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March 29, 2010

Bad MDs, nurses blame solely the Quebec government for ER crisis

Proper medical care and not pretentious Medicare is still our Canadian right.

And anyone who denies it needs to be incarcerated!
Doctors, Nurses, hospital administrators, Premiers, Ministers included.

 We pay a significant part of the Doctors, Nurse education, development, Training
and then they falsely try to abuse it to us by their deliberate poor performances.
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/canadas-rapidly-increasing-aging-seniors/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/professionals-what-a-joke/

“I am chronic believer of the “sit, wait, watch, see philosophy”.. and I like to sit and look as to what is really happening in police stations, hospitals, doctor’s offices, emergency clinics, government offices, churches too.. it is really an eye opener and a learning experience..”   

“The Quebec government false approach that its user fee would be making it cheaper to visit a doctor or a walk-in clinic than to show up in a hospital emergency ward for instance — does not hold water, seriously sick people can find no help in a doctor’s offices except for mostly a pretentious services. Only ER tend still have the necessary equipment to do the needed tests to help help the patients.  Quebec’s plan to introduce a user 25 fee for medical appointments signals the official opening of a new round of Medicare debate about the need firstly for better financial, fiscal management of the Medicare resources, personnel which too often still are being abused, mismanaged.
 
 
  
YOU TEND TO FIND OUT HOW BAD IT IS ONLY WHEN YOU REALLY GET SICK AND NEED THE SERVCIES.

and the Mismanagement of the too often unprofessional ombudsmen, doctors, nurses, hospital workers, social service workers will continue?
 
Guess what Mr. Charest ! Im English going to the voting booth to Vote for the PQ. Because your conservative background of privatizing everything on site is just unjust !” Read more:  Gazette

Many persons who are fed up with the APPARENT INADEQUACIES even in the socialized medicine would like us to believe that a private medical system is better… and that is mere wishful thinking.. for even in a private system there are too often the same inadequacies, even for the same reasons, the apparent lack of supervision of medical personnel and services, https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/14/the-great-debate-private-or-socialized-medicare/
 
and the Montreal West Island Lakeshore General Hospital is still one of the worst medical care services in reality, and too many people die there too often due to Hospital acquired sickness still too.
 
Putting more money into pails full of big holes is a waste of time… while the Federal and Quebec Health ministers like photo ups but are still being mostly paid for doing nothing to improve the too often STILL bad health care, where too many seriously sick people have to go to the mostly still bad ER.. and they want us all to pay more for it all too? 
 

One of the too many false reasons too many patients die in Hospitals is that almost none of the medical staff feel any personal, real, negative repercussions themselves.  One of the best way that I have discovered to get to know what a  person is really like, is work with him  just for one whole day,.. and   what   you now saw next.. lying, bullying, control freak..
 
When a Verdun Hospital doctors, nurse often says to the  patients as I have witnessed   I cannot do anything  to help you , go to your own doctor when you go home and tell him about it, that is not providing adequate medical aid.

Many matured senior patients with serious medical problems they tend to return solely to the Emergency rooms because they they have learned that family doctor does not have the necessary medical equipment, tools, tests  to diagnose their SERIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEMS, only the Hospitals tend to have them generally and so they now are regular users of the emergency room.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/canadian-health-care/

 
Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest, the crooks included. Here is the important main root, real problem the news media reports do  not face firstly. In reality the  Doctors, Pharmacist, Nurses are Gods. You cannot touch them or deal with them. The medical society itself forbids the criticism of any doctor, by any doctor or anyone else for that matter. for only lengthy self regulation can review any criticism of a bad doctors performances. The same fact generally applies to the unionized  nurse and hospital workers and so no work improvement, cost effectiveness can be attained,   thus having any possible effective cost or quality supervisors is also impossible. Our medical services always tend to be unsupervised, uncontrolled  with about 50 percent of the existing workers being pretentious, incompetent, inadequate, and so of course putting more money into a pail full of holes like this is an ever increasing  waste of money.
 
Proper medical care and not pretentious Medicare is still each of our Canadian right. And anyone who denies, fails to deliver it  it needs to be incarcerated! Doctors, nurses, hospital administrators, Premiers, Ministers included.  We pay a significant part of the Doctors, Nurse education, development , Training  and then they falsely try to abuse it to us by their too often undeniable  on the job poor performances and false demands for more money.   The number of doctors practicing   in Quebec is about  16000, and about 58,000 nurses as the statistics shows now we are all naively now  to believe that all of these professionals are saints, perfect and not one medical worker  has killed a patient by accident, neglect, failed to do their job adequately in meeting the sick persons needs? How absurd. When in the last 6 months I myself have often seen Medical doctors disagree many times on the reasons a person was sick, so never mind them even helping him adequately, and I saw  in Quebec the nurses give the wrong medication to patients, due to mistaken identify or error. Canada’s medical regulating bodies, administrators, supervisors, ombudsmen too often wrongfully cover up, hide the mistakes of their own.. Unacceptable.
 
 
IT WAS INTERESTING THAT   McGill UNIVERSITY OFFERED THE MEDICAL STAFF OF THE WEST ISLAND GENERAL HOSPITAL A VIDEO CONFERENCE DURING LUNCH HOUR ON “HOW TO DEAL WITH AGITATED PATIENTS”. I WONDER WHY THAT HAS BECOME SO BIG OF A PROBLEM IN THAT HOSPITAL? IS IT CAUSE OF THE MEDICAL STAFF’S TOO OFTEN POOR  MEDICAL SERVICES THERE STILL? AND THE MANY RECENT DEATHS ON THE 4 TH FLOOR? WHAT ABOUT RATHER A VIDEO ON HOW TO REALLY BETTER HELP THE PATIENTS?
 
 
 
Now I have also dealt with an incompetent, pretentious  doctor at the Montreal Lachine hospital , too many at the Royal Victoria hospital, even at the Montreal General Hospital, and by the too many  bad doctors at the Montreal West Island Lakeshore General hospital and now even more recently by clearly incompetent doctors at the Montreal Verdun Hospital emergency department but  also next by a new bad Pharmacist.

 

Now where is the immediate rightful real action on this whole related issues from all our elected officials, justice ministers, hospital administrators, health ministers?

Star lawyer calls for criminal probe into Winnipeg emergency room death City police will review evidence surrounding the death of double amputee Brian Sinclair after a national legal expert lambasted the force for its “shocking” failure to investigate why Sinclair was found dead after 34 hours in a hospital emergency room. Renowned criminal and human rights lawyer Clayton Ruby criticized the Winnipeg Police Service on Wednesday, saying he believes charges of criminal negligence causing death and failure to provide the necessaries of life could be laid against Health Sciences Centre and medical staff in charge of its ER. 
http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Star+lawyer+calls+criminal+probe+into+Winnipeg+emergency+room+death/2752459/story.html

NOW I HAVE HEARD ALL KIND OF REASONS WHY THE BAD EMPLOYEES WERE, ARE SUPPOSEDLY JUSTIFIED IN NOT DOING THEIR WORK PROPERLY BUT SOME HOW THE EXCUSES ALL APPEAR VOID WHEN COMPARED WITH THE OUTPUT OF THE GOOD WORKERS.
 
MY PERSONAL MONTHS OF DIRECT OBSERVATION ABOUT THE MEDICAL WORKERS WHO COMPLAIN THAT TOO MANY ERRORS ARE CAUSED BY THE WORK OVERLOAD ACTUALLY TEND TO MEAN, COMPLAIN ABOUT HAVING  TO DO ANY WORK AT ALL, FOR THEY TOO OFTEN DO THINK THEY MERELY SHOULD BE PAID EVEN MORE FOR COMING TO WORK. THESE SAME RATHER TOO OFTEN INCOMPETENT, UNQUALIFIED, PRETENTIONS WORKERS , THESE BAD PERSONS STILL  SEEM TO HAVE THE ENERGY TO SOCIALIZE WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES, TAKE LONG COFFEE AND LONG BREAKS, TO DO THEIR OWN BUSINESS ON THE SIDE.
  
These people, the same persons and the bad persons, managers  who now hired them too firstly now still are are all career incompatible and they should be clearly encouraged to find work elsewhere, to find work they like to do, such as being on social aid?
  
The lack of  DECENT OUTPUT is too often a false excuse for the whole system’s malaise the  mostly bad, pretentious supervisors.
  
Recently a supervisor went for a month long holiday and the medical workers all stopped working hard, started to play around, started to waste their time as I saw firsthand. That was the bad effect of having no good supervisor in place to to replace  him too.
 
If you are a medical professional, a medical administrator, or a health minister  and you had now failed to prevent the death of one persons even, or had specialty failed to properly treat their medical condition then that certainly is a prosecutable criminal offence  and for certainty you need to be incarcerated for your coldness,, indifference towards others now too. Clearly now as well when the MDs, Nurses, others falsely do blame the Quebec government solely  for ER crisis too, their own poor performances, they themselves have failed to do an adequate service to the public now in general as well.. They clearly already  had many other valid options available to exercise for them to make their complaints know without allowing anymore false abuse, neglect of any sick patients now too.
 
ER basically is the only place available for seniors who tend to have many repeat ER visit for their often more serious sicknesses  cause their original problems had not been adequately dealt with now too by their family doctors or the ER. Hospitals like to advertise and to pretend too often they are a fully equipped, fully staffed medical facilities when they are not so in fact too often now as well.. This too is unacceptable.
 
Any ombudsman in response who now merely offers me a cup of cold tea when she should be immediately instead offering truckloads of acceptable medical services is a very unacceptable approach now as well

“Clearly here this same hospital, related medical, support personnel have wrongfully, undeniably now failed in doing all they can, in now providing adequate medical care to all patients and in preventing the spread of disease to all patients, visitors thus causing to unnecessary pain towards others, deaths and which is rather a prosecutable, criminal acts of man slaughter as well..” http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/hazard+elderly/2704839/story.html

Reader’s comments..
 
“I agree with 3:58- I too even as of this weekend I again have seen the LGH ER staff involved in of all kinds “schmoozing”: flirting, chatting, and conducting a social life at the expense of the patients. You can spot them easily cause they are firstly bunched together in groups at the desks, or in hidden corners, passage ways, and talking about restaurants, food, non work related items..”
 
“Yes, the government is at fault. But doctors, nurses, stop the finger pointing. I’ve seen first-hand how you stand there and schmooze at the nursing station while patients wait. And I’ve seen ghastly treatment and callousness on the part of nurses and doctors alike. Yes, you’re all stressed. But that doesn’t excuse poor performance and mistreatment or negligence of patience. Too stressful for you? Move to the U.S. and enjoy the higher malpractice premiums. “
“What do I think?!?
ANYONE!?!
 
who’s been in an ER in the last 10 years? YOU know what I say is TRUE!!
YOU see staff working at the SLOWEST possible pace!!
And since people have started noticing… THEY HAVE installed shutters so we cant see them doing nothing!!
GREED of american salaries, and union mentality have led to US human beings being used as pawns in salary negotiations!!!(I’m pro union, except when the pawns are people!!”
 
“What the hell do Quebec politicians care about how bad our health care system is…have you ever seen one in any of the ERs…have you ever sat beside one in a doctor`s waiting room. Damn right you haven`t ,they go to the head of the line along with the rest of their family members.
 This problem with ER’s is only the tip of the iceberg of problems found in Quebec–AND ONLY QUEBEC (e.g. collapsing buildings and bridges killing people, third world road surfaces, no ambulance paramedics, puppy mills, animal abuse, no animal inspectors, language inspectors, racist laws, highest debt, highest unemployment, highest suicide rate, lowest number of doctors, closing hospitals, corrupt police force, etc, etc, etc). “

DOCTORS!! NURSES!! STAFF!! fight for your rights in some OTHER WAY!!!!”

“Hey I just got a great idea…. Instead of judges sending convicted murderers to death row for execution why not send them to ERs with fake illnesses that way they will die waiting for a doctor.”

“All civil and public servants, leaders, professionals included now must be allowed to face scrutiny from the governments, press and the citizens, and their costs effectiveness must be fully dealt with now as well.” For the good of us all still too.

“What the hell do quebec politicians care about how bad our health care system when they do not even reply to any of my letters of concerns on the matter firstly. In Quebec the rather self regulating doctors, nurses, hospital workers, police etc., are not supervised adequately or regularly . Federal Liberals are receiving some very controversial and explosive advice to try to overhaul of one of Canada’s most cherished national programs: Medicare. Claims of mismanagement of health care doctors, medical services is being raised since say soaring health-care costs are rapidly escalating and as the country’s aging population requires ever more medical services. Clearly still now putting more money into a pail full of holes is still bad-management It is unbelievable that after I had written about it for many years later 15 years even I can go to most local Hospitals or Convalescent homes and there too easily see the typical and mostly poorly supervised doctors, nurse, medical care workers

Lazy, incompetent professionals blaming others for their own inadequacies is par for the course. Clearly this same hospital, related medical, support personnel have wrongfully, undeniably now failed in doing all they can, in now providing adequate medical care to all patients and in preventing the spread of sicknesses, disease to all patients, visitors thus causing to unnecessary pain towards others, deaths and which is rather a prosecutable, criminal acts of man slaughter as well”. 

“I agree with 3:58- I too have seen staff of all kinds “schmoozing”: flirting, chatting, and conducting a social life at the expense of the patients. Within a patients ear reach, it is never appropriate to discuss your kids, your search for a house, blah, blah, blah. People feeling unwell don’t want to hear it, no matter how “cute” and animated you are. Have some decorum. BTW, where is the management when all this chit-chat is going on. Put a stop to it! It’s unprofessional. PERIOD! PATRICIA 
http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/hazard+elderly/2704839/nurses+blame+Quebec+government+crisis/2684918/story.html

More comments 

“It is still absolutely disgusting how they do neglect, abuse the elderly still too often in old age homes, hospitals too and when you complain they call the police against the whistle blower, try falsely to shut him up, even by trying to declare him as mental.. such is the acts of these too often unrepentant wicked professionals there now too now too often in reality. “”

“And people used to laugh at me when I said that women’s pain was not getting an adequate response from doctors or other medical staff… When a doctor sees a woman patient who claims she is in pain, often his-her eyes glaze over (“another one…”) and a bubble springs in their head (“another hysterical female”) (“just needs some good s-x…”), etc. etc. etc. Been at the pain end and ignored.
jolico “
 
“these idiot nurses and idiot doctors seem to forget that one day they themselves will be old and these same health care ER`s will still be around to treat them or pretend to treat them….my only regret is that I won`t be around to say ”’ see, I told you so ” now how do you like it ? “
“hey, there have never been social workers outside of banker’s hours at the Lakeshore Hospital. I don’t know what you and the person in the article are talking about.”
 
“The problem should never happen again. There will no longer be social workers in the Lakeshore Hospital outside of banker’s hours.
Since there have been so many negative news articles about the Lakeshore Hospital recently in the Montreal Gazette, the province will close down the hospital and will exile all of its staff to the U.S. “
 
“I was the one who had witnessed this undeniable abuse of L B.. and I had seen many more abuses of her next too… http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/maisson-herron/
 
“We own a nursing home in the West Island this is a common occurance.We are told not to send our patients.I am happy that someone is shedding light on the problems of the elderly. “
 
“I would like to know what happened to the social worker. Obviously this person is not qualified for the job they are doing. If they are in a union then they will just continue in the system, no questions asked and they will do the same thing again. ” http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/hazard+elderly/2704839/story.html

“9:47 AM on March 28, 2010 This red-headed worker, her administrative supervisor, and the senior hospital executives who have been given any previous complaints about the worker will be subject to strong and aggressive litigation. Research and perfection of this wide spanning legal action is under way. The gazette will be keep appraised only to the extent allowable under Quebec Law. If you know of persons injured or dead as a result of malpractice actions on the part of this specific social worker, or the Lakeshore hospital please send your stories and contact information to the author of this story. Our legal action is well funded and we are interested in additional case evidence.” http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/hazard+elderly/2704839/story.html

Yes, you all should read the Reader’s comments..

-Get Real. Fire the lazy nurses, decertify their union, and fill the job with decent nurses but now they pamper the nurses, they let them have it the way they want, so in that case fire all of their bad supervisors firstly. From over a 12 nurses I do  encounter daily in the ER I do see 2 that are decent workers and the rest need to get another job outside of nursing.. like dish washing..

-I have met many nurses, for I had married a RN, Nurse here in Quebec for over 12 years and  she too now certainly was not a saint, she was lazy, had unrealistic expectations, she always griped, she always wanted more money, and she was also incapable of house keeping, cooking, sewing as well, and eventually enough was enough, and I had to let her go, as simple as that too. So griping nurses do not get my support, sympathy..

-Every time I go see my mom at the hospital, the nurses station is full of nurses sitting and talking. Just try asking them for anything.  IMO, they are no different then blue collar workers in attitude and intelligence.
 
– I am so sick of hearing nurses complain. I have never seen them do anything in a hospital other then mouth off to the public, sit on their rear, and go for smoke breaks.

 – AND THE CITIZENS FIRSTLY WANT BETTER NURSES WHO DO REAL WORK

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Quebec+nurses+verge+burnout+union+warns/2740633/story.html

https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/now-putting-more-money-into-a-pail-full-of-holes-is-still-bad-management/

NOVA.SCOTIA (CBC) – Nova Scotians who write down their wishes for medical and personal care should they become incapacitated will have legal backing as of April 1.  The “personal directive” will replace the medical consent act and will allow individuals to create a living will with instructions that go beyond things such as “take no extraordinary measures to keep me alive if I have an irreparable brain injury.” The new legislation will also covers day-to-day requests, such as religious practices, personal grooming habits and health activities. “It can help patients, it can help their loved ones and health care professionals by removing doubt, conflict and uncertainty during difficult and emotional times,” said Van Horne.  The forms for personal directives will be available on the government website or at Service Nova Scotia offices across the province at the start of April. Officials say people won’t have to have a lawyer involved in drafting the form to ensure their wishes are carried out.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/100329/canada/canada_novascotia_ns_personal_directives

Now what about including a directive provision  for criminal prosecution all health care workers, health ministers who had failed to provide them their needed medical care too..

http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2010/02/mcgill-medical-doctors-in-montreal.html

 

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