WE ALREADY ALL CAN KNOW THAT NEW FEDERAL CONSERVATIVES GOVERNMENT TOO LOOK AFTER THE INTERST OF THE BIG GUYS, BIG BUSINESS OVER THE TAX PAYERS. THE CITIZENS. WHAT ABOUT LOOKING FIRST AFTER THE WHOLE GOOD INTERST OF ALL THE CITIZENS AND RIGHTFULLY NOW TOO
While the pretentious Canadian Liberal and Conservatives governments, are presently engulfed in the Quebec mafia scandals too, while they clearly do not care about the average citizens, about their consumer protection, yes the ordinary citizens concerns too, but they all wrongfully it seems to care only about big businesses making more money at any costs, the reality of this is all evident by the fact this page has become the most read post of mine.. and do see also http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/insuring-adequate-consumer-protection/
Canadian broadband blasted by Harvard study CBC.ca - Canada has some of the poorest high-speed internet service in the developed world and is an example of what not to do from a policy perspective, according to a study by Harvard University. Canada was 22nd overall out of 30 countries surveyed by Harvard’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society. Canada ranked 16th on broadband adoption, 20th on speed and capacity, and 25th on price. Japan, Sweden and South Korea headed up Harvard’s rankings, while the United States placed above Canada at 13th overall… we have been paying the big ISPs “boat loads” of money for a decade, yet they have spent little on upgrading and maintaining their networks. with rogers i paid about $50 a month for a 5MB down 800KB up connection which was then traffic shaped down to a 200KB down 50KB up connection; you don’t see a problem with this? this is because rogers, bell, etc. have spent only a fraction of their profits on upgrading their networks. they pocket most of the profits and spend the rest on massive advertising campaigns telling us how great they are. this lack of investment on infrastructure means they are unable to actually provide the speeds which they advertise, hence traffic shaping must be employed… And I always thought that the CRTC was adopted to protect Canadians. I guess the truth is finally coming out. Finally, confirmation that all Canadians are being screwed by the CRTC, cable companies and telco’s. No competition, no choice from tv signal service providers (DTV), dictatorial CRTC regulators, throttled networks and ridiculous pricing is screwed the Canadian consumer out of $$ billions $$ of dollars every year. Excuse me, I have to go now and watch the 500th re-run of Top Gun and Tommy Boy now. Nothing else on. Canadians are being charged for the same unimmaginative repetitious programming over and over and over again. It’s sad, corrupt and theft as far as I’m concerned. Bell Canada bribes customers who threaten to leave. Bell Canada throttles customers (their own AND the Indie ISPs customers). CRTC gave Bell Canada permission to implement Usage Based Billing, not just on their own customers, but on the customers of the Independents. This means the Independent ISPs will only be able to offer Bell Canada pricing. The same service we get now will cost about double when UBB is implemented. Canada will lead the world with the highest priced service. http://stopusagebasedbilling.wordpress.com/
FCC Study: Open Access Spurs Broadband Growth eWeek
WHO REALLY LOOKS AFTER ALL OF THE CITIZENS BEST INTEREST IN REALITY.. CERTAINLY NOT HARPER AND HIS CROONIES!
Canada is far behind the rest of the world in providing affordable broadband to the majority of its populace and here the definition of affordable depends solely on the greedy big 5 Shaw, Rogers, Telus, Bell, Videotron, and it still does not relate to the internet actual service or actual speed now as well. The false, misleading advertised internet service and speeds are still never attained in fact firstly. Canada lags in broadband innovation because the Corporate shareholders are greedy for profits. While the wire line, wireless and satellite broadband is available to most of the country and most subscribers have a choice of only a few providers the prices are clearly rigged, fixed, colluded for they are all nearly the same high prices with the same extras too. They all sleep in the same bed, pig stall, and all try to gouge the customer for all they can Only 70 per cent of households are signed up for broadband. and 30 per cent of Canadian households not on the Internet? Price Affordability…
AS TO WHAT BELL DOES NOT TELL YOU WHEN IT LIES WHEN THEY TRY TO SELL YOU THEIR SERVICES. “Canada has some of the poorest-quality broadband among advanced countries, according to a study of global internet infrastructure. Canada placed 25th out of 34 countries in the University of Oxford’s ranking of innovation economies, far behind top-rated South Korea and just ahead of Australia and the United States. This is because the Companies (Bell & Rogers) are far more interested in profit than service to their CUSTOMERS. No kidding and the CRTC hasn’t been any help whatsoever so what are they there for when they have impeded the country in becoming wired.” This is what happens when something as vital as communication is left to the private sector with it interest in high profits rather than service. A Canada wide hi speed broad band network should be considered in our national interest! Both the Liberals and Conservatives have dropped the ball on this one http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/10/01/broadband-study-oxford-canada-lags.html
Canadian broadband : ISP-funded report. I can not believe the report from the people who cannot straighten out my cable bill after over a *year* of repeated phone calls and escalations and also the people who think it’s OK to charge for incoming text messages, think that system access fees are fair and that 100GB internet usage per month is terribly excessive. This is quite a pathetic attempt to counter the non-biased study done by Oxford. Who do they think is going to fall for this one? “About 30 per cent of households still have not chosen to take up broadband, a phenomenon that the report says cannot be fully explained as of yet.” They can explain it, they just don’t want to say that prices are too high for the crap service they give. If these internet providers had “world-class broadband” there would be no need for their ridiculous traffic shaping practices. So which is it? ‘ll bet the CRTC is backing this study too. We pay more than most other countries for service that doesn’t begin to reach the same speeds. Yea, Rogers started offering 100 MBPS, but actual line tests really provide only 40 MBPS, and the cost is nearly $150/month. Same service in the US is almost half that price. We need some regulation in the market to stop the 2 ISP’s in Canada from continuing to rip us off. In other news… Major IPS firms say Canada is doing very well in broadband availability, AND Tobacco companies say smoking is good for you! THEY BOTH ARE KNOWN TO BE LIARS www.dissolvethecrtc.ca/
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/10/07/broadband-report-isp-bell-rogers-shaw-telus.html
First check your actual ISP speed http://www.acanac.ca/speedtest/ check for the blatant theft-corruption on a daily basis and complain to your ISP
Rogers, Bell, Videotron, Shaw, Telus all only care about one thing.. maximum profits.. motivated by maximum greed.. finding an excuse to charge the customer for more.. and that they have done with their regulating, capping… and no one cares about what the consumer thinks, the Conservatives, Liberals, the CRTC included. Do send a copy to PM@gc.ca
The truth the news media does not publish. A few years ago, Canada was ahead in the internet field. Then Bell and the CRTC sat back and let the world pass us by, while the Conservatives lacked the will, vision to notice, admit this was even a problem. Harper’s Conservatives, DO NOTHING!
Canadians are also now still paying some of the most expensive internet prices in the world. We should be in the Guinness book of records for internet fees. Many say let American companies provide full, unlimited internet services in Canada for under $25.00 a month, provide real competition in this country. We pay way to much for all telecommunications here compared to Europe or almost anywhere. Many see very little difference between the government, CRTC, Bell, Rogers, Telus and organized crime still! “these flipping companies are the same ones who also monopolize telephone, mobile, and television services, and they make BILLIONS a year on them. It’s clear Bell and Telus have friends in the government and CRTC.” Bell I hope all of people now can see how poorly in reality you care about your customers, consumers. There are only 3 general options available from them all to customers , and they’ve all made their plans/deals nearly the same. Yes the same services, same price. That is called price rigging, restricted and unfair business practices, price gouging. Collusion and bribery are only a crimes in other countries; but in Canada, it seems it is considered good business practice in Canada by our law and order federal Conservative government now too. Who is being fooled by all of this now too? Not many Canadians. ”If it wasn’t for the fact I have no choice (either deal with them or be without the services I need) I would have jumped ship quite some time ago. Somebody needs to dismantle these huge corporations who’s monopolies span over SEVERAL INDUSTRIES in order for this to stop. Bell owns TV, Satellite, Mobile, AND internet. And so does Telus in the west.” Do get real competition in Canada now here too. “Get rid of the pimp CRTC who are there only to protect the large telecoms/cable companies not the people.”
Many many people who use computers heavily now are upset, not the politicians though and why is that? Many people are upset that there email has slowed down, their downloads have also slowed down, but not most of the politicians now and why is that still too? They mostly still don’t use the computer, all they care about wrongfully is their money, their income it seems. They the politicians tell you they care about you only at election time and in reality really act like they do not give a dam about you the rest of the time. That is why this post is so popular cause it tells the whole truth to all. All the federal government does is fight amongst themselves about meaningless smear campaigns while the REAL issues of this country, the citizens and their concerns are ignored.
We need “legitimate” regulations. It is pathetic that the likes of Bell, Rogers & Telus only want de-regulation as long as the rules are only in their favour and not rather the citizens, consumers favour.
Australia to split up phone giant Telstra but here in Canada we prop up monopolies. This should have been done with Bell, Roger’s and Telus years ago. Australians are ripped off blind, left right and centre by “Telstra” and it comes from a monopoly who uses police like powers to charge exorbitant rates. Australians are charged outrageous amounts for internet and mobile phone. – the government of Australia exists to benefit the people of Australia, not shareholders of some monopoly. Yes, ending monopolies hurts rich people who benefit from them, so what? That’s not a compelling argument against breaking up the monopoly.,,, imagine if the government legislated Bell, Rogers and Telus into separately owned phone, cell phone, Internet and cable operations? http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/15/australia-government-splitting-telstra.html
MTS Allstream is petitioning the CRTC to scrap an order that will allow Bell Canada to bill internet customers based on how much they download each month. Rogers already does this. I was charged extra for downloading too much on my “Unlimited” account.
MTS, small ISP take internet fight with Bell to court CBC.ca - MTS Allstream and independent broadband provider Acanac are asking a court to overturn a CRTC decision that grants Bell Canada the right to impose new internet charges on wholesale customers. MTS Allstream says the CRTC made an error in law by allowing Bell to charge wholesale internet customers by how much bandwidth they use. In their filing, MTS and Acanac say the CRTC is bound by the Telecommunications Act to ensure that rates for services it regulates are just and reasonable at all times. But since Bell doesn’t have to pay itself those rates, the filing says, they are in fact unfair. MTS and Acanac are part of a campaign started last week to overturn another CRTC decision, which limits wholesale competitors’ access to the broadband infrastructure owned by the likes of Bell and Telus. MTS is looking to have that decision, which the CRTC made last December, overturned by cabinet. The Coalition for Competitive Broadband seeks to muster public support for the appeal, which cabinet must act on by Dec. 11. The government can overturn the CRTC’s decision, and send it back to the regulator for a review, or reject the appeal… The CRTC is beyond corrupt and the Harper government is in the back pocket of the Telcos. Bring on the election so we can take back Canada for the people instead of corporate industry. Harper’s government with the corrupt Tony Clement as Industry Minister is destroying Canada for Canadians. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again!Make this an Election Issue ! sign the petition http://dissolvethecrtc.ca/node/1
Many many people who use computers heavily now are upset, not the government though and why is that? Citizens are naturally here to be abused? Canadians are also now still paying some of the most expensive internet prices in the world. It is unbelievable how the CRTC tries to increase a monopolistic corporate service, rather with a no win solution..
The government of Australia works to split up phone giant Telstra but here in Canada we prop up monopolies. A split up in Canada should have been done with Bell, Roger’s and Telus years ago. yes the government exists to benefit the people and not shareholders of some monopoly. Yes, ending the monopolies hurts solely the rich people who benefit from them, so what? That’s not a compelling argument against breaking up the monopoly. Imagine if the government now had rightfully legislated Bell, Rogers and Telus into separately owned phone, cell phone, Internet and cable operations?
That is the negative realty of these relationships as well MTS Allstream and independent broadband provider Acanac cannot provide real positive services to the consumer in the first place, cause they are at the mercy of Bell or Telus. Any customer of ACANAC has to still deal with Bell and Bell can still lie again, by saying the whole problem is in Acanac’s supplied modem, when it is not for sure.. Bell now itself had previously changed my modem 8 times and I still had bad download capacity , and so Bell also refuses falsely to deal with the problem, and basically all ACANAC can do now mainly is still nothing? Just like big bad Bell mostly did as well..
Any buck passing, false diversionary proposed solutions by anyone in reality have clearly nothing to do with the clearly evident, stated problem of Bell’s oresent traffic shaping and Traffic capping..
My related years of experience tells me that again too.. posting my complaint in full next on the net for all to read seems to work better next.. some how this always gets them all motivated to actually deal with it.. funny! A bad usless Conservative MP now is no use to us anymore than a bad usless Liberal MP too..
CRTC not enforcing internet ruling A CRTC order issued nine months ago that requires phone companies to give wholesale customers access to faster internet speeds is in limbo as the regulator is still puzzling out whether or not it should be enforced. The order, issued on Dec. 11, 2008 in response to a complaint from Cybersurf, a small internet provider based in Calgary, required big phone firms such as Bell and Telus to make all the internet speeds they offer to retail customers available to wholesale companies as well, if requested. Those wholesale companies, which are typically smaller internet providers such as Cybersurf, Teksavvy and Acanac, rent parts of the phone firms’ networks to provide their own customers with service. The CRTC gave the phone firms 45 days from the issuing of that order to file the fees they intended to charge wholesale companies for the faster speeds. The prices were to reflect the actual cost of the service, plus a reasonable markup. The CRTC has received at least two separate requests to obtain a court order to enforce its decision and is effectively giving Bell and Telus a free pass, he added. The regulator, however, doesn’t want to take the matter to the courts until it rules on requests from Bell and Telus for a stay on the order. “We’d rather deal with the stay before going into enforcement,” Carmel said. Chris Peirce, head of regulatory affairs for MTS, said the CRTC is showing a pattern of giving in to “bullying” from the likes of Bell and Telus. This is simply one more proof that CRTC is a complete failure. Telco’s that won’t supply equal speeds for resellers should be sued. There’s no need for a CRTC ruling. The CRTC seems woefully technically incapable of understanding the very industry they are regulating. This leaves them open to the usual snowjob by big telco. One more reason that some radical but necessary change is required at this commission. Solution is simple. Write the rules of the game (price with corresponding service value) and enforce them by reasonable date: January 01, March 31 or June 30, 2010. Claim by Bell and Telus that destruction of small ISP’s is required in order to compete with Cable companies may be true if not for a fact that Cable companies also must provide access to their networks to small ISP’s. Destroying small ISP’s will only slow the development of new technologies and would surely lead to increase of prices to the end user. Australia just forced Telstra (their equivalent of Bell) to break up its wholesale and retail operations to stop exactly this kind of bullsh*t. We should do the same. Oh, and Rogers too. CRTC’s role as a regulator looking out for the public’s interest, but that support is now fading fast. Right now, you are giving Bell the opportunity to use predatory tactics to protect its de facto monopoly, you seem to have no respect for the standard of net neutrality (with your support of throttling practices), and you are allowing mobile phone companies to charge the highest rates in the world. What is the CRTC doing to help the Canadian Public? Nothing! Why make rules if they are not enforced? Disband the CRTC now. It does absolutely nothing in the way of helping consumers. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/16/crtc-internet-matching-speeds-bell-telus.html
Many Other citizens have agreed with the truths that I have written even that the ISP providers themselves are the main reasons the internet is congested and that they the ISPs are also guilty of false, misleading advertising to get customers too. “They would rather lower your speeds than spend the cash to upgrade their crappy networks and just bank the cash as profit.” I have often wondered as to why so many communication corporations are so stupid unrealistically gambling, thinking they can abuse their customers and they will come back for more? Believe me most customers will do without next or look for a better alternative instead.
The Conservative Government and the CRTC has obviously lost touch with the people they’re supposed to represent and the people they’re supposed to regulate. They are clearly in Bell’s pocket and likely just as much in Rogers’ pocket. They not only need to be knocked down a peg, but removed entirely from the equation. Do these Bell crooks expect us to forget that the TAXPAYER paid for this infrastructure ages ago, only to have the big business flunkies in gov’t sell it to private interest for a song? Do they also think we are so stupid not to know that most of problems we’re having now stem from spending money on shareholder profits INSTEAD of upgrading said infrastructure? Upcoming election who and what now? Which one of the candidates is making a stand on this? Canada is one of the most expensive place on the planet for cell phone and internet access. this must change. The solution: 1. Regulate internet access price 2. Nationalize ALL telcom infrastructure (phone line and cable) 3. Resell access to ISP, everyone get the price
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/10/mts-internet-providers-campaign-bell-telus.html
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/10/mts-internet-providers-campaign-bell-telus.html
“The CRTC is reviewing its oversight of basic telecommunications services and is calling on the public to suggest what it should require of providers.” How about: Inexpensive - like the rest of the planet . ” Internet access should certainly be considered an essential service. Force telecoms to offer dry DSL in that you do not require a phone account to get internet service. How accessible can the internet be when low income individuals and families also need to bear the brunt of monthly phone access in addition to the internet fees?” ” would like the same products available to me, that my friends in the states have. For the same pricing structure. Currently I get about 60 channels, including 15 HD channels, 4 HD movie channels. My buddy in the states gets 240 channels, including 90 HD channels, 27 HD movie channels, he also gets every NFL and NHL game in HD. He pays about half what I do. For much much, more service. I have the shaw hd pvr box, which cost me over $700. Shaw requires you to use their box only. My friend in Seattle has a similar box, with more hard drive space. His was free when he got cable. ” Disband the CRTC. CRTC should be representing the needs of Canadian Citizens instead of big powerful telecommunications giants. The CRTC has historically sided with industry over public good, and fairness in the marketplace, even as recently as last week.. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/09/11/crtc-basic-services-phone-internet.html
“The real problem is greed. The companies who own the infrastructure refuse to pay the money necessary to upgrade it and they can get away with it because of their monopoly status and the pro-business CRTC. Canada has one of the worse internet networks in the world. Below are excerpts from this site: http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=945
Canada is relatively expensive by OECD standards, ranking 14th for monthly subscription costs at $45.65 (U.S.) per month.
Not only is the Canadian Internet relatively expensive, it is also comparatively slow, ranking 24th out of the 30 OECD countries.
Moreover, the speed gap between Canada and most of the OECD appears to be growing. The fastest consumer speeds often come from fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) services that are commonplace in countries like Japan (48 per cent of consumers) and Korea (43 per cent of consumers), but virtually non-existent in Canada. In fact, the OECD placed Canada’s FTTH penetration at zero per cent.
When price and speed are combined, Canada sinks toward the very bottom of the OECD rankings. As measured by price per megabyte – effectively the price for speed – Canada ranks 28th out of 30 countries, ahead of only Mexico and Poland. This may be the most telling metric, since it confirms that Canadians pay more for less.”
“Bell, Rogers, Shaw et al actually want to throttle the free market. They – being big hypocritical “free enterprisers” – prefer monopolistic practices. How come Bell sends me junk mail boasting about it’s new fiber optic capability in my area , all the while clamping my Primus internet service at 180Kbs. How come Bell’s CTV promotes it’s on-line TV streaming, while Bell clamps internet bandwidth. Can you say “conflict of interest”? How come 360 Networks and other layers of fiber optics went bankrupt due to “over building” and surplus bandwidth capacity of fiber? Where did it go?If Bell et al can’t keep up with the demand for bandwidth then get the hell out of the business! Break the monopolies!”
“Well gee whiz, if there’s too heavy a load on the service maybe the service providers should spend the money they collect from their customers to upgrade their equipment to increase the flow of traffic. Supply and demand am I right? Instead of sitting there and throttling us and limiting our access and capping us and lolly gagging on keeping their tech up to date. The longer they wait to upgrade this technology (which I seem to recall the Government helped Bell quite a bit for the money to put them in there in the first place) the more expensive it is going to be to pay for it’s construction.”
“I agree wholeheartedly ..- it’s the IP’s responsibility to upgrade their end of things to reduce congestion, and punishing certain users seems petty. “
” it’s not fair these internet companies have too much power, there should be no “throttling” going on I pay $50 a month!”
“Sandvine is a company which produces packet sniffing software or software which invades your privacy on the internet. Of course this CEO of Sandvine is on the side of NON-NET-NEUTRALITY because he is trying to sell a product to the ISPS to invade your privacy and throttle your connection. I wouldn’t shed a tear if Sandvine went bankrupt! This guy is just another lobbyist whispering in the ear of the CRTC and politicians and trying to degrade citizens rights for the almighty corporate dollar. Net-Neutrality DOES exist and it should be every Canadian’s right. www.saveournet.ca“
“What a load of BS! CRTC is clueless when it comes to radio and television, never mind internet.
“The BEAN counters will be in the back room checking to see how they can squeeze another 2 cents out of any decision coming from this meeting.”
:…see how internet throttling will affect you and the rest of us law abiding citizens. Television programming is already moving on-line. How do you think throttling your service is going to affect you when you’re trying surf your internet based TV programming? Or perhaps you want some internet provider telling you – you can’t watch because “your family has exceeded its program viewing limit, please insert VISA or MC number to continue”? “
“Make no mistake about it: these companies merely want to charge you more for what your doing on the tx lines WE TAXPAYERS built for them. That is all this is about, not congestion or clogging or the poor movie studios loss of funds..like bell pays Mirimax some of its extra profit..not likely….Don’t Let them handcuff the internet.”
“Canada’s telecommunications regulators (CRTC) is a board of ‘industry representatives’ who use the board to get what they want. Televised entertainment is moving to the internet, and these people on the board know it. Expect soon for the Canadian consumer to get screwed once again, through the actions of Canada’s governing board, the CRTC”
” Providers are to be allowed only to advertise their LOWEST speed. That is, if a 1 Mbit DSL connection is throttled back to 5 kb/s for certain protocols, the provider is ONLY allowed to advertise it as a 5 kb/s connection.”
” If we apply their (ISP’s) logic to telephone companies – we would probably have a serious shortage of phone numbers and no new area codes either, and we would be forced to restrict the amount of time we spend on the phone, just because there aren’t enough lines available for everyone.”
“ My neighbourhood is serviced by a telephone cable which was installed in 1960 – nearly 50 years ago. It is old, it is waterlogged, and it is not reliable above 1 Mb. The speed limitations needed for sharing are imposed, not by throttling, but by the ancient cable with constantly changing characteristic impedance, and the inevitable reflections and packet errors. The problem is exasperated by being 4.5 km from the bell station. And it is exasperated by rubber-loving neighbourhood squirrels. The lack of reliability wastes network time and resources. Imagine the improved traffic if Bell would give us fiber-to-the-home. For a 10+Mb connection, I would willingly help pay the installation. But Bell seems technologically inbred.”
“It’s time for our ISP’s to refund us for the speed that they claim to provide but we are unable to get. Let’s see… I should be getting “up to” 10 Mbps and I am only seeing 500 Kbps… it’s time for Rogers to cough up! Anything less than 80% of their claim should be considered as misleading the customer and the ISP should be held accountable for this infraction.”
” A fully utilized link can ultimately start to drop packets, happens all the time, If too much demand is placed on it. Yes, there is a buffer but that buffer has a finite size. Also, if I am a small ISP and I have purchased a 10M link from a telco, most likely the telco will place a policer on that interface so that if I try to send more than 10M they will simply start discarding traffic I send them in excess of the bandwidth I purchased. This is another reason why packets get discarded all the time, especially with TCP sessions as they will keep trying to increase the window size until segments stop getting through. Hence the classic steep rising curve/drop off diagram that repeats over and over.”
“ Bell and Rogers: And we want billions in profit without spending on infrastructure. We both can’t get what we want here. So.. we are just going to do what we want. ”
- CRTC Neutrality hearings begin with conflicting claims that their exists adequate capacity by the ISP, or they do really lack capacities, to allow everyone unrestricted, unhindered download access presently?
- CRTC to look now at how Internet traffic is managed to avoid congestion- Secondly Bell Canada’s major ISP ongoing lying distortion to the news media, CRTC, others , undeniable breach of their past contractual obligations to it’s own customers too, that their need for capping the internet downloads was due to the internet congestion traffic it now still faces as an internet service provider is now due solely to the vast P2P , Torrent, downloads is still a A FALSEHOOD, A FALSE SCAPEGOAT, A LIE AND NOT THE REALITY, NOT THE TRUE FACTS. In fact BASICALLY Bell’s congestion problem was due to BELL’S OWN FAULT, due to the fact that Bell had lied, and had oversold FROM THE START, INITIALLY their OWN internet capabilities services to ALL OF it’s customers, others. Because Bell NOW even had obtained many of it’s customers under lies, false statements, false pretence, Bell also now should not even be allowed to keep all of it’s own customers it now had obtained as well. Bell’s congestion problem was initially, undeniably, really due to the truth that it’s own internet system initially were never adequately, fully designed, upgraded to be used as a high speed internet system to all the customers as advertised, rather Bell’s ISP in general was and it is still mainly a low speed internet system Canada wide. Bell needs to be forced to disclose fully, in the truth to all persons in Canada about it’s actual internet capabilities, even telecommunications, iPhone in all areas now as well. You really cannot continue to grow a business based on lies, distortions, falsehoods, even if it is Bell. Additionally Bell monopolistically, falsely is capping all of the internet downloads is to allow the future expansion usages of iphones, and for downloading of customers movies rented from Bell. “Maybe the CRTC should hire someone who is an expert in internet traffic management to advise them on what’s what, rather than hearing from ISPs, who have their own welfare in mind.”
“Toronto-based technology consultant Jason Roks said new applications that consume more bandwidth are constantly being developed, and that’s a long-term problem that throttling certain applications won’t solve. He said the real issue is ISPs are overselling their networks. If they can’t afford to upgrade their networks to support that many customers at advertised speeds, they should let customers go, he argued.Mezei said many ISPs advertise theoretical maximum speeds that they can’t actually support. The CRTC should force them instead to publish their actual speeds, including those during throttling.” If they were forced to advertise that, you might find throttled speed would go up and the congestion problem would disappear”
Undeniably a lot of people do hate Bell, many past Bell dissatisfied customers who also do undeniably also vent their anger at the government’s, CRTC past and present poor inactions here too.
” w about just giving me what I pay for. How can our government let them charge us for a service and then not provide that service?”
“Internet throttling benefits customers: Rogers, Shaw – I cannot help but notice that Big Business in Canada wants ALL the power. Power to limit what Consumers can and cannot access on the Internet. They throttle our speeds at their whim, they want to inspect every data packet we upload or download and they want to make criminals out of us all, while at the same time charging us extra money to purchase blank media for copying . Yet at the same time they fill our inboxes with Spam. 9 out of every 10 emails I get are Spam trying to sell me something or con me out of my money. They fill websites with Bots to follow every click of our mouse to “better tailor our individual likes & dislikes”, while completely removing our right to privacy without threat to prosecution or fines. We have far too much to lose people if we let these Corporate archaic monopolistic behemoths win this one.”
Of course the Rogers would say this. Their only interest is controlling access, gouging customers, lying about speeds, eliminating competition and holding onto their monopoly. Anything a Telco/ISP has to say should immediately be taken as the exact opposite of what is good for the consumer. We need Net Neutrality and we need it RIGHT NOW! Get involved at SaveOurNet.ca
“The CRTC and the industry had better sort this dog and pony show out pretty quick. This is bordering on the absurd. With technology advancing the way it is (new HDTVs have built-in ethernet ports for on screen, direct surfing!) I’m sure these guys are crying the blues while they are counting their money. Give me a break! These ISP services can manage the traffic (it’s all satellite beams and fibre optic) so no one can tell me that a light beam is slow. No one can tell me that the modern computer (which is faster than most people need) get bogged down. The ISPs are creating their own ‘crisis’ so they can justify price increases. What we need is some good, old fashioned COMPETITION.”
“Bell is well over its glory days, and comparing to other operators around the world, it is a mediocre buy at that price. they have been caught sleeping at the wheel too often and not being fair to its customers too often too. They should do their homework first, build on solid ’sound’ principles first and then see if somebody is willing to put money into it. For now it is simply a purchase of a skeleton out of tune with the industry and a history of burning up good Canadian talent at the expense of the shareholders, and at contempt for the bona fide user. Bell go back to your core business and do a good job and then its time will come. I am glad I own no teachers fund equity.”
“I see Bell Canada as an out-of-date behemoth. I recently paid my last ever bill to Bell Canada something I vowed to do in 1999 after realizing just how bad my Bell Canada abuse their land line customers. Recently, at long last, my internet provide, a cable co. began to offer phone over cable in my area. ‘
Bell have two very odd charges that add up to a lot of money. And at that, they are of course taxed making it worse 1) Network Access Fee. What is this? Why do we have to pay a fee to access the service that is offered as the landline. This is simply a naked cash grab 2) Touch Tone fee of $2.80. Bell Canada’s switches have been “modernized” for over 20 years where the switch circuit can equally take pulse (rotary dial) and tone dialing. Whether you operate a touchtone phone or a rotary dial, it makes absolutely no cost difference to Bell Canada. However, where about 13 M Canadian lines are paying touch-tone service, this amounts to a naked cash grab of $500 M per year for Bell Canada. My Bell Canada landline was $28.69 with Bell Canada. My Videotron cable phone is $16.95 for identical level of service. That works out to a hair under $160/year with taxes.
Over 2 M Canadians now have cable based phone. Most of those were former Bell Canada customers.
I will not miss Bell Canada at all. The Ontario Teachers’ Pension Fund should look very carefully at what it is that they are buying.”
I will not miss Bell Canada at all. The Ontario Teachers’ Pension Fund should look very carefully at what it is that they are buying.”
- CRTC to look at how Internet traffic is managed to avoid congestion – THE TRUTH, REALITY? is that this hearing is a farce.
Almost since my first job after graduating from university I had learned that people are not to be trusted, need to be supervised, and corruption still exists in construction, universities, municipalities, governments, corporations, amongst professionals and politicians as well.
The federal, provincial governments, the CRTC, Conservatives, Liberals unfairly maintaining archaic, monopolistic telecommunication firms, that are often bloated, cost ineffective, incompetent, over staffed, un-competitively managed as well is the main reasons consumer costs falsely keep on going up now.
Dissolve the CRTC
Sat, 08/15/2009 -
Dear Minister of Industry,
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) was created for the purpose of ensuring broadcasting and telecommunications systems serve the Canadian public and ensure that Canadians have a wide variety of options to create and view works of media or communicate across the country and the entire world.
We, the undersigned, believe that the CRTC has become a burden on the Canadian public and are failing to perform their duties in the interest of the Canadian public and that of a fair and unbiased telecom policy.
In the last 3 years, we have seen the CRTC give undue preference in the interest of commercial entities and their preference for traditional business models over competing models that would create competition and help ensure that new business models can be created to entice and prosper original Canadian productions.
In the case of Bell Canada vs CAIP, involving the use of deep packet inspection (DPI) on Bell wholesale clients, the CRTC ruled in favor of Bell Canada to allow them to continue the use of deep packet inspection activities on wholesale customers without their permission or consent regardless of the implications for the end user customers. We believe this action greatly impacts the Canadian public’s choices, competition in the broadband market and may violate privacy laws based on the Privacy Commissioners findings.
In the case of Cybersurf requesting to match speeds of that for Bell retail customers, the CRTC ordered Bell Canada to produce a new tariff to match speeds for wholesale customers. Bell submitted a revised tariff to the CRTC, however the revised tariff did not fulfill the requirements as set out by the CRTC in Telecom Decision CRTC 2008-117. Bell proposed to offer lower speed tiers and introduce UBB (usage base billing) in lieu of matching speeds. The CRTC decided to accept the tariff on an interim basis with no logical explanation. This is not only anti-competitive but shows a clear bias towards Bell Canada.
These are only two of several instances in the past few years that show the CRTC is incapable of upholding the telecom act and the interest of the Canadian public. We demand that the commission is immediately dissolved and a new commission created and appointed based on the following criteria:
1) The commission members must not be appointed solely based on their career history
2) The commission members must not only be comprised of ex-telecom employees
3) The commission should be more transparent to the Canadian public about regulatory issues
4) The analysts should be more involved in the regulatory process to ensure that decisions are handed down in a fair and balanced manner
We hereby request that the CRTC be dissolved and a new commission formed immediately to ensure that the regulatory process and competitive environment remain in tune with the needs of the Canadian public.
Sincerely,
The undersigned
Sign the petition!
http://dissolvethecrtc.ca/node/1
(AND TELL THEM PLEASE DO NOT SPAM, SEND OTHERS ANY UNREQUESTED EMAILS.. )
Here still is what I cannot understand about the federal job creation programs carried out under both the liberal and conservative governments, is the necessity it seems to give money firstly to the municipalities, as though they have a direct effect on voters.. Nothing can be farther from the truth for neither the police themselves, nor the municipalities have a significant vote as to how the citizens will vote on election days. The only group that can likely have any effect on the voters are pastors, and priests in fact.
Here is what I know for sure in Canada proper policing, management , supervision human rights commissions are a real fact of life, society, in schools, life, in churches, governments, commerce, institutions, civil and public services, professional services too, and elsewhere, even on the net, for you will always have those 30 percent at least of the persons who will try to cheat, lie , steal, bend the rules, falsely believe they are above the laws, Self regulation alone is too often pretentious, farcical, often not applied as well. That applies especially to the professionals, civil and public services, police, municipalities, politicians now as well..
Now as I was reflecting about my many past posts on the net in the last few years I was really saddened to note that too many of them were about bad , greedy people trying to steal , trying to get other people’s money for themselves, stealing the money, or getting it under false pretences. The love of more money is still the basis of what many of the wrong doings is, was all about..(Eccl 8:11 KJV) Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
I was also very sad to note as to how many evangelical, Christian pastors, politicians falsely approve of drinking alcohol even though their real Christian colleagues preach against it.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/alcoholic/ http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/alcoholism-the-unacceptable-sin/
It has always confounded me as to why the liars, crooks, deceivers, abusers too often do still do think they can get away with now, next and forever.
FOR WE TEND TO KNOW THAT THEY THE CROOKS, ABUSERS TOO, NOW ARE NOT ABOUT TO STOP THEIR WRONG DOINGS. RATHER THEY WILL NEXT EVEN ESCALATE, CONTINUE IN THEM. AND THAT IS ANOTHER VALID REASON THEY DO NEED TO BE EXPOSED, PROSECUTED AND STOPPED. EVEN FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL.
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/why-many-businesses-fail
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/deceptive-unacceptable-unfair-business-trade-practices-unreliable-internet-access
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/class-action-suit-against-bell-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/unfair
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/bell-internet
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/bell-bce-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/is-your-isp-still-even-watching-you
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/the-war-against-bell
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/bell-throttles-internet-speeds
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/and
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/bell-lied
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/i-cannot-trust-you-for-you-lie-to-me-all-the-time
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/this-next-was-so-predictable-even-by-me-too
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/pay-back-revenge/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/federal-consumer-protection-ha-ha-ha/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/crtc-is-clearly-in-bells-bad-pocket/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/commissioner-for-complaints-for-telecommunications-services/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/deceptive-unacceptable-unfair-business-trade-practices-unreliable-internet-access
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/class-action-suit-against-bell-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/unfair
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/bell-internet
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/buyer-beware-beware
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/bell-bce-sympatico
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/is-your-isp-still-even-watching-you
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/the-war-against-bell
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/bell-throttles-internet-speeds
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/and
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/consumers-affairs
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/bell-lied
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/i-cannot-trust-you-for-you-lie-to-me-all-the-time
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/basic-contract-law
http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/this-next-was-so-predictable-even-by-me-too
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/pay-back-revenge/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/federal-consumer-protection-ha-ha-ha/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/crtc-is-clearly-in-bells-bad-pocket/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/commissioner-for-complaints-for-telecommunications-services/
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY, A MUCH DAMMED RESPONSE
I HAVE CLEARLY WRITTEN TO THE LAST FEDERAL CABINET MINISTER THAT I NO LONGER RIGHTFULLY BELIEVE ANYTHING A FEDERAL CABINET MINISTER SAYS AND WRITES, FOR TO ME REAL ACTIONS WILL SPEAK LOUDER OVER WORDS.. NOW I HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS WRITING ABOUT THE IMMORAL BELL CORPORATION AND THE USELESS CRTC AND OBVIOUSLY THOUSANDS OF READERS MUST AGREE WITH ME FOR THEY READ MY LETTERS POSTED ON THE NET..
While the pretentious Canadian Liberal and Conservatives governments, are presently engulfed in the Quebec mafia scandals too, while they clearly do not care about the average citizens, about their consumer protection, yes the ordinary citizens concerns too, but they all wrongfully it seems to care only about big businesses making more money at any costs, the reality of this is all evident by the fact this post has become the most read post of mine.. do see also http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/insuring-adequate-consumer-protection/, http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/crtc-farcical-hearings-on-internet-speed-control/ , http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/b-c-solicitor-general-named-in-lawsuit/ I would STILL rather you deal FULLY with the issues I write about and rightfully now too.
Yes it is undeniable that Canada’s supposed law and order party that has been in power for a few years, has had time to find money and jobs for thousands of their friends., that has been electing judges to suit their own tastes as well, has been falsely spending taxpayer’s money, using governmental resources to promote their own reelection and also to promote the the new Conservative party, this same party and it’s leader Prime Mister Stephen Harper, it’s justice ministers have absolutely failed to deal adequately with the much too many bad, abusive cops, RCMP we still do now have in Canada and why was that now? Application of governmental Accountability TOWARDS OTHERS is only an election gimmick?
Thank you for your email in which you expressed your concern regarding the CRTC’s recent decision and broadband competitiveness in Canada.
As you know, telecommunications companies Bell, TELUS, and MTS Allstream have each appealed several decisions of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) concerning access to broadband networks across the country. The decisions in question concern access to wholesale telecommunications service, which the former monopoly telephone companies are required to provide to competitors at regulated rates and terms.
Our government seeks to promote a fair and competitive business environment and to ensure Canadians everywhere have access to the best broadband services possible. This is why, for example, Canada’s Economic Action Plan is investing $225 million to extend and upgrade broadband service nationwide.
I can assure you that Industry Canada is engaged in a thorough analysis of the issues surrounding these CRTC decisions and we are closely following the appeals launched by Bell, TEELUS and MTS Allstream. As there is an appeal process still underway, it would be inappropriate to comment on the merits of the CRTC decisions or any party’s position.
I would like to thank you again for taking the time to express your concerns to me. I always appreciate receiving correspondence from constituents, and from all Canadians, as it enables me to truly serve the people of our great nation.
Sincerely,
The Honourable Rona Ambrose, P.C., M.P.
Bell ITSELF NOW WANTS TO MAKE MORE MONEY SELLING MOVIES DIRECTLY TO YOU ON THE NET SO IT READILY WANTS TO ACT LIKE BIG BROTHER POLICE TOO AND FORBID YOU TO DOWNLOAD ANY SUPPOSEDLY PIRATED MATERIAL.. AND WHAT ELSE WILL IT TRY TO CENSOR NOW TOO? BELL THE BIG DIABOLICAL POLICE STATE NOW TOO?
NOW FOR A START TOO LET MY GOVERNMENT OF CANADA RIGHTFULLY LOOK FIRST FULLY AFTER THE CITIZENS BEST INTEREST , CONSUMER PROTECTION AND NOT THE INTEREST OF BIG BUSINESS MAINLY TOO.
