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September 1, 2009

BC Pie in the sky – Pie in the Face

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No more mud pies please..

VICTORIA- BC- — A new Ipsos Reid poll that shows that more than 70 per cent of British Columbians believe they were “intentionally misled” during the election could signal Premier Gordon Campbell and his B.C. Liberals will suffer long-lasting effects on their credibility, Ipsos Reid vice-president Kyle Braid said Thursday. The poll released Thursday found that 72 per cent of people believe the Liberals willfully deceived the electorate.  Only 10 per cent of people contacted for the poll said they believe Campbell’s story that he and his government only learned the gravity of B.C.’s fiscal crisis once the election was over. Braid said that because the poll question speaks to core values like credibility and integrity, the strong message could endure well beyond the usual outrage that arises from single policies or decisions.  “There’s a potential that the perception they [the public] have been misled has a resonance that could last an awful lot longer over time,” said Braid.  58 per cent blamed the ballooning deficit on “mismanagement by the provincial government. The poll also found that 68 per cent of people disapprove of Tuesday’s budget, and that 82 per cent believe it will hurt them and their family.  ”http://www.vancouversun.com/news/residents+believe+Liberals+intentionally+misled+voters+poll+finds/1959745/story.html

But I believe we all should care because it speaks to the integrity and honesty of our politicians. And the day we stop caring about whether they are being truthful and forthright with us is the day we take a huge step back as a society. In the spring of this year, the Liberals campaigned on budget numbers that were complete fiction. And now we know that even they knew it.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/deficit-tally-fictitious-and-grits-knew-it/article1273992/
 
How come the  fiscal and budgetary materials released this week in BC failed to acknowledge the growing number of British Columbians who have lost their jobs in recent months. According to B.C. Stats, from July 2008 to July 2009, the ranks of the unemployed nearly doubled, growing from 119,000 to an even 200,000. And while the rate of job losses has slowed slightly in recent weeks, even the Campbell government expects unemployment to continue to rise, up to 8.3 percent of the total labour force in 2010. Of course, those numbers do not include the hundreds, and probably thousands, of workers across the public-sector who already have lost, or soon will lose, their jobs as a result of cuts to provincial grant programs. And that’s not all. In addition to cutting expenditures and putting people out of work, the Campbell government’s revised fiscal plan for 2009/10 outlines several measures by which Victoria will squeeze ever more money out of beleaguered British Columbians. Even B.C.’s Crown corporations are taking an ever-increasing amount of money out of provincial residents’ pockets.  http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/09/02/BizarreBudget/   Have the members of the BC legislature taken any pay cuts themselves now too? or are the merely taken another opportunity to gouge the citizens of BC? But now Hansen just looks shifty and evasive. So does premier Campbell..
 

B.C. budget forecasts $2.8 billion deficit, higher debt, increases medical premiums VICTORIA, B.C. – The B.C. government says the province is facing the greatest economic crisis in a generation and tabled a budget Tuesday that forecasts a deficit almost six times higher than it had anticipated earlier this year, increases personal health insurance premiums and reveals a drastically shrinking economy. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada/cp

 
Pie in the sky before the provincial election leads to pie in the face after the election
 
B.C. Liberals defend timing of budget deficit  ”  This is a government with no legitimacy. It looks to me that they suppressed information about deficits, planned cuts to programs, the escalation in welfare rolls, and destroyed emails related to the BC rail case.  No wonder our kids are cynical about democracy. “The minister said on May 12, the day the Liberals were elected to a third straight term, he was told the revenue shortfall would be more than $1.1 billion.” But Hansen said he still believed the province could keep the deficit down because it had received an offer from Ottawa that would give the province $1.6 billion if it implemented a harmonized sales tax.” Wow, can you believe this? The day of the election victory he claims they are told it will be more and in the same breath he admits to having conversations with the Feds in regards to a HST they previously claimed was not in the cross hairs. By the sounds of the statement they were already working with the Feds to implement it. Incompetence doesn’t even begin to describe these crooks. Contact your MLA’s repeatedly people. These guys can’t even keep their stories straight. Lies, lies and more lies should be the new Lib/Con mantra. ” “Drunk driver, doubling his own salary in 8 yrs as premier,… Sounds like an interesting character to have in politics, but not in BC please!.. Here you just anger people more and more until you will have to run! ..Right now I don’t think that the NDP is the solution to all our problems, but may just be the least of two evils!” “Gordo and his buddies didn’t know that the economy of BC was going to tank until after the election, then they are incompetent and don’t deserve to run our province. So, Gordo, what is it, are you incompetent or deceitful?” or both? ” Many have stated that the Premier & the MLA’s should have their raises recinded, expense accounts scrutinized and over-priced government executive positions reduced considerably.  This might hint at a shred of integrity! ” ” http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/09/02/bc-liberals-defend-deficit.html
 
If anyone doubts these guys are liars and crooks their  head must be stuck in the sand.
 
Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that people are not to be trusted, need to be supervised, and corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well.
 
So it seems liars will still say anything to get elected.Politics these days is sadly still a big liar it seems too.. at the federal and at the provincial levels, they lie to get reelected  and   clearly dishonest Ontario  Liberal provincial government seems not to be any better than the bad BC Liberal government now as well.  THEY LIE WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE HERE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO LOOK AFTER THE GOOD CITIZENS OF CANADA IS BASICALLY  . Interesting reading, comments too, Liberal & Conservative Politicians do lie too  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/bc-liberals/
 
and which clearly reminds me of our PM Stephen Harper who said there is no recession before the last election and next said that Canada was facing the worst recession after the election too.
 
“YES, I can quickly sum up my political experiences in Canada.. for decades now most people in Canada  seem to elect liars and alcoholics for politicians, and we have had now much too many of them elected as well.. Of course  it seems natural for alcoholics to lie, they seen to often lie that it is is ok to drink alcohol in the first place, and it seems natural for many lawyers who run for political offices, and many want to be politicians to lie to get elected.. Yes most people elect liars who tell them the things they want to hear.. we all know that had Stephen Harper told the truth that Canada was going into a major depression next, he very likely would have never got elected. so he said there was going to be no election or recession, he clearly lied. After he was elected he admits Canada was facing a big recession of course, how could he deny otherwise. I openly express the truth that we should stop electing any liars and alcoholics, even in the police forces, civil and public services now too,  and when it is confirmed that they are thieves, cheats,  liars or alcoholics they should be immediately fired, recalled.. as simple as that too. Some professing ostrich evangelical totally deny that the professing Christians drink alcohol, they have a problem with the alcoholics rather and not me I merely reported the truth, facts, that many professing Christians drink alcohol and falsely try to justify it as well.. Alcohol does a lot of brain damages, negatively affects your ability to work, to live normal, alcohol is a major cause of car accidents, tends to destroy your family life, so of course I have no use for alcohol or alcoholics anywhere. Neither should any of us not just MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. and a  bad immoral Conservatives is not better than a bad immoral Liberal, especially firstly the alcoholic ones. “
 
“How also now can the inadequate, pretentious  BC Liberal government even think of being reelected   when it clearly for years now too has not dealt adequately with the abused, the poor and needy persons of British Columbia, the homeless, the unemployed, the unemployable, nor even the bad RCMP just for a start.. like it’s bad resigned Justice Minister who clearly was only unacceptably pretending to function in office”..  
 
” Measures designed to protect the private interests of families and children, persons involved  ought not to be used to prevent me or the legislature, Parliament now rightfully highlighting, reviewing what I do believe is to be shortcomings in the applications of  laws. The lack of rightful prosecutions of persons who make perjury before the courts even.  “
 
“Remember those too typical pre-election Conservative Politicians lying words  even about holding now real people in the civil and public services, governments  accountable now for their wrong doings.. well how many new persons have been prosecuted, held accountable since the federal election? how many?? “
  
“Now Jason Kenney, Stockwell Day, Vic Toews, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper we are still waiting for you to show us all how you fully hold a guilty RCMP officers, and their bad superiors  fully accountable for their own wrong doings.  Putting criminals into jail serves a useful purpose but that now also includes the bad civil and public servants, the bad cops, bad RCMP officers and bad politicians … and not mainly just the bad citizens.. so now how many bad civil and bad public servants, bad conservatives has the new Conservative federal government put into jail this year.. please do tell us all the truth, list it for us… and rightfully install fair, honest, decent police commissions to protect the citizens and then not so many people will want to assault the police too.. we already know how abusive and crooked the too often lying cops, their sergeants, superiors  and their commissions tend to be.. what real practical good besides mere cheap words, unfulfilled promises are you all going to do about it as well?  Once again the Conservatives easily show to all what big liars they are when it comes to holding to accountability one of their own too.
  
” You can fool some of the people some of the time, most of the people most of the time but not all the people all of the time, and those people will next still set the others straight.. “
 
And in the last decades I have dealt, with written to almost every single federal and provincial justice ministers too and I too  can say for certainty most of them were liars, incompetent, pretenders too.. not surprisingly cause they were also lawyers.. and most of us already have a low, low opinion of these too often liars, leeches anyway..
 
 
NOW DO FIRE ALL THE BAD COPS, BAD MINISTERS, STARTING WITH THE JUSTICE MINISTERS, CANADA WIDE.
 
 
But it  seems this year  God is doing it for us right Mr. Bryant?  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/its-about-time/
 
and John van Dongen, the BC Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General ( or former, anway ), has resigned in the face of the scandal surrounding his driving license being suspended for too many speeding violations:

 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2009/01/12/judge-resigns.html

 

Harper Conservatives running scared

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 OTTAWA — Canada moved closer to its second federal election in less than a year on Tuesday, after the opposition leader Michael Ignatieff announced that his Liberal Party would no longer support Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his Conservative government. “Mr. Harper, your time is up,” Mr. Ignatieff told a cheering crowd of Liberal politicians at a party retreat in Sudbury, Ontario. “We will hold Stephen Harper to account and we will oppose his government in Parliament.” The Conservatives do not control a majority of the votes in the House of Commons and rely on the support of the Liberals and two smaller opposition parties to maintain power. One of the two smaller partiers, the New Democratic Party or the Bloc Québécois, would have to join the Liberals in order to bring down the government. ( They very definitely will) Bob Rae, a prominent Liberal member of Parliament, said his party would introduce a motion of no confidence in the government at the first opportunity in the Parliamentary calendar, probably in early October. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/world/americas/02canada.html 

 
Fall election would be ‘irresponsible’: BairdCanada’s opposition parties would be “irresponsible” to trigger an election just as Canada’s economy shows signs of rebounding, Transport and Infrastructure Minister John Baird said Monday.
  
“heh-heh…running scared Baird ?”
“Having Baird anywhere near a responsible post is irresponsible. He’s a school yard bully and when caught screams “They made me do it”.”
“On the contrary , if we’re fed up enough (unemployment, isotope crisis etc…) an election would be the MOST responsible thing Canadians could do.”
“Our democracy is set in place for a reason, to keep a functional and capable hand on the rudder, and if Harper and his cohorts aren’t up to the task or capable of maintaining confidence, then they don’t deserve to rule. Simple as that. Only a buffoon would call an election “unnecessary” – especially when it is triggered by the government’s own ineffectiveness. Signs of improvement are not a license to act as if you’ve free reign over the country, nor is it an invitation to behave as though we can’t do without you. We have before and we certainly will again.”
“Irresponsible to enact the will of the people. Baird and his government have a strange definition of accountability, that’s for sure.  What’s next – no election because it will be Baird’s grandma’s 80th birthday?
” Irresponsible eh. Should be right up your governments alley. Please let’s throw these clowns out. Sorry to insult proffesional clowns.”
“”You don’t simply flick a switch and spend $12 billion on new infrastructure spending,” he said.” Well; they made close to $50B disappear pretty quickly.”
“It was also irresponsible a year ago when Harper called one, breaking his own election law in the process. Apparently, elections are only responsible when Tories have a lead in the polls.”
“Irresponsible, you mean like calling an election in the middle of a global recession?” “Wasn’t that what they said the LAST time we didn’t need an election? Will Parlaiment next become “dysfunctional”, so the Alliance can seek another mandate of doing nothing, and blaming others for it?” “When I think of “irresponsible”, Conservatives stand out.  ” “Spin, spin, spin. Tell all the people who are losing or have lost their jobs how the economy is rebounding. Tell the employees who are being laid off because their employer is moving or closing his business the economy is rebounding. These conservatives who are feeding us this smoke and mirrors, remember, are the same conservatives who went from a surplus to an ever increasing deficit. The same conservatives who said the deficit and recession were a good thing because it means the rich can get richer.” http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/08/31/economy-election083109.html
  
Since when can we trust anything a Conservative politician now says too?
 
 CBC news department persons told me they do not post personal things about Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his cabinet.. I guess they led the readers do all that..
  
 The NDP could save the Conservative government from a fall defeat if the Tories make strides to boost pensions, slay bank and credit card fees and help the unemployed. Senior New Democrats suggested the 36-member caucus could save the country from an unwanted fall vote if Prime Minister Stephen Harper agrees to support key NDP priorities.  But it is very unlikely because the NDP demands tend to me more demanding over the present, past Liberal ones.
 
 
I have too often these days said can you believe anything an often bullying, bashing  Conservative  cabinet Minister says, does too often now, they lie and spin much too much.. and now that we all are likely facing another election they say look at how good we are today, but what about yesterday, many of us have bad memory of what they have been really like, had failed definitely lived up their own promises and our misled expectations of them too now
 
The Conservatives are warning that a fall election would kill a popular tax credit that allows Canadians to recoup some of the money they spend on home renovations while the Liberals are on record saying they will still honour this tax credit and that is good current good example how Conservatives  lie and spin the truth.. Over the summer the prime minister urged Canadians to take advantage of the tax credit, even though it hasn’t actually been approved by Parliament now he is the one who created the mess now too. The Liberals protest that this ploy is dishonest because even if they defeat the Tories on the budget motion they would reintroduce the measure and pass it should they win power. “This is just a Conservative game,” Liberal finance critic John McCallum said. “We are 100 per cent committed to the home-renovation tax credit and will ensure the appropriate legislation is there so people get their tax credit.”  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tories-gear-up-for-battle/article1273588/
 
 
 
LET US ALL STOP ELECTING LIARS OR THE ALCOHOLICS * .  Most of us seem to have a really bad habit of electing liars, electing the people who tell us what we want to hear, AND MANY OF THEM ARE LIARS WHO TELL US WHAT THEY THINK WE WANT TO HEAR SO THEY CAN BE ELECTED. It is not coincidental for me but almost every alcoholic person  now is also a major denier, liar.. they lie they are not alcoholic to start of with, they tend to lie as to how much they really do drink, and they tend do not disclose often where the money for the booze really comes from often too. So when I encounter a big liar I also check to see if they are also alcoholic, or when I know they are alcoholic I tend to also know that they are big liars too. THAT IS WHY I WOULDN’T ELECT A LIAR OR AN ALCOHOLIC TO A POLITICAL OR A CHURCH OFFICE AS WELL. Now it  would it no be really great if we now had really next  elected decent, qualified, non alcoholic persons as well  who really care more than just about the job, about being hired, the money, winning, the office prestige and  if now we did elect  a genuine, good, adequate politician rather instead  who  really did care  about the good welfare of the people in the riding in reality.. AND WOULD    WORK ON THEIR BEHALF MAINLY AND NOT INSTEAD FOR THEIR OWN OR THEIR PARTY’S BENEFIT MAINLY.
 
Now here’s a basic secret I have learned, how they  the political candidates, and their receptionists now do treat me now is generally how they do also next generally treat the others, and so once again,  as I have often done that before too, I thus had decided to visit firsthand some of the local political candidates, to specially visit their campaign office in our riding.. after all I was honestly trying to determine who  I would vote for.. all I do is say hello, watch and listen as to how they respond, and I do evaluate what they do say too. And many of you all already know that after my last   run in in my own home with a bad local existing Conservative  party candidate representative , who also is just another false spin doctor, and  bad control freak, for certainty now I would not vote for  them or recommend them.  How come these people do not understand that a personal referral is one the best way to win.. for the costly advertising is very ineffective still. We have had enough political  losers already.   https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/let-us-all-stop-electing-liars-or-the-alcoholics/

*An alcoholic clearly is a person who has to, needs to  have two glasses of wine, or two bottles of beer  immediately at least,  or daily like  so many of the  Alcoholic politicians at least about 25 in the  average Parliament? Reality! These days it is too hard to tell the difference between secular persons and  the professing Christians . Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/abstainers/ 
 

 

(Prov 4:14 KJV)  Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. 15  Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. 16  For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. 17  For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. (Prov 5:22 KJV)  His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins. (Prov 6:16 KJV)  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,  18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
 
Projection contradicts Bank of Canada’s forecast that Canada is already out of recession and will experience growth this quarter http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/canada-to-lag-g7-economies-oecd/article1274198/

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