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September 11, 2009

POLITICAL support softening, poll suggests

 vote-reality

GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPICAL LIE BY PM HARPER TOO…the prime minister has two messages – one for the public and one for Conservative supporters. B.C. Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh said the Tory government hasn’t changed its ways and Harper is still “a bully and will be a bully tomorrow.” Stephen Harper’s Conservatives ignore Canada’s multicultural heritage, have little pride in the country’s health-care system, and ignore Canadian cultural workers. Harper also told the Sault Ste. Marie crowd, “Imagine how different things would be if the Liberals were still in power. Imagine how many left-wing ideologues they would be putting in the courts, federal institutions and agencies.”
 
NOW ABOUT THE TOO MANY CONTROVERSIAL POLLS, WE SEEM TO KNOW THAT POLLS SELL NEWS PAPERS, BUT HOW REALLY ACCURATE ARE THEY?  FOR EXAMPLE WE ALL SEEM TO ALSO KNOW HOW POLLS CAN BE MADE TO LIE, CAN BE BOUGHT BY THE HIGHEST BIDDERS IT SEEMS AND CONTRADICT THE REALITY especially depending on what part of the country it was taken.. Election time is when the Biggest liars escalate what they have been doing all year now anyway
 
1  Liberal support softening, poll suggests ” The federal Liberals appear to be losing some ground in popularity, a new poll suggests, with the Tories taking a slight overall lead.” “Not so sure about this poll, I think public opinion is a better barometer of the political climate. And from what I’ve seen on this and other message boards, everyone is pretty much fed up with the status quo.  If there was a vote held today, I wonder which way it would go: “
Liberal = Agree  842     Conservative = Disagree 464
 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/09/09/ekos-poll.html
 
In its coverage of the opening of a new parliamentary session, La Presse declared that MPs returning to the House of Commons know they won’t be there for long, since an election is now “inevitable.” The La Presse story pointed to reports from sources inside the NDP that there had not been any negotiation talks between the party and Stephen Harper’s conservatives as evidence that NDP support of the government was unlikely.   http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/too-late-to-turn-back/article1288516/
  
The truth the news media does not publish” A few years ago, Canada was ahead in this ( internet) field. Then Bell ( and the CRTC) sat back and let the world pass us by, while the Conservatives lacked the vision to notice this was even a problem.” STEPHEN HARPER’S CONSERVATIVE DID NOTHING!   https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control/
 
The real fact of life is that there is an ongoing need of honest Journalism still,  of separating the fact, truth from the spins, lies, for the majority persons now even in Canada tend not to believe these polls cause we firstly do know they can bought, be manipulated to give the answer you want, to meet a hidden agenda still. Nor do we tend to believe automatically sadly  the too often lying news media, politicians and their associates as well, especially the lawyers. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/spin-canadians-warming-to-minority-rule/
  
” the same day two very dissimilar polls were published. One gave Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative party an 11-point lead over the Liberals while the second showed the country’s two oldest parties in a dead heat. http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/25/Canadian-Liberals-fan-fall-election-talk/UPI-12571251205605/
  
I wrote before and said that  I once was naïve and believed that the news was honest, professional , objective but now almost daily I encounter contradictory spin doctors lies under the heading of news.. The Conservative and Liberals news media both spin..
  
For another example- Posted for all to know the reality .. the news lies often too..  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/more-hidden-cash-grabs-higher-taxes/
 

Conservatives maintain slight poll lead Reuters Canada – David Ljunggren, Rob Wilson –  OTTAWA (Reuters) – Canada’s governing Conservatives are still slightly ahead in public opinion polls over the main opposition Liberals, but would have no …

One hour later..  Liberals lead Tories 36% to 33% Vancouverite –  A majority (55%) ‘disagrees’ (28% strongly/27% somewhat) that ‘the Liberal Party is ready again to govern Canada’. However, 45% ‘agree’ (12% strongly/33% …

so what spin do we believe here too?
 
 “It was also irresponsible a year ago when Harper called one, breaking his own election law in the process. Apparently, elections are only responsible when Tories have a lead in the polls.”
 

A penny wise, a dollar foolish.. the same people complaining about the election costs seem to overlook the vast amount of taxpayer’s money the Conservatives are clearly abusing. Why is that?

 
2 RCMP cleared of wrongdoing  RCMP investigates self, finds no charges will be laid. Of course..   http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2009/09/10/nwt-elder-rcmp.html
 
 I wonder also if a realistic poll would be taken of the RCMP as to what it would show now as well?
 
For example do you think the RCMP can be trusted to investigate it’s own officers, personnel for wrong doings?
 
 
Agree  49
Disagree 109
 

3  THE HYPOCRITICAL CANADIAN CONSERVATIVE PARTY, GOVERNMENT LIKE TO BE KNOWN AS THE LAW AND ORDER PARTY, BUT IT ITSELF HAS NOT BOTHER TO TACKLE, TO RIGHTFULLY DEAL WITH THE BAD RCMP, TOO MANY ABUSIVE COPS IN CANADA..  

 
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4:   Manitoba Liberals  Premier Gary Doer IS GUILTY, for he had   announced last month that he was stepping down and the following day, he was introduced in Ottawa by Prime Minister Stephen Harper as Canada’s next ambassador to the United States. Doer has not given a date for his departure, but the NDP leadership convention is set for Oct. 16-17. As ambassador-designate, Doer is in a “clear conflict of interest” by staying on as premier, said Liberal Leader Jon Gerrard. Doer’s new job means his boss is now Harper, not the people of Manitoba, Gerrard said. “It impacts, for example, the ability of the premier to stand forcefully up against the federal government when the interests of the hog industry are not being well supported or when the interests of people who’ve been flooded in the Interlake are not supported well, or when Tembec workers are locked out,” he said.    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2009/09/15/mb-doer-conflict-gerrard-manitoba.html
 
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5: The far right itself, THE cANADIAN cONSERVATIVES TOO,  often still coerces  others who do not go along with them by “Borking” them.   ”Taiwanizing”  means calumniating, ostracizing, excluding and hopefully ultimately de-legitimizing a country. Doing the same thing to a person is called “Borking”. Borking  is “to attack a person’s reputation and views unfairly,” includes the concerted attack on the challenger’s  character, background and philosophy.. Example to fire an honest government official in an attempt to prevent embarrassment to and exposure of a dishonest government officeholder who has conspired to commit high crimes, the 1973 unacceptable firing, massacre of Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox by Solicitor General Robert Bork, orchestrated by both  Bork and President Richard Nixon .  Conservative activists have been making the same action over and over again in regard to the so called liberals, leftists, news media  reporters: The borked opponents aren’t debated but merely  shut  down, censored,  their free speech denied, and often next immediately they are forcibly removed, kicked out, never allowed to be discussed again too by anyone,  and hopefully insuring their person and his views being totally excluded from the rest of the local group, community. The fact this is too often practiced in too many evangelical churches of all places is astounding. The real Irony and hypocrisy is the right wing often claim they rather now are being Borked BY THE LIBERALS even while they are Borking the others.    NOW why is SOME pastors so ready not to talk with others now too? so ready to smite them, to kick them out of church? If you have love for someone you are willing to talk with them, but if you do not have love for them, especially if, when you know they do not support you, do not agree with your presentation, do not agree  with your point of view, you as a pastor too no can personally can instead  refuse to love them, you refuse to talk to them, you find any excuse to reject, ostracize, divorce them basically to deny, to cover up the unacceptable reality that you yourself the pastor actually do not have any love for them. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/ 
 
 
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