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February 17, 2009

It is getting worse for the RCMP


Tax payer’s money abuses, false expense account statements, stealing, tax evasions,   obstruction of justice, cheating, lying,  drunkenness, impaired driving, pornography,  Adultery, VERBAL, PHYSICAL ABUSES, are all ESPECIALLY unacceptable for any civil and public servants. It is a clearly established fact with good basis as to why our Canadian leaders, politicians, police, military, public and civil servants  who are always to be exemplary are even personally are to held to a higher standard, accountability in reality.  

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty is one of the best approach serving everyone’s best interest too.  “In the case of police, it is in everyone’s best interest that there is full, effective, independent, transparent and objective oversight. It goes without saying that an absence of effective oversight will inevitably result in the erosion of the community’s confidence in the police.”
 People in leadership office do have to face higher penalties as an example now too. It is clearly established, accepted fact by most people that those in leadership civil and public servants cops, teachers, ministers, politicians included  are always to be exemplary in behavior,  conduct and they do need to maintain their high standards even out of their working hours, thus to do so they are also to be exemplary  judged, prosecuted  for their own wrong doings with a higher standard over those of us ordinary folks. Too many police officers are now too often guilty of their most serious neglect of public trust and their duty. The related truth is that neither an independent police investigation, a new police commissioner,  a promised provincial or federal investigation, or just more politicians promises too often still   will not bring the much needed justice. All of the governments can prohibit the initial and further employment of any known racists for any jobs, and can  punish them for their racists acts, views. Police managers continue to promise the reforming of bad cops and the bad cops keep killing, abusing  innocent persons. The possible retaining of bad  police officers is always anyway a false myth. What thus is always needed is the real  the dismissal, criminal prosecution, of the guilty cops. So where is it? Speeding is not the main cause of car accidents, impaired driving is, but too many cops are alcoholics it seems who wrongfully do sympathize with drunks and as a result do not arrest drunks all year


And why did it take decades now to cause this RCMP declaration  to come forth? OTTAWA – The RCMP plans to ask outsiders to investigate serious incidents involving Mounties.  Commissioner William Elliott says cases in which officers are linked to death, serious injury or criminal behaviour will be referred to provincial or federal organizations for investigation.  Where no such regimes exist, the policy allows the national force to ask an “external law-enforcement agency or other duly authorized investigative agency” to conduct the probe.  And in cases where that’s not possible, the RCMP may appoint at least two Mounties from another province, along with independent observers to review their findings.  Any officers assigned to investigating their own will be screened for possible conflict of interest and, where possible, the primary investigator should outrank the subject of the investigation. Elliott says the RCMP “must strive to be as open and transparent as possible and fully accountable” for its actions.  “We would prefer the RCMP never to be called upon to conduct investigations of our employees,” Elliot said.  In some provinces, regimes are in place to conduct independent investigations.  “The RCMP encourages the adoption of independent investigative bodies for all jurisdictions.”


Public Safety Minister Vic Toews welcomed the announcement.  “Our government’s position continues to be that effective review should be external to the force,” Toews said in a statement. Would be nice if he by example practiced first also what he preaches to the RCMP for this perverse  Conservative Hypocrite and his government have abandoned their once promised pre election goals of transparency and accountability for the bad acts especially of their own members even by shutting down parliament recently!
Public complaints against the RCMP climbed by almost 35 per cent in the year ending March 31, the force’s watchdog said in an annual report that also cited continuing concerns about the Mounties’ use of Tasers. The Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP said the most common public gripe against RCMP members during the last fiscal year–one in five — involved allegations of rude, dismissive, biased or non-responsive behaviour by an officer. Bad attitude was closely followed by complaints about the quality of RCMP criminal investigations, ranging from allegations of improper witness interviews and improper handling of evidence to concealment of facts or misleading reports. These accounted for 17.3 per cent of the complaints. The report by the independent review body, which was released Thursday, said the number of public complaints increased to 1,692 in 2008-09, up from 1,258 the previous year and 956 in 2006-07. The commission, which is headed by Paul Kennedy, took credit for issuing a report a year ago that has pushed the RCMP to rethink Taser use, training and reporting. The commission said, however, it still has concerns. Among other things, it said it is conducting an investigation into all in-custody deaths up to February 2009 involving the use of a Taser by a member of RCMP. It also said it plans to release its final report by Sept. 7 into the death of Robert Dziekanski, the Polish man who died after being Tasered by RCMP officers at Vancouver’s international airport. Based on the commission’s analysis of the 2008 statistics, the report said, the Taser is increasingly being used as a deterrent. It said the weapon was taken out of the holster but not fired in almost 50 per cent of the cases it was used. Still, the commission said, it’s concerned that calls involving “mental health” or “suicide” resulted in more Taser deployments than any other incident type, especially when there was no evidence in the usage reports that mental health calls were any more risky than other incident types. Kennedy warns there is a growing perception of a trust deficit with the RCMP that must be addressed. “The trust deficit can be eliminated by increasing transparency and accountability of RCMP activities by means of an enhanced regime for civilian review of RCMP activities,” he wrote. “Failure to address this issue increases the risk that distrust will become the dominant characteristic of the public-police discourse.”
CALGARY – Tasers in Alberta will be tested annually under new guidelines released by the provincial government.  Police officers will only be allowed to use the conducted energy weapons under certain circumstances set out by the document. It also says an officer who believes a suspect may cause injury to him or herself or a bystander can use a Taser, but someone who is simply running away isn’t enough of a reason.  A use-of-force report must also be written every time one of the weapons is deployed.  Alberta has been reviewing its Taser policy and also looked at the report into the 2007 death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport after he was repeatedly zapped by a Taser.  The B.C. government responded to the report by ordering all police to restrict the use of stun guns. 
The Braidwood Inquiry into the Taser-related death of Robert Dziekanski has been blown up and left in ruins by the revelation a key RCMP e-mail was withheld from the commission. After months of outrage about the conduct of the four Mounties who responded to Vancouver Airport Oct. 14, 2007, who can believe that at the last minute, a federal lawyer would produce what many would consider a smoking gun — an e-mail saying the officers decided to use the Taser before confronting the Polish immigrant? If true, the Nov. 5, 2007, e-mail titled “Media strategy — release of the YVR video,” from RCMP Chief Supt. Dick Bent to assistant commissioner Al McIntyre, establishes the four have been lying through their teeth. This critical document suggests the four officers committed perjury and that senior officers sat silent while they did so. Worse, it seems there are many other documents that have not been turned over that may be relevant. This e-mail was one of 260 documents on a CD sent by the RCMP to the justice department last April, yet the federal lawyers didn’t open the CD until last week.. Commissioner William Elliott’s carefully parsed press release was equally unbelievable: “This was simply an oversight. Unfortunately in an exercise of this magnitude, such an oversight can occur.” Bollocks. No one but a moron overlooks the import of an e-mail like this. The officers deny the explosive content is true and Roberts says Bent was wrong in what he said. But their protestations ring hollow after almost 18 months of bluster and denial. So does Elliott’s threadbare these-things-happen excuse. The situation is as bad as the most virulent critics of the Mounties feared. This is no longer about four officers who made mistakes in judgment: It’s about an organization that thinks it is above the law.  .It is time to thank commissioner Braidwood for his excellent work in bringing these unsettling facts to light and it’s time to appoint a special prosecutor.  The B.C. Law Society should also begin an investigation into the conduct of Roberts and any other federal lawyer involved in this staggering lack of disclosure. That was not an “oversight.” It was professional incompetence or a cover-up.
 Robert Dziekanski had already been stunned twice when one of the four RCMP officers who confronted him at Vancouver’s airport called for another jolt of the Taser.  “Hit him again! Hit him again!” Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robinson can be heard shouting on a bystander’s video of the fatal confrontation.  Robinson, the officer in charge in the early morning hours of Oct. 14, 2007, is scheduled to testify Monday at the inquiry into Dziekanski’s death. Robinson will be asked to recall what orders, if any, he gave the three other officers; why he asked for another Taser shock even though Dziekanski was already on the floor; and what he was doing to ensure Dziekanski was still alive before firefighters arrived.  As well, Robinson will likely be asked about inconsistencies between the other officers’ testimony, what they initially told police and what was captured on the video.  The officers’ dinner break at the RCMP’s airport detachment was interrupted by a radio dispatch about a man throwing furniture in the international terminal.  Three of the officers have already testified they never said a word to each other and were given no orders from Robinson in the several minutes it took them to drive to the airport and walk to Dziekanski, who had been at the airport for nearly 10 hours and didn’t speak English.  The other officers have said that, after a brief interaction, Dziekanski became difficult when he tossed his hands in the air and took a few steps away.  When he turned back toward the officers, Dziekanski was holding a stapler, which the officers have said made them feel threatened.  That’s when Const. Kwesi Millington delivered the first Taser shock.  The weapon was used five times in all, although it’s not clear how many of those connected with the man.  As Dziekanski lay unconscious on the floor, his hands cuffed behind his back, the other officers have testified that none of them were performing proper pulse and breathing checks.  An airport security guard said he checked Dziekanski’s pulse only after he saw Robinson trying to find a heartbeat while wearing leather gloves.  When firefighters arrived, the fire captain on duty that night has said it didn’t appear as if anyone had been monitoring Dziekanski, who by then had no pulse, wasn’t breathing and, according to fire Capt. Kirby Graeme, was likely already dead.  And Graeme said the officers initially refused to remove Dziekanski’s handcuffs.  The inquiry has also focused on inconsistencies in what the officers initially told police, and the accuracy of Robinson’s initial statements is sure to be scrutinized.   The other officers admitted making several mistakes in their police notebooks, statements to homicide investigators and internal reports about what happened.   For example, the officers have said it took several Taser shocks before Dziekanski fell to the ground, even though he collapsed seconds after the first deployment.  They also incorrectly said Dziekanski had to be wrestled to the ground. One even claimed Dziekanski kept walking toward the officers with a stapler raised above his head after he was stunned.  The officers have insisted their early accounts represented their best recollections of a stressful, fast-paced event.  Millington was accused by the lawyer for the Polish government of lying about what happened to justify his actions – an accusation the officer flatly denied.  Crown prosecutors decided last December that Robinson, Millington, Const. Bill Bentley and Const. Gerry Rundel wouldn’t face criminal charges, although the inquiry’s final report could include findings of misconduct.
Mountie had ‘no plan’ when approaching Dziekanski Most experienced RCMP  officer involved in fatal confrontation says he ordered tasering, but concedes he was not ‘current’ on weapon. Cpl. Robinson said he was trained in the use of tasers in 2003, but did not go through refresher training until a month after the incident. He was suspended with pay from that post after an October auto accident INVOLVING DUI.‘I was mistaken,’ Mountie testifies after recanting statement at   
Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robinson, the fourth officer to testify at the hearings, said he doesn’t think he contributed to the tragic outcome.  Robinson testified  that he gave the order to shock Dziekanski with a Taser, and repeated the command as many as two more times.  A bystander’s video played numerous times at the inquiry shows Dziekanski was on the floor for the second stun, and Robinson acknowledged Dziekanski had either already collapsed or was on his way down by the end of the first shock.  Still, he maintained that he gave the command when Dziekanski was still standing.  On the video, one of the officers can be heard shouting, “Hit him again! Hit him again!” after the second stun, long after Dziekanski had fallen. The other officers have said that voice belongs to Robinson.  Robinson said he didn’t remember giving a third command, but didn’t dispute that it was him.  “I don’t rule that out, it was me a third possible time,” he said.  Robinson was moved to the RCMP’s Olympic Integrated Security Unit, which is preparing security for the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver, but was suspended with pay shortly after he was arrested last October in connection with a fatal collision.  A 21-year-old motorcyclist was killed when he was struck by a Jeep in suburban Delta, south of Vancouver.  In a news release dated Oct. 28, 2008, Delta police said they were recommending the off-duty officer – subsequently identified as Robinson – be charged with impaired driving causing death and driving with a blood alcohol level over the legal limit, but the Crown has not announced any decision on charges
VANCOUVER, B.C. – The Mountie who stunned Robert Dziekanski with a Taser panicked and later tried to cover up his mistakes by making inaccurate statements about the event, the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother suggested. His initial accounts of what happened contained numerous inaccuracies, several of which suggested Dziekanski was more aggressive than what’s shown on a bystander’s video. There were errors in notes Millington made that night, statements to investigators in the days that followed and at least two internal reports he filed about the incident. He said at the time that Dziekanski was yelling when police approached and was waving a stapler “wildly” just before the first stun of the Taser. He also said in the statements and notes that Dziekanski was still standing after three jolts of the 50,000-volt weapon and continued to walk towards the officers. Millington said on numerous occasions that the four officers had to wrestle Dziekanski to the ground. But he conceded at the inquiry that those parts of his statements were incorrect. Dziekanski’s mother, Zofia Cisowski, said she doesn’t believe what the officers have said. “They want to save themselves, they want to cover,” Cisowski said outside the inquiry.  “I don’t believe these people.”  and neither do I.    IT ALL SHOWS HOW FLAWED the RCMP internal reviews really are too..
The Crown and RCMP announced in December that the four officers will not face criminal charges, but changes in their accounts of the events of that night have raised questions about whether the RCMP might reopen its investigation. All three officers who have testified so far said they made errors in their statements. They changed their recollections after viewing a video shot by a bystander. Neil MacKenzie, a spokesperson for the criminal justice branch, said in an interview yesterday that Crown counsel relied on the officers’ statements in determining whether or not to proceed with charges.
Now   as if you all did not know that already that the Local and the national police cannot be respected to do a decent inquiry into the alleged wrong doings of any police officers, cause we can seem all to know that the accused police officers do not hesitate to lie, to cover-up the reality… now self regulation  of the police force, is just useless self masturbation always it seems, thus we need independent  reviews of all police complaints for all of the police forces too in Canada, with real negative consequences on the guilty persons now too and it is  as simple as that
RCMP taser inquiry hears cover-up allegation CTV British Columbia –  You might think their sole priority is public safety — but there was something else on the minds of security staff at the Vancouver International Airport in the early morning hours of October 14th 2007.
Inquiry hears differing accounts of Dziekanski’s death Calgary Herald
Taser death followed the rules Toronto Star – – News1130 – KBS Radio
all 48 news articles »
So 4 RCMP officers lyingly had now said that they killed the new Polish immigrant Dziekanski  in self defense cause he was attacking them with a stapler.. for sure they all need now to be tried for Manslaughter and jailed.
Why 4 RCMP officers needed any weapons to even deal with one single man is really unbelieveable to start of with too..   the RCMP has zero credibility. 
Anyone who follows these hearings can clearly see how contradictory many of the RCMP testimonies now are to the reality too.. it is mainly the RCMP who spin or try to believe their own fabrications of reality..
RCMP Const. Bill Bentley said Dziekanski was jolted by a police Taser gun after the Polish immigrant grabbed a stapler. But Bentley’s original version of events was different. “Subject grabbed stapler and came at [officers] screaming,” read his original notes, written within days of the Oct. 14, 2007 incident. That’s not true, Bentley admitted today. A widely shown video of the incident shows Dziekanski made no such move. Bentley said his memory was refreshed by watching the video and getting a good night’s sleep. But Commission counsel Patrick McGowan wondered how much the video changed his recollection. “If you didn’t have video of this matter, would you be here today saying the subject grabbed a stapler and came at the [officers] screaming?” McGowan asked. “I don’t know,” Bentley replied.   
RCMP’s Taser short-circuit The Kingston Whig-Standard –  The optics have been bad for the RCMP at the judicial inquiry looking into the posttasering death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski. Canadians are concerned that these weapons are being used less and less discriminately – over-used, in fact – and that the Dziekanski death is proof.
Taser inquiry hears cover-up allegation CTV British Columbia
BC airport security supervisor says man hit with Taser resembled The Canadian Press
Toronto Star – Toronto Sun – Times Colonist – Calgary Herald 

Officer fears Poland could pursue charges, inquiry told    


Someone should tell RCMP Const. Kwesi Millington that there’s a video on YouTube showing him delivering five Taser jolts to a Polish immigrant who was doing nothing to threaten officers or the public. Millington made his first appearance yesterday at an inquiry into the death of Robert Dziekanski. And his version of events leading up to the death of Dziekanski is so out of whack with the video we’ve all seen, it’s as if the guy has no idea there’s a video out there that exposes the whole thing. Millington claims Dziekanski “was approaching” police officers with a stapler in his hand just before he was shot. The video shows nothing of the kind. It shows Dziekanski raising his arms in the air and walking briefly away from police officers. He then stops and turns towards them. And then he gets zapped five times.    

The RCMP officer who jolted Robert Dziekanski with a Taser weapon is contradicting a fellow officer in testimony Tuesday at the inquiry into the Polish immigrant’s death. RCMP Const. Kwesi Millington insists he has never discussed the Oct. 14, 2007 incident that left Dziekanski dead, with the three other officers involved.  It contradicts testimony given by RCMP Const. Bill Bentley, who told the Braidwood inquiry last week the group recounted their version of the events during a “critical incident debrief” after the incident. 

“What I do remember is we did have a critical incident debrief where we all told our version of events that transpired that evening,” Bentley testified last week. Not true, Millington said Tuesday when presented with his fellow officer’s testimony. “I don’t remember any of these discussions,” Millington said, agreeing that his opinion contradicts that of Bentley’s testimony.  

Images taken from video footage show Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski falling to the ground after being tasered at the Vancouver airport Oct. 14, 2007. The video shows that Dziekanski did not resist or confront police.   

Lawyer Walter Kosteckyj, who is working for Dziekanski’s mother at the inquiry, is a former RCMP officer. Kosteckyj wonders why no one with the Mounties has stepped forward and said, “This was not our finest hour.” That’s disturbing. Day by day at the inquiry, one thing is made more and more certain: This was not the RCMP’s finest hour. They the RCMP  have had many many bad years now  rather..   

Mounties looking like Keystone Cops  Calgary Herald – By Don Martin, Calgary HeraldFebruary 28, 2009 Police officers have three primary serve-and-protect obligations–investigate threats to civilian safety immediately, use their weapons responsibly and tell the truth faithfully under oath.  

One Mountie recently testified he was prompted into Tasering Dziekanski when the man, who had thrown a chair and spent 10 hours in the airport, brandished an open stapler in a threatening way. Dziekanski died after being Tasered and subdued by the Mounties. Laughter and heckling broke out in the public gallery as RCMP Const. Kwesi Millington, one of four officers called to the airport Oct. 14, 2007, demonstrated how an agitated Dziekanski held the stapler. The inquiry lawyer asked how “four healthy, young officers” who wore body armour and carried guns could have believed an office tool was a threat.   

the Polish government’s lawyer accused a Mountie of lying during his testimony.  Const. Kwesi Millington immediately denied colluding with other officers or lying under oath to absolve his use of a Taser on Dziekanski at Vancouver’s airport in October 2007.  “You and your fellow officers collaborated to fabricate your story in the expectation that it would justify your conduct to your superiors, do you deny that?” said Rosenbloom, the lawyer for Dziekanski’s home country of Poland.  “We never did that,” replied Millington during his third day of testimony.  “I am suggesting that you and your fellow officers intentionally misled (homicide) investigators and you continue to lie under oath at this commission, do you deny that?” said Rosenbloom.

Millington’s recollection of the events based on his memory, his hand written notes and the reports he wrote proved to be embarrassingly at odds with the Pritchard video.  Millington noted he first fired the Taser because Dziekanski picked up a stapler and began “swinging it wildly” and then moved aggressively towards the officers. Yet on examination by commission counsel Art Vertlieb, Millington failed to find any evidence of the wild swinging on the video and admitted he was in “error.”  He said he fired a second time because Dziekanski was “still standing” and had to be “wrestled to the ground” by the other officers present. Another error. The video shows the first shot caused Dziekanski to stumble, fall and writhe on the ground screaming in pain. Why the third shot? He was, said Millington, still fighting and struggling with the other officers trying to handcuff him. Error again. To that point no officer had even touched the writhing screaming Dziekanski.

The Vancouver Sun    RCMP’s reputation takes a beating at Braidwood inquiry   March 5, 2009     You’ll remember that shortly after Robert Dziekanski was Tasered and died in Vancouver International Airport, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said it would not be returning a videotape of the incident to its rightful owner for one or two years, because it might taint witness testimony. Well, the tape has certainly had a negative effect, but what it has tainted is the reputation of the RCMP. And it, along with other evidence from the Braidwood inquiry into Dziekanski’s death, reveals that the RCMP and police forces across the country have a lot of work to do to regain the public’s trust. In fact, the tape reveals what could be construed as a practice of using Tasers first and asking questions later, and worse, it reveals that the attending officers couldn’t even trust the notes they made shortly after the incident. This week, Const. Kwesi Millington, the officer who fired the Taser, testified before the inquiry, stating that he feared for the officers’ safety after Dziekanski picked up a stapler. His comments prompted snickers from spectators who watched the tape, and who obviously questioned how four officers, clad in Kevlar vests, carrying guns and pepper spray and trained in self-defence, could fear a lone man with a stapler. Clearly, if the officers’ actions were in keeping with RCMP policy at the time, then the policy permitted the Tasering of suspects upon even the slightest provocation. Worse, Millington Tasered Dziekanski a total of five times, even after Dziekanski had fallen to the ground and after the officers had applied pressure to his back. Now it’s awfully hard to understand how the officers could still have been frightened of Dziekanski, but that’s still not the worst of it. No, the worst thing is that if the videotape didn’t exist, one would have to rely on Millington’s notes about the incident, notes that Millington was forced to repeatedly admit were wrong. In fact, confronted by videotape evidence about the number of times Dziekanski was Tasered, Millington had to confess that one would get a “distorted view” of the incident by reading his notes. This is a devastating admission because, in most cases of Tasering, the officer’s testimony is all we have to rely on. And police forces have repeatedly defended their use of Tasers, and have even taken shots at critics — witness the recent press conference held by the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and the Canadian Police Association, where representatives questioned the fitness of those who criticize Taser use. Given that the police must have the trust and respect of the public if they are to function adequately, this is an attitude that must change, particularly in light of the evidence from the Braidwood inquiry. That means that police forces across the country must be open to reconsidering their Taser policies in the face of honest concern — the RCMP’s recent modest changes to its policy are good first steps, but only first steps — and must be willing to admit that they made mistakes. And not just when they’re called before a commission of inquiry.

RCMP management clearly lied, also to blame.. Mounties read through 1,000 internal e-mails preparing for inquiry
“RCMP’s communication strategy ultimately failed. The force did not publicly correct inaccuracies or defend its role in the case, fearing that information might alter witnesses’ recollection of events. Police also believed, the report said, that public opinion would switch to supporting the RCMP after all the facts were known. We found neither argument valid,” the report said. “For deeply rooted systemic reasons and long-held views regarding the importance of due process, the RCMP’s management of issues and communications were lacking and caused many of the problems the organization was trying to avoid.”We therefore recommend that clear, precise guidelines about what can be released, and at what point in the investigation, be developed, and that these guidelines be based on a liberal view of releasing information.”
“The “Wayne” to whom Chief Supt. Bent presumably is referring in the e-mail is Supt. Wayne Rideout, the head of the integrated homicide investigation team into Mr. Dziekanski’s death who admitted under oath at the commission that he had lied to public as to the circumstances of the incident. Supt. Rideout publicly claimed that Mr. Dzienkanski had been Tasered twice, when in fact the man had been hit with the stun gun at least five times. He also claimed the officers had to wrestle the man to the ground because the first shot had no discernible effect, when in fact video evidence is clear that the distraught would-be immigrant from Poland fell quickly after he was first zapped.  The absolutely sickening thing about this entire episode is that were it not for a bystander with a camera phone who had the presence of mind to videotape the conduct of the four officers, their lies, evasions and concocted story might have worked to let Mr. Dziekanski’s death be explained away.  Commission counsel Art Vertlieb is absolutely justified when he observed Friday that this delayed disclosure raises questions about whether the RCMP has actually shared everything in its files that Mr. Braidwood needs to do the job.”


It would be easy to form the impression that the four Richmond RCMP officers involved were the only ones to blame for the tragedy at Vancouver International Airport on Oct. 14, 2007.But as the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother has astutely observed, that’s only because the RCMP’s spectacularly bad PR has stolen the spotlight. RCMP brass and the federal government could have pre-empted a damning report from Thomas Braidwood by stepping up with a genuine mea culpa and an announcement that a major overhaul of the RCMP and CBSA was already in the works. That hasn’t happened. Now, given how much has been exposed in this inquiry, it is hard to believe a few people won’t be held to account.

that includes the and justice ministers, solicitor generals at the federal and provincial levels now too and who is going to hold them all accountable? not the bad PM for sure.


Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management ,  supervision  human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life,  in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too,  and elsewhere, even on the net,  for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie  , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self  regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well.
It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever.


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