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August 9, 2008

Libel on the net

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Google will only remove defamatory material from Blogger when “the material has been found to be defamatory by a court, as evidenced by a court order,” according to Blogger’s terms of service.
 
and some  bloggers have been now denied any further access to  the net  to make any posts by the courts too..

 
 
It is still up to the courts or the Human Rights commissions  firstly to confirm, to define what is actually libelous, slanderous, a hate email message..  and someone’s else’s  statement and opinions  on the subject does not count. But to be on the safe side if you want to avoid court costs, ligation, if you are unsure if what you write is libel, slanderous, prosecutable better not post it on the net. Wrongfully accusing someone of posting a hate message or being a racists clearly can  be challenged in courts as a hate message itself and prosecutable.
 
 
Bashing Pentecostals Christians, evangelists,  on the net even by even the  fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/
 
It even seems too many professing, evangelical,  Christians still think they can  lie about, slander, abuse others, other Christians on the net too, and in Churches now too,  and they think can get away with it too, because the net is supposedly unregulated and churches..  and because of   their own right of free speech.
 
Free speech is a right you still have to use wisely, But one can be sued for libel on the net still in Canada according to the Queen’s courts, and this should applied now in Australia, Great Brian and other commonwealth countries now too. In Canada the RCMP certainly admits to monitoring the net.. While the Internet is in Canada unregulated by the government , the Police  courts still do regulate internet abuse. Of specific interest was the  continual ongoing consistency of deformation of character, personal attacks,  Libel, slander, bullying, the invasion of privacy too.
 
CP    VANCOUVER – A B.C. Supreme Court judge has awarded an Australian man  $180,000 for being the brunt of an Internet tirade conducted by a Nanaimo,  B.C., man.  The case involved the thorny question of how to crack down on  the lawlessness of online libel and slander.  Justice Douglas Halfyard  concluded defamatory statements along with the worldwide exposure of Robert  Griffin’s identity had serious and adverse effects on Griffin’s life and  mental health.  In his judgment, Halfyard found Patrick Sullivan responsible  for publishing four years of false and defamatory statements accusing “that  the plaintiff is a stalker, abuser, harasser, criminal, evil, liar, killer,  sexual predator, pervert, pedophile, coward, manipulator and hate monger who  threatens others with death and violence … and deserves to be jailed and  killed.”  Griffin’s lawyer Dan Burnett said most people don’t have the money  or stamina to fight against those kind of relentless Internet accusations.  “He felt it had to stop and the only way it was going to stop was to do what  he did which was commence the action and seek damages and seek an injunction  and essentially stand up to the bully.”  Burnett said the court award and  subsequent injunction stopping Sullivan from writing anything more about his  client is a warning to other Internet users.  “It illustrates that there is  a line, that when crossed, puts you into court and is a breach of the law.”  The whole situation started with postings on the Internet suicide website  ASH, in which participants discuss suicide and depression.  Griffin became  embroiled in a vicious dispute with several of the members of ASH, including  Sullivan.  The situation escalated when Sullivan published personal  information, such as Griffin’s age, his real name and the fact he lived in  Sydney, Australia. Griffin had been using the name Magnus Pym.  “I have  found that the defendant was, in many instances, indifferent to the truth of  the statements he was making,” Halfyard wrote of Sullivan.  “That is malice  and that is an aggravating factor.”  Included in the $180,000 award is  $50,000 for aggravated damages because Halfyard said the facts “demonstrate  that the defendant was motivated by an unjustifiable intention to injure the  plaintiff.”  Griffin has also been awarded $25,000 for breach of his privacy   and almost $5,000 for expenses which included psychological treatment and  counselling, and payment for interpreting services required to investigate postings on the Internet in Russia.  Sullivan, who acted as his own lawyer,  claimed some of the accusations were true, he raised the defence of fair  comment and also denied making some of the statements.  Sullivan could not  be reached for comment.  Halfyard didn’t agree with the arguments.  “The  defendant failed to prove that any of his many other defamatory statements  about the plaintiff were true. The defence of justification fails.”  Burnett  said the sweeping injunction is especially significant because it forces  Sullivan to stop referring in any way to Griffin and to remove all of his  ranting from the Internet.  “That’s in an Internet world where we think of  things going up and being irretrievable. If you’re the person putting it up  and you have the means to take it down the court might order you to do  that.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation

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Canada’s  Supreme Court throws out libel case against outspoken B.C. talk show host   VANCOUVER — The country’s top court has absolved former Vancouver radio personality Rafe Mair of defamation for a commentary.   The Supreme Court of Canada decision in the defamation suit also broadened a key defence often used by journalists to ward off libel actions. In a 9-0 judgment Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Mair was engaging in fair comment in the 1999 radio editorial that was critical of Kari Simpson, a high-profile player in a campaign opposing the use of teaching materials about gay lifestyles in local schools. In the course of the editorial, the controversial former radio commentator made references to the Klan, Hitler and skinheads, although he claimed he wasn’t saying that Simpson actually advocated violence against gays. The judge went on, however, to say that Mair wasn’t liable for damages because he held an honest belief in the views he expressed – one of the traditional elements in the legal defence long known as fair comment. The Supreme Court, in Friday’s judgment   went on to rewrite the legal test for such a defence.  There was no proof that Mair’s dominant motive was personal malice,   and thus “his expression of opinion, however, exaggerated, was protected by the law. “We live in a free country where people have as much right to express outrageous and ridiculous opinions as moderate ones.” A key component of the fair comment defence has long been that the person making the comment must sincerely believe in it. In the course of the ruling, however, the high court modified that test. Commentary must still have a factual basis, be made without malice and be in the public interest, said Binnie. But the test of honest belief is not whether the specific person holding the opinion believed it. The yardstick is whether any person might honestly hold the view based on the facts at issue. Binnie acknowledged that is “not a high threshold” for any defendant to met. But neither is it appropriate to rule out “a piece of devil’s advocacy” in any debate on a matter of public importance.  Mair, who no longer works at the station, said he’s glad they took the case to the high court. “This could be a enormous benefit to the journalism industry and therefore, to the people that read and watch it,” Mair said in Vancouver. http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jdP5CRF6hm0H_fuYFL_m6d_jI7GQ
 
Mind you the same radio station did not like all the bad publicity they got and the radio personality next lost his job anyway.

Anyway all Christians are governed by higher laws even that of showing  love to others, meekness too, humility and purity too… not just whether they can be sued for libel, slander..

“Our US Constitution is one of our greatest assets in the fight against terrorism. A free-flowing marketplace of ideas, protected by the First Amendment, enables the ideals of democracy to defeat the totalitarian vision of al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.  That free marketplace faces a threat. Individuals with alleged connections to terrorist activity are filing libel suits and winning judgments in foreign courts against American researchers who publish on these matters. These suits intimidate and even silence writers and publishers. Under American law, a libel plaintiff must prove that defamatory material is false. In England, the burden is reversed. Disputed statements are presumed to be false unless proven otherwise. And the loser in the case must pay the winner’s legal fees. Consequently, English courts have become a popular destination for libel suits against American authors”   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121599561708449643.html

Too many people  still do believe in their own sole right of free speech still but they  do next try to deny these same right of others by even threatening to sue them for libel, slander.. sound Familiar Mr Stephen Harper PM of Canada? or Bell Sympatico? or the Toronto Airport Fellowship Church pastors? Benny Hynn? etc.,’

The pastors of the Toronto airport fellowship Church and many other pastors, Christians groups on the net  had asked me in writing not to write to them, and what they can preach about the sins of others but I can’t do that to them? What hypocrisy on their parts now still too.  Even in the churches, evangelical pastoral sections there are much too many really bad unacceptable apples still out there.
 
 Too often now our personal rights in this country are now slowly being forcibly demanded to besidetracked to accommodate others wishes by control freaks too …
 
Imagine what Canada would be like if any of the church pastors, government forcibly told the citizens, the columnists, editors, commentators what they could and could not publish. Imagine if we had something like a Ministry of Truth, a Ministry of the Media, a Ministry of Thought. If that doesn’t scare you then you rightfully  scare me.
 
These bullying groups appear to be using any angle within the law, courts,  or their influence to try and become our ’superiors’ in some way.
  
It’s about time that truths that are unpalatable to certain sections of our society be allowed to be expressed. We live in a free country, with the right to freedom of expression and speech. Telling the facts does not constitute a ‘hate’ crime now as well. Only those people who want to curtail or own freedoms while they use theirs  would call this a hate crime. If these various groups or people cannot tolerate anyone’s free speech, or debate, why in the world are they living in the west?  If you don’t like the freedoms that are enjoyed by ALL citizens here, then go live in a country where theirs and your freedom  now is denied.  Without freedom of speech, and the freedom of the press we can no longer claim to be a democratic country. No one has the right to stifle the free dispensing of valuable information. Not even Evangelical pastors.  We must all be be vigilant against any attempts of demonic enslavement of us and the  false hindrances of our own rights.  “Those that try to silence honest, open, and free speech are a danger to this country. I hold that to be true. “
                 
Now in Canada even  I am very used to people the much too many Bullies who  try to falsely dominate you, and these bullies go overboard in their reactions when you expose the truth about them and others  especially when their pet idols, or careers are threatened.  Me I am still rightfully loudly actively resistant  to all of the  abusers, bullies, liars, even to the Church, GOVERNMENTAL, CORPORATE, POLICE  oppressions still too. Even those persons who falsely try to send lawyers or the police to my home to harass me, to try to intimidate me, to shut me up. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well,  and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the Internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT… the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.

Let’s face it in life there is a positive  and a negative personal management style
 
just as there  are good and bad persons, leaches included.. such as bad lawyers, bad cops, bad pastors, bad politicians too..
 

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/ 

Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the unrepentant  guilty persons serves everyone’s best interest
 
We ALSO do  still need to understand, define what abuse and what hate is, and an abuse is to deny a person’s legal, human rights, and hate is the clear opposite of love, meaning an unloving act.. Hate and  Verbal abuse unrestrained often next do lead to physical abuse in reality too.  And both hate and verbal, physical abuses are  all unacceptable at all times too no matter who you are or who you think you are too. .
 
but honestly critiquing  NOW certain individuals for their own unacceptable bad act is not always HATE. .
 
It is a false statement that if one makes any negative statement about Jews, Muslims, Arabs, white people, natives , etc., that one is  a racist or promoting hatred.. one can be  merely exercising one’s appropriate right of free speech, thought..
 
Now I had witnessed a Person committing immoral, illegal acts many times and when I rightfully reported it next to to the proper authorities, the clearly  guilty  person next  had distorted the truths and lying had said I was promoting hatred towards him and his family, which clearly now was not so. I was a witness of the immoral acts still, unacceptable wrong doings. 
 
Also I do not believe that everyone sets out to be a deliberate racist, it seems to be often merely a poorly thought out stupid mistake for 70 percent of the persons who do it, and many people once they realize what they have done next do even admit their errors and stop it, unfortunately there are the remaining few hate mongers who still do get carried away with their hatred, sins, who need to be incarcerated for their crimes so they can stop and learn not to do it..
 
(Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Cops too  seem to have it too easy in Canada, they do what they want, they abuse citizens and tend to get away with it too. Too many COPS, persons distort  the LAW. it’s meaning still too. 
 
“about the liars, thieves, ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “
 
THERE IS A  VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL  POLICE..
 
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET.
 
First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and  detail  proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others.
 
Next God also is now fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too..
 
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
 
WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER.
 
APPROPRIATE  PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION OF THE GUILTY SERVES EVERYONE’S BEST INTEREST
  
FOR A GOOD NAME IS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN ANY AMOUNT OF SILVER OR GOLD AND A TARNISHED ONE IS WORTHLESS.

 

Now too often I myself also do not agree with the comments,  free speech, but I merely  tend to disregard it it next..

but what I do rightfully oppose still any and all free speech  especially on the so called Christian Churches Internet sites, that is   lying, slanderous, insulting, abusive, bullying, bashing.. such as the false bash of Pentecostals by the Brethren, Baptists, Reformed, etc., haters. Or the supposedly evangelical Baptist pastor who had said in the pulpit that he could not understand what Hitler did that was so bad, I helped to fire him , he now sells life insurance instead.. http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holo.html

( I heard a local Muslim recently say the same thing to me, he could not uderstand what Hiltler did that  was so bad?  and so I asked him what he thought next if I will posted a cartoon on the net with the picture of his so called prophet saying the same thing.. he next quickly got red and objected to it..)

and even here now we all do still have 2 free speech alternatives.. we can post our rebuttal, objections on their Internet site or ours..

or next even take the matter  further to the news media, or  before the provincial Human Right Commissions, and others too..

for not all justice is handled in the courts of Law or by a lawsuit.

Do see also

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/       
 

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 In Canada the RCMP certainly admits to monitoring the net.. MICROSOFT HAS HELPED THEM IN THIS MATTER TOO.   THEY DO ALSO NOTE WHAT YOU WRITE ABOUT THE RCMP FIRSTLY??? BUT THEY HAVE A HARD TIME CATCH THE BAD RCMP OFFICERS FIRSTLY STILL AND WHY IS THAT?..  yes  the RCMP who is so ready to monitor others cannot monitor itself properly..

 In my view they the RCMP are still the  bad apple, a very  poor watchdog, and clearly discriminatory, racists LIKELY  too, mostly white AND  English speaking BAD COPS,  and  the bad RCMP, SEEM even too often guilty of privacy invasion now too itself,  for they tends to monitor, to investigate anyone in Canada too, me too,  at their political master’s requests, and along with the local major police services, post office now too, has hundreds of thousands of files on even the innocent citizens in Canada..   

Allowing the police who falsely too generally are still accountable to no one  to conduct internet surveillance without oversight is the beginning of a police state controlled by the party in power and we should have none of it. What we firstly do  need to set up an independent citizen based police review boards to handle all of the police complaints, honestly and fairly Canada wide now too. The Police are far from being angels as we all can know, the RCMP included. https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/canadas-bad-police-officers/
 
Imagine this the new email programs inluding windows live and google mail  are now all designed to keep all youir emails on an exterior server for 30 days so the cops can read and access them at any time. The cops reading your email and seeing what you do on the net next as well.. a clear police state.
https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/allowing-the-cops-to-use-the-internet-to-spy-on-anyone-makes-an-unacceptable-police-state/

Here in Canada I had attended some political meetings   at the request of a neighbor  of mine, a lawyer,  who worked for city hall, shortly after that the same neighbor had told me that the local police had next complied a report on me at the request of the mayor, for apparently it was common practice for the mayor to use the police services to evaluate all of his possible political opponents. No wonder the main jail was across from the mayor’s office too. Next the same lawyer told me that the provincial government also had a RCMP report on me as well done by police..  and apparently I was classified as a religious terrorist because I also do talk about Jesus.  .. there really is no no such thing as privacy in Canada.. I understand that the Post office office has a database on the citizens of Canada in PEI as well.

Ont. privacy commissioner probing practice of background checks on  CBC.ca –  Ontario’s privacy commissioner is probing whether privacy rights were violated when police launched secret background checks on jurors.

Ont. privacy commissioner to probe jury-selection process Ottawa Citizen

  Privacy Commissioner Probes Secret Jury Checks 580 CFRA Radio

 National Post – The Canadian Press – Canada NewsWire (press release)

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MPs call for expanded privacy law The Canadian Press – ‎7 OTTAWA — A House of Commons committee says the federal privacy law should be expanded to cover new technologies such as live surveillance-camera feeds and

MPs call for expanded privacy law Edmonton Sun
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US Court Weighs E-mail Privacy, Again InformationWeek –  Warshak argues that a court order secretly directing his ISP to preserve his e-mail violates federal privacy laws and his expectation of privacy.

Civil Liberties Groups File Brief for E-Mail Privacy IT Business Edge
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Privacy boss willing to probe lost cop intelCanoe.ca -SUN MEDIA Alberta’s privacy commissioner is willing to look into a case where internal documents from Calgary police ended up in the hands

Leaked Calgary police document causes worries all around Calgary Herald

Calgary police file leaked to alleged criminals Calgary Herald

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Privacy laws put to test by technology National Post –  The unusual case raises questions about what constitutes a “reasonable expectation” of privacy in a world where digital recorders and handheld wireless

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Privacy May Be a Victim in Cyberdefense Plan New York Times –  By THOM SHANKER And DAVID E. SANGER WASHINGTON — A plan to create a new Pentagon cybercommand is raising significant privacy and diplomatic concerns,

mocoNews – AT&T Launches New Privacy Policy?Same As Old, But Clearer  Washington Post –  AT&T (NYSE: T) has issued a new privacy policy intended to be clearer and more explicit about the information the company collects and what it does with it.

Coming back to the bad RCMP now 

No  matter how that dirty RCMP weasel spins the facts, tries to weasel out of the truth, the RCMP was clearly wrong on many counts in the Taser death of a polish immigrant at the Vancouver airport.. they were uncompassionate, inconsiderate, used more restraining force than was necessary, and they next also clearly lied to cover-up their own immoral acts, and many times as well, They slander a good man in the process as well.. and so none of this was, is acceptable or forgivable.. none  of it.  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/the-mickey-mouse-rcmp-in-canada

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WANT TO SAVE SOME TAXPAYER’S MONEY? TAKE A LOOK AT THE RCMP.  REALLY HOW MUCH SKILL, EDUCATION DOES AN RCMP OFFICER NOW HAVE WHO GIVES OUT PARKING TICKETS AT THE VANCOUVER OR THE OTHER AIRPORTS? IT CLEARLY SEEMS GIVING OUT PARKING TICKETS IS AN EXPENSIVE, WASTEFUL  USE OF THE RCMP FIRSTLY NOW TOO… IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO ANY OF YOU THAT THE RCMP ARE COSTLY, INEFFECTIVE, TROUBLESOME, MISMANAGED AND OVER PAID, FALSELY EVEN WANTING MORE AND MORE MONEY.. 

AND it seems they are not effective in catching the real crimimmials, and they are a really costly, EXPENSIVE bunch of guys now too, WHO OFTEN DO HAVE USE THE NEWS MEDIA, PUBLIC  RELATIONSHIP TO TRY TO SELL THEIR SUPPOSED RESULTS TO US ALL BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEARLY OBVIOUS TO US ALL OTHERWISE..

Police love to lie and say that all accidents are mostly speed related, to justify their fat cow cash grabs, especially in Alberta and in Ontario now too.. they lump all of their homemade statistics as the accidents, deaths realted all to speeding.. not in reality to drunk driver, bad drivers, road rage, poor roads, bad snow cleaing..

THE ALBERTA CANMORE RCMP  JUSTIFIES COLLECTING SUPPOSEDLY MILLIONS of  DOLLARS in MONEY ON SPEEDING TICKETS  IN BANFF TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A FEW DEERS TOO IT SEEMS. What about the drunk drivers, cops included firstly? 

“Every year, drunk driving leaves a terrible trail of death, injury, heartbreak and destruction. In terms of the deaths and serious injuries resulting in hospitalization, drunk driving is clearly the crime which causes the most significant loss to the country.”Supreme Court of Canada Justice Peter Cory, 1995 
 
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In reality the too often self serving, money hungry, promotional and empire oriented police, and their superiors, bad justice ministers, bad politicians  really do not care about the citizens good welfare but only their own

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/a-blatant-tax-on-the-motorist-speed-cameras/ 

Most reasonable and reasoning people have seen the folly of speed cameras for decades now too.    
 

They the RCMP seem to be afraid of the real bad guys to go after them and it appears that the the RCMP that is so busy trying to catch the innocent citizen that it has NO  MONEY,  time or competency to catch the BIG major criminals, the major drug pushers, the major hackers, major counterfeiters, murderers, rapists, bank robbers, commercial crimminals too,  or even allof the drunk drivers,  and so a special police force now had to be made in Alberta  to go even after the drunk drivers, meanwhile the bad RCMP officers like many other cops themselves likely abuse the laws too, all  undeniable as well. The pretentious, inadequate, incompetent Mickey Mouse RCMP should have been disbanded a long time ago and replaced with a decent police force as I have often rightfully requested this now too.

PLEASE DON’T GET ME WRONG, THE RCMP  HAVE NOT EARNED MY RESPECT, AND THEY NOW DO NOT GET IT AUTOMATICALLY ,  FOR  EVERY TIME I CALLED THEM TO BE OF SERVICE THEY DID NOTHING GOOD FOR ME THE LAST FEW DECADES TOO. THEY LIED , MISSPELLED MY NAME TOO. They had even threatened to shut me up for good if I myself  did not shut up in Canmore, Alberta now too.

I REALLY DO HAVE NO USE FOR THEM.  ALL THEY SEEM TO BE GOOD FOR IS GIVING OUT REVENUE GENERATING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TICKETS or killing a person  with a Taser? http://inkslwc.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/royal-canadian-mounted-police-taser-man-in-vancouver-resulting-in-his-death/

Did any RCMP officer yet get arrested for that in Vancouver to date? Me too I couldn’t stop shaking my head as I read the latest in Canadian cops and their use of tasers. So not only are we the country that tasers non-English speaking tourists to death in airports, apparently we also taser 17 year old boys to death, and use repetitive taser shots to subdue an 82 year old man who is in hospital.. we pay big money and what we do hire mickey mouse cops who too often are incompetent, pretentious, no good.. abusive too?

 Useless Royal Canadian Mounted Police another big expensive Joke.. clearly mismanaged often too..

CP VANCOUVER – While RCMP brass and its media relations division scrambled to keep from being “crucified” over Taser use and the death of a man at Vancouver’s airport, they also had to deal with an increasing barrage of complaints accusing officers of being everything from clowns to killers.  Email documents, released to The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act, showed great concern from Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day’s office down to the RCMP’s British Columbia media relations office over the public’s perception about the death of Robert Dziekanski.  “I am going to get some advice, but I think I might wade in here to set some of the record straight with the media,” RCMP Chief Supt. Dale McGowan wrote in an email to the Cmdr. Peter German.  “We are being crucified on why the Taser usage and our members’ actions at the preliminary stages.”  German later replied that he had “just watched the Taser video on BBC TV in Australia!”  Weeks before, RCMP media spokesman Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre wrote to management that Cpl. Dale Carr – the media spokesman for the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team – had concluded there was a possibility of an “international incident” because of Dziekanski’s death.  In one email days after the death, Day’s office issues an “urgent” request to RCMP to see the latest media lines Mounties have sent out on the Taser incident.  Lemaitre outlined suggestions for what the RCMP should tell the media, including that the death was being reviewed on several levels and that the investigation was continuing.  On October 14, 2007 Dziekanski spent hours in the international arrivals area at the Vancouver airport before he was confronted by four RMCP officers.  A bystander’s video of the confrontation shows the officers attempting a brief conversation with the confused and sweating Polish man before Dziekanski was jolted twice with a Taser.  He died minutes after the officers pinned him to the ground.  Sgt. Tim Shields – who has just taken over the communications section at E Division in Vancouver – said in an interview last week that the entire issue has hurt the Mounties’ public image.  “Yes, of course it has,” he said.  “And we hope that when more of the facts are made public … it will present a clearer picture of truly what happened.”  The eyewitness video was seized by officers at the scene for evidence, and the owner later threatened legal action to get it back, saying he wanted to release what he recorded to the media.  In the hours after the death, Lemaitre told the media that officers at the scene attempted to calm the man, but they felt threatened.  When the eyewitness video was finally released, it showed police using the Taser less than half-a-minute after first confronting the man.  After the tape was aired around the world, the RCMP were inundated with angry emails.  “Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre should be fired for purposely misrepresenting the facts and suppressing the video on a false premise,” wrote one person who’s name was removed from the documents.  “It appears you have been caught in an outright lie,” wrote another, whose name was also stripped from the email. The email had a subject line reading “state-sanctioned murder.”  Lemaitre told one correspondent he had to work with the information that he was given by the investigation team, and he suggested that if he had it to do over again, he would have said nothing.  “In the world of communications, police have often been criticized for not giving details and/or information regarding an incident resulting in allegations that we are hiding something,” Lemaitre wrote.  He told the complainant several investigations will reveal why officers did what they did.  “As for myself, as a spokesperson, in the future, I will consider saying that we have no comment, there’s an ongoing investigation, and weather the storm of media criticism that we are not forthcoming.”  Despite Lemaitre’s comment, Shields said police haven’t changed the way they deal with the media.  “We have to ensure that we have an open relationship with the media because we rely on the media to get the message out to the public,” he said.  Another member of the public wrote asking police “So how are you going to lie your way out of this one?” and made reference to the Mahar Arar where RCMP handed over inaccurate information about the Canadian man to U.S. authorities.  “You clowns are nothing but a sad, expensive joke,” the writer ended.  Later correspondence grew increasing hostile and is riddled with foul language. Some are even threatening.  “When will charges of manslaughter be brought against the officers?” asks a member of the public.  “Seeing as there will be no proper action taken against the criminals, I should hope a similar fate befalls their families.”  Carr and Lemaitre responded to several of the writers.  It is vitriol Shields said he’s never seen before from the public.  “After the millions of good things that we have done, it was very disheartening to see that level of backlash and anger from the public.”  Not all the emails were negative.  Chris Newel of the Clearwater RCMP wrote to Lemaitre suggesting police put out a news release indicating how many times a Taser was used successfully.  “I see on the news eight people have died in five years – that’s about 1.5 a year. How many would have died if we didn’t have the Taser?” Newel wondered.  “Of those eight, how many had pre-existing conditions that likely contributed, if not were the cause, of death?”  “Thanks for that,” Lemaitre replied.  “Stand by for the autopsy results! We might be in for a surprise, like Tasers didn’t kill this guy, pre-existing medical conditions and or drugs in the system, wait and see.”  No drugs or alcohol were found in Dziekanski’s body, but the cause of death still hasn’t been released.  A briefing document written in November 2007 for RCMP Commissioner William Elliott said it was the B.C.’s Coroner’s Office that left police in an embarrassing position after RCMP refused to release the bystander’s video before it was used at the coroner’s inquest.  Elliott said the coroner, “in an unprecedented action and in contradiction to his request of the prior week,” sent a letter to the Integrated Homicide Investigative Team saying the coroner’s office instead had no problem with the videotape being released.  “This left no legal basis for the videotape to be held,” Elliott wrote.  The reverberations from Dziekanski’s death and the release of the videotape are still being felt, with most of the investigations ongoing, including a public inquiry which will begin hearing witnesses testify in October about the night Dziekanski died.  The B.C. Crown is looking at a police report into whether charges should be laid against the officers involved.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080817/national/airport_taser_rcmp

Replace the useless RCMP and the useless Security Minister too..  No  matter how that dirty RCMP weasel spins the facts, tries to weasel out of the truth, the RCMP was clearly wrong on many counts in the Taser death of a polish immigrant at the Vancouver airport.. they were uncompassionate, inconsiderate, used more restraining force than was necessary, and they next also clearly lied to cover-up their own immoral acts, and many times as well, They slander a good man in the process as well.. and so none of this was, is acceptable or forgivable.. none  of it.  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/the-mickey-mouse-rcmp-in-canada

  The Green Party of British Columbia said Tuesday the RCMP is not accountable to the public and promised to replace the force in B.C. if the party wins the May 12 election.AND IT REALLY BUGS ME THAT ME POSTING MESSAGES ABOUT POLITICIANS SINS OR THOSE OF COPS GET THE MOST FALSE PROTESTS..  

 
Walter Kosteckyj, the lawyer for Dziekanski’s mother, said the officers’ inaccuracies beg for a second look – and that second look shouldn’t be in the hands of the RCMP themselves. “Whenever there is a police incident, it’s high time we had completely independent oversight. We cannot have police investigating themselves,” Kosteckyj said outside the inquiry. The inquiry is also scheduled to hear from two RCMP spokesmen this week – Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre and Cpl. Dale Carr – who handled the storm of media coverage immediately after Dziekanski’s death. Parts of the RCMP’s initial accounts were called into question when the eye-witness video was made public more than a month later. For example, Lemaitre repeatedly insisted the officers tried to calm Dziekanski down, but the tape shows the man was stunned within seconds of the four Mounties arriving. The sergeant also said the Taser’s internal computer recorded just two jolts – even though the weapon was used five times. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090414/national/taser_inquiry 
   

4 RCMP OFFICERS  TELL THE SAME LIES AND WE ARE TOLD TO BELIEVE THEY ALL MADE THE SAME MISTAKES.. DREAM ON… THESE SUPPOSED  MISTAKES , LIES, WERE ALL CLEARLY MADE TO COVER UP FOR  THE VISIBLY BAD  RCMP OFFICERS

 “The deaths of Ian Bush and Robert Dziekanski are examples of recent failures to provide helpful enforcement services to the people of B.C.,” Green party Leader Jane Sterk said in a news release.

Bush, 22, died in police custody in July 2005 from a gunshot wound to the head after a fight with an officer.

The mill worker was arrested after being found with an open beer outside a hockey game in Houston, B.C.

Dziekanski, 40, died after being hit five times with a Taser by an RCMP officer at the Vancouver International Airport in October 2007.

The details of the Polish immigrant’s death, which was captured on camera by a bystander, are currently being investigated by an inquiry.

“The Green party would end the RCMP E Division contract and replace the RCMP with a new B.C. police service. The B.C. police service would no longer make use of Taser electric weapons, and would be subject to civilian oversight under the auspices of an independent provincial police commissioner,” she added.  

Police ordered to write more tickets  Tue, Nov 22, 05 at 12:08 PM. How stupid can they get.. first look at the police budget.. Do you want to save money? Do lay off 30 percent of the cops.. and save 60 million dollars per year.. if the cops are here just to collect speeding tickets and not to catch the real bad guys than merely do get rid of them.. speeding is not the main factor in accidents firstly.. but impaired, drunk drivers, road rage are.. next lay off all those people at city hall who are used to the “unacceptable culture of corruption and entitlement”. cut in half their expense accounts, and cut off all of the out of town trips too http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=0d58b5a1-2d80-42c7-b5a1-9efdd4e077e2 
  
 Sterk also said the BC provincial government should cancel plans for a new RCMP headquarters. 
  
 
THE COPS, THE RCMP CAN’T CATCH THE BAD GUYS CAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY GETTING REVENUE GENERATING TRAFFIC TICKETS FROM THE CITIZENS STILL? 
  
REGINA – RCMP launched a criminal investigation. Thursday involving the recent Saskatchewan NDP leadership campaign. Insp. Stewart Kingdon wouldn’t say exactly what the Mounties are investigating or provide further details. NDP CEO Deb McDonald said the Mounties requested 1,102 membership forms that were submitted in April by an overzealous volunteer from the Dwain Lingenfelter campaign that were later cancelled by the party. “We immediately said we would absolutely co-operate in any way that we can,” McDonald said. “On Monday we turned over the memberships and today they informed me that they are starting a criminal investigation.” Lingenfelter won the party leadership on Saturday, capturing 55 per cent of the votes cast, compared to 45 per cent of the votes garnered by Saskatoon doctor Ryan Meili.  Former leader Lorne Calvert and Lingenfelter were not available for comment. There are allegations that some of the memberships, which cost a total of just under $10,000, may have been forged.  McDonald said they have asked the RCMP to investigate in a timely manner and called on Saskatchewan voters to wait for the results before drawing any conclusions. “A criminal investigation doesn’t necessarily mean that there will end up being any charges at all,” she said.  Last month a report commissioned by the NDP into the scandal said the unidentified volunteer with Lingenfelter’s campaign team acted alone when he filled out membership forms and signed them for people without their knowledge. “The Lingenfelter campaign did not authorize, direct or condone this activity,” said lawyer Robert Hale, who was asked by the party to look into the kerfuffle. Hale recommended the party establish tougher rules to prevent a similar occurrence. The situation came to light at the end of April when concerns were raised about the validity of memberships sold on two reserves in the Meadow Lake area. Most of the $10 memberships were paid for by Lingenfelter’s campaign. That’s allowed under party rules and has been done when people can’t afford the cost.  But the report says the volunteer used a list of names of band members to fill out the forms. The volunteer didn’t actually talk to people to get their consent to join the NDP.  Lingenfelter’s campaign team submitted the forms to the party in April, but they were rejected later that month when NDP provincial office staff noticed that the signatures on the membership applications appeared to be very similar.  At the time Lingenfelter brushed aside suggestions that there was an attempt to deceive anyone. The party said it considered the matter closed and saw no need to turn the findings over to authorities.

>>….. Well recently in Manitoba the NDP scam was finally revealed but RCMP refuse to do anything, Nova Scotia same thing, at least in Sask the RCMP are doing something which is almost shocking. When a politician admits to any type of illegal scheme the RCMP should be in there like flies on sh@t, not whining its not their job, This is proof it is their job, but hey its Canada the public don’t seem to count for sh@t

Bad Liberals, bad Conservatives, bad NDP, Bad BQ, bad RCMP, bad anyone still do need to be prosecuted in reality.. for they basically are not good for anyone.

RCMP launched a criminal investigation and who  has  launched a criminal investigation against the bad cops, bad RCMP firstly?

There in reality is the main one important step that all consumers can take to protect themselves from any unscrupulous persons and that is enforced, exemplary public exposure and prosecution of the supposedly guilty persons by a recognized judicial public body, and so now how many such bad persons now have really been exposed, prosecuted in the last few years in reality too by all, the responsible Ministers as well? None? and why not? Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves very ones best interest… too often still missing in the civil and public services, governments, PROFESSIONAL BODIES, EVEN IN THE RCMP, police forces, churches, as well it seems too. “about the ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “ THERE IS A VERY BASIC COMMON MISCONCEPTION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY PERCEIVED EVEN INJUSTICES, ABUSES, ANYWHERE, IN THE CHURCH AS WELL, BESIDES IMMEDIATELY CALLING THE LOCAL POLICE.. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS CLEAR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.. COMMUNICATION – AND YOU DON’T FIRST POST IT ALL ON THE NET. First you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and proof, substantiation is NOT required.. after you have done that you can next post it openly on the net, tell all the others. Next God is fully free to deal with the unrepentant guilty offenders and believe me he will.. I have now been doing for decades too.. I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT. WHETHER THEY ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT TO GOD DOES NOT MATTER. THE POLICE, RCMP, MINISTERS, GOVERNMENT CONSULTANTS THESE DAYS, IMMIGRANT CONSULTANTS TOO IT SEEMS , SEEM TO BE ANOTHER WORD FOR ABUSERS, THIEVES, LIARS CROOKS. SO WE ALL NEED TO DEAL WITH IT MORE EFFECTIVELY NOW TOO

 
NOW of the clearly thousands of bad POLITICIANS FOR DECADES IN CANADA now how many have the RCMP successfully prosecuted, convicted.. and HOW MANY BAD COPS NOW AS WELL.. NOT EVEN A HANDFULL.. KIND OF SAYS IT ALL EH..
  
it seems that you clearly are not aware that for decades now really  bad justice ministers, bad police management is a major Canadian inadequacies Canada wide… and is one of my most popular topics read on my site.. a former bad police chief becomes a BC solicitor general.. come off it..
  

 Cash cow Alberta Traffic Fine Payment System Welcome to Alberta’s Online Traffic Payment service, which is a joint effort of the Government of   pay a traffic ticket online.. make the Alberta government, it cities, and police richer in this  very much cash strapped province… 

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Subject: Speed-on-green cameras in Calgary, Edmonton today – all getting to be really ludicrous, absurd..
 
It’s all very simple: obey the laws.  You broke the law, accept the consequences, and if that hypocritical, absurd, extreme statement was the reality, the truth, everyone would next be in jail, all of the politicians, civil and public servants, cops firstly..
 
“We’re all for anything that can reduce the amount and severity of car crashes,”  and next will increase the amount of revenue to the insurance companies, after all each traffic  ticket helps to raise their insurance costs..  to make the insurance companies richer and their shareholders, but we may get a severe backlash when the citizens car  insurance rates rise dramatically next though.
 
This is also still simply not acceptable. There is a direct link between DRIVING and collisions. The MORE you drive, the more likely you are to be involved in a collision and the more likely you are to get seriously hurt . So the police will now give tickets to all drivers .
 
The police TRAFFIC program brings in hundreds of thousands of dollars but the police, city runs the program as revenue neutral. Profits are put back into more supposedly good  traffic safety initiatives,  but mainly into the police  empire building, so it really IS NOT THE CITIZENS GOOD WELFARE THEY FIRSTLY DO ALL CARE ABOUT.
 
Now in 2008, according to police statistics, there were 3,019 injury accidents in Calgary and 38 traffic fatalities.
 
And why is it also no one will answer the question? How many people are now are actually injured due to speeding over how many persons now are injured due to drunk drivers? 15 percent are injured due to speeding? and 45 percent due to drunk drivers? so how much resources are proportional giving by the police overall  to catching drunk drivers over the car speeders? proportionally?
 
The intersection cameras are being applauded by Alberta Health Services because “there is no doubt that collisions impact our health services,” said Nancy Staniland, manager of Injury Prevention & Control Services for Alberta Health.
 
“This is not only an obvious cash grab but they are putting our safety at risk to increase their revenues. For it is a known fact that the City of Calgary had  shortened the amount of time lights stay at yellow when they brought in red light cameras. In many cases you have no choice but to floor it to beat a red light. But now your choice will be between speeding up to avoid going through a red light or getting rear ended. If you get rear ended there’s a good chance you get end up with whiplash. Really makes you wonder just how far those in power will go to rob us.”
 
“As Alberta grows, drivers are causing more problems, he said: “A lot of people are impatient, there’s road rage like never before, an increase of vehicles on our roadways, With booming populations, there’s an increase in collisions.” wow those are smart observations, such as traffic tickets are good cash cows too, 
 
and what all the people who speed are guilty of road rage? or is there a separate ticket being issued to road ragers? just as there is to drunk drivers?
 
“This is simply not acceptable. There is a direct link between speed and collisions. The faster you drive, the more likely you are to be involved in a collision and the more likely you are to get seriously hurt,” said Staff Sgt. Brett Marklund of the traffic section.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/Speed+green+cameras+start+today+Calgary/1451154/story.html
 
“In my perfect world, we are out of work. We’re not going to 80 or 90 injury collisions a year. We’re not investigating 30 or 40 fatalities a year, I’m not seeing thousands of (cases of) impaired driving a year. What we’re seeing is people driving safely and my guys writing zero tickets,”said Marklund.
 
A lot of our intersection crashes are related to speed. There’s in-deed a problem here at some locations, and now we can address both,” said acting Sgt. Aubrey Zalaski of Edmonton’s specialized traffic unit. The police can get promoted for getting more cash, giving out more tickets too.. self serving or really serving the public interest?
 
AND WHERE DO IN REALTY THE POLICE OFFICERS GET ALL OF THEIR  COMMON SENSE STATISTICS? SUPPORTED BY THE FIGMENTS OF ONE’S  IMAGINATION AND THE NEED TO JUSTIFY THEIR JOBS.. CAN I SEE THEIR DETAIL SUPPORT  STATISTICS, POLICE TRAFFIC TICKETS REPORTS  IN PRINT? NO? AND WHY NOT?
 
So why are Calgary drivers such chronic lead-foots? or is the question why is it the Calgary city fathers are so money hungry? The  police services are  implementing the   speed cameras as a way of adding to their coffers..
 
In busy Toronto, police say  Drunk driving and careless turning are the main culprits for serious accidents in intersections and red light cameras are not used because of the fear of public backlash..
 
‘Speed on green’ cameras linked to rear-end crashes.  Arizona cities, one of the first cities to bring in such technology says the cameras decrease speeding and dangerous collisions, but can increase the number of rear-end crashes. But of course the money hungry police of Calgary had denied this.
 
ANOTHER CASH GRAB.. The Calgary Parking Authority is expanding its hold on the inner city by starting to charge for parking on more than 20 blocks of the Beltline.
 
CALGARY AND EDMONTON POLICE ISSUE MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS OVER ANY OTHER CITIES  IN CANADA AND  FOR DECADES NOW TOO!
 
Anyone who thinks the cops here are being honest, serving the public is a fool..
 
Here is what I found amazing and worth while examining now  in much more detail.. insurance companies in Canada do not mind gouging Canadian consumers in their greed to make more profits..  and we all know that accumulating speeding , traffic infractions, will cause your car insurance costs to go up significantly…   and yet here is what I find surprising, neither the insurance companies, the provincial government, nor the federal government, the police have real, valid detailed statistics on the causes of traffic accidents: such as how many were caused my alcoholic drivers, how many were caused by speeding, how many were caused by poor road conditions, lousy snow clearing as well, etc not even in Ontario, Alberta, Quebec, BC as well.. …. so what do the insurance companies do with all the extra money they collect, certainly they of all persons should have firstly the best statistics on traffic accidents now in the first place, or how do they determine their rates??? Even Canada’s police chiefs have to rely on accident statistics from other countries, such as Australia, Great Britain, the US..
 
CP TIVERTON, Ont. – Bruce Power, a nuclear generating facility on the shores of Lake Huron, has fired close to 100 employees at its site at Tiverton, Ont.  Spokesman Ross Lamont says the firings announced Wednesday follow an investigation of code of conduct violations in such areas as email and internet use.   He said that Bruce Power “expects all employees and contractors to live by the code of conduct. ”  Bruce Power, about 250 kilometres northwest of Toronto, employs about 3,000 people.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090910/national/nuclear_plant_firings
 
 

 

 

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