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July 15, 2009

I cannot trust you, FOR you lie to me all the time

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I heard firsthand one teenager saying to another teenager yesterday, “I cannot trust you, you lie to me all the time” and this next had made me reflect upon the reality that the average person lies 3 times in every ten minutes of conversation, and it also reminded me with my past years of undeniable dealing with Bell related to my internet download problems, they too had  lied to me all the time, by not admitting the truth first that there was a problem, nor next honestly admitting the cause of the problem. It seems that spin doctoring, misleading, lying to others is a very major part of not just the lawyers, used car salesmen, but a regular part of the sales, advertising, corporate way of doing business with consumers these days Canada wide now as well. http://blog.blazingangles.net/whatsthis/2007/09/the-art-of-lying-1.html
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Now take this statement for example.. about the CRTC’s Farcical hearings on the regulating of the interent speeds, the Internet upload and download speed controls.. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/thye-lied-mislead-about-the-internet-speeds-one-gets-at-home/
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“Currently there is no regulatory commission. Over Internet Service in Canada. Whether it be quality or privacy period.  I wrote a letter to the CRTC myself. About a breach of contract of server. Reply; Due to the lack of internet servers.. Have taken no stance in regulating them. Realizing the need for Canadians to have internet services available. you may try. Office of Consumer Affairs. Consistent quality, and privacy. As stated by contract agreement. Must be upheld. By Whom? ” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-asks-who-should-be-internet-traffic-cops/article1215954/
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 ” I came across a Canadian Press release yesterday talking about the poll and it really bothered me. No, the results are NOT valid. The only thing the poll showed with any accuracy is that everyone is ignorant on the subject. I say that those polled should be educated about traffic management practices and what the future may hold for Canadians if the big ISP’s are allowed to have their way, then they take the poll again. Bet you everything I own that the results of that poll will come out completely different than it did the first time.”  “But, even though “Most Canadians support the idea of Internet traffic management,” only about one in five of those surveyed had even heard of it, says the Winnipeg Free Press  And, “Interestingly,” blogs Michael Geist, just prior to the release of the survey, “one of the people who was called over the weekend (the survey was conducted July 9 – 12th) contacted me to report”.  What was the substance of the poll?  Questions about traffic shaping, “could be roughly summed up as ‘Did you know that your neighbour’s movie downloading is slowing down your Internet’?” – said the  informant.  “This doesn’t exactly inspire confidence about some of the poll results,” says Geist.  But then, nothing about the inquiry or the various ‘fact-finding’ processes surrounding it inspires confidence.”     http://www.p2pnet.net/story/25125/comment-page-1#comment-979019

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“OTTAWA – Most Canadians support the idea of Internet traffic management as long as all users are treated fairly, a new poll suggests.”
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Meaning that Most Canadians would support the ISP, internet service providers breaking their promises, contracts as long as they do the same thing to everyone else… wow, that is a complete absurdity.. get real… and if that is how THEY all now conduct their  dishonest polls then no wonder so many people think THEY are con men, liars  rather.. In reality even here unless you know and fully understand firstly the exact questions being asked. The Poll wording itself can very much influence the outcome, example do you still beat your wife, yes or no? This even falsely implies everyone bats their wife. That’s a crude example, but it makes the point. ” What “60% of Canadians” think is completely immaterial, about as significant as what I think about the arrangements of the airbags in a Rolls Royce. What counts is, what the paying customers think of cartel like arrangements by the providers of having their services “throttled”.” Will give you a very different Poll answer.. Amazing how many non technical Canadian news reporters skirt the truth and distort it here too. 
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And the American public is likely similarly confused on the topic. Valid Education on the issue is a problem.  Over 54 percent of Canadians had  said that they did not understand the topic and how the issue affected their use.  Only 15 percent said that they understood that were affected (or would be affected) by such actions. 22 percent voiced strong opposition, saying such practices were wrong regardless and if you mention internet throttling on a P2P forum that is generally composed of more technically minded computer nerds and you’ll instantly evoke  strong emotion opposition. The Survey  shows public’s overall ignorance of the effects of traffic management on their connections for the majority of average Joe or Jane in the public, the issue is poorly understood and falsely not a worry at all. 
AND WHAT DID BELL, Rogers AND THE OTHER BIG CORPORATE INTERNET GIANTS  PAY THEM  ALL TO LIE  HERE TOO?
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NOTE: This really is a hypocritical and dishonest poll firstly  again.. for the basic truth, reality is that most Canadians firstly still do not EVEN yet know for sure if they are actuality getting their promised internet upload and downloads speeds FROM THEIR ISP..  even because they still  firstly do not even  know how to measure the speed.. so  now their polled opinion realtedly does not count much when their real ignorance FACTOR IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. Here is what you all do need to first do to to check the computer’s network speed at http://www.acanac.ca/speedtest/
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And after that ONLY THEN YOU CAN ASK MOST CANADIANS WHAT INTERNET SPEED THEY WERE PROMISED BY THEIR ISP COMPARED TO WHAT   THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOW REGULARLY, CONSISTENTLY   GETTING ..
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THEN ONE IN A VALID POLL CAN NOW HONESTLY ASK THEM ALL IF THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE INTERNET TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT OF THEIR SPEEDS .. and give me, us all an honest poll.
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Rogers, Bell, Videotron, Shaw all only care about one thing.. maximum profits.. motivated by maximum greed.. finding an excuse to charge the customer for more.. and that they have done with their regulating, capping… and no one cares about what the consumer thinks, the CRTC included.
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Many Other citizens have agreed with the truths that I have written even  that the ISP providers themselves FIRSTLY  are the main reasons the internet is congested and that they the ISPs are also guilty of false, misleading advertising to get customers too.  
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“It’s time for our ISP’s to refund us for the speed that they claim to provide but we are unable to get. Let’s see… I should be getting “up to” 10 Mbps and I am only seeing 500 Kbps… it’s time for Rogers to cough up! Anything less than 80% of their claim should be considered as misleading the customer and the ISP should be held accountable for this infraction.”
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” what about just giving me what I pay for. How can our government let them charge us for a service and then not provide that service?”
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“The BEAN counters will be in the back room checking to see how they can squeeze another 2 cents out of any decision coming from this meeting.”
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“Internet throttling benefits customers: Rogers, Shaw – I cannot help but notice that Big Business in Canada wants ALL the power. Power to limit what Consumers can and cannot access on the Internet. They throttle our speeds at their whim, they want to inspect every data packet we upload or download and they want to make criminals out of us all, while at the same time charging us extra money to purchase blank media for copying . Yet at the same time they fill our inboxes with Spam. 9 out of every 10 emails I get are Spam trying to sell me something or con me out of my money. They fill websites with Bots to follow every click of our mouse to “better tailor our individual likes & dislikes”, while completely removing our right to privacy without threat to prosecution or fines. We have far too much to lose people if we let these Corporate archaic monopolistic behemoths win this one.”
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“Of course the Rogers would say this. Their only interest is controlling access, gouging customers, lying about speeds, eliminating competition and holding onto their monopoly. Anything a Telco/ISP has to say should immediately be taken as the exact opposite of what is good for the consumer. We need Net Neutrality and we need it RIGHT NOW” 
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– CRTC Neutrality hearings begin with conflicting claims that their exists adequate capacity by the ISP,  or they do really lack capacities, to allow everyone unrestricted, unhindered download access presently?
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– Quebec to end automatic cell phone contract renewals, surprise fees  and what about the Internet service  providers, who are the same firms doing the same bad things there too to the customers, well? 
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 Ever wonder besides viruses that as time goes by you notice that   your computer net is slower, and slower, well it is no  secret Bell, Rogers, and others cannot handle the continually the increasing demands caused by computers and iphones now too. So their systems break down, have failures too often, are over used, in over capacity mode.. and these carriers seem to  have been to cheap to rectify the problem, update, modernize their communication equipment..
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Sadly AT&T for a start is not the only carrier that doesn’t have presently  adequate  existing bandwidth to support all of their customers, iPhone users  using  an “unlimited” data plan  and that would now include Rogers and Bell? who are clearly already capping their existing customers and others to over come this serious shortcoming,   and in spite of what they do all  promise now they might have in the future I really rightfully do not believe them.  ..  why Rogers and Bell, others  are always a LOSER. Always looking for some way to SOCK IT TO  their customers over  and over again and find another excuse to make the customers pay more. If they all knew the whole truth the Lower subscriber usage means smaller revenues for carriers like Rogers , Telus Corp  and Bell, BCE Inc so they lie to get more customers..  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/
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I have openly rightfully shared with the Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper’s office that Bell Sympatico undeniably is one of the most dirty, immoral, abusive Corporation, firm I have dealt in Canada in my lifetime. One that even falsely suppressed my complaints against it, my right of free speech as well. Because Bell Sympatico has UNACCEPTABLY TOO often HAD breached my ISP contractual agreement and NEXT Bell Sympatico had forcibly falsely disconnected my ISP service with them too thus next I have been forced to switch over to the Canadian http://www.acanac.ca/ -Residential High Speed ADSL without any Limits and No Blocked Ports or Traffic Shaping, plus Unlimited Downloading 100 GB of Online Storage Up to 5 Mbps Download and 800 Kbps Upload $18.95 per month
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Here is 2 very popular past helpful posts of mine for Still Many Consumers do not know how to choose firstly an ISP provider, and what their options are too.
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a:  The Internet suppliers (ISP) promised Internet speed is in fact generally a false one, for it is generally only a theoretical speed, and not even the true average speed, an optimum speed under the perfect conditions only, for it depends on many other factors, such as the conditions, type of the connected cable, phone lines, branch services, other equipment. It is in fact like me promising you that you can have all the money in my bank account, but meanwhile I let many other persons collect from it as well. http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/2007/10/choosing-cable-or-dsl-internet-service.html

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b:”Canada’s leading telecommunications carrier, BCE Inc and  Kevin Crull, president of Bell Canada’s residential services division, is asking Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his cabinet to reverse a CRTC, which was reaffirmed by regulators on March 3, 2009, ruling requiring the company to offer the same bandwidth speeds to wholesale ISP customers as it does to its own subscribers. The CRTC ruling according to Preexisting regulations already rightfully requires incumbent phone companies (including BCE) to rent network access to smaller internet service providers, so as to foster competition and keep the cost of basic internet service at a reasonable level. This is a very reasonable demand too. Monopolistic  BCE naturally argues that the December decision  will cut into it’s own revenues  nevertheless the Conservative government for the good of all Canadians now, should not listen to the falsely abusive companies like BCE, and not remove these regulatory barriers  ”  

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Imagine that Bell has been in Business for many years and is still guilty now clearly of misleading advertisements, fraudulent and unacceptable business practices, not living up to their contractual obligations, as I now have PERSONALLY WITNESSED, EXPERIENCED  and undeniably detailed to even Bell and many others many times too now . I Paid for a high speed unlimited download service but that is not what I got next. I got low internet speed at a high price. With Bell you have to check your actual delivered speeds , “internet download and upload speed test” cause Bell seems to change it to suit themselves..    Dealing with Bell is absurdity filled with problems. In spite of their adds, promises Bell Sympatico services are all mostly very poor, they also mostly break their promises to me too and they too Cleary do not honor their contract obligations, their own 2 days respond promises now too. As I have detailed many times elsewhere they Bell have never given me my one year reliable, steady, continuous high speed internet services too, have never kept their contract obligations I have been with Bell for many years. Note since Day one of even Jan 2007 I have hundreds of email that I had sent to Bell about their bad internet services too.. and I had sent copies the news media , to the Major MPs, for the last 15 months. I have a High speed unlimited Internet download contract with Bell since day one and they Bell next even had tried many times to have me up change from my 6 meg download account to their new Bell higher speed plans, and I had clearly refused saying back to them as to why should I go the higher speed plan when they could not even deliver me the promised 6 meg downloads, and also I had specially also said that if I had changed download plans I would lose my unlimited download plan, so I made no changes, authorized no changes to my contract with Bell the last 15 months. On top of all my many complaints about dealing with Bell on April 3 2007 by phone and in writing I specially also had asked Bell to give me simply a full detail listing of all my monthly payments, a full account statements specially for the last 15 months, and I told them I cannot seem to access my online Billing, something I have complained to them about before too, and they so far have refused this simple request too and the Bell have not done so to date. This is absurd, ridiculous and unacceptable in this computer age when they can spit out my legitimate request in a second. Bell Sympatico is quick to phone you and to harass you to demand their payments, but Bell Sympatico in return is very slow to deal with the customers, requests, problems in my 15 months experiences. To get proper services from Bell it is like mating elephants it has to be done at a very high level with plenty of thrashings and noise. Unacceptable. Reality- Dirty Dirty Bell Sympatico .the most abusive Corporation, firm I have dealt in Canada in my lifetime. Sadly there are other bad firms now too..  ‘ https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/bell-sympatico/
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– CRTC to look at how Internet traffic is managed to avoid congestion – THE TRUTH, REALITY? is that Bell seems firstly to have some of the CRTC personnel in their back pocket so this hearing is a farce?

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– CRTC to look at how Internet traffic is managed to avoid congestion-  Bell Canada’s major ISP  ongoing  lying distortion to the news media, CRTC, others , undeniable breach of their past contractual obligations to it’s own customers too,  that their need for  capping the internet downloads was due to  the internet congestion traffic it now still faces as an internet service provider is now due solely to the vast P2P , Torrent,  downloads is still a A FALSEHOOD, A FALSE SCAPEGOAT, A LIE AND NOT THE REALITY, NOT THE TRUE FACTS. In fact BASICALLY  Bell’s congestion problem was due to BELL’S OWN FAULT, due to the fact that Bell had lied, and had oversold FROM THE START, INITIALLY  their OWN internet capabilities services to ALL OF it’s customers, others. Because Bell NOW even had obtained many of it’s customers under lies,  false statements, false pretence, Bell also now should not  even be  allowed to keep all of it’s own customers it now had obtained as well. Bell’s congestion problem was initially, undeniably, really due to the truth that   it’s own internet system initially were never adequately, fully designed, upgraded to be used as a high speed internet system to all the customers as advertised, rather Bell’s ISP in general was and it is still mainly a low speed internet system Canada wide. Bell needs to be forced to disclose fully, in  the truth to all persons in Canada about it’s actual internet capabilities, even telecommunications, iPhone  in all areas now as well. You really cannot continue to grow a business based on lies, distortions, falsehoods, even if it is Bell. Additionally Bell monopolistically, falsely is capping all of   the internet downloads is to allow the future expansion usages of iphones, and for downloading of customers movies rented from  Bell.
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–  The government ( s ),  federal and provincial, should first look at the many, undeniable practices of false, misleading practices by persons like Bell selling their ISP services.. if Bell had firstly told the whole truth about their actual capabilities , they Bell would not have had next a major  traffic congestion problem because few people would have initially even  taken their ISP services over cable in fact, for in truth the cable ISP  can even now be more readily, quickly, and  less costly expanded too!!! Bell knew that and so it lied about it’s ISP capabilities to all.. still does as well..

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– The governments, CRTC, etc,  falsely do allow the corporations to lie because because THEY LIE THEMSELVES AND OFTEN…. who is being lied to when I have posted all these truths facts on the net, to many now too.. it just confirms who the liars now are still  too.

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 No matter how the lying weasels spins the facts, tries to weasel out of the truth, the truth is still know by many too..

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APPROPRIATE  PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST.

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FOR A GOOD NAME IS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN ANY AMOUNT OF SILVER OR GOLD AND A TARNISHED ONE IS WORTHLESS.

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– There are some legitimate still reasons for the ISP’s high  costs. one is the fact that the telecommunications companies tend to be undeniably  very poorly managed, have too many cheap, incapable, incompetent personnel https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/bell-telus-team-up-to-upgrade-networks-and-why/

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“If you (Bell) were half as good at running a company as you were at lobbying,  maybe you’d have a better network,”  Quebecor executive vice-president Luc Lavoie who took a shot at the quality of Bell Canada’s cellphone service: . http://news.aol.ca/article/telecom-summit/258999/
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Bell’s bad acts are Not acceptable, 
  
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I too at least am known for telling the truth and that is worth much too… Bell is a known liar and that is not worth much..
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 The big corporate do prefer no outside regulating bodies,  they want to to deal with each customer individually, divide and conquer approach, for they are afraid of massive class action suits, and there are many now against Bell even

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Quebec’s pension fund IS NOW IN REAL TROUBLE   “The new head of the fund is Michael Sabia, former head of Bell Canada Enterprises, who took over in March of this year.” QUEBCERS AND THE Quebec’s pension fund IS NOW IN REAL  TROUBLE,  JUST LOOK AT THE BAD EFFECT THE SAME PERSON SABIA  HAD ON BELL, WHOSE STOCKS, SALES, SERVICES, CUSTOMER SATISFACTION  HAVE GONE DONE DRASTICALLY. I HOPE THEY ARE ALL NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO LET HIM INVEST OUR MONEY INTO BELL AS WELL. Now also add to this Quebec’s Minister of Finance, Monique Forget, who always seemed to forget me too,  her  sudden resignation  from politics and thus who will not be around to answer what she also knows about this affair.. It sure looks like a cover-up…
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Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that in the real world many people are not to be trusted, they do need to be supervised, and major corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well.

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Here still  is what I cannot understand about the federal job creation programs carried out under both the liberal and conservative governments, is the necessity it seems to give money firstly to the municipalities, as though they have a direct effect on voters.. Nothing can be farther from the truth for  neither the police themselves, nor the municipalities have a significant vote as to how the citizens will vote on election days. The only group  that can likely have any effect on the voters are pastors, and priests in fact.
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 Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians, corporations  now as well..
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do see also
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/to-bell-sympatico/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/unfair/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/bell-internet/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/why-many-businesses-fail/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/bell-bce-sympatico/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/is-your-isp-still-even-watching-you/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/the-war-against-bell/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/bell-throttles-internet-speeds/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/and/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/bell-lied/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/i-cannot-trust-you-for-you-lie-to-me-all-the-time/
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/deceptive-unacceptable-unfair-business-trade-practices-unreliable-internet-access/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law/
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/this-next-was-so-predictable-even-by-me-too/
 https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/action-not-mere-words-needed/

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