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September 1, 2009

BC Pie in the sky – Pie in the Face

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No more mud pies please..

VICTORIA- BC- — A new Ipsos Reid poll that shows that more than 70 per cent of British Columbians believe they were “intentionally misled” during the election could signal Premier Gordon Campbell and his B.C. Liberals will suffer long-lasting effects on their credibility, Ipsos Reid vice-president Kyle Braid said Thursday. The poll released Thursday found that 72 per cent of people believe the Liberals willfully deceived the electorate.  Only 10 per cent of people contacted for the poll said they believe Campbell’s story that he and his government only learned the gravity of B.C.’s fiscal crisis once the election was over. Braid said that because the poll question speaks to core values like credibility and integrity, the strong message could endure well beyond the usual outrage that arises from single policies or decisions.  “There’s a potential that the perception they [the public] have been misled has a resonance that could last an awful lot longer over time,” said Braid.  58 per cent blamed the ballooning deficit on “mismanagement by the provincial government. The poll also found that 68 per cent of people disapprove of Tuesday’s budget, and that 82 per cent believe it will hurt them and their family.  ”http://www.vancouversun.com/news/residents+believe+Liberals+intentionally+misled+voters+poll+finds/1959745/story.html

But I believe we all should care because it speaks to the integrity and honesty of our politicians. And the day we stop caring about whether they are being truthful and forthright with us is the day we take a huge step back as a society. In the spring of this year, the Liberals campaigned on budget numbers that were complete fiction. And now we know that even they knew it.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/deficit-tally-fictitious-and-grits-knew-it/article1273992/
 
How come the  fiscal and budgetary materials released this week in BC failed to acknowledge the growing number of British Columbians who have lost their jobs in recent months. According to B.C. Stats, from July 2008 to July 2009, the ranks of the unemployed nearly doubled, growing from 119,000 to an even 200,000. And while the rate of job losses has slowed slightly in recent weeks, even the Campbell government expects unemployment to continue to rise, up to 8.3 percent of the total labour force in 2010. Of course, those numbers do not include the hundreds, and probably thousands, of workers across the public-sector who already have lost, or soon will lose, their jobs as a result of cuts to provincial grant programs. And that’s not all. In addition to cutting expenditures and putting people out of work, the Campbell government’s revised fiscal plan for 2009/10 outlines several measures by which Victoria will squeeze ever more money out of beleaguered British Columbians. Even B.C.’s Crown corporations are taking an ever-increasing amount of money out of provincial residents’ pockets.  http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/09/02/BizarreBudget/   Have the members of the BC legislature taken any pay cuts themselves now too? or are the merely taken another opportunity to gouge the citizens of BC? But now Hansen just looks shifty and evasive. So does premier Campbell..
 

B.C. budget forecasts $2.8 billion deficit, higher debt, increases medical premiums VICTORIA, B.C. – The B.C. government says the province is facing the greatest economic crisis in a generation and tabled a budget Tuesday that forecasts a deficit almost six times higher than it had anticipated earlier this year, increases personal health insurance premiums and reveals a drastically shrinking economy. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada/cp

 
Pie in the sky before the provincial election leads to pie in the face after the election
 
B.C. Liberals defend timing of budget deficit  ”  This is a government with no legitimacy. It looks to me that they suppressed information about deficits, planned cuts to programs, the escalation in welfare rolls, and destroyed emails related to the BC rail case.  No wonder our kids are cynical about democracy. “The minister said on May 12, the day the Liberals were elected to a third straight term, he was told the revenue shortfall would be more than $1.1 billion.” But Hansen said he still believed the province could keep the deficit down because it had received an offer from Ottawa that would give the province $1.6 billion if it implemented a harmonized sales tax.” Wow, can you believe this? The day of the election victory he claims they are told it will be more and in the same breath he admits to having conversations with the Feds in regards to a HST they previously claimed was not in the cross hairs. By the sounds of the statement they were already working with the Feds to implement it. Incompetence doesn’t even begin to describe these crooks. Contact your MLA’s repeatedly people. These guys can’t even keep their stories straight. Lies, lies and more lies should be the new Lib/Con mantra. ” “Drunk driver, doubling his own salary in 8 yrs as premier,… Sounds like an interesting character to have in politics, but not in BC please!.. Here you just anger people more and more until you will have to run! ..Right now I don’t think that the NDP is the solution to all our problems, but may just be the least of two evils!” “Gordo and his buddies didn’t know that the economy of BC was going to tank until after the election, then they are incompetent and don’t deserve to run our province. So, Gordo, what is it, are you incompetent or deceitful?” or both? ” Many have stated that the Premier & the MLA’s should have their raises recinded, expense accounts scrutinized and over-priced government executive positions reduced considerably.  This might hint at a shred of integrity! ” ” http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/09/02/bc-liberals-defend-deficit.html
 
If anyone doubts these guys are liars and crooks their  head must be stuck in the sand.
 
Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that people are not to be trusted, need to be supervised, and corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well.
 
So it seems liars will still say anything to get elected.Politics these days is sadly still a big liar it seems too.. at the federal and at the provincial levels, they lie to get reelected  and   clearly dishonest Ontario  Liberal provincial government seems not to be any better than the bad BC Liberal government now as well.  THEY LIE WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE HERE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO LOOK AFTER THE GOOD CITIZENS OF CANADA IS BASICALLY  . Interesting reading, comments too, Liberal & Conservative Politicians do lie too  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/bc-liberals/
 
and which clearly reminds me of our PM Stephen Harper who said there is no recession before the last election and next said that Canada was facing the worst recession after the election too.
 
“YES, I can quickly sum up my political experiences in Canada.. for decades now most people in Canada  seem to elect liars and alcoholics for politicians, and we have had now much too many of them elected as well.. Of course  it seems natural for alcoholics to lie, they seen to often lie that it is is ok to drink alcohol in the first place, and it seems natural for many lawyers who run for political offices, and many want to be politicians to lie to get elected.. Yes most people elect liars who tell them the things they want to hear.. we all know that had Stephen Harper told the truth that Canada was going into a major depression next, he very likely would have never got elected. so he said there was going to be no election or recession, he clearly lied. After he was elected he admits Canada was facing a big recession of course, how could he deny otherwise. I openly express the truth that we should stop electing any liars and alcoholics, even in the police forces, civil and public services now too,  and when it is confirmed that they are thieves, cheats,  liars or alcoholics they should be immediately fired, recalled.. as simple as that too. Some professing ostrich evangelical totally deny that the professing Christians drink alcohol, they have a problem with the alcoholics rather and not me I merely reported the truth, facts, that many professing Christians drink alcohol and falsely try to justify it as well.. Alcohol does a lot of brain damages, negatively affects your ability to work, to live normal, alcohol is a major cause of car accidents, tends to destroy your family life, so of course I have no use for alcohol or alcoholics anywhere. Neither should any of us not just MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. and a  bad immoral Conservatives is not better than a bad immoral Liberal, especially firstly the alcoholic ones. “
 
“How also now can the inadequate, pretentious  BC Liberal government even think of being reelected   when it clearly for years now too has not dealt adequately with the abused, the poor and needy persons of British Columbia, the homeless, the unemployed, the unemployable, nor even the bad RCMP just for a start.. like it’s bad resigned Justice Minister who clearly was only unacceptably pretending to function in office”..  
 
” Measures designed to protect the private interests of families and children, persons involved  ought not to be used to prevent me or the legislature, Parliament now rightfully highlighting, reviewing what I do believe is to be shortcomings in the applications of  laws. The lack of rightful prosecutions of persons who make perjury before the courts even.  “
 
“Remember those too typical pre-election Conservative Politicians lying words  even about holding now real people in the civil and public services, governments  accountable now for their wrong doings.. well how many new persons have been prosecuted, held accountable since the federal election? how many?? “
  
“Now Jason Kenney, Stockwell Day, Vic Toews, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper we are still waiting for you to show us all how you fully hold a guilty RCMP officers, and their bad superiors  fully accountable for their own wrong doings.  Putting criminals into jail serves a useful purpose but that now also includes the bad civil and public servants, the bad cops, bad RCMP officers and bad politicians … and not mainly just the bad citizens.. so now how many bad civil and bad public servants, bad conservatives has the new Conservative federal government put into jail this year.. please do tell us all the truth, list it for us… and rightfully install fair, honest, decent police commissions to protect the citizens and then not so many people will want to assault the police too.. we already know how abusive and crooked the too often lying cops, their sergeants, superiors  and their commissions tend to be.. what real practical good besides mere cheap words, unfulfilled promises are you all going to do about it as well?  Once again the Conservatives easily show to all what big liars they are when it comes to holding to accountability one of their own too.
  
” You can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all the people all of the time, and those people will next still set the others straight.. “
 
And in the last decades I have dealt, with written to almost every single federal and provincial justice ministers too and I too  can say for certainty most of them were liars, incompetent, pretenders too.. not surprisingly cause they were also lawyers.. and most of us already have a low, low opinion of these too often liars, leeches anyway..
 
 
NOW DO FIRE ALL THE BAD COPS, BAD MINISTERS, STARTING WITH THE JUSTICE MINISTERS, CANADA WIDE.
 
 
But it  seems this year  God is doing it for us right Mr. Bryant?  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/its-about-time/
 
and John van Dongen, the BC Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General ( or former, anway ), has resigned in the face of the scandal surrounding his driving license being suspended for too many speeding violations:

 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2009/01/12/judge-resigns.html

 

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