Bell’s lies vs reality again

   

  

 

 

 I can’t believe it decades later some sick control fool still tries to give me orders, tries to enslave me, walk over me, and why do they think they can even do it… My logo name alone should have warned them -  thenonconformer. The best way to deal with any of these false slave drivers is to shout rape loudly to all persons, and let everyone know what is being done. the News media is not the only one that can shout sins across the housetops, so can we  all with the internet now too. The past once nobodies like Apostle Paul, Marlin Luther, Martin Luther King all had learned the pen is mightier than the sword.. once the truth is exposed, the proper informed persons tend to deal with the matter, and with those involved next anyway.. but too bad the bad guys did not repent when they had a chance, for next it is often really too late to avoid their coming  real negative  consequences..  Now I have been OFTEN writing to news editors for the last 30 years.. MAILED OUT EMAIL TO THOUSANDS EVERY MONTH TOO,   in all that time less than a dozen important people asked me not to write to them any  more, and less than a handful news editors now too.. many of these politicians who  how had written to me had lost reelection next.. and do note that all of the news editors that wrote to me and said do not write to me anymore their firms are financially broke today, and even some gone out of business.. like the Montreal CFCF. You see they broke the first law of successful management.. you do not despise, mistreat, abuse others and hope to get their vote, support,  but  now they also broke the other rules next.. and you do not abuse others for you do not know who their  friends are now  are too.. These bad CONTROL FREAKS WHO TRY TO ENSLAVE, DOMINATE OTHERS ARE SICK PEOPLE NEEDING still PROFESSIONAL HELP IN REALITY.. We also do all know that most persons  still  tend to take an ostrich denial approach to their own faults, shortcomings still and thus hasten their own downfall as a result too.. When a business’s profitability is severely reducing, dropping, the top  management often fails to admit the truth, the real reasons as to why,  and they also tend to falsely among many other things

- lie some more

- raise their prices to try to try to increase their profitability, making themselves more uncompetitive

- cut back on customer services, clearly making matters even worse

- resort to costly, false, misleading advertisements again

- blame their employees , and have a high employee turnover, making matters worse

- blame other facts for their own management failures,

- really do not provide a positive, competitive  service

- generally fail to replace all of the bad top executive, middle managers with good personnel 

What to Do When You Have Complained Without Any Results? KEEP ON MAILING YOUR COMPLAINTS TO ALL TILL YOU GET RESULTS FIRSTLY.. 

AND ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED TO DEAL WITH BELL SERVICE, COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT KNOWS HOW OBSTINATE, STONE WALLING, UNHELPFUL THEY MOSTLY CAN BE TOO..

 

FALSE MISLEADING ADVERTISING ALREADY BY Bell  their  fastest and most reliable wireless network INCLUDES ONLY SOME PARTS OF CANADA, NOT APPLICABLE CANADA WIDE..

 

 Many can see clearly that Rogers, Bell, Videotron, Shaw, Telus all only care about one thing.. maximum profits.. motivated by maximum greed..  mostly finding an excuse to charge the customer even for more.. and yes that they have done with their lies, distortions … and no one cares about integrity or  the citizens, consumer, the CRTC or the governments now included. 

  

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons seems to be most effective way that works for everyone’s benefit in dealing with the bad acts of others still.

Reality
Bell launched their HSPA network on Tuesday and 3 days after we’ve been informed that an new issue has popped up. It’s regarding select Canadian customers on their HSPA network who are getting billed for roaming while in Canada. Apparently, as experienced with EVDO devices, the HSPA devices may be picked up by a U.S. cell tower and those customers are being billed US roaming rates.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/06/bell-creates-accidental-roaming-in-canada-as-some-hspa-clients-getting-charged-while-in-canada/

The spin doctors, liars were at it again, also telling you that iphones sales were recession proof and that many, many people in Canada were buying the cell phones now,  but the real reality was, is that Canadian Mobile Phone Market had stalled in Q3, thoid quarter of the year.  The projected  Canadian mobile phone market growth now  did not occur again. The market rather receded 8% in the third quarter of 2009 (3Q09), which also had marked the third straight sequential decline, according to preliminary results from IDC Canada’s Mobile Phone Tracker. Handset makers had also shipped 4% fewer units to wireless service providers and other channel partners in the third quarter when compared to the same quarter last year. Some analysts  now  attribute  the weaker-than-projected  performance to the actual tepid Canadian economy, which is still in a recession, and the shrinking traditional phone segment, plus whatever. It’s all also a step backwards when compared to the market performance in the second quarter of this year – the third quarter shipments had declined 1.7% compared to 2Q09.. reality contradicts the liars again.  

Now here is something most active computer internet users do also know and have also complained about.. Did you also now  notice that none of the Canadian news media will confront Bell or the CRTC about any of this, Bell’s immoral acts and now why is that? Do tell us all. They want to get Bell’s advertisements? or they too have something to hide? which one is it?  Well when you do rightfully tell the real truth like I  do, next there is nothing to try to hide, to deny, to cover up, and  it makes life much more easier too. I do not have to threaten anyone or threathen falsey to sue them now too.

False misleading advertising has long time been made by Telus, Rogers, Bell and others in Canada whole the Ostrich federal consumer dperantmt, government did nothing.. I even wrote to you about THIS ISSUE  too and what it takes the courts to deal with everything now, AND so why do we need the  government 

CBC did not mind writing about New conflict unearthed at Ontario Health … but what about the other bad guys like Bell now too? If you have a tip, please send us an email at yournews@cbc. 

 

 Firstly real Life mainly is not about the Government, the news media, anyone else to be here to help  the selected few, big business mostly to make more money and to get richer in fact. Life it is about all of us helping to meet the basic, essential needs of all Canadians, note all, young and old, male and female, white collared or blue collared, professionals, unprofessional, natives or non natives too.

 

It is an established, undeniable fact that at least 40 percent off Bell’s present, past customers have  been dissatisfied with the actual customer support they have received in Canada relating to cell phones, internet services, billings, etc. That is why many of them have gone elsewhere even to Videotron, Acanac, etc.

 

Bell spin
Bell’s New Network Fastest And Most Reliable  MONTRÉAL – Canadians can now access the country’s largest, fastest and most reliable wireless network with Bell Mobility’s launch this week of its highly anticipated HSPA network and a range of new HSPA smartphones and turbo sticks.

 

> From: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: Paul Kambulow
> Subject: Re: Since it seems many Medical Administrators do insist that the whole world read about it
>
> Please unsubscribe.
> Lynn Burgess
> Producer, The National
> CBC-TV Toronto

>> http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/quebec-doctors-want-a-legal-pardon-for-their-murders-of-citizens-patients/   
> http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/the-still-unrepentant-wicked-persons/   
> http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/hospital-deaths-account-for-half-of-deaths-annually/  
> http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/great-example-of-a-two-tier-health-system-in-canada/  
> http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/death-in-hospitals/  

 

From: paul kambulow

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:40 PM

To: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca

Subject: Bell’s lies vs reality again « The non conformer’s Canadian Weblog

The bigger they think they are the harder they do fall next too.. It is really not what you think you are that counts, but rather how the other people mostly do see you now.. they are sadly what laughing at you too? People always do watch how you do treat others, cause they know they likely will be treated the same way next too. Do you treat everyone else the  way you treat me too?

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/too-many-liars-in-canada/

From: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.caSent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:49 AM
To: paul kambulow
Subject: Re: bell-sipport.jpg
Would you please remove my name from your mailing list?
Thanks,
Lynn Burgess
Producer, The National
CBC-TV Toronto
>>> “paul kambulow” 
From: paul kambulow
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: bell-sipport.jpg
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/bells-lies-vs-reality-again/

From: Paul Kambulow
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:31 PM
To: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca
Subject: Blog Stats ‹ The non conformer’s Canadian Weblog — WordPress
Do also  Note the bad CRTC is my number 2 most read post to date …
My Top posts the last few years..

Title
Divorce And Remarriage In The Christian Church 
CRTC’s Farcical hearings on Internet speed Internet
2009 CANADIAN EDITORIAL CARTOONS Politics
l care.. CANADIAN HEALTH CARE medical Health care
Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church   
Christian and Missionary Alliance Corporation
 
I do not need to pay for a Poll to know what many Canadians are interested in…
 Now as a CBC publicly owned  investigative reporter are you willing to take a full closer look at how big bad actually Bell operates now and abuses many of it’s customers undeniably, if not why not?

From: paul kambulow
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:29 PM
To: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca

Subject: Re: bell-sipport.jpg
Will you please get another job  first.. for the CBC is also still Canadian tax payer’s supported..
Our personal  free speech right to now write to any news editor in Canada is undeniable now too,
or do you now want to specially debate that now with me on the whole net for the whole world to see and read? I gladly will discuss it,

 

From: Paul Kambulow
To: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca 

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:00 PM

Subject: RE: Blog Stats ‹ The non conformer’s Canadian Weblog — WordPress
Please remove my name from your email listings
Thank-you.
Lynn Burgess
Producer, The National
CBC-TV Toronto

>>> “paul kambulow”  11/9/2009 2:54 PM >>>
Please confirm your present job status at the CBC and who your immediate supervisor now is as well.  After all the CBC is now also to be transparent and accountable. Thank you

From: paul kambulow
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:39 PM
To: Lynn.Burgess@cbc.ca
Subject: Re: RE:Blog Stats ‹ The non conformer’s Canadian Weblog — WordPress
  I learned long time ago that merely telling the truth to some people will not work, they have their false idols, false lies they still want to handle, and they will take the Ostrich approach to the truth, but hopefully the truth will next still help some people.”
 
Please do first reply to me, please do answer the question or quit the CBC first.. it is as simple as that.. you like to write about corrupt eHealth officials but not about corrupt Bell employees? I do not work for you, I do not take your orders.. you work for me, all the Canadian citizens.. I send out hundreds of these to elected representatives, others  and only one, you did not like it… why was that?
 
Remind your Boss also in full I have a right of free speech in Canada, whether you likese  it or admits it or not.. and don’t bother sending the police to my home about my letters, cause they have come and gone many times, sent by other crooked political masters too,  and yes many of whom next lost their re-election next too, and I am still writing the last 3 decades even  to all..
 
Now I would rather you deal with the issues I write about and rightfully now too
 
Paul Kambulow
Copy to the net too..

 

see also

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/bell-telus-team-up-to-upgrade-networks-and-why/

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/gross-vehicular-manslaughter-while-texting/

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/canadians-want-a-full-cell-phone-while-driving-ban/ 

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/insuring-adequate-consumer-protection/

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/the-new-still-sad-unacceptable-reality/

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/deceptive-unacceptable-unfair-business-trade-practices-unreliable-internet-access/ 

 

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/this-next-was-so-predictable-even-by-me-too/

 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/bittorrent-p2p-sites/ 

Bell does not discriminate, show partiality, it seems ready to abuse anyone.. ROGERS AS WELL NOW FOR THAT MATTER http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/about-time-big-3-put-into-their-place-bell-rogers-and-telus/

 

Telus sues Rogers over advertised claims    Telus Communications Co. is suing Rogers Communications Inc., claiming Rogers no longer has the right to call itself “Canada’s most reliable” or “Canada’s fastest” network.  So if Rogers wants to continue with this claim, they should cover all of Canada and all their customers. Not just the ones that happen to live in a major city centre. Nationwide coverage??? Not even close.    I currently have Telus “high speed” Internet service. On numerous occasions, this Telus service has been slower than my old 56K dial-up service. That is why I am canceling my Telus service as of next week and going with the competition (just to see if they are any better).   Telus is in no position to be taking legal action based on Rogers engaging in misleading advertising. Telus does it too, with its advertised claims of high speed internet access. If Telus is advertising high-speed Internet service, it should be high speed 24/7, and not just when the network is not busy.   And this is not just my computer or modem being slow, as I have had numerous others tell me that their Telus “high speed” Internet service is very slow at times.   A perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black   Just another couple of corporate crybabies looking to gouge the customer.    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/18/bc-telus-rogers-lawsuit.html

 

Telus Communications Inc. (T-T33.500.200.60%) launches legal action against Rogers Communications Inc. (RCI.B-T33.00-0.14-0.42%) for allegedly misleading ads claiming Rogers provides “Canada’s fastest network.”  In documents filed in B.C. supreme court, Telus says that since a Nov. 5 upgrade, a network run by Bell (BCE-T27.640.431.58%) and Telus offers faster and more reliable service than the Rogers network.  Telus says Rogers advertisements introduced in 2007 and continuing after Nov. 5 that claim Rogers provides “Canada’s fastest network: two times faster than any other,” are now false and misleading.  Telus also claims similar advertisements that Rogers provides “Canada’s most reliable network,” have also been false since Telus’ upgrade.  Telus is seeking a declaration from Rogers that its advertisements breached Canada’s Competition Act, in addition to injunction from distributing the ads, damages and compensation. Canada’s wireless telecommunications industry, in which Telus, Bell and Rogers control about 90 per cent of the market, is set to become more competitive as Telus and Bell introduce Apple’s coveted iPhone, which Rogers has offered for more than a year.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/telus-sues-rogers-over-ad-claims/article1368486/

WHAT REAL RELIABLE DATA ALSO DO THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THE TERM MOST RELIABLE NOW.. BY THE ACTUAL THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS? OR IS THIS THEIR OWN SELF ANALYSIS, OR A PAID SPIN DOCTOR.

Telecom New Zealand’s Australian arm, AAPT hails as Australia’s first ISP to launch an ADSL 2+ plan with limitless downloads, no capping and no throttling. It has initiated with the offering of unlimited ADSL2+ broadband service to customers who are interested to sign-up for two years for around a $99.95 per month. However, a dozen ISPs offer unlimited downloads as part of their broadband Internet plans, but most of them facilitate reduced speeds while others charge fees for extra downloads. AAPT Chief Executive Paul Broad quoted, “As consumers, we all have a moral responsibility to ensure recording artists receive the royalties they rightly deserve and by offering our Entertainment Bundle we’re encouraging Australians to do the right thing”. In addition, AAPT has also undergone a deal with music label EMI to facilitate an online music service with the offer which will include $50 worth of song downloads and unlimited streamed content.

http://topnews.net.nz/content/22156-aapt-launches-adsl2-plan-facilitating-unlimited-downloading

 

Quebec-based internet service provider Cogeco Inc. has stopped advertising its services as the fastest in in two Quebec cities after the Competition Bureau ruled the ads were misleading. The federal agency said the misleading claims about Cogeco’s services services in Drummondville and St-Hyacinthe had been clarified, but didn’t didn’t provide details on when the ads ran or say if its probe was spurred by a consumer complaint. The bureau said consumers had no way to compare the speed of Cogeco’s services with those of all of its competitors in the two cities, and it was therefore impossible for Cogeco to claim that they offered “the fastest” service. Cogeco’s CEO Louis Audet defended the ad campaign, saying the firm at the time had used an internet site that rates broadband speeds globally.  Cogeco is now using another method to compare speeds with them. Audet said he considers the Competition Bureau’s investigation to be minor. “I think what we were doing was rather benign. We advertised ourselves as the ‘fastest’ which is really the platform that we use across all of our territories where we compete with Bell and Telus,” he said.http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/091217/business/consumer_consumer_cogeco_1

Claims about speed and reliability are becoming issues of dispute among Canada’s major wireless companies, too. They are fighting legal battles over those issues as they position themselves for more competition as more players enter the cellphone market. On Wednesday, a B.C. court ruled that Bell Mobility could not claim it was Canada’s “most reliable network” after Rogers challenged Bell’s ads as misleading.  Last month, a B.C. court brought an injunction to force Rogers Communications to stop claiming it was Canada’s most reliable network. That was the result of a complaint by Telus.

As the CBC’s Lynn Burgess http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/marywiens/ehealth.html knows first hand I seriously challenged Bell’s claim of being the most reliable network, as I have often posted on my sites this fact as to how unreliable they rather were . I have often rightfully said it is a very common unacceptable Canadian practice to lie in business and we keep on getting new news media evidence of this now as well..

Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services,

 

Canadian cell phone companies are officially giving customers the ability to refuse mid-term changes to their contracts under a new wireless code of conduct. Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association on Tuesday, promises to let customers cancel their contracts without early termination fees if the carrier makes material changes to terms — or customers can refuse the changes outright. So, for example, if a customer is in the middle of a two-year contract and the carrier tries to raise prices, the customer can cancel the contract or continue their existing deal until it expires. “In the case of such material changes that are unfavourable to customers, we either give them the right to terminate the contract without any additional fees for early termination, or allow them to remain on the unchanged contract,” The code specifies that the rule doesn’t apply in the case of changes required by law or for customers without a fixed-term contract. ” They make it sound like they are doing us a favour my actually honouring a contract.”  ”How nice of them to let us get out of a contract that was broken by the other party. You’d think common sense would have just allowed us to always do this. Wow, now contracts really GO both ways?” “  This doesn’t mean a thing, Compainies like Rogers will finad another way to screw you like they have done for years.”

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/01/cwta-wireless-code-conduct.html

 

 How basically absurd in the first place.   The companies were by law already not allowed to change the terms of a SIGNED contract but yet they did anyway. All just ” More PR and BS!” Also ” Rogers is the worst culprit for their unrelenting repetitive telemarketing calls.” ” Just all more manure  to keep the related incompetent civil and public servants looking busy”. Cellular firms get new customer rules but they still have not honoured all the old ones.. Canada’s mobile phone companies will be required to make sure consumers understand their contracts when they buy a cellphone under a new code of conduct but will the phone companies next fully honour the same contracts? Unlikley. 

 

This code of conduct in a very short while even  next was already abused, misused by Rogers.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/about-time-big-3-put-into-their-place-bell-rogers-and-telus/

 

 There also have been well-publicized stories about users who fully befdorehand  didn’t understand the terms of their bills when it cames to text messaging or downloading movies or music and  they thus ended up with monthly bills costing thousands of dollars.  Horror stories have often already abounded about customers with unexpectedly very high cell phone bills due to a carrier over charging, or  customers being lied to,  misinformed ,  never originally being fully communicated when signing their original contract, promsied servcies not even delivered fully.  The supposedly new  supported code of conduct is now supposedly designed to help all of the wireless subscribers now understand all of their bills better, including the actual terms of service, contract agreements and advertising promises, all which  would not be even required, applicable if  all of the firm and employees  of these firms were honest in reality in the first place. The too often liars and bad employees are not about to stop their wrong doing because of a supposed new code very likely. The liars in the firms, elsewhere in rality  they all do need to be fired from their jobs firstly instead. Unless you do that all you have now is just another farcical merry go round.  Thus unkept promises, unenforced  and inadequate regulating of these firms is still the major bad problem. These are mostly the same firms, ISPs for the most part that had before  lied to us all already about their poor Internet services too. Now they  resolve your complaints efficiently, fairly and courteously? Ha, ha, ha,  rather they will find rather a buck passing way, false  excuse why they cannot help you in reality, as I have recently  experienced now too. PR is still mostlty lies these days. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/

 

Most Consumer advocates don’t think much of the new code. A code of conduct adopted by Canada’s cell phone service providers is a political answer that doesn’t address real consumer concerns, another competent  critic now has still charged .The code will be administered by the useless, pretentious  Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services, a body set up two years ago by the industry to negotiate disputes between customers and companies.    

 

In its first year, 2007-08,  CCTS was still unable able to resolve about 40  per cent, of the complaints according to its own website. What a very high failure rate.  About one-third of the complaints were related to wireless services. 40  per cent, that is about the number of unhappy Customers with Bell’s Internet services too

  

Telecommunications analyst Eamon Hoey of Hoey Associates said the code is meaningless.“There’s nothing impressive about a code of conduct,” he said. “This is just a way of smoothing over the obvious. They haven’t served their customers very well. Now they’re coming in with a political solution to what should be a customer solution.”Hoey said the litany of complaints about cellphone service in Canada includes “astronomical” base fees, lengthy contracts that are expensive to get out of, poor coverage outside of cities, charges for services such as 911 that may not be available, add-ons such as system access fees and problems with roaming charges. http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/Code+conduct+phone+service+providers+nothing+impressive/1951350/story.html

 

I heard firsthand one teenager saying to another teenager “I cannot trust you, you lie to me all the time” and this next had made me reflect upon the reality that the average person lies 3 times in every ten minutes of conversation, and it also reminded me with my past years of undeniable dealing with Bell related to my internet download problems, they too had lied to me all the time, by not admitting the truth first that there was a problem, nor next honestly admitting the cause of the problem. It seems that spin doctoring, misleading, lying to others is a very major part of not just the lawyers, used car salesmen, but a regular part of the sales, advertising, corporate way of doing business with consumers these days Canada wide now as well. I too at least am known for telling the truth and that is worth much too. Bell is a known liar and that is not worth much.. The big corporates do prefer no outside regulating bodies, they want to to deal with each customer individually, divide and conquer approach, for they are afraid of massive class action suits, and there are many now against Bell even.

 
Look I have rightfully hundreds of time to the government, on the net, to the news media already have said that Bell is undeniably, unacceptable too, a bad big despotic control freak, monopolistic, immoral, deceptive in reality, practice, and in reality Bell itself does not honour the normal, decent laws, rules, regulations. Bell solely is a dictator that wants all others to play by it’s own rules. Bell does not know how to respect, keep, honour the terms of it’s contractual obligations to it’s own customers, immoral Bell rather likes to rewrite the contract continuously, one sided so that it is always better solely for Bell.

Well even if Bully abusive Bell falsely under the guise of profitability, competitiveness, making more profit or whatever, now still thinks it is a big, large, established firm, corporation that does not have to play by the established rules, rather it can make it’s own rules. I on behalf of all Canadian, Bell’s customers even now, I am rightfully asking nevertheless that the federal government, prime Minister Stephen Harper and his cabinet exemplary force Bell to respect the laws of decency, norms, the established regulations and to even regulate next rightfully Bell much more so that bad Bell definitely stops being guilty of it’s undeniable false misleading advertising practices, unfair and restrictive trade practices for the good of all Canadians now as well , not just for the good of Bell.

Imagine that Bell has been in Business for many years and was, is still too often, wrongfully guilty now clearly of misleading advertisements, fraudulent and unacceptable business practices, not living up to their contractual obligations, as I now have PERSONALLY WITNESSED, EXPERIENCED and undeniably detailed to even Bell and many others and many times too now . I had Paid for a high speed unlimited download service but that is not what I got next. I got low internet speed at a high price. With Bell you have to check your actual delivered speeds , “internet download and upload speed test” continually too cause Bell wrongfully seems always to change it to suit themselves..

Quebec to end automatic cell phone contract renewals, surprise fees and what about the Internet service providers, who are the same firms doing the same bad things there too to the customers, well?

“Quebec to end automatic cellphone contract renewals, surprise fees CBC.ca – The Quebec government has tabled legislation to better protect consumers in the province when they sign cellphone contracts. Justice Minister Kathleen Weil said laws aimed at protecting cellphone users were written in the early 1970s and don’t address current consumer habits. She said Bill 60, introduced Tuesday, would revise outdated rules. There can be “very onerous penalty fees” to pull out of a contract once a service provider automatically renews it – usually for a period lasting three years, Weil said. The bill would prohibit the renewal of cellphone contracts without a customer’s written approval, she said. It would also force merchants to disclose the total cost of the goods and services offered, a move Weil said should prevent customers from being caught off guard by hefty fees for services they don’t want, such as text messaging. In addition, companies won’t be able to suddenly increase fees during the life of the contract. “Consumers often don’t understand everything that they have agreed to when they’ve signed that contract,” the minister said. “The contracts are a little vague, and there are services that are added over time without their knowledge and without their consent.” “The first thing that [merchants] do is offer you a free cellphone, and it’s sort of the lure that gets you into that relationship,” Weil told reporters. Merchants will have to explain existing warranty protection Weil said the new law would make it illegal for merchants to sell extended warranties before telling customers what the manufacturer already offers for warranty protection. It would also put an end to expiry dates on prepaid cellphone gift cards. The minister said the bill, amending the province’s Consumer Protection Act, would correct an imbalance in an evolving industry. “In consumer protection you often have an imbalance that happens over time and in the whole field of telecommunications. There is not a jurisdiction in North America that hasn’t noticed this imbalance.” Michel Arnold, head of the non-profit consumer rights group Option consommateurs, said Quebec is the first jurisdiction in the country to introduce this kind of consumer protection. Weil said officials in the province receive nearly 700 formal complaints about cellphone contracts each year – about 10 per cent of all consumer complaints – as well as thousands of inquiries. Bill 60 is expected to be adopted before the end of the year.

and what about in the rest of Canada too? Bell Changing horses, making changes, additions to the contract in midstream is invalid, a breach, still not allowed, especially without the subsequent, and pre consent, approval of both parties now still too and is a breach of contract rather. That includes Bell capping of my bit torrent downloads too on my unlimited download account

Now in my decades of real life experiences in Canada the existing laws, regulating societies, governments clearly did not stop many Realtors, lawyers or even now Bell Sympatico from telling lies to the customers, others. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/misapplications-of-the-laws-in-canada/

With Bell you have to check your actual delivered speeds , “internet download and upload speed test” cause Bell seems to change it to suit themselves.. (Presently I am with Acanac Inc. http://www.acanac.ca 1-866-281-3538, and do see their speed test too).

Now this mis-advertisement of the actual speeds attained also reflects the common problem we tend to have also in Canada with the false, misleading advertising, trade practices by Bell, Rogers, Videotron in regard to the speeds of their iphone and DSL, ADSL, cable internet services. These Communication, ISP firms amongst others are known to inflate, advertise substantially higher speeds than the consumer will actual get next get on the average, and the next related internet congestion cause web connectivity problems, and also reductions of the downloads speeds too.. Over 2M Canadians now have cable based phone. Most of those were former Bell Canada customers.

Bell itself found a an excuse for not performing a specific job assigned to them under the contract agreement but fooled few people in the process now too. One side breaching a contract is a common, often fact of life, very common, and it happens often in in the Computer business, with Internet Service Providers, in Real estate and even with new home contractors now as well sadly, and I have often witnessed it myself.. and pretentious self regulating boards, governments are mostly useless too, and it is basically too costly to get a lawyer, it only makes the lawyer’s richer, so now the best way to deal with any breach of contract is to expose the bad guys to all, to the news media and thus really put them out of business.. and I have done that even with major corporations successfully now too.. ”

Now what about having now the much need real consumer protections for the citizens of Canada here as well from the greedy, lying, no good corporations? The Liberals are just as bad as the Conservatives in not dealing in Canada with the lying, price gouging communication firms..

“Conservative government bows to the wishes of large corporations and ignore consumer protection.” ” Tony Clement, He is protecting the providers of these services, their monopoly and their profits. Never mind the Consumer whom the Office of Consumer Affairs was set up to help. ” ” government is pro-business. And no matter who we vote for, that will remain the same. How many of our government officials actually read our comments. One question, what does ‘lobbying’ actual entails?”

” Tony Clement ..no doubt the Minister’s seats at the Rogers Centre in Toronto and the Bell Centre in Montreal are assured.” ” Tony Clement is not for us. This fellow is definitely not a consumer advocate and to make it quite blunt – he is not for our welfare. We the people need a government which encourages completion and one which tries to hide the oligopolies which really don’t re-invest much into Canada, unlike the US. Perhaps a massive shakeup of our government infrastructure and the ministries is badly needed. We want a complete cleanup from top to bottom ” ” I think we need a complete public audit of exactly where all of our tax money is actually be spent!” http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/688547#

do see also
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/federal-consumer-protection-ha-ha-ha/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/phone-companies-internet-at-disadvantage/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/crtc-is-clearly-in-bells-bad-pocket/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/why-many-businesses-fail
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/deceptive-unacceptable-unfair-business-trade-practices-unreliable-internet-access
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/class-action-suit-against-bell-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/unfair
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/bell-internet
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/bell-bce-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/is-your-isp-still-even-watching-you
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/the-war-against-bell
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/bell-throttles-internet-speeds
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/and
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/bell-lied
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/i-cannot-trust-you-for-you-lie-to-me-all-the-time
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/this-next-was-so-predictable-even-by-me-too

It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers  too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever.

 

FOR WE TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO,  NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON  THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.

 

Federal Consumer protection? Ha ha ha

 

Buyer beware: No laws dictate inspection frequency There are no laws in Canada dictating how often gas pumps must be checked for accuracy, and the government agency that does the inspections is doing fewer every year. http://www2.canada.com/ottawacitizen/features/hosedatthepumps/index.html

Canadian cellphone firms get failing grade  CBC.ca -  Canada’s cellphone companies have racked up close to 2500 complaints in 36 months, earning them all a failing grade from the Better Business Bureau. “An F? You’re being too kind. How about probation and if you’re grades don’t improve you are out.”  The wireless providers are trying to maintain a 40% profit margin on their expenditures. this is not acceptable for a service that is an essential communication. They have the worst networks and the highest rates in the world, THE SAME GOES FOR INTERNET SERVICE! “The terms can change at any time if you’re on a contract as well! Bell and Rogers have both raised prices, added fees, and modified service while I was on a long-term contract. “

The governments promise consumer protection, they have a department for it as well,they  take tax dollars for this service too, but it still is mostly a pretentious, unenforced  department that cops out with “buyers beware” and we need more such liars, abusers now too?

Many many people who use computers heavily now are upset, not the politicians though and why is that? Many people are upset that there email has slowed down, their downloads have also slowed down, but not most of the politicians now and why is that still too? They mostly still don’t use the computer, all they care about wrongfully is their money, their income it seems. They the politicians tell you they care about you only at election time and in reality really act like they do not give a dam about you the rest of the time. That is why this post is so popular  cause it tells the whole truth to all.

“Ottawa killed cellphone cost calculator. A well-known challenge faced by millions of Canadians as they sort through a myriad of cellphone pricing plans in a marketplace still lacking in robust competition.  Industry Canada officials identified the same problem and worked for years to develop an online tool to address it. After spending tens of thousands of dollars creating and testing an online calculator designed to help consumers select their ideal wireless plan, Industry Minister Tony Clement killed the project weeks before it was scheduled to launch.” 

 

“No surprise to Ontario readers……to hear that Tony Clement killed off a program meant to help consumers and that he kowtowed to big business (read: friends and contributors) to do it. His history as an MPP and now MP hardly suggest otherwise. Meanwhile, there is no ‘competition’ between wireless providers, only collusion, so any effort to make the labyrinth of Plans open and more understandable (especially in an industry that otherwise neither the government or CRTC say they wish to govern) would have seemed a noble effort by Industry Canada. ” ” Tony Clement is not for us… This fellow is definitely not a consumer advocate and to make it quite blunt – he is not for our welfare. We the people need a government which encourages completion and one which tries to hide the oligopolies which really don’t re-invest much into Canada, unlike the US. Perhaps a massive shakeup of our government infrastructure and the ministries is badly needed. We want a complete cleanup from top to bottom “  ” I think we need a complete public audit of exactly where all of our tax money is actually be spent!”

 

” The duopoly of Bell-Solo-Telus and Rogers-Fido are hiding real costs behind marketing double-speak, and its the lack of competition that is to blame. You know the “Nutrition Facts” on every food item? We need one for cell phones that tells us the access fee, long distance rates, text charges, etc. “ ”It’s not just cell phones. It’s cable, internet, phone and long distance plans, dishwashers and other appliances, cars, hydro, banks, investment opportunities. In short, it’s life in a capitalist society. It’s not so much that we have too much choice; it’s that we have too much ‘structured’ choice (Rogers calls them bundles) wherein you can never get what want, much less what you need:”

 

“Conservative government bows to the wishes of large corporations and ignore consumer protection.” ” Tony Clement, He is protecting the providers of these services, their monopoly and their profits. Never mind the Consumer whom the Office of Consumer Affairs was set up to help. ” “    government is pro-business. And no matter who we vote for, that will remain the same. How many of our government officials actually read our comments. One question, what does ‘lobbying’ actual entails?”

 

” Tony Clement ….no doubt the Minister’s seats at the Rogers Centre in Toronto and the Bell Centre in Montreal are assured.”

Check out   http://www.cellphones.ca/       for a   comparison/information website.
http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/688547#

 

 

LIBERAL government of Quebec to end automatic cell phone contract renewals, surprise fees  and what about the Internet service  providers, who are the same firms doing the same bad things there too to the customers, well?

    

and what about in the rest of Canada too?

 

SEE ALSO

 http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/phone-companies-internet-at-disadvantage/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/liars-abound-still/

Quebec to end automatic cellphone contract renewals, surprise fees CBC.ca -  The Quebec government has tabled legislation to better protect consumers in the province when they sign cellphone contracts. Justice Minister Kathleen Weil said laws aimed at protecting cellphone users were written in the early 1970s and don’t address current consumer habits. She said Bill 60, introduced Tuesday, would revise outdated rules. There can be “very onerous penalty fees” to pull out of a contract once a service provider automatically renews it — usually for a period lasting three years, Weil said. The bill would prohibit the renewal of cellphone contracts without a customer’s written approval, she said.  It would also force merchants to disclose the total cost of the goods and services offered, a move Weil said should prevent customers from being caught off guard by hefty fees for services they don’t want, such as text messaging. In addition, companies won’t be able to suddenly increase fees during the life of the contract. “Consumers often don’t understand everything that they have agreed to when they’ve signed that contract,” the minister said. “The contracts are a little vague, and there are services that are added over time without their knowledge and without their consent.” “The first thing that [merchants] do is offer you a free cellphone, and it’s sort of the lure that gets you into that relationship,” Weil told reporters. Merchants will have to explain existing warranty protection Weil said the new law would make it illegal for merchants to sell extended warranties before telling customers what the manufacturer already offers for warranty protection. It would also put an end to expiry dates on prepaid cellphone gift cards. The minister said the bill, amending the province’s Consumer Protection Act, would correct an imbalance in an evolving industry. “In consumer protection you often have an imbalance that happens over time and in the whole field of telecommunications. There is not a jurisdiction in North America that hasn’t noticed this imbalance.” Michel Arnold, head of the non-profit consumer rights group Option consommateurs, said Quebec is the first jurisdiction in the country to introduce this kind of consumer protection. Weil said officials in the province receive nearly 700 formal complaints about cellphone contracts each year — about 10 per cent of all consumer complaints — as well as thousands of inquiries. Bill 60 is expected to be adopted before the end of the year.

 

LIBERAL Quebec Government Proposes Regulation of Cell Phone Contracts Teleclick.ca;

Bill 60 makes it easier to break phone contracts The Gazette (Montreal) ; CJAD - CTV Montreal