. but it never will happen sadly.. too many politicians who are likely just as bad will likely suppress it all firstly too.  Bad Ministers in the church or bad ministers in the government are both unacceptable and both should be fired too.

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    Hospitality tab at Passport Canada costs taxpayers $16,800: document   OTTAWA – Senior cabinet minister Peter MacKay approved a $16,800 hospitality bill for a group of civil servants in an apparent bending of government rules, a newly disclosed document shows

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    Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the  elected representatives too.

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    It seems these days that even the citizens, TV evangelists, Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised? and rapidly go downhill.  http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html , http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/

     

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    “Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr. WALTER Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ” http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf  and Sandy Kambulow herself is no  godly person as well as I also do know firsthand too.. and  none of these AIRPORT people here are really saints now as well..

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    “The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf

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    Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.

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    Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me..Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

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    I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, and in Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?

    . Why?? most people are bad sheep who follow the leaders, or Ostriches when it comes to negative truths..

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    “It’s also to be noted that that Superior Court of Ontario heading of the Justice Campbell’s ruling concerning TACF et Al v. Kambulow stated it was a “commercial court” establishing the fact that Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a commerce suing Walter Kambulow as a commerce and it is not a church of Jesus Christ!”

     

    When I go public I often get threats of a lawsuit, and not just the politicians sending the police to my door, but I do not back off, and I always seem to tell them to go ahead.. the lawsuit will give the matter more publicity too.. and they back off. Snakes seem to  hate the light and exposure.

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    Can anyone sue for defamation of character/libel/slander for PERSONAL statements made even on the Internet? But if it’s true there is no CASE for defamation or slander. And if it is NOT true they still will have to show specific, related proof of actual damages, not just some supposed potential damages. Furthermore the law still requires that they do reply to all allegations in the manner they had firstly have received them immediately too, within a reasonable period of time, and if they have not bothered to deny, reply to, to object any of the charges of wrong doings, allegations initially, after a reasonable period of time, a maximum of 6 months they not longer can do so, for now it is accepted they are true. Do ALL stop being sue crazy or nicky picky too.

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    “Thank you for your comment. I will agree with you that it is important to live our lives as God desires for us too. One important point is simply that without reading God’s Word on a regular basis we cannot know exactly how to live.I do have on question for you: Where did you get the stat “70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian”? Just curious about that.”

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    I would not be so quick to deny what I have written now too. As you can read on my many many sites, I have already detailed this there and often too, that I have fellowshipped with many churches, Canada wide too, with many evangelical pastors directly for many many years in Canada, and I too first was surprised as to how many of them openly admitted to even me the names of specific pastors that had committed adultery, even the Baptist and Pentecostals ones. My first senior Christian Missionary alliance pastor John Fitzstevens, had initially had told me 4 decades ago even that that 70 percent of the Canadian, American pastors were ungodly. And I had immediately asked him what he was doing about it personally. I had provided spiritual counseling to his family too.

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    Next a major US news media had interviewed many evangelical pastors and they had reported that 70 percent of evangelical pastors had had admitted they had committed adultery, and I myself know personally much many evangelical pastors that have committed adultery. I have even directly witnessed them stealing ,money, lying gossiping, slandering too.

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    I have rarely met any Godly pastors in the last 50 years, I can count those on one hand too.

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    A Church secretary of a Baptist major denominations in two large Canadian provinces for 3 decades told me firsthand that most of her pastors commit tax evasions, and so does she as well. I myself had witnessed a brethren head church elder reading pornography at an airport, I had witnessed another pastor committing adultery too. I had a witness, backed up with a police report that an evangelical pastor had punched me, physically assaulted me, with no provocation too, and the same thing had happened to my own brother on another occasion and he too had called the police and reported the matter.

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    Just recently a pastor lied, on his site he had rewritten what I had said to make the pastors look good and he made it falsely seem as I had written it.  Who did he lie to, Himself that he is even a godly pastor.

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    But none of this should be a surprise because my first initial shock about 3 decades ago was the unacceptable fact that the undeniable majority of evangelical pastors do, had counseled divorce, and I wanted to know why? and I next had solely rightfully concluded they were basically sex maniacs, and that is why they kept also their divorce options open.

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    I have posted these facts for the last decade too to all of Canada’s 1000 major politicians, and major news editors, on the net too.

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    I have had a deputy Minister, the second in command of the province of Alberta tell me face to face how crooked the evangelical pastors in Alberta were, a fact known by many of his colleagues too.

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    None of the politicians, persons, major news media have ever contradicted back to me on any of this, but you are the first pastor, person to do this too in decades, and I wonder why?

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    Now since you do really know your Bible you know that the Bible already says says that adultery is God’s punishment to those at whom he is upset at.. and I can think of many bad things that pastors do that upset God… this adultery is all so common and where have you been?

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    I was next shocked as to how many of them are alcoholics now too.

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    I have helped to remove many, many bad evangelical church pastors, founding pastors too, for their unrepentant immoralities as well in Canada in the last many years too.

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    When I do deal with a still unrepentant pastor I also do get a clear vision of their additional major sins, and you should see next their pale faces, holy terror, their shakes and trembling, even that of their spouses when I personally do start to reveal what I do know about them, their unrepentant immoral acts, and they the pastor really do they know that they are reaping what they have sowed.. still most of them, 90 percent do not repent, rather they tend to leave town instead. I do also tell them you will have wished you had listened to me and repented , for next it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God as well.. I can never overcome the fact that most of them think that they cannot be rebuked, corrected, and falsely think that God had overlooked their unacceptable sins because time has passed as well and he did not.

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    I have helped to remove the federal tax exempt charter of a really bad evangelical church now as well and it closed as a result too.

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    I was sitting in a significant church where the pastor was putting on a show.. so I prayed and asked God as to what he had thought of this pastor, and he had replied that he has the same ability to sin that your brother has. My brother has written two books now that are posted on the net about bad pastors and their sins.

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    and you would be shocked as to how many Pastors do not pray one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day.. for they all of persons should be the first ones to do this too.

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    The Bible, New Testament, Jesus the apostles gives us clear warnings as to the characteristics of the type of persons who  even go out of their way to betray Jesus Christ, including even Judas one of the 12 apostles, the religious Jews, legalists and  Hypocrites, the Scribes and Pharisees such  as Saul , as well as materialistic oriented persons,  and sadly even the professing Christians like Apostle Peter. The betrayal of Jesus was wrongfully also next inflicted upon His Followers  including more  lies, slander, human rights violations, and it will go on today, unless someone opposes it, rightfully stands up against it.

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    From: Bentley_Chris-MPP-CO

    Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:01 AM

    To: Paul Kambulow Cc: attorneygeneral@ontario.ca Subject:

    RE: about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently..

    Good morning: Thank you for taking the time to contact Chris Bentley’s Constituency Office. I will bring your email to Mr. Bentley’s attention. Since your concerns are a matter for the Attorney General.  I have taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the Ministry of the Attorney General to be responded to.  If you would like to follow up with Mr. Bentley’s Toronto office directly please do not hesitate to contact (416) 326-2220 or 1-800-518-7901 attorneygeneral@ontario.ca. Thank you again,

    Ashley Conyngham Constituency Assistant Chris Bentley, MPP London West 8-11 Base Line Road East London, Ontario N6C 5Z8 Tel: (519) 657-3120 Fax: (519) 657-0368 Mobile: (519) 281-2153

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    Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can be truly honest, tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too?

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    At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders. “Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

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    When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeatedly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Characterizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord. (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! ”

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    BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS.

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    All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

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    For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

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    I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

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    As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinking? The husband .

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    Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

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    It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

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    Numbers 12

    12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

    ( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

    2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

    7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

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    And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

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    Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

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    Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

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    Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

    15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

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    is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

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    was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

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    What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

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    I Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

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    Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

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    (Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

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    (Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

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    and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to..

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    I was visiting in Montreal when God spoke to me and said a NW  Calgary Evangelical ALLIANCE Church Pastor was bad mouthing me. I admit I got upset and said Lord why right did he have to do that? God replied that the did not share this truth to upset me but rather for me to give God permission to deal with it. Within a few days of my return to Calgary I read next in the local newspaper that one of the Sunday school teacher under the same pastor had been arrested for sexual molestation of the boys in his Sunday School class. The same Pastor now was too busy worried about his own reputation,  to be bad mouthing me now too.

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    LET ME TELL YOU FIRSTLY THAT STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP YOU CAN HAVE DAILY IS NOT AT ALL WITH YOUR LOCAL CHURCH, DENOMINATION BUT RATHER WITH GOD, JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, REPENTANCE….. AND HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW?

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    Heavenly Father I pray that you will help all, all of the persons involved to look up to you, to trust in you alone firstly to supply all of their needs, to help them and not in any person wrongfully as well. Supply the poor people what they need through the persons  of your choice, not ours and through your means not ours..

     

    (James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

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    PSALM 13: 5  But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.  6  I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.

     

     

    (Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.

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    (1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV)    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6  Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. 14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. .

    (Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

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    (Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

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    (1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

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    (2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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    (Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

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    (Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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    (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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    The also bad pastors of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers John Arnott and Steve Long – have never denied my written charges of their own wrong doings now too.. and they cannot.

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    In reality neither side is in the right in this ungodly, unholy war..

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    “They are also upset because this former member has asked” .. this is not true Walter was never a member of this TACF group, he may have attended one or 2 of their services, .. For Walter he is a loner.. the last many years.. the last Church he Walter was a member of was Montreal LaSalle trinity Pentecostal church, and the Full Gospel business men’s fellowship where he had resigned from..

    . Walter had asked “ for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. ”

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    and there is nothing wrong now in this request.. I also have rightfully have asked that all churches in the US and in Canada be annually investigated for fraud now too.. even the PAOC, the CMA, Evangelicals etc.. in this regard..” http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/the-ttihe/  http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/why-is-toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-angry/#comment-29644

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    TACF this year  lost  it’s suit against Walter Kambulow, also has changed it’s name to Catch the fire Ministries, and has suffered a severe severe drop in followers.

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    Walter Kambulow  SADLY next has made it now his personal mission to attack, discredit all major Pentecostal , evangelical pastors, leaders

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    Still today Quebec’s official welcome to non-Catholic immigrants  in addition to the huge crucifix atop Mount Royal in Montreal are wall mounted crucifix and their public prayers. Quebec’s Catholics special religious rights  goes back to the Quebec Act of 1774, and is central to the asymmetrical features of Confederation in the British North America Act of 1867. This The Quebec Act explicitly guaranteed the freedom to practice the Catholic faith. It also restored French civil law alongside the British common law even till today. Furthermore, the Quebec Act allowed Catholics to hold public office, and removed a reference to the Protestant denomination in the office holders’ oath of allegiance to the king of England. It also allowed the Catholic church to collect the religious tax known as the tithe…

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    and look I  am not aksing for any support, money, donations,  membership..  and Jesus himself, the way, the truth and the life,  is the only person I do  want you to follow.

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    It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.

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    ALSO see my other posts now

    https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/ontario-judge-orders-website-to-reveal-identity/

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/distortions-lies-false-critiques/
    http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/intro/
    http://theredreader.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/i-can-say/
    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/am-i-therefore-become-your-enemy/
    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots
    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/
    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-collection-of-christian-literature/
    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/rev-george-muller/

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    Do visit all of my sites at wordpress.com now too

    For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from finding out reading about the Holy spirit, Charismatics, Pentecostals and the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last  40 years. So my sites will reflect, show you what I have learned, found out on these subjects for a start.

     
    One of my Top Posts  ..
    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
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     http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/revenge-on-my-abusers/
    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/those-crazy-charismatics-or-pentecostals

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/real-actions-speak-louder-than-mere-words/
    http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/slow-to-learn/
    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/ 

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    Many people write half truths, these half truths still do not make liars into honest men..
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    So far nothing has caused me to change my views on the subject.
    .. God bless you.

    May 13, 2008

    CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE

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    Hey I learned long time ago that merely telling the truth to some Ostrich persons will not work, they have their false idols, false lies they still want to handle, and they will take the Ostrich approach to the truth, but hopefully the truth will next still help some people. The Christian Missionary & Alliance  is a demonic group. See-
       

    EVEN IF A Christian GROUP such as the CM&A, Christian Missionary & Alliance HOLDS TO SOME VALID TRUTHS SUCH AS – Jesus Christ is the sole Savior, Lord of your life. – The concept of the restoration of the Tabernacle of David. Praise & Worship emphasized as a means to usher (1) in God’s presence and (2) to usher God’s people into His presence. Singing in the spirit congregationally, I.e. in other tongues. The “song of the Lord” a prophetic song or one in other tongues but interpreted – The belief that God has now restored all the ministry gifts back to the Church, especially the office of the prophet and apostle {this is where today’s prophetic/apostolic move comes from}. – The practice of laying on of hands to be filled with the Holy Spirit (and the evidence of speaking in other tongues). – The practice of laying on of hands to impart spiritual gifts – The belief Christians can be demonized and need to be delivered through the laying on of hands. – Divine healing is obtained by faith and also is imparted via the laying on of hands – Emphasis on spiritual warfare – Emphasis on personal and directive prophecy – Anointed Women have a full and equal ministry role in the Church, I.e. women pastors, prophetesses, elders, etc.. – The  second coming of Christ is inevitable, soon – Emphasis on Missions, evangelism, the Bible, a Pastor..

     The same group can still be false, led by false men and not by the Holy Spirit. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/tax-exempt-donations-stranglehold/ https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/

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    The CMA is a pretentious and one of the most demonic churches I have been too made up of lying hypocrites where the professing Christians not only abuse people, poor people included, but they indulge in Alcohol too often too.. “I know that as a minister in the C&MA I am called to abstain from drinking alcoholic beverages, here at Safe Harbor there are just a few of people who voluntary give up drinking. The majority of our church drinks: beer, wine, and of course margaritas. I do not have a problem with this. Some pastors would. I can sum up my position by quoting Derek Webb, “While I do not condone drunkenness, I do condone drinking”
    http://lukecamara.blogspot.com/2007/05/jesus-and-wine.html

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    Many persons were, are  not aware that the Alliance church is classified as a Pentecostal church, for they do also have some similar doctrines too, healing, laying on off hands -impartation, although they the Alliance do not encourage today the gift of speaking in tounges.. but they do not forbid it. They basically also seem to lack practicing love for others as well in reality. But (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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     For  many years I have had nothing bad bad experience with 4 of the Canadian Christian Missionary Alliance churches, and they had lied to me, abused me.. undeniable facts I have detailed to all the Canadian members of Parliament, and to the major Canadian News editors, and posted it on the net.. this was a church composed mostly of liars, thieves, imposters and pretenders in my witness… it is not  a real Christian Church for sure.  It is merely a pretend church mostly, a rich man’s social club,  in my real experiences, witness.

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     Do  see https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/

    Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well.. The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.

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    MONEY WAS THE SECOND REASON THIS CHRISTIAN  FIGHT ESCALATED.. MONEY, HOW IT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND SPENT BECAME AN ISSUE TOO

    http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/secret-tithing/

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    “Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr. Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ”   and  his wife Sandy  is no saint too..  The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”     https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/toronto-airport-christian-fellowship-church-pentecostal-dispute/

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    Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, how the donations are handle is a critical issue and most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/parrots/

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    I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?

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      Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away from the Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly and they have a very similar church management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the expenditures to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..   

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    It is also a known fact that the fundamental dispensationalist, Baptist, Brethren. etc.,  wrongfully seem to love to bash,  hate, provoke fights, bully the Charismatic, Pentecostals, Catholics.. under the false disguise of love and truth too, and I used to be naive and think that only ungodly secular persons behave like that to fill that God shaped vacuum  they they feel in their heart, lives, but it now turns out these other bad professing fundamental Christians  do so as well.. they are certainly not being led by person of the Holy Sprit to do this.. but by the devil too.,, and you can tell that by their lack of real love towards the other Born again Christians..

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    Yes the same Christian Missionary alliance church, rather Corporation.. the bad so called church that our Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper goes too. The Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA) is an Evangelical Protestant denomination within Christianity. Founded by Rev. Albert Benjamin Simpson in 1887, the Christian & Missionary Alliance did not start off as a denomination, but rather began as two distinct Para church organizations: The Christian Alliance which focused on the pursuit and promotion of the Higher Christian life and The Evangelical Missionary Alliance, which focused on mobilizing “consecrated” Christians in the work of foreign missionary efforts. These two groups amalgamated in 1897 to form The Christian and Missionary Alliance. It was only much later during the mid twentieth century that an official denomination was formed. See my posts on the CMA.. It is owned and controlled by a Corporation. The Pentecostal Assembly of Canada, PAOC broke away from this corporation and formed it’s own corporation, so called church..

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    There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors Canada wide where in my many personal encounters, experiences  that I had  in the last 4 decades too but I did rightfully did not throw out the baby with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead..

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    CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE NAMED IN CONSPIRACY LAWSUIT FILED: CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD CHINESE CHURCH OF $650,000 CHURCH PROPERTY  AND APPROXIMATELY $18,000 IN BANK ACCOUNTS by James SundquistIn a major lawsuit, the Mid America District of the Christian &  Missionary Alliance (hereafter C&MA) was named by a group of former members of the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs. The C&MA is one of the largest Evangelical Protestant Christian denominations, with 2,010 C&MA churches in the U.S., and 440 in Canada, with approximately 417,000 members in the United States. The Plaintiff has alleged that the C&MA conspired to defraud and subsequently confiscate and convert their $650,000 church property and assets and emptied their approximately $18,000 in bank accounts, located in Colorado Springs, Colorado, U.S.A. The Defendant, C&MA Mid America District Headquarters office, is located in Omaha, Nebraska. C&MA National Church Ministries Vice President Rev. John Soper endorsed and approved both the closure and the sale of the church property in two letters.This is not unique. The Chinese church is just one of the more recent victims of the C&MA’s Church Growth Movement Church Multiplication, Church Health formulas for measuring spirituality, and Small Group grand strategies being implemented in the U.S., and Canada to takeover and transform churches. After the C&MA had given the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs an ultimatum of 15 months to redevelop, the lawsuit alleges that they reneged on it in 3 months. After closing the church down, the C&MA wouldn’t even let them keep their Chinese translation Bibles and library (refusing to return them even upon request in writing). After about 18 months the C&MA put the property on the market and sold the property to a Karate company. Named in the lawsuit are: Christian & Missionary Alliance, Randall Burg, District Superintendent for the Mid America District of the C&MA, the Mid America District of the C&MA, and Dr. Robert Trempert, Interim Pastor just prior to the closing of the church. This C&MA District includes Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska. The Plaintiff also alleges that the C&MA secured and conveyed the deed without informing the congregation, then used unfounded charges to evict the whole congregation, which was about 30 regular attendees, and closed down the church and threw them out on the street. It is also the intent of former members of this church to alert and warn all C&MA churches, the church at large, and the Asian community throughout the world, that this could happen to them too! We are grateful to the many members of the national media have already asked to run this story even before this press release went out. These Chinese Christians and how the C&MA applied the Reversion Clause of its constitution to this church feels like this a “mortgage made in Hell”…you have to make mortgage payments to the C&MA [or its own approved lender], including interest…then when the building is paid off in half of the 15 year mortgage, you the borrower get to (have to) give the C&MA lender the building and property too…what a deal!  Many of these older saints who came from Communist China where they were persecuted hoped that this could not happen in the U.S., let alone at the hands of the church.  They found out they were wrong! On July 1, 2006, members of The Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs discovered that the locks on their building had been changed when attempting to attend a prayer meeting. One Sunday, July 2, 2006, the congregants came to worship and found out they were evicted from their own building, with the knowledge and consent, the Alliance, MAD, Burg, and Trempet proceeded to lock the Chinese Church out of its own building. Instead of taking care of widows and the homeless, the C&MA leaders created them, while simultaneously blaming these victims. Someone did come to their rescue and hear their Chinese church’s SOS cries for help. There was a good Samaritan in Colorado Springs who showed great mercy and provided shelter for these approximately 30 fleeing Chinese refugee saints and helped them get back on their feet again, and that was Pastor David Fitzgerald and the Garden Ranch Baptist Church. Then the Garden Ranch Baptist Church gave immediate relief under emergency powers, then helped them redevelop church polity and comply with requirements of the State of Colorado and the IRS to start a new church…all in a period of about six months…without strings attached.” “Contrary to what C&MA leaders would have you do, and that is hear the victims side of the story vs. just the perpetrators,  as good Christians and good Bereans, you should want to read the other side of the story for yourselves.”

     For complete report and documentary:

    http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/CMAChineseHijackingTOCPDF.pdf

      

    COMMENTARY ON REVERSION CLAUSE IN THE CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE CONSTITUTION:http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/ReversionCommentary2008PDF.pdf   
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    PS  In regard to the CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE I myself have encountered pastors, district superintendents too both  IN QUEBEC AND IN ALBERTA AND I TOO WAS SHOCKED FIRSTHAND TO NOTE HOW THEY DO READILY LIE, ABUSE PEOPLE, ARE RUTHLESS, REAL FACTS I HAVE A LONG TIME AGO BEFORE ALL THIS HAD DETAILED EVEN ON THE WEB, TO CANADA’S MAJOR NEWS EDITORS, THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENTS NOW TOO. 
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    To honest, and to be fair to all of the supposedly Christian pastors too,  at least 80 percent of all North American evangelical pastors they are certainly also not anointed  by the Holy Sprit, even the fundamental, Baptist ones now too, for they have not been called by God for  the ministry, and they are still only Hirelings, so it is not surprising that 70 percent of them had committed adultery too… Never mind their cheating, lying stealing now too. And why is it so many of them still do wrongfully think no one can rebuke them?
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    Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?
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    I was visiting in Montreal when God spoke to me and said a NW  Calgary Evangelical ALLIANCE Church Pastor was bad mouthing me. I admit I got upset and said Lord why right did he have to do that? God replied that the did not share this truth to upset me but rather for me to give God permission to deal with it. Within a few days of my return to Calgary I read next in the local newspaper that one of the Sunday school teacher under the same pastor had been arrested for sexual molestation of the boys in his Sunday School class. The same Pastor now was too busy worried about his own reputation,  to be bad mouthing me now too.
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    LET ME TELL YOU FIRSTLY THAT STILL THE MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP YOU CAN HAVE DAILY IS NOT AT ALL WITH YOUR LOCAL CHURCH, DENOMINATION BUT RATHER WITH GOD, JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, REPENTANCE….. AND HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW?
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    PSALM 13: 5  But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.  6  I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
     
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    (Jer 6:27 KJV)  I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way. 28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters. 29  The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away. 30  Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
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    (1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV)    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
    2  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
    3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
    4  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
    5  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
    6  Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
    7  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
    8  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
    9  For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
    10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
    11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
    13  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
    14:1  Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
    (Luke 17:3 KJV)  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
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    (Phil 2:15 KJV)  That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
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    (1 Tim 5:20 KJV)  Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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    (2 Tim 4:2 KJV)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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    (Titus 1:13 KJV)  This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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    (Titus 2:15 KJV)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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    (Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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    Heavenly Father I pray that you will help all, all of the persons involved to look up to you, to trust in you alone firstly to supply all of their needs, to help them and not in any person wrongfully as well. Supply the poor people what they need through the persons  of your choice, not ours and through your means not ours..
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    (James 1:27 KJV)  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.   (Deu 15:11 KJV)  For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.  (Phil 2:4 KJV)  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (Mat 25:34 KJV)  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35   For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as y.e have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    God bless you

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