July 20, 2009
April 7, 2009
Police do not like it when the table is turned upon them.. “Police routinely call the media together for a show-and-tell display of video or pictures of the latest brazen criminal act, but lately, a similar spotlight has been shining on police and the picture isn’t pretty. Vancouver news photographer Jason Payne summed it up as the “Robert Dziekanski syndrome” after police twisted his arm behind his back and seized his camera as he tried to take shots of a police-involved shooting. Dziekanski, a Polish immigrant who was behaving erratically, died at Vancouver’s airport after RCMP Tasered him several times in October 2007. The death went mostly unnoticed until it exploded onto the national stage after a bystander’s video of the incident showed officers using the weapon on the agitated man armed only with a stapler. A public inquiry which has been further embarrassing to the RCMP is currently underway. Since Dziekanski’s death, New Brunswick police have been chastised by a court for not only arresting a blog photographer, but deleting a picture from his camera. In December 2007, just weeks after the Dziekanski video was released to the public, Vancouver television cameraman Ricky Tong arrived to the scene of a police-involved shooting minutes after the gunfire and started filming. He was held after refusing to give up his video and only released after the station sent a live truck to the site so a copy of the video could be made on the spot. After a fatal police shooting on the street last month, Adam Smolcic, told a Vancouver officer he had taped the incident on his cell phone. He said he gave the officer his phone and when it was returned, the video had been erased. The phone is now with experts in the United States to see if the video can be extracted from the phone’s memory. Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu has apologized to both Payne and Tong. “My personal feeling is this is the Robert Dziekanski syndrome,” said Payne, a news photographer for more than a decade. “If that person hadn’t of videotaped what happened in Vancouver airport the inquiry probably wouldn’t be going on.” Payne said he was threatened with arrest. “And I really thought they were going to do it.” The Vancouver incidents have prompted a formal complaint from the B.C. Civil Liberties Association to the Vancouver Police Board. Chu has admitted police held on to the photographer’s camera an hour longer than they should have. “The officers were acting in good faith, they were acting in the heat of the moment,” he said. This comes at the same time as the City of Vancouver considers beefing up it’s surveillance during the 2010 Winter Olympics with street cameras and the B.C. government invests $1.8 million to put video systems in police cars. It’s an irony not lost on David Eby, of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association. “It’s almost like the police only want the cameras turned in one direction. That is on the citizens and not on the police,” said Eby. “But the reality of cellphone cameras and surveillance cameras is that they capture everybody equally.” No one, including police, should have the expectation of privacy in a public place, said Simon Fraser University criminologist Neil Boyd. He agreed it appears recent police actions indicate they’re concerned about public perception. “Whether this is true or not is a question – but the images do suggest that they’re more interested in how police are portrayed than using this material in the course of a police investigation,” said Boyd.
The department also sent out a bulletin warning officers they can’t take cameras or video equipment from members of the public or the media. It says officers can only take equipment in the instances where there is an arrest, a warrant, or officers have a reasonable concern that the person might destroy the evidence. Eby said police often use the potential destruction of evidence as an excuse to seize the tape. “The issue is control of the videotape and who gets to see it and more importantly who doesn’t get to see it.” He said he can’t think of a member of the public who would videotape a police-involved death and then erase it. “More likely they would sell it to a media outlet or they would put it up on YouTube. The concern that the police have is that the videotape would be distributed and there would be people criticizing their conduct,” he said. Eby said it was no coincidence that the conflicts between police and media concerned police-involved shootings. “I think the Dziekanski video really drives home the sensitivity that police have around these things.” All four officers involved in the Taser incident told the inquiry into Dziekanski’s death that the man was aggressive and waving a stapler when they arrived on the scene and that the officers had to wrestle him to the airport floor. All the officers later admitted after watching the video during the inquiry that those statements were incorrect. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090411/national/police_cameras
Police seizures of cameras prompts BC complaint Globe and Mail - VANCOUVER – The BC Civil Liberties Association wants Vancouver police reminded that they can’t just seize photos and videos from witnesses. The association said there have been three incidents where police have tried to seize cameras and video cameras — all three in cases of police-involved shootings. In a complaint to board chairman Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson, association executive director David Eby outlined his concerns that police officers are interfering with the rights of those taking pictures or video.“What’s particularly troubling to us is that the three high-profile allegations … all involve police using lethal force against citizens,” he said.
The most recent of the complaints involves a newspaper photographer whose arm was twisted behind his back by an officer when he refused to give up his camera outside a police shooting on Sunday.Last month, a man who claimed he recorded the police shooting of a homeless man on his cellphone said an officer asked for his phone and when it was returned the video had been erased. The third incident involves a TV cameraman who was held by police for several hours after he refused to give up his videotape after a police shooting at a Vancouver gas station in December 2007.Mr. Eby said police only have the right to take a camera under limited circumstances, including if the person consents or if police have a warrant. Mr. Eby said currently police believe they can seize cameras that might give evidence of a crime, but the courts have dramatically limited the scope of that law. “As a citizen, probably the best thing to do is to refuse to turn the camera over and to identify yourself to the police officer and say you’re preserving the evidence.” Mr. Eby said the association is not only demanding clarity on the issue of when police can take someone’s camera, but also believes police should stop investigating themselves when officers use lethal force.
Vancouver cops under fire for camera seizures Calgary Herald
“ I snapped another picture. The cops noticed this time. One of them strode directly over to me.“You can’t take pictures of this,” he said. His tone was aggressive.
I slid my camera back into its case.
“Okay,” I replied.
“Erase it,” he ordered me.
“I said ‘Erase it’!” he said, “I work undercover and I don’t want my picture anywhere.”
I really didn’t want to erase my picture. Not unless I had to. Besides, if he’s so concerned about keeping his undercover identity secret, he shouldn’t walk around in a police uniform.
“Do I have to?” I asked.
“I told you, I don’t want my picture anywhere.”
“Is it the law?” I asked.
“I asked you nicely,” he said, but he didn’t say it very nicely. It sounded threatening to me.
“Is it the law?” I repeated.
“I asked you nicely,” he said menacingly as he stared down at me, “Are you refusing?”
I looked at him. Maybe if we were in a dark alley with no witnesses, I would have deleted it. But here? In broad daylight, surrounded by witnesses, with a tiny, bleeding, unconscious, handcuffed woman lying on the street? He was probably in enough trouble already.
“Yes,” I said, “I’m refusing.”
“Real nice,” he said in disgust, “Thanks a lot.”
And he turned around and started to walk back to the knot of officers and the unconscious handcuffed woman.
The cop wheeled around.
“You say something?” he demanded of the young man.
“Yeah,” he replied, “I said ‘It’s still Canada.’”
“What’s that supposed to mean?” demanded the cop.
“It means,” said the young man, “that we have rights here. She can take a picture of anything she wants and she doesn’t have to delete it just because you say so.”
“Oh yeah?” demanded the cop, “I told her I work undercover and I don’t want my picture anywhere, but she doesn’t care what happens to me.”
“Maybe she cares about what happens to that person lying unconscious on the sidewalk,” suggested the young man.
“You a lawyer?” demanded the cop, “Cause if you’re not a lawyer then mind your own business.”
Then, inexplicably, the cop said, “You own property? Eh? You own property? Cause I own property. That means I pay police tax. If you don’t own property, you don’t pay police tax!”
Then he wheeled around and stomped back to his cluster of officers and the unconscious woman who was being tended to by the paramedics.“
Vancouver police chief apologizes for press camera seizure CBC.ca - Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu said on Wednesday that officers have been told they don’t have blanket authority to seize cameras from the media or the public.
Let us not forget the role played by the video of Robert Dziekanski getting tasered at the Vancouver Airport. Dziekanski was repeatedly tasered by police after becoming disoriented at the the airport. Testimony from police was directly contradicted by the video evidence shot by Paul Pritchard who was in the airport at the time. If police have the right to examine crime scene evidence then there should be very clear rules about how to handle that footage. As the Dziekanski story demonstrates, there will be times when police have a vested interested in not having that material made public.
• No mention of riot squad attack in initial account
• Video forces watchdog to consider inquiry demand
It began with an anodyne press release from the Metropolitan police more than three hours after Ian Tomlinson died. It ended with a police officer and an investigator from the Independent Police Complaints Commission asking the Guardian to remove a video from its website showing an unprovoked police assault on Mr Tomlinson minutes before his heart attack. In the space of five days through a combination of official guidance, strong suggestion and press releases, those responsible for examining the circumstances surrounding Mr Tomlinson’s death within the City of London police and the IPCC, appeared to be steering the story to what they thought would be its conclusion: that the newspaper vendor suffered an unprovoked heart attack as he made his way home on the night of the G20 protests. Late last Friday, after investigators from the IPCC had spoken to detectives from City police, the commission which claims it is the most powerful civilian oversight body in the world, was preparing to say it did not need to launch an inquiry into the deathduring one of the most controversial recent policing operations.
But the release of the video by the Guardian this week, which revealed Mr Tomlinson was subjected to an unprovoked attack by a Met riot squad officer minutes before he died, has forced the IPCC to step up to the demand that it launch a full independent inquiry. “They have caught a real cold on this,” said a senior source. “They were very slow, they clearly didn’t think anything was wrong and they didn’t look for it. Sometimes they just don’t seem to be very independent.” A former IPCC insider went further, blaming a “cosy” relationship with the police for the commission’s failure to act quickly. “The problem with the IPCC is that it is too late to start inquiries and they go on for too long,” said John Crawley, a commissioner for four years. “They should have picked this up as an independent investigation straight away. There was strong public interest given the concern about the ‘kettling’ tactics being used to police the protests and the need to gain the confidence of those demonstrators with information to come forward to someone who wasn’t the police.” http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/09/g20-police-assault-ian-tomlinson-g20
7 Apr 2009: The Guardian obtained this footage of Ian Tomlinson at a G20 protest in London, shortly before he died. It shows Tomlinson, who was not part of the demonstration, being assaulted from behind and pushed to the ground by baton-wielding police
Auditor General slams BC failure on homelessness The British Columbia government has so far failed to develop a plan to reduce homelessness, according to a report released by Auditor General John Doyle “We found significant activity and resources being applied to homelessness issues but there is no provincial homelessness plan with clear goals and objectives,” Doyle wrote. “The absence of clear goals and objectives raises questions about whether the right breadth and intensity of strategies are being deployed.” The government does not even have a grasp of the size of the problem, he said. “The lack of good comprehensive information about the nature and extent of homelessness in the province” makes it difficult to plan, he said. The only figures available are from homelessness counts conducted by municipalities and regional districts that likely underestimate the problem, he said. Those counts have been rising. “The continuing increase in the number of homeless counted suggests a lack of success in managing homelessness, let alone reducing it.” There is a good financial case to be made for better addressing homelessness, he said. “The cost of public services to a homeless person is significantly higher than to that same person being provided with appropriate housing and support services.”
Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management , supervision human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life, in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too, and elsewhere, even on the net, for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..
Bad leaders, bads pastors, bad politicans continue to exist cause likely the congregation is bad too. (Jer 5:31 KJV) The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
April 5, 2009
The B.C. government now has moved to strengthen the power of the province’s police watchdog and close loopholes in laws governing municipal police, ensuring officers will no longer be able to avoid discipline by resigning. Proposed amendments to B.C.’s Police Act will boost the authority of the Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner, an independent office that oversees complaints against the province’s 11 municipal police departments. (Note The pretentious RCMP operates under its own federal complaint process.) Among the most significant changes is one stipulating that the commissioner can continue disciplinary proceedings even if an officer or police chief resigns. Any discipline is added to their service record in case they try to become an officer again. Currently, there is no such power.
Other changes to the Police Act include:
- An officer is required to co-operate with an investigation within five days or risk a misconduct charge. Currently, they can avoid co-operating.
- The commissioner, not the police force, will decide whether an allegation should be investigated. Currently, the department makes that call, and the commissioner can overrule it.
- The commissioner will oversee all investigations in real-time using computer software. Currently, he has to request police files.
- An officer will be entitled to appear before a police board before being suspended without pay.
- The maximum suspension without pay increases to 30 days from five days.
Former Victoria police chief Paul Battershill avoided suspension last year by resigning prior to a disciplinary hearing into his affair with a police board lawyer. The case also saw former Victoria mayor Alan Lowe acting as discipline authority over Battershill, despite suggestions he was in conflict due to being a witness in the investigation. Lowe said he had no power to recuse himself. The changes will allow a retired judge to take over as discipline authority in such a conflict. Also Jamie Graham, the current Victoria police chief, retired from the Vancouver police force in 2007, before being found guilty of discreditable conduct for failing to encourage officers to co-operate in an investigation of misconduct allegations in the Downtown Eastside. Under the proposed changes, he would still have been disciplined and his record marked before he was hired by Victoria. “I think it goes for [former] chief Battershill and myself that when we did leave office … we were prepared to waive those provisions of the act to allow discipline to fall,” Graham said in an interview. He applauded the changes for increasing transparency.
A public hearing before a provincial court judge would have compelled all 37 witnesses to give testimony under oath, with the appropriate authority weighing the evidence and making a determination of that evidence, according to the standard of law. A public hearing would have forced the truth out. Evidence would have been properly weighed and the rumour mill would have been silenced…. The police board and the Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner must acknowledge that there is a high threshold of public accountability for a chief of police. Any misconduct or inappropriate behaviour resulting in the removal of a chief should have an expectation of full disclosure. see also http://www2.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/letters/story.html?id=7b907f07-dee9-450e-98d9-915fb28267c3
David Eby, executive director of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, said the complaint process still inadequately involves the police investigating themselves. Eby was also clearly disappointed that documents relating to investigations will continue to be exempt from Freedom of Information requests. But the government will look at the value of civilian oversight, similar to Ontario, as part of an audit of the complaints process set for 2013, said B.C. Solicitor General John van Dongen. The government bill includes “virtually all” of the 91 recommendations made by Justice Josiah Wood in his 2007 report into the system’s failings, said van Dongen. Bob Rich, president of the B.C. Association of Municipal Chiefs of Police, said, if passed, the reforms will increase public confidence in the complaint process. overnment house leader Mike de Jong said he hopes the bill is approved in the current legislative session, expected to end in late March or early April. Farnworth, NDP critic criticized the government for taking almost two years to write the legislation.
Now this Long-awaited changes to B.C.’s police complaint process appear set to die on the floor of the provincial legislature as government dissolvesd parliament without passing the amendments into law. HOW IS THAT FOR A PRETENTIOUS BC MINISTER NOW TOO. Solicitor General John van Dongen admitted that the changes won’t become law .. and Van Dongen didn’t answer directly when asked if government knew in early March the bill would not pass. ”it’s clear government didn’t view those items as priorities… If the government thought it was important to get re-elected they would have done it, that’s the bottom line, this BC Liberal government has been fairly clear in pushing through the legislation on things they think are important, they’ve invoked closure…. they clearly have the votes to do so.”.. I HOPE NO ONE IS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO RE-ELECT HIM TOO?http://www.theage.com.au/national/investigations/minister-told-ashby-be-careful-20090405-9t9l.html
Meanwhile in Australia… “A VICTORIAN Government minister tipped off former assistant police commissioner Noel Ashby in 2007 that then union chief Paul Mullett might be under investigation, according to a secret briefing paper prepared on behalf of Ashby. The paper, marked “private and confidential”, gives the first example of the alleged political corruption that Mr Ashby has threatened to air since he was charged with corruption offences last year. It reveals that Ashby had a “private meeting with a minister of parliament … on or about the 2nd April” in 2007. The document states that the minister “disclosed to him (Ashby) that he should be careful talking to Mr Mullett on the telephone”. At the time of the conversation, Mullett was the secretary of the 11,000-member Police Association. The document states that after meeting the politician, “Mr Ashby was left in no doubt that there were moves afoot to remove Mr Mullett from the political environment prior to the next election”. The document also states that Ashby, who resigned from the force in late 2007, has information to expose “a corrupt conspiracy … (involving) the highest levels of the Victorian Government”. The document, which does not name the minister who met Ashby, was written in order to convince the police union to fund his legal fight against corruption charges connected to allegations that he leaked sensitive information to Mullett. The claims in the document suggest that the politician who met Ashby knew that Mullett’s activities were being scrutinised by authorities with the power to tap phones. At the time of the April 2007 meeting, a detective who was a close friend of Mullett’s was the subject of two police corruption probes, including one that tapped the detective’s phones and recorded all conversations he had with Mullett. That ongoing inquiry is examining whether the now-suspended detective and union delegate Peter Lalor was linked to the murder of a male prostitute, Shane Chartres-Abbott. The second inquiry in 2007 into Detective Lalor concerned his improper use of the force’s email system to run a smear campaign against a union rival. This police inquiry also examined whether Mullett had any role in the creation of the Lalor emails. The disclosure in the Ashby briefing paper of the April meeting raises questions about the appropriateness of a politician discussing potentially sensitive issues with a senior policeman and whether the meeting was authorised by anyone in the Government or force command. Ashby’s corruption charges arise out of allegations that he leaked sensitive information to Mullett, including the existence of the secret probe into alleged links between Detective Lalor and the Chartres-Abbott murder. Ashby is facing 13 counts of perjury, 13 of misleading the director of the Office of Police Integrity and three of breaching OPI confidentiality. The decision of the union to fund Ashby’s defence from its $17 million cost fund has angered some union members, who claim he rejoined the union only after learning that he was likely to be the subject of a corruption investigation. Ashby rejoined the union after an eight-year hiatus on September 27, 2007, two days after he learned that the OPI might be targeting him. But the Ashby briefing paper contends that he had tried to rejoin the union in December 2006 during a discussion with Mullett. The paper states that “it was decided it was not an opportune time” to rejoin due to Ashby’s role negotiating a pay deal with the union. A group of police officers is gathering signatures to force the union to call a meeting to challenge Ashby’s legal funding. Mullett also is facing corruption charges arising from OPI hearings into the information leaks and will have his defence funded by the union. He has also denied any wrongdoing and resigned from the Police Association last month, leaving him entitled to a retirement payout of more than $1.2 million.”
4: THEY SERVE THEIR POLITICAL MASTERS - MAYORS, PREMIERS, PRIME MINISTERS ESPECIALLY AND NOT THE CITIZENS,
5: THEY MOSTLY SERVE THEMSELVES TOO..
Under the police act any professional policeman can be fired from his job for any of his bad behavior, even for anything he or she does after working hours, if his personal acts specially bring ill repute to the police force in general, and that includes adultery, alcoholism, drunken driving, abusive behavior now too.. and for sure should include stealing, expense account abuses, lying to his superiors and others.. for the RCMP as well.
We also still do need better police managers, beter Justice Ministers Canada wide too. The British Columbia police also have proved particularly adept at finding loopholes in the BC Police Act, the most common of which is to resign or retire just before a disciplinary hearing, since the act has no wording on how to deal with former officers. B.C.’s outgoing police complaint commissioner Dirk Ryneveld who wrapped up his six-year term with the Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner last week had now spent most of his time lobbying for reform of the province’s Police Act, which would boost the powers of his office as it wrestles to assert independent civilian oversight over B.C.’s municipal police departments.
police chief job Job listing for police chief Description: directs and coordinates activities of governmental police department in accordance with authority delegated by board of police: promulgates rules and regulations for department as delegated by regulating code. coordinates and administers daily police activities through subordinates. coordinates internal investigation of members of department for alleged wrong doing. suspends or demotes members of force for infractions of rules or inefficiency. directs activities of personnel engaged in preparing budget proposals, maintaining police records, and recruiting staff. approves police budget and negotiates with municipal officials for appropriation of funds. may command force during emergencies, such as fires and riots. may make inspection visits to precincts. may address various groups to inform public of goals and operations of department. may prepare requests for government agencies to obtain funds for special operations or for purchasing equipment for department. in smaller communities, may assist one or more subordinates in investigation or apprehension of offenders. in communities having no board of police, may be designated police commissioner (government ser.) ii.
…denial of bad cops and coverup of the bad acts of the bad cops is more likley..
April 1, 2009
-Plus changes over the past decade in the structure of Canadian production and exports have resulted in a dramatic proportional rise in resource exports and a corresponding decline in manufacturing exports. Always a trade-dependent country (accounting for about one-third of our GDP), Canada is now even more vulnerable to volatile commodity price and volume swings. This vulnerability is heightened by the fact that more than 80 per cent of our exports go to the U.S. In the last six months alone, these exports have fallen by one-third… Counting on a U.S. recovery to spark a revival of Canadian exports and free-ride our economy out of recession may have worked in the past, but the U.S. is not likely to come out of the current recession any time soon.
Harper also falsely has been peddling an upbeat type message that economic recovery is just around the corner, a message that flies in the face of a deteriorating economy., real economic vulnerabilities underlying Canada’s economy. So with an intervention-averse Conservative government at the helm, Canada’s recession will be deeper and more prolonged than it needs to be. Many more people will suffer. And the cost to the economy and to our way of life will next be profound.
There is no good news in these matters yet..
-For many Canadians, stagnant wages and low interest rates depleted savings and led to the ballooning of personal debt as a way for many as a way to maintain to their standard of living.
February 28, 2009
I do not- trust anyone and rightfully so as well now.. I trust myself to even be imperfect for God alone can be trusted..
September 17, 2008
Like masturbation Professional, Corporate, Industry Self regulation – it is not the real thing but a pretence often.. bad Politicians like it cause it is a quick buck passing and cheap.
An elderly New Brunswick woman who recently died was carrying the same strain of the bacteria Listeria monocytogenes that caused a countrywide recall of Maple Leaf Food products, health officials confirmed . This confirmation did not help the same person though.
Medical journal slams Ottawa over listeriosis as 17th death linked to food recall FREDERICTON — As the death toll rose Tuesday from the national listeriosis outbreak, an editorial in the Canadian Medical Association Journal slammed the federal government for undermining public health safeguards. An elderly woman in New Brunswick became the 17th person whose death has been linked to the recall of food products from a Maple Leaf Foods (TSX:MFI) plant in Toronto. It is the first confirmed case east of Ontario. The New Brunswick Health Department said Tuesday that the woman, in her early 80s, was infected with the same strain of listeria involved in the country-wide outbreak – which the CMAJ editorial commented on when it was released on Tuesday. “As in the Walkerton and SARS epidemics, an outbreak of this size may point to systemic failures across multiple levels,” states the editorial in the latest edition of the journal, referring to a deadly water contamination eight years ago in Walkerton, Ont. “Listeria is the biological agent, cold cuts the vector, but the ultimate cause may be found in risky government decisions.” The editorial, signed by several doctors and journal editors, states that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s government has reversed much of the progress previous governments made in relation to public health.
The editorial takes aim at the Conservative government’s decision to transfer inspection duties for ready-to-eat meats to the meat industry itself, while allowing listeria standards to remain lower than they are in most countries and stripping the Public Health Agency of Canada of much of its political clout. The editorial also makes the case for a full-scale, arms-length public inquiry similar to those for the tainted blood scandal, Walkerton and the SARS epidemic, rather than the investigation called for by the Harper government. “A full-scale public inquiry into the major failings of Canada’s food inspection system is necessary to protect Canadians from future epidemic threats, and the Canadian public should settle for nothing less than that,” the editorial states.
The woman’s death in New Brunswick is the first such fatality in Atlantic Canada. Dr. Eilish Cleary, New Brunswick’s acting chief medical officer of health, said listeriosis was a contributing factor in the woman’s death. “Listeriosis is considered a contributing factor but it is not likely the immediate cause of death,” she said, adding the woman had been seriously ill with other afflictions. Cleary said the nursing home where the woman had been living did serve a Maple Leaf product that was on the recall list. But she said there is no way of knowing if the woman was infected at the nursing home because she had access to food outside the facility. Cleary refused to release the name of the woman or the name of the nursing home. She also wouldn’t reveal the region of New Brunswick where the nursing home is located. “The risk is very low,” Cleary said, defending the government department’s secrecy in the case. “It is important if you get sick to be diagnosed and treated but there is no preventative medication of early diagnosis that can be done ahead of time. The risk in this facility is no greater than it is anywhere else.” Cleary said the health department will not compromise patient confidentiality even when a person is dead, unless there is a good reason for the public to be given information. New Brunswick typically has two to three cases of listeriosis every year, but this is the first and only case in the province since Maple Leaf Foods began a massive recall of deli meats last month due to fears of contamination. A Maple Leaf Foods plant in Toronto, where the listeria bacterium was found embedded deep inside slicing equipment, has been closed since Aug. 20. Health officials in Prince Edward Island are awaiting test results from a Winnipeg laboratory on a man hospitalized with listeriosis earlier this month. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080916/national/nb_listeriosis_death
Self regulation is another bad word for masturbation and it is not the real thing
So still now what really is needed firstly is not more CHEAP, PRETENTIOUS self regulations, the supposed discipline of their members , or even their ensuring their education, but real INSPECTIONS, EFFECTIVENESS , competency testing.
For it is a fact that anything that will put a self regulating body or a Ministry into a negative light will have a built in tendency still to be denied, suppressed, minimized in reality, to be ineffective .
“about the ABUSERS, bullies, thugs, proud oppressors, war mongers “
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
THE POLICE, RCMP, MINISTERS, GOVERNMENT CONSULTANTS THESE DAYS, IMMIGRANT CONSULTANTS TOO IT SEEMS , SEEM TO BE ANOTHER WORD FOR ABUSERS, THIEVES, LIARS CROOKS. SO WE ALL NEED TO DEAL WITH IT MORE EFFECTIVELY NOW TOO.
April 27, 2008
Look I have rightfully hundreds of time to the government, on the net, to the news media already have said that phone companies undeniably, unacceptable too, are a bad big despotic control freak, monopolistic, immoral, deceptive in reality, practice, and in reality most of the phone companies do not honour the normal, decent laws, rules, regulations. Bell Canada included is a dictator that wants all others to play by it’s own rules. Bell does not know how to respect, keep, honour the terms of it’s contractual obligations to it’s own customers, immoral Bell rather likes to rewrite the contract continuously, one sided so that it is always better solely for Bell. Dream on..
Well even if Bully abusive Bell falsely under the guise of profitability, competitiveness, making more profit or whatever, now still thinks it is a big, large, established firm, corporation that does not have to play by the established rules, rather it can make it’s own rules. I on behalf of all Canadian, Bell’s customers even now, I am rightfully asking nevertheless that the federal government, prime Minister Stephen Harper and his cabinet exemplary force Bell to respect the laws of decency, norms, the established regulations and to even regulate next rightfully Bell much more so that bad Bell definitely stops being guilty of it’s undeniable false misleading advertising practices, unfair and restrictive trade practices for the good of all Canadians now as well , not just for the good of Bell.
Regulators need to exist cause we all tend to know big bad corporations tend to cheat, lie, abuse the consumers.
Virgin Mobile Canada 50 percent owned by Bell is no better over Bell
I have an engineering degree, Concordia University , Montreal 1968, and I had worked as a ReMax Realtor in Calgary too but in my decades of real life experiences in Canada the existing laws, regulating societies, governments clearly did not stop many Realtors, lawyers or even now Bell Sympatico from telling lies to the customers, others. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/
Imagine that Bell has been in Business for many years and was, is still too often, wrongfully guilty now clearly of misleading advertisements, fraudulent and unacceptable business practices, not living up to their contractual obligations, as I now have PERSONALLY WITNESSED, EXPERIENCED and undeniably detailed to even Bell and many others and many times too now . I had Paid for a high speed unlimited download service but that is not what I got next. I got low internet speed at a high price. With Bell you have to check your actual delivered speeds , “internet download and upload speed test” continually too cause Bell wrongfully seems always to change it to suit themselves..
I SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL, I PUT IT INTO CLEARLY WRITING, SO THE GUILTY PARTY CANNOT SAY I DID NOT ASK HIM OR HER TO REPENT.
For years, credit card issuers have gotten away with withholding contracts from customers until they actually have the plastic in their hands — a practice that denies many people a fair chance to look under the hood for onerous terms and conditions.Now it looks like Verizon has adopted the same technique.
What really struck [Torrance, California resident Sandy Lough] was the discovery that to receive the promised discount for her bundled plan, she’d have to go online and agree to a 2,000-word “bundle service agreement” and a 7,000-word terms of service for Internet access.
This was the first time she was being presented with the full contract for her new FiOS setup, and the service had already been installed and activated.
The LA Times article goes on to mention some of the more notable terms of the contract. The interesting thing is that it would appear that this is not simply an oversight – that perhaps Verizon deliberately withholds contract terms from customers until they’ve already committed to the service:
As for why the full contract is withheld until after FiOS has been installed in a person’s home, [Verizon spokesman Cliff Lee] said only that “this is the way we’ve found that works.”
What has happened to make large corporations think they can simply change the deal at their whim, after a customer has already signed on the dotted line, without giving the customer the same right? “
No large corporation, with almost infinite legal resources and billions of dollars behind them, should be able to use their wealth to put real people at a disadvantage, because it would be presumed that only the corporations had any legal rights. Bell included now.
Bell itself found a an excuse for not performing a specific job assigned to them under the contract agreement but fooled few people in the process now too. One side breaching a contract is a common, often fact of life, very common, and it happens often in in the Computer business, with Internet Service Providers, in Real estate and even with new home contractors now as well sadly, and I have often witnessed it myself.. and pretentious self regulating boards, governments are mostly useless too, and it is basically too costly to get a lawyer, it only makes the lawyer’s richer, so now the best way to deal with any breach of contract is to expose the bad guys to all, to the news media and thus really put them out of business.. and I have done that even with major corporations successfully now too.. ”
10. YOUR BUSINESS REPUTATION. You could damage your reputation in the business community.
9. YOUR BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS. You could sever your business relationship with the other party.
8. LAWSUITS. You could be sued.
7. TIME AWAY FROM YOUR BUSINESS. If sued, you could be forced to spend valuable time away from your business in order to respond to discovery requests, attend depositions, and litigate the matter in court.
6. LEGAL FEES. You could incur significant legal fees.
5. SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE. Depending on the nature of the contract, you could be ordered by the court to perform your obligations under the contract.
4. CONTEMPT. If you don’t obey the court’s order, you could be held in contempt, fined, and/or imprisoned.
3. COMPENSATORY AND CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES. You could be forced to pay money damages to the nonbreaching party, in an amount that puts that party in as good a position as it would have been in were it not for the breach.
2. PUNITIVE DAMAGES. You could be ordered to pay punitive damages, which are not limited by the amount of the other party’s losses and can be very significant.
1. YOU LOSE ALL THE WAY AROUND. You could end up spending much more time, money, and mental and physical energy resolving the breach than you would have spent performing your obligations under the contract.”
“I was surprised this week when a Bell employee from Bell’s accounting department told me on the phone that I should obey, do everything that the Bell president, and his employee Sasha Rollins tells me to do. Dream on. Bluntly I replied to the same employee “who the hell does he Sasha Rollins now think his e really is that I should obey anything, or everything he says, he firstly is not my master, I do not work for Bell, I am not his employee”.. Bell is getting carried away with their much too many, unenforceable, exotic, extreme, man made rules now, but they breached my contract still much to often and that itself is really inacceptable still too. Clearly Bell and their executive power has falsely now gone to their heads when they even do think they can abuse any others, an ordinary citizen now too. I as a Sympatico customer that does have a contract with Bell, a mutual contract they Bell now also have to respect and that contract now does not make me their slave, subordinate, and them my master, but they are still my legal equals in the matters. They have to respect my contract side now too. Do remind them all of that too at Bell.”
The federal, provincial governments, the CRTC, Conservatives, Liberals unfairly maintaining archaic, monopolistic telecommunication firms, that are often bloated, cost ineffective, incompetent, over staffed, un-competitively managed as well is the main reasons consumer costs falsely keep on going up now.